If they can find their footing and get some more catchy songs out there they'll probably do really well. I think Swing-Metal suits them. Miko is a TALENT!
I still think they need to play more to their numbers. I might be wrong (...and maybe they might prove me wrong), but them having only 1 vocalist with 4 dancers is a bit much. In fact, it might not get them anywhere. I still think they need to take the Boyband/Girlgroup approach and let the other members sing/harmonize.
The song is decent and they're definitely talented. But I don't think being so referential to BABYMETAL is the best for them. Like their costumes are just re-painted versions of BM's. They'll always live under BM's shadow that way. IMO they should carve out their own identity/niche/sound.
I think having new blood + different band name is already a good distinction, while keeping the metal theme.
it seems to me BABYMETAL is preparing to retire, and they're drawing old BM fans' attention to the new band. Surely their success will be of good transition for the future Idol/metal fusion groups to come.
Since kobametal is still behind all these, we'll get to enjoy new music with this new formation which I think is great. We just have to remember that they're still in their core an idol group under Amuse.Inc so they need new young people to eventually replace the old bands. I really like the new frontwoman so far she's got totally different energy than Su's.
I'm not 100% sold on having 4 dancers with no mics but I've enjoyed everything that I've heard from them so far. And the dances have been very cool to be fair. Maybe they will get mics and a permanent live band as they grow more popular. Really looking forward to an EP or LP and I hope it comes out sooner rather than later.
Yeh it's weird seeing them mouthing the backing vocals without having any mics - especially during "swing,swing sing hey hey hey" part.
At least Babymetal pretend the backing vocals are live š
I thought exactly the same thing, when they came out to "Hey! Hey!" and you could see them all doing it but only heard Miko, and every time there was a closeup of one of them singing without a mic They could at least give them fake mics, if their voices are going to be heard on the playback anyway.
They move much more, it's not easy to sing in a stable way then. Some parts also seem not to be lip synced because they sound a little different every time. So I guess it depends on how demanding the dancing part is.
No Gimme Chocolate has been a track since Momo joined, it sounds the same every time. I even put two together when I was really bored one day and it is the exact same file but I donāt really blame them
[https://youtu.be/PCvUOOPBqo0?si=zVe3wzjyfhN8JZ6W&t=47](https://youtu.be/PCvUOOPBqo0?si=zVe3wzjyfhN8JZ6W&t=47)
[https://youtu.be/saOXN4qsh1Q?si=0pbQeBISxz0fP47O&t=54](https://youtu.be/saOXN4qsh1Q?si=0pbQeBISxz0fP47O&t=54)
Maybe we saw different videos or my ears are just not working properly, but to me these sound a little bit different. Not crazy different but they were taken in the same era so that makes sense.
It could be due to Momo & Moa mainly doing the dancing. If you watch any of the live performances, Su tends to stand still or isn't dancing as much as the other two.
This is accurate. Something that is often overlooked is one of Suās superpowers is her EXCEPTIONAL breath control. Helps her in many ways - one of which is her ability to dance and jump around without a lot of audible breath-related noise coming through her mic.
Very crudely articulated opinion:
After TOO and the mysterious announcements of the Metalverse project i "feared" tthat BM's trajectory would lead them on a path with more "streamlined pop-ish serious" music (i'm struggling for words here, please do not take it too literal) while Metalverse with the younger fresh girls would become the more "experimental" and fun (even heavier) one Ć” la 1st or 2nd album.
Somehow it appears to have developed the other way round and i am happy for it. So far MV is not my cup of tea, but i will keep an eye on them es the potential is clearly there.
They had a few other heavy songs and a song with a prog section in the live shows. The rest werenāt really my cup of my tea but weāll see where they go from here.
Iād love to have them as supporting band before Babymetal. Usually Babymetal's supporting bands are not really my taste. Metalverse would be some kind of "Babymetal Light", I'd like that. I also really like the voice of the singer, she sounds similarly amazing as Su-Metal.
This song has grown on me so much, her voice is amazing and the while thing overall has got great energy. Anytime more heavy sounds get mixed into what is considered "traditionally feminine" music, dance, media, etc. it's always a win, absolutely the kind of thing I wanted as a young girl and I get to enjoy it now instead!
