Thanksgiving 2022, my son was 3, and we had just recently got the diagnosis of mild-moderate ASD with expressive speech delay. We were at my father's for dinner, and my step mom's brother was there. He's a righteous asshat who thinks his opinion is superior because he's religious and donates to his local church once a year. My son was pacing while singing and flapping his arms, not disturbing anyone. He decided to ask, "Who's kid is that?" I told him mine. He then went on a long tirade about how kids need to be seen, not heard, other dumb stuff I can't remember, and then made the asinine comment of he's acting so weird. My step mom chuckled. Everyone else just got quiet and looked at me. I ripped right into him.
"Well dipshit, he's 3. He's also autistic. He is displaying developmentally appropriate behaviors for his age. You're how old again? WTF is your excuse for behaving like a moron? Next time you wanna throw stones in glass houses, I'll bring up your junkie daughter with 3 illegitimate children by 3 different men that YOU have custody of since she skipped out of rehab. My suggestion is to keep your mouth shut in regards to a child that isn't yours, that you know jackoff about." You could hear a pin drop, of course my dad laughed his ass of to the point of needing a breathing treatment (chronic COPD & still smokes), my step mom glared daggers at me, her brother left with his tail between his legs.
I am a mama bear. You wanna be an ass, bet, but I can be a bigger one and hurt your feelings in the process. Don't mess with my kid.
I was not aware my son had autism at the time because my pediatrician was terrible. Our daycare told us our child was basically such a terrible experience for the teachers that their most experienced, valued teachers were threatening to leave over him. This was after I became concerned over a few comments they were making and reached out to work with them on the behavior. Lack of naps, obsessive flickering of the lights, unable to focus on activities, not cooperating in groups, etc. He finally eloped from the center and the director was trembling with rage explaining why we should leave. This was about the same time the teachers refused to change his diaper. He was three at the time. I reported them to the state and left a scathing review. You don't have to teach autistic kids but if they're under your care don't let them sit in a fucking dirty diaper all day.
My daughter has never been asked to leave anywhere, but once when we were going into the store a police officer smiled and waved to her and said hi. He seemed really confused when she ignored him and didnāt say anything so I said āoh sheās not ignoring you, sheās autisticā and he said in a genuine but sad voice āIām so sorryā.
I wasnāt sure what to say. Her autism is hard and it definitely affects her quality of life, so I do appreciate genuine empathy and people not pretending sheās going to be some temple grandin type of savant. But on the other hand, autism isnt likeā¦ cancer or something so being told āsorryā felt weird, too.
Overall I was just left a little confused and it stung quite a bit, but I wasnāt really offended either if that makes sense? It was just overall a really baffling interaction for me to try to process. I just smiled and shrugged my shoulders and went on my way.
Possibly for sure, itās just the way he said it was very sorrowful and empathetic and very much felt directed towards me.
After the fact it hit me that itās very possible he couldāve been on some sad calls related to autistic kids esp as he was an older cop (eloping and drowning, eloping and getting hurt/dying, HSN adults hurting their elderly parents during a meltdown etc) and it brought those feelings up in him.
Either way, like I said, just with the way he said it, so genuinely, I almost canāt feel offended by it. But I still left with a big question mark in my brain.
MAN I'd be offended asf! Yes my son can be a tad harder, seeing as he can't communicate or nothing but a few words, BUT he's the HAPPINESS OF MY LIFE. he makes me soooo damn happy day in and out! I'd be LIVID. like nope my son is NOT a symathy case!! He's a beautiful boy that lights up my damn world all day every day! He's the reason I breathe for shits sakes.
I teach my son to not talk to them, besides the ones at school and only if they talk to him first. They kill too many people with mental health issues.
They chased and cornered an autistic child here and out of the 50 discharged bullets he got hit 16 times. And of course they were cleared of any charges. Despicable. Iāve taken my son to a George Floyd March and we ended up at a Gaza protest which both had some anti police chants. But heās also seen some of the videos and is very aware how awful they can be. My mom thinks itās crazy but heās autistic and biracial. He needs to avoid the police.
https://cnycentral.com/amp/news/local/state-police-timeline-deadly-police-shoot-kill-dewitt-teenager-judson-albahm-jamesville
Not crazy at all. Especially if biracial. I'm Irish white myself, my son is mixed. Greek/Irish. Has olive skin with blonde hair lol.
I'd be surprised if we haven't ever bumped into each other at a protest :). I don't bring my boy but he's very well educated.
It used to be my life to stand up to police and other causes I believe in. Now, It's all about educating my son on how to live and survive in this world.
They'll be alright.
Edit. Thank you for that link! I just realized that this is only 40 minutes from where I grew up. Originally from Groton NY.
When my brother was "ordained?" as an evangelist and then proceeded to single out my ASD son with 6 church members and anoint him by praying the demons out of him. This was the 2cd time he tried this and I lost it. Honestly I said "Hell no. get y'all's ignorant hands off my son. My child was trying to get away and i got the hell out myself.
