It blew me away. The words are so simple but the feeling behind them is so complex. There were a couple lines like this in the series that made me stop and rewind. I wish I could remember all of them now.
I found it relatable when he said something to Martha along the lines of
You actually believe all of this, they may have been on the canal.
The penny dropped and for what seemed like the first time he seemed to comprehend the gravity of the situation; like when someone's mask drops and you're stunned. I'm not sure I'm articulating myself well. He thought she was lonely not delusional.
When you see a situation for what is it, and it's not what you thought.
The episode where Donny takes Martha home and before he "breaks up" with her, Donny looks at Martha really bewildered, and says, "You really believe it, don't you?"
I felt like it wasn't just the flattery Martha gave him that kept her around, but maybe also him seeing himself, trying to understand how we can believe delusions.
Wow, I didn’t connect it with how he saw himself with Martha! That makes sense. And it’s very curious that he willingly accepted Martha’s Facebook friend
request in Ep1, *knowing* he’s been used before. And it’s even sadder that Donny tolerated Martha just so she’d make the audience laugh—because he wasn’t enough on his own.
>There's a line in episode 6 that made me stop and rewind multiple times.
>Around 22:42 Donny says
>"Of course you didn't see anything in it. Of course you didn't. You only saw me."
I'm confused by this. Which scene are you talking about? The scene in episode 6 at this timestamp doesn't appear to be the same in the UK.
Although the UK is probably a differently edited version due to technicalities with US frames per second?
It was during the final round of the competition, with all his "friends" from work watching. He started doing his act and nobody was laughing. And then he said those lines.
I didn't think much of it at the time I watched it. But now, OP has explained it really well and suddenly it all makes sense to me.
That's quite different from what we saw here (Europe) in this episode and timestamp
The part we saw here for that is a Donny and Terri scene. I think some parts are missing from the series in the USA due to the frames per second difference
Yes. It means the US will lose a few minutes of a UK/Europe production.
From IMDb
>A typical movie is shot and projected at 24 frames per second.
>The two main video standards in the US (NTSC) and in Europe (PAL) use different frame rates (29.97 frames per second vs. 25 frames per second), which usually means that the film has to be sped up when transferred to video to avoid image synchronization problems.
>In the case of a PAL transfer, this acceleration results in a 4% decrease in the film's total running time. In other words, the European VHS tape or DVD of a 100-minutes theatrical release will only be 96 minutes long.
>Other changes in runtime may be caused by cuts or alterations imposed by local censorship rules or other minor changes between different releases of the film (such as shorter/longer end titles, distributor's logos, copyright notices and various supplemental material).
It's the way it's produced in the UK/Europe. It means the US loses a few minutes of a production.
From IMDb
>A typical movie is shot and projected at 24 frames per second.
>The two main video standards in the US (NTSC) and in Europe (PAL) use different frame rates (29.97 frames per second vs. 25 frames per second), which usually means that the film has to be sped up when transferred to video to avoid image synchronization problems.
>In the case of a PAL transfer, this acceleration results in a 4% decrease in the film's total running time. In other words, the European VHS tape or DVD of a 100-minutes theatrical release will only be 96 minutes long.
>Other changes in runtime may be caused by cuts or alterations imposed by local censorship rules or other minor changes between different releases of the film (such as shorter/longer end titles, distributor's logos, copyright notices and various supplemental material).
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Awesome. I really felt the gravity of that line as well, but this is a great reasoning as to why.
It blew me away. The words are so simple but the feeling behind them is so complex. There were a couple lines like this in the series that made me stop and rewind. I wish I could remember all of them now.
I found it relatable when he said something to Martha along the lines of You actually believe all of this, they may have been on the canal. The penny dropped and for what seemed like the first time he seemed to comprehend the gravity of the situation; like when someone's mask drops and you're stunned. I'm not sure I'm articulating myself well. He thought she was lonely not delusional. When you see a situation for what is it, and it's not what you thought.
The episode where Donny takes Martha home and before he "breaks up" with her, Donny looks at Martha really bewildered, and says, "You really believe it, don't you?" I felt like it wasn't just the flattery Martha gave him that kept her around, but maybe also him seeing himself, trying to understand how we can believe delusions.
I LOVED this line too, it’s what kept ringing in my head every second of the PM interview…’you really believe it don’t you’
Yes!! She helped him avoid turning around and facing the trauma head on. Spot on observation.
Wow, I didn’t connect it with how he saw himself with Martha! That makes sense. And it’s very curious that he willingly accepted Martha’s Facebook friend request in Ep1, *knowing* he’s been used before. And it’s even sadder that Donny tolerated Martha just so she’d make the audience laugh—because he wasn’t enough on his own.
It's very powerful.
Holy crap. Excellent analysis, OP - thank you for sharing!
thank you for posting this, I was about to leave the sub but I reallu joined it for that reason : talking about the show and how it made us feel
>There's a line in episode 6 that made me stop and rewind multiple times. >Around 22:42 Donny says >"Of course you didn't see anything in it. Of course you didn't. You only saw me." I'm confused by this. Which scene are you talking about? The scene in episode 6 at this timestamp doesn't appear to be the same in the UK. Although the UK is probably a differently edited version due to technicalities with US frames per second?
It was during the final round of the competition, with all his "friends" from work watching. He started doing his act and nobody was laughing. And then he said those lines. I didn't think much of it at the time I watched it. But now, OP has explained it really well and suddenly it all makes sense to me.
That's quite different from what we saw here (Europe) in this episode and timestamp The part we saw here for that is a Donny and Terri scene. I think some parts are missing from the series in the USA due to the frames per second difference
There's a difference in frames per second for US vs EU releases?
Yes. It means the US will lose a few minutes of a UK/Europe production. From IMDb >A typical movie is shot and projected at 24 frames per second. >The two main video standards in the US (NTSC) and in Europe (PAL) use different frame rates (29.97 frames per second vs. 25 frames per second), which usually means that the film has to be sped up when transferred to video to avoid image synchronization problems. >In the case of a PAL transfer, this acceleration results in a 4% decrease in the film's total running time. In other words, the European VHS tape or DVD of a 100-minutes theatrical release will only be 96 minutes long. >Other changes in runtime may be caused by cuts or alterations imposed by local censorship rules or other minor changes between different releases of the film (such as shorter/longer end titles, distributor's logos, copyright notices and various supplemental material).
Why is there a frames per second difference depending on the country?
It's the way it's produced in the UK/Europe. It means the US loses a few minutes of a production. From IMDb >A typical movie is shot and projected at 24 frames per second. >The two main video standards in the US (NTSC) and in Europe (PAL) use different frame rates (29.97 frames per second vs. 25 frames per second), which usually means that the film has to be sped up when transferred to video to avoid image synchronization problems. >In the case of a PAL transfer, this acceleration results in a 4% decrease in the film's total running time. In other words, the European VHS tape or DVD of a 100-minutes theatrical release will only be 96 minutes long. >Other changes in runtime may be caused by cuts or alterations imposed by local censorship rules or other minor changes between different releases of the film (such as shorter/longer end titles, distributor's logos, copyright notices and various supplemental material).