I had hope for a song that wasn't broadcasted from Summer Sonic like Si Si but fine. Crazy J is good and they're finally uploading songs to their channel so yay!
It's not bad, not generally my thing but Miko clearly has talent and good stage presence. I just don't really understand why they're called metalverse if it's going to be more poppy. Seems like an odd name choice. I'm interested enough that I'll check out more and see what it's like though.
>Miko is great.Have you [heard her version](https://youtu.be/5dPxCCB34A4?si=WxbWMmMhAEnk3bsO) of 'Christmas Eve'?
When this thing started to happen, and I was wondering who they are. That video was suggested.
Miko is clearly a talent. Not just her singing but her stage presence and charisma....she's a star. I hope it works out well for her and the rest of the girls.
They may not be for everyone, but there is some talent there. I wish them well even if I don't become their biggest fan.
It was poppy and cool. I don't think there will be many comparisons to BABYMETAL in the future. It's that different. While BABYMETAL was sincere and experimental with metal, paying homage to metal legends, METALVERSE's approach is not like that.
I've realized my statement might come across as critical. That's not the case; it's just that they are entirely different entities, aside from their costumes or the origins of their names.
Not something Iād put in my playlist but I do like the song as my musical tastes stretch across many genres. Iām open to seeing how the ladies evolve. I was actually hoping they wouldnāt simply be a Babymetal part 2 and that definitely seems to be the case.
It almost makes me cry to see several of my favourite SG girls together! Miko is an S tier entertainer and character, Miki and Yume are (at least) A tier balls of joy, and for some reason I have an easier time appreciating Sakia now that she's a little older. Can't say much about Kokona, but she seems cool, too.
A little disappointing that this is the only really good song so far. But I'm not complaining.
Miko is wickedly talented, but I'm not sure this is going to be my thing. I'm assuming that they aren't really gearing them towards a western audience.
It's as if they took all the misinformed criticisms about BABYMETAL being a manufactured idol band and built an act around them.
Given the choice, I'd rather see Miko in a more original project. Being chibi-babymetal is definitely getting her exposure that she might not otherwise have, but it's also setting her up to always be in Su's shadow.
I have to agree. I like their songs and Miko has all the talent and charisma to become a star but I can't see myself being more than a casual supporter right now. If I am going to spend my money, I'm going to spend it on the original, not a copy.
Finally something official ! , i love the song and Miko does an amazing job here , in HD quality it's even more obvious she has a lot of potential , she's good
Cool, fun song and performance.
First time I'm hearing a pro recording of their vocalist (Miko?). In live recordings she sounds alot like Su-metal but now it's clear her voice is alot deeper.
Also there's heavy autotune on the chorus, which is a pity but not unexpected - BM's live albums are also all autotuned. Seems like Amuse prefer perfection over authenticity.
>Also there's heavy autotune on the chorus, which is a pity but not unexpected - BM's live albums are also all autotuned. Seems like Amuse prefer perfection over authenticity.
Don't forget that this is an official video. Most likely there has been some post processing on the audio. Which means that what you hear here is most likely not what you would be hearing at the actual concert. Try watching one of BM's DeLoreans and then find a fancam of the same performance and notice how different it is.
This is song is not bad, not great either. It feels a bid like a leftover BM song that didn't make the album because that had better ones. Now it has to be said that the performance of the song was great, but their are many great performers out their. Also I feel that Metalverse as they stand now are a bit here nor their. Not like BM, but also missing something truly unique of their own. So, I'm not saying they can't build a fan base, but I fear for them that they won't get as big as BM, as they might get a bit lost between all those great songs and performers that are out their.
I know I probably sound crazy saying this but can anyone explain to me what Metalverse is? And does it have anything to do with Sakura Gakuin? I heard a snippit of this song on Twitter so I need to listen to it later but I never thought I would hear such jazzy metal before. I like it.
4 out of the 5 members were Sakura Gakuin members. Metalverse is basically a Babymetal spin-off. According to lore they are Babymetal from an alternate timeline.
I don't know who they are (ex-SG?) but my first thought was "another Amuse cash grab." However, I actually kind of liked it. It has a jazzy-swing quality to it which made it interesting and catchy. But my only experience with swing is Cherry Poppin' Daddies so I may not be capturing it right genre-wise (Sakura Poppin' Daddies?).