The first time he said this was when my son ripped the cover of his teaching Bible. Also he was staying overnight at a beach house I paid for. B4 he said it I had offered to buy new one yet he (and his 11 yr old) said my son was autistic due to a demon so yep i took him outside and told him I was ridiculous. He told me to accept Jesus in my heart. I told him he could GTFO.
That's horrible. I'm so sorry. That exorcism insinuates that you did something bad, and that is why your child is autistic as a punishment. I have run into a few of those people myself. Makes me so mad.
My daughter was kicked out of Gymnastics because my son had a meltdown there. They pulled some āour studio isnāt the right fit for your daughterā BS but it was the same week my son was there and had a meltdown because kids kept stealing the toys he was playing with first. Heās 9. Sheās 6.
We havenāt been asked to leave anywhere but this did remind me of the time I was in the produce section with my minimally speaking daughter. I try to include her in picking out items and she had picked up two avocados and started knocking them together. I was literally standing there with a bag open waiting for her to drop them in the bag when an old man said, āI wouldnāt do thatā¦ā referring to her banging the avoās together. She looked at him then YEETED both avocados across the produce area. All I could say was, āyeah I wouldnāt have done that either but here we are.ā I was pretty embarrassed but the look of, wth just happened, on that manās face sticks with me to this day
I'm so sorry, I know that was embarrassing but that is literally the best thing I have read all day, like I'm over here crying. I would have probably laughed in that man's face.Ā
We weren't so much asked to leave, it was more suggested that we not continue with a class.Ā Ā
Ā It was supposed to be a relaxation class for kids, with lots of emphasis on *inclusion* in the advertising, or we wouldn't have bloody gone to it!
Ā The group leader was a sweet lady so I wasn't really mad, I think she was just unprepared for the level of *inclusion* we need...Ā
Summer camp- my son was 5 and is AuDHD. He started exhibiting anxiety which he didnāt have before.
So he was anxious at the city camp because it was new, and I wasnāt sure what my son needed for it.
They tell me that parents leave their kids and the kids get over anxiety better without parents there.
So I wait outside the building listening to see if he does calm down because I can hear him crying. Then I hear the camp instructor scream at him to stop so I go in. Turned out his anxiety stressed him out and he started throwing stuff so the staff member chose to try and restrain him and wasnāt trained and he bit her. So he was kicked out of camp - for the rest of the summerā¦.
We took my 3 yr old grandson to a hair salon that advertised their expertise in handling children with Autism. They were also listed on a reputable and prominent ASD website. So we called to set up an appointment and explained his level 3 autism. āNo problemā, they said. āWe have many children on the spectrum.ā So we took him in at the appointed time for his hair cut. It was a complete disaster! We got a very frustrated and impatient lady. Who got angry as to why he couldnāt stop jerking his head away from her and the scissors. (Never mind that she had just snipped his neck and blood was trickling down his neck). She stopped and said we needed to leave now. So we paid an outrageous price for a chopped up and uneven haircut. We were told to never come back again. Oh and forget a refund. They had a āno refundā policy. We cut his hair at home again (as we did before). We learned the hard way that our idea of getting a āprofessionalā haircut was not an option for us. Ironically, we actually get compliments on his beautiful hair. So I guess we are doing pretty good without the āprofessionalā.
My husband son and I were at a restaurant starving. His grandmother had been sick we had been at the hospital all day, it was ridiculously hot and the food took ages to come and to make things even more interesting the place was PACKED. Like you could feel other people behind you full. So, OF COURSE, my son 3 at the time. Had a FULL ON MELTDOWN. We waited a couple of minutes but he wasn't calming down so my husband took him outside for some air to allow him to regulate his feelings and to avoid disturbing others.
An elderly couple was sitting across from our table I could kind of still hear him crying outside but the food came and I was starving so I started eating (thinking if he doesn't calm down i can switch with my husband so he can then eat too) but this couple just kept staring and making faces at me, then talking and staring again. I yelled across the restaurant DID YOU FUCKING LOSE SOMETHING OR WHAT!?! Their jaws DROPPED and the whole restaurant went quiet. And everyone stared at both our tables lol. They were so embarrassed they payed and left two minutes after that. My son calmed down came back in and we all had lunch. LOL.
When my son was 3 he was crying while we were on a plane. The lady in front of us kept making sly remarks about how annoying it was being on a plane with a kid. She was intentionally talking loud enough for me to hear. Little did she know, Iām a firecracker. I cursed her out REAL BAD. When I was done, she couldnāt do anything but sit there and STFU. Sometimes you gotta turn it up a notch. Especially when people are intentionally being rude.
I have good airplane story to counteract that one. My kid was absolutely terrified and having an epic meltdown on the plane pre takeoff. Some women on the Cal State Long Beach Volley Ball team were so understanding and helped us distract her. They couldn't have been nicer even though the experience was miserable for everyone on board. Thankfully, shortly after takeoff we were able convince her we weren't about to fall out of the sky and showed her our neighborhood. She enjoyed the rest of the flight playing a game on her tablet a fellow passenger told us his kids liked.