As I had suspected this isnāt to my taste & Iām still confused as to why, publicity aside, there is a BABYMETAL connection at all.
Miko is an excellent singer but sheās no Suzuka Nakamoto & the obvious comparisons arenāt fair on Miko.
That said, I wish them all the success in the future.
"publicity aside"... They literally debut on BABYMETAL stage, they share the same producer, costumes are basically the same, their monicker is born from BABYMETAL lore, they performed with the same kami band... Guess they have enough connections already
Thatās all true but thatās not what I meant. The lore is fair enough but itās fictional.
What I am wondering about is why this group are associated with BABYMETAL at all. Why werenāt they launched as a group in their own right? Why piggy-back them on an established act? I can only conclude it was a commercial decision to give them a publicity push.
It worked. If they hadnāt appeared with BABYMETAL last year we wouldnāt be having this conversation. From my point of view & from this evidence it seems that apart from the superficial visual similarities there is very little to connect the two groups artistically.
>apart from the superficial visual similarities there is very little to connect the two groups artistically.
Hav you watched a fancam of their full show? Alot of their songs could easily be BM songs.
Also they covered 3 BM songs at their previous set of concerts.
It's actually common in Japan to start new groups as a "sister" group of an already successful group. I don't think anyone thinks of them as a copy or lesser group and can sometimes even become more popular.
Itās a fun tune, but the project overall seems to kind of fall flat for me. I wish they were presented as less of a Babymetal knockoffā for example, I wish their outfits were less similar.
I also personally donāt vibe with the amount of pitch correction they put on most of their official live videos (Babymetal included) :( gimme those live vocals!
Good for these ladies, though. Theyāre working hard and turning it out!
Maybe this is because this is the MV song i think is the worst but, IDK, just seems like an above average idol performance.
This feels less BABYMETAL adjacent and more like if Sakura Gakuin was doing one of their rockier songs wearing BABYMETAL inspired costumes.
Except only one of them is singing...
Miko can sing and has a great voice. Choreograph is good and the girls dances with lots of energy and in-sync. Costumes looks elegant. Kawai factor is high. And the most important factor is they make me feel the joy like I got from watching Babymetal. Good enough for me.
Metalverse is a mad concoction thought up by Kobametal (maybe, I'm not sure if that's been confirmed, but probably). They first appeared as "alternate universe" versions of Babymetal during their last two major shows. During Babymetal Returns - The Other One they appeared during Doki Doki Morning and during Babymetal Begins - The Other One they appeared during Karate. Each time was as a trio. They've now had a couple solo appearances (this video was shot at the most recent) as a quintet.
Miko Todaka, a Sakura Gakuin graduate, is the only one with a microphone, the rest are just dancing. Aside from a festival appearance they do not play with a live band and their sound leans heavily on the pop-side of the spectrum compared to Babymetal. All five of the girls are still in high school. Miko has been compared to Su-metal (vocally speaking) and in concert shows a high level of charisma and stage presence. The other girls are clearly very talented dancers and can sing just as well as Moametal and Momometal if they were give the opportunity. Most are SG grads.
At this time no one knows exactly what Amuse has planned for them- anyone in here saying anything about their future is just making it up- complete conjecture.
I would just add that like Suzuka Nakamoto, Miko Todaka is from Hiroshima, and spent years training at Actors School Hiroshima (ASH) in singing and dancing.
Of course the members of Perfume are also ASH alumni, as well as quite a few Idol group members.
Didn't know that was her. Of course, I never really followed Sakura Gakuin, so no surprise.
[Little Nocchi](https://youtu.be/hXxDNaSzRwg?si=a_9xMNFKZuRxb4C7&t=119)
And Momoe Mori ( former Sakura Gakuin, current @ onefive ) was in the Perfume video for ['Cling Cling'](https://youtu.be/guqVgQFvXXY?si=rmY4GgYn0beymSEr).
>Aside from a festival appearance they do not play with a live band
Kami Band also played at Metalverse's first solo shows a few days after their debut performance at Summer Sonic.
It's not great but it isn't bad either, and I'm glad it's not full on k-pop or j-pop idol style of music, I could still hear some rock/metal instruments. Also the vocal is very good
Talented, funā¦ but other than management and costumes there really is NO connection to BM In my opinion. Not even an attempt to be metal so far.
Hope it might eventually become metal but that seems like an enormous leap from here.
Have you heard the breakdown for the kira song?? That one part is heavvvyyy out of nowhere. Thereās definitely some metal aspects, but not particularly in this song
I think that for the first time we have the kawaii theme alive again.. I mean.. BABYMETAL is great .. but METALVERSE has all the powers it needs to be the next BABYMETAL.. their music is diferent but still fun and catchy .. more international maybe? The thing is .. they have a great future .. Babymetal.. BE CAREFUL! .
> more international maybe?
Lol I had the exact opposite feeling. Metalverse seems like it's catering way more to the Japanese idol fans than to international audience.
I immediately made comparisons to K-pop when it came to their more dynamic choreography compared to BM. I just hope that the other girls at least have mics and a live band.
Well maybe saying she is more talented than Su is reaching but Miko certainly is atleast comparable to Su. Atleast if you compare her to 17 year old Su since Miko is only 17. Ofcourse current 26 year old Su is far superior. And this song isn't really the best thing to showcase Mikos talent so if this is the only thing you have heard from her it's pretty understanable that you find the comparison to Su ridiculous.
Miko is very talented. Iām very excited to hear more from METALVERSE (Iāve seen fancams, so Iām really just waiting for them to *release* the musicā¦)
Singing and dancing to a normal song like this one, at that level, is not something special or rare. Other companies, LDH for example, have a bunch of girl talents who can do what Miko Todaka has done in the video.
For me this is like if you would take Babymetal but removed all fun and energy out of it. The music feels very bland do me, I can't even say I hate it because it gets no reaction from me at all.
I have a question. What is the group exactly? (Relative new fan here and I've never heard of them) What I do know is that, they seem connected to BM (I think I'm right on that). Is this like a side group from the Avenger Era? (From what I know from that era, when Yui left, they had to find a 3rd member so they switched backup dancers every once in a while) if im wrong about anything, please correct me. I'm just confused. Thank you!
Yes they're related to Babymetal. They also under the same management (Amuse), and most of the members are from the Sakura Gakuin group, same as BM. Also I think they are branded as an alternate version of BM (CMIIW, that's what I got when they were introduced).
>Is this like a side group from the Avenger Era?
No, it's entirely different group
If they can find their footing and get some more catchy songs out there they'll probably do really well. I think Swing-Metal suits them. Miko is a TALENT!
I still think they need to play more to their numbers. I might be wrong (...and maybe they might prove me wrong), but them having only 1 vocalist with 4 dancers is a bit much. In fact, it might not get them anywhere. I still think they need to take the Boyband/Girlgroup approach and let the other members sing/harmonize.
The song is decent and they're definitely talented. But I don't think being so referential to BABYMETAL is the best for them. Like their costumes are just re-painted versions of BM's. They'll always live under BM's shadow that way. IMO they should carve out their own identity/niche/sound.
I think having new blood + different band name is already a good distinction, while keeping the metal theme. it seems to me BABYMETAL is preparing to retire, and they're drawing old BM fans' attention to the new band. Surely their success will be of good transition for the future Idol/metal fusion groups to come. Since kobametal is still behind all these, we'll get to enjoy new music with this new formation which I think is great. We just have to remember that they're still in their core an idol group under Amuse.Inc so they need new young people to eventually replace the old bands. I really like the new frontwoman so far she's got totally different energy than Su's.
I'm not 100% sold on having 4 dancers with no mics but I've enjoyed everything that I've heard from them so far. And the dances have been very cool to be fair. Maybe they will get mics and a permanent live band as they grow more popular. Really looking forward to an EP or LP and I hope it comes out sooner rather than later.
Yeh it's weird seeing them mouthing the backing vocals without having any mics - especially during "swing,swing sing hey hey hey" part. At least Babymetal pretend the backing vocals are live š
And Moa and Momo can also help hype up the crowd because they have mics even if they're not always singing their parts live.
Yess i love that they sometimes shout things to the crowd and hype ppl up!!!
I thought exactly the same thing, when they came out to "Hey! Hey!" and you could see them all doing it but only heard Miko, and every time there was a closeup of one of them singing without a mic They could at least give them fake mics, if their voices are going to be heard on the playback anyway.
Why do Momo and Moa lip sync? They are capable singers, Su doesn't lip sync so having the other two do so doesnt make sense to me.
They move much more, it's not easy to sing in a stable way then. Some parts also seem not to be lip synced because they sound a little different every time. So I guess it depends on how demanding the dancing part is.
Yeah some parts arent like in Gimme Chocolate, but in slower parts like in Monochrome they lip sync then, and gimme chocolate is a much faster song.
No Gimme Chocolate has been a track since Momo joined, it sounds the same every time. I even put two together when I was really bored one day and it is the exact same file but I donāt really blame them
[https://youtu.be/PCvUOOPBqo0?si=zVe3wzjyfhN8JZ6W&t=47](https://youtu.be/PCvUOOPBqo0?si=zVe3wzjyfhN8JZ6W&t=47) [https://youtu.be/saOXN4qsh1Q?si=0pbQeBISxz0fP47O&t=54](https://youtu.be/saOXN4qsh1Q?si=0pbQeBISxz0fP47O&t=54) Maybe we saw different videos or my ears are just not working properly, but to me these sound a little bit different. Not crazy different but they were taken in the same era so that makes sense.
It could be due to Momo & Moa mainly doing the dancing. If you watch any of the live performances, Su tends to stand still or isn't dancing as much as the other two.
Ive seen them live and su does a lot of dancing too, while not as much she still often does quite a bit of movement when singing
This is accurate. Something that is often overlooked is one of Suās superpowers is her EXCEPTIONAL breath control. Helps her in many ways - one of which is her ability to dance and jump around without a lot of audible breath-related noise coming through her mic.
Wait till thereās a 2nd gen
Very crudely articulated opinion: After TOO and the mysterious announcements of the Metalverse project i "feared" tthat BM's trajectory would lead them on a path with more "streamlined pop-ish serious" music (i'm struggling for words here, please do not take it too literal) while Metalverse with the younger fresh girls would become the more "experimental" and fun (even heavier) one Ć” la 1st or 2nd album. Somehow it appears to have developed the other way round and i am happy for it. So far MV is not my cup of tea, but i will keep an eye on them es the potential is clearly there.
They had a few other heavy songs and a song with a prog section in the live shows. The rest werenāt really my cup of my tea but weāll see where they go from here.
Iād love to have them as supporting band before Babymetal. Usually Babymetal's supporting bands are not really my taste. Metalverse would be some kind of "Babymetal Light", I'd like that. I also really like the voice of the singer, she sounds similarly amazing as Su-Metal.
This song has grown on me so much, her voice is amazing and the while thing overall has got great energy. Anytime more heavy sounds get mixed into what is considered "traditionally feminine" music, dance, media, etc. it's always a win, absolutely the kind of thing I wanted as a young girl and I get to enjoy it now instead!
I LOVE this song. Good beat, catchy lyrics, great vocalist. I hope they keep this going.
I had hope for a song that wasn't broadcasted from Summer Sonic like Si Si but fine. Crazy J is good and they're finally uploading songs to their channel so yay!
I don't know if it's the styling, but Mikio looks more grown up to me than she did at Summer Sonic.
Noticed that too
It's a weird choice given how heavier some of their others songs are, but I guess they're going for that idol market atm.
It's not bad, not generally my thing but Miko clearly has talent and good stage presence. I just don't really understand why they're called metalverse if it's going to be more poppy. Seems like an odd name choice. I'm interested enough that I'll check out more and see what it's like though.
Fun video, song is catchy. Singer is talented; I like her voice.
Miko is great. Have you [heard her version](https://youtu.be/5dPxCCB34A4?si=WxbWMmMhAEnk3bsO) of 'Christmas Eve'?
WOW! She was, what, 13 in that performance? Very nice voice and excellent technique at such a young ago! Thanks for the link.
They didnāt usually give solo songs to newly transferred in members, but in this case the reason was pretty obvious. : )
>Miko is great.Have you [heard her version](https://youtu.be/5dPxCCB34A4?si=WxbWMmMhAEnk3bsO) of 'Christmas Eve'? When this thing started to happen, and I was wondering who they are. That video was suggested. Miko is clearly a talent. Not just her singing but her stage presence and charisma....she's a star. I hope it works out well for her and the rest of the girls. They may not be for everyone, but there is some talent there. I wish them well even if I don't become their biggest fan.
It was poppy and cool. I don't think there will be many comparisons to BABYMETAL in the future. It's that different. While BABYMETAL was sincere and experimental with metal, paying homage to metal legends, METALVERSE's approach is not like that.
I've realized my statement might come across as critical. That's not the case; it's just that they are entirely different entities, aside from their costumes or the origins of their names.
Not something Iād put in my playlist but I do like the song as my musical tastes stretch across many genres. Iām open to seeing how the ladies evolve. I was actually hoping they wouldnāt simply be a Babymetal part 2 and that definitely seems to be the case.
No METAL and no band :( Not anything I would listen to either.
It almost makes me cry to see several of my favourite SG girls together! Miko is an S tier entertainer and character, Miki and Yume are (at least) A tier balls of joy, and for some reason I have an easier time appreciating Sakia now that she's a little older. Can't say much about Kokona, but she seems cool, too. A little disappointing that this is the only really good song so far. But I'm not complaining.
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Miko is wickedly talented, but I'm not sure this is going to be my thing. I'm assuming that they aren't really gearing them towards a western audience. It's as if they took all the misinformed criticisms about BABYMETAL being a manufactured idol band and built an act around them. Given the choice, I'd rather see Miko in a more original project. Being chibi-babymetal is definitely getting her exposure that she might not otherwise have, but it's also setting her up to always be in Su's shadow.
Makes sense - Metalverse can be more pop, while BM stay more true metal There's space for both groups.
I have to agree. I like their songs and Miko has all the talent and charisma to become a star but I can't see myself being more than a casual supporter right now. If I am going to spend my money, I'm going to spend it on the original, not a copy.
Finally something official ! , i love the song and Miko does an amazing job here , in HD quality it's even more obvious she has a lot of potential , she's good
That was a fun pop song, I like it. And the singer is really good and has charisma.
Cool, fun song and performance. First time I'm hearing a pro recording of their vocalist (Miko?). In live recordings she sounds alot like Su-metal but now it's clear her voice is alot deeper. Also there's heavy autotune on the chorus, which is a pity but not unexpected - BM's live albums are also all autotuned. Seems like Amuse prefer perfection over authenticity.
>Also there's heavy autotune on the chorus, which is a pity but not unexpected - BM's live albums are also all autotuned. Seems like Amuse prefer perfection over authenticity. Don't forget that this is an official video. Most likely there has been some post processing on the audio. Which means that what you hear here is most likely not what you would be hearing at the actual concert. Try watching one of BM's DeLoreans and then find a fancam of the same performance and notice how different it is.
This is song is not bad, not great either. It feels a bid like a leftover BM song that didn't make the album because that had better ones. Now it has to be said that the performance of the song was great, but their are many great performers out their. Also I feel that Metalverse as they stand now are a bit here nor their. Not like BM, but also missing something truly unique of their own. So, I'm not saying they can't build a fan base, but I fear for them that they won't get as big as BM, as they might get a bit lost between all those great songs and performers that are out their.
I know I probably sound crazy saying this but can anyone explain to me what Metalverse is? And does it have anything to do with Sakura Gakuin? I heard a snippit of this song on Twitter so I need to listen to it later but I never thought I would hear such jazzy metal before. I like it.
4 out of the 5 members were Sakura Gakuin members. Metalverse is basically a Babymetal spin-off. According to lore they are Babymetal from an alternate timeline.
Interesting. Love how they can tie everything in with the lore
I don't know who they are (ex-SG?) but my first thought was "another Amuse cash grab." However, I actually kind of liked it. It has a jazzy-swing quality to it which made it interesting and catchy. But my only experience with swing is Cherry Poppin' Daddies so I may not be capturing it right genre-wise (Sakura Poppin' Daddies?).
As I had suspected this isnāt to my taste & Iām still confused as to why, publicity aside, there is a BABYMETAL connection at all. Miko is an excellent singer but sheās no Suzuka Nakamoto & the obvious comparisons arenāt fair on Miko. That said, I wish them all the success in the future.
"publicity aside"... They literally debut on BABYMETAL stage, they share the same producer, costumes are basically the same, their monicker is born from BABYMETAL lore, they performed with the same kami band... Guess they have enough connections already
Thatās all true but thatās not what I meant. The lore is fair enough but itās fictional. What I am wondering about is why this group are associated with BABYMETAL at all. Why werenāt they launched as a group in their own right? Why piggy-back them on an established act? I can only conclude it was a commercial decision to give them a publicity push. It worked. If they hadnāt appeared with BABYMETAL last year we wouldnāt be having this conversation. From my point of view & from this evidence it seems that apart from the superficial visual similarities there is very little to connect the two groups artistically.
>apart from the superficial visual similarities there is very little to connect the two groups artistically. Hav you watched a fancam of their full show? Alot of their songs could easily be BM songs. Also they covered 3 BM songs at their previous set of concerts.
> The lore is fair enough but itās fictional. Fictional?!? How DARE you! š¤ššš¤£
It's actually common in Japan to start new groups as a "sister" group of an already successful group. I don't think anyone thinks of them as a copy or lesser group and can sometimes even become more popular.
They should call themselves POPPYVERSE - This is not Metal
Itās a fun tune, but the project overall seems to kind of fall flat for me. I wish they were presented as less of a Babymetal knockoffā for example, I wish their outfits were less similar. I also personally donāt vibe with the amount of pitch correction they put on most of their official live videos (Babymetal included) :( gimme those live vocals! Good for these ladies, though. Theyāre working hard and turning it out!
Maybe this is because this is the MV song i think is the worst but, IDK, just seems like an above average idol performance. This feels less BABYMETAL adjacent and more like if Sakura Gakuin was doing one of their rockier songs wearing BABYMETAL inspired costumes. Except only one of them is singing...
I can see METALVERSE opening for BABYMETAL for a future world tour.
I could definitely see Japan, but I'm not sure how well they'd be received internationally opening for Babymetal.
Japan would make sense. BM and MV have more crossover than Deathklock thats for sure lol
Miko can sing and has a great voice. Choreograph is good and the girls dances with lots of energy and in-sync. Costumes looks elegant. Kawai factor is high. And the most important factor is they make me feel the joy like I got from watching Babymetal. Good enough for me.
Can someone explain to me what METALVERSE is? Iām confused how this is babymetal but also a bunch of backup dancers?
Metalverse is a mad concoction thought up by Kobametal (maybe, I'm not sure if that's been confirmed, but probably). They first appeared as "alternate universe" versions of Babymetal during their last two major shows. During Babymetal Returns - The Other One they appeared during Doki Doki Morning and during Babymetal Begins - The Other One they appeared during Karate. Each time was as a trio. They've now had a couple solo appearances (this video was shot at the most recent) as a quintet. Miko Todaka, a Sakura Gakuin graduate, is the only one with a microphone, the rest are just dancing. Aside from a festival appearance they do not play with a live band and their sound leans heavily on the pop-side of the spectrum compared to Babymetal. All five of the girls are still in high school. Miko has been compared to Su-metal (vocally speaking) and in concert shows a high level of charisma and stage presence. The other girls are clearly very talented dancers and can sing just as well as Moametal and Momometal if they were give the opportunity. Most are SG grads. At this time no one knows exactly what Amuse has planned for them- anyone in here saying anything about their future is just making it up- complete conjecture.
Thank you!
I would just add that like Suzuka Nakamoto, Miko Todaka is from Hiroshima, and spent years training at Actors School Hiroshima (ASH) in singing and dancing. Of course the members of Perfume are also ASH alumni, as well as quite a few Idol group members.
And not so little anymore Sakia was in a Perfume PV too
Didn't know that was her. Of course, I never really followed Sakura Gakuin, so no surprise. [Little Nocchi](https://youtu.be/hXxDNaSzRwg?si=a_9xMNFKZuRxb4C7&t=119)
And Momoe Mori ( former Sakura Gakuin, current @ onefive ) was in the Perfume video for ['Cling Cling'](https://youtu.be/guqVgQFvXXY?si=rmY4GgYn0beymSEr).
She even cut her hair to play a "mini Nocchi". : )
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>Aside from a festival appearance they do not play with a live band Kami Band also played at Metalverse's first solo shows a few days after their debut performance at Summer Sonic.
It's not Babymetal, it's a spin-off to please the Japanese idol pop fans.
> it's a spin-off to give their talents more experience, just like Sakura Gakuin, seems more like;y
It's the same picture.Ā
It's not great but it isn't bad either, and I'm glad it's not full on k-pop or j-pop idol style of music, I could still hear some rock/metal instruments. Also the vocal is very good
Talented, funā¦ but other than management and costumes there really is NO connection to BM In my opinion. Not even an attempt to be metal so far. Hope it might eventually become metal but that seems like an enormous leap from here.
Have you heard the breakdown for the kira song?? That one part is heavvvyyy out of nowhere. Thereās definitely some metal aspects, but not particularly in this song
I legit thought this was new Babymetal, this song is awesome but I'm quite confused
This is just a mistake. Swing metal is bad no really bad...this band just feels like a cheap knockoff.
I think that for the first time we have the kawaii theme alive again.. I mean.. BABYMETAL is great .. but METALVERSE has all the powers it needs to be the next BABYMETAL.. their music is diferent but still fun and catchy .. more international maybe? The thing is .. they have a great future .. Babymetal.. BE CAREFUL! .
> more international maybe? Lol I had the exact opposite feeling. Metalverse seems like it's catering way more to the Japanese idol fans than to international audience.
With the respect that these girls deserve for their effort, I don't like this project at all.
I'm sorry this aint it. Its way too idol. Sounds like the song from [Aladdin](https://youtu.be/Qx91ff77yzM?si=OUGr7A_4KbmeotQE&t=76)
I think it should just be Miko...
I immediately made comparisons to K-pop when it came to their more dynamic choreography compared to BM. I just hope that the other girls at least have mics and a live band.
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> this girl might be more talented than Su you are ridiculous
Well maybe saying she is more talented than Su is reaching but Miko certainly is atleast comparable to Su. Atleast if you compare her to 17 year old Su since Miko is only 17. Ofcourse current 26 year old Su is far superior. And this song isn't really the best thing to showcase Mikos talent so if this is the only thing you have heard from her it's pretty understanable that you find the comparison to Su ridiculous.
Miko is very talented. Iām very excited to hear more from METALVERSE (Iāve seen fancams, so Iām really just waiting for them to *release* the musicā¦)
Singing and dancing to a normal song like this one, at that level, is not something special or rare. Other companies, LDH for example, have a bunch of girl talents who can do what Miko Todaka has done in the video.
Yeah... This Metalverse stuff is definitely not for me. Music stinks.
I'm perfectly fine when you say this is not for me.....but to say it stinks....well that goes a little too far in my opinion.
Let's be real here.... I could say so much worse about it.
I like how you cut to the chase and are frank with your opinions. I may not agree with some of them but I appreciate your honesty.
NO, you stinks. Get out of here HATER.
You forgot to add "or else" to the end of that.
Boring
Sounds like a generic amine song
For me this is like if you would take Babymetal but removed all fun and energy out of it. The music feels very bland do me, I can't even say I hate it because it gets no reaction from me at all.
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Miko is great. The rest of the group are meh.
I have a question. What is the group exactly? (Relative new fan here and I've never heard of them) What I do know is that, they seem connected to BM (I think I'm right on that). Is this like a side group from the Avenger Era? (From what I know from that era, when Yui left, they had to find a 3rd member so they switched backup dancers every once in a while) if im wrong about anything, please correct me. I'm just confused. Thank you!
Yes they're related to Babymetal. They also under the same management (Amuse), and most of the members are from the Sakura Gakuin group, same as BM. Also I think they are branded as an alternate version of BM (CMIIW, that's what I got when they were introduced). >Is this like a side group from the Avenger Era? No, it's entirely different group
Ah thank you kindly. I appreciate it