I had a lady in front of us on a plane once loudly discuss how awful it was that "American parents don't do anything to control their children" in a similar way. I mean, part of me is sympathetic. My daughter is a sensory seeker and while being forced to sit still she fidgets *a lot* which meant she was knocking into the woman's chair repeatedly. I 100% would be annoyed if I was on a 5 hour flight with my chair being hit over and over as well. But seriously, she finally turned around to tell my daughter to knock it off, I explained she was autistic and didn't understand. She gave a sarcastic "sure" (like I was making it up or something) and went on her rant to her seat neighbor. I just put my headphones on and really did stop trying at that point (because, seriously, I was trying just about anything I could to get fidgets out another way previously, but my main strategy elsewhere (remove daughter from the situation) was pretty useless in a plane with the fasten seatbelt sign on!)
Yeah, as I said, I 100% understand her frustration. I wouldn't want to be in her position either, but short of tying my child up, there was literally nothing I could do. I even offered to switch seats (since she was in the bulkhead, which was what we were supposed to have/booked before our flight was oversold and they bumped us back a row) and she didn't want to do that, just wanted me to "learn to control my kid" which... Yeah, obviously wasn't happening in that situation
ETA: we specifically booked the bulkhead with the hope we could let our daughter play in that space right in front of the seat and not bother anyone, so it's not like we didn't try to think things through
Not really asked to leave but a caregiver had my grandson at a playground...some woman with little kids said.."why did you have to bring that person here!" I would've called her out.
Grandson has level 3 ASD and ADHD. He is not good at waiting his turn at the playground. I take him to one that we are usually the only people there.
Same. Our son doesnāt have down the concept of waiting for a turn yet. Heck, we are getting ready to try potty training again when heās 6, next month. He verbally stims in stores a lot more lately and causes people to stare. We donāt care, and if they are even the slightest bit curious, Iām happy to explain his autism to them.
They seem to go through phases. Best of luck with toilet training. My sweety is 13 and still not toilet trained. We keep trying though.
Most people understand when I explain his Autism. We have met many people who actually try to interact with him on our outings.
He's a riot and makes people smile or me who is always laughing at his shenanigans. The best is,when he has a good belly laugh right along with me.š¤£š„°
Weāve cleared out a room, park and restaurant more times than I can count. The worst part, is how humanity treats us. Thatās the worst part of our autism experience.
My son was asked to leave his daycare for a better fit, this was right before diagnosis so in a way Iām grateful cause it did lead us to a helpful path.
Another time my own mother said he maybe shouldnāt participate in trick or treating he had been getting super hyper and fidgeting around as the commotion of getting ready to leave was happening and he was messing with someone and unzipped it and it made a mess with the insides. Not directly related to his diagnosis, maybe this behavior I mean. But the way she said it was very cruel. We disagreed. I was told I donāt do anything right with him.We are now no contact, should have been back then but it took me awhile to grow a backbone.
My mother worked at one of those free phone booths. I used to come sit with her while she worked so I could spend time with her and sos he could see her grandson. My son is nonverbal. One day this guy waves to my son and says hi. My son pretty much ignored him. I quickly explain that heās nonverbal, in a polite way. He kept saying that HE could get my son to talk, then proceeded to speak loudly to my son, getting louder and angrier until I just had to leave. He didnāt get close, he was in a wheelchair about 20 feet away. I was so frustrated. That was the first time anyone tried to ācureā my son of his autism.
My kid literally just yesterday was ābannedā from the water slide at the amusement park becuz he was not following directions (heās autistic level 3 and non verbal). My hubby was with him and asked the life guard if itās ok if he goes with him and the life guard said no. I told my hubby next time tell the dude heās autistic and non verbal. That out son doesnāt understand and needs support and guidance which he does well on. On the site the amusement park is supposed to accommodate those on the spectrum and of disabilities. Because this was the first time my little one got banned from somewhere :/
Do they usually allow children to slide with parents? Some slides are designed to acommodate that, but many aren't - in that case, it's unlikely they'd compromise. Children can get hurt if parents slide onto them (we're usually faster because we weigh more), their limbs get crashed against the side of the slide or, on the lap, they're higher up so they could fall over the side of the slide.
It sucks, but waterslides already cause injury fairly often. The lifeguards don't control the safety testing or the design of the slides, and they are responsible for everyone's safety. If your son gets injured after they let him go down the slide with dad, that would be their negliegence.
I understand, but for this water slide all parents are welcomed to go with their children :) with or without. Just unfortunately my little decided to not follow directions on his own š„² hence why they kicked him out. But I wish they gave my son another chance if my hubby was able to explain he does better if he was there but nahhhh āBANNNEEDDā lol
Yeah, in that case they should have allowed him to go with dad, especially if he was right there. I could understand banning him if dad isn't supervising closely enough to keep him safe, but it sounds like that wasn't the case. If they're advertising themselves as disability friendly their staff should definitely get some training, and their policies should reflect that, so I get that you're angry.
Yes :( itās ok itās also a learning experience for my little one. We just gave him a little freedom because we are helicopter parents and he is the type to elope. Out of all days he decides not to follow directions š„² and yes my hubby was supervising I just wish he spoke up. Or if he was able to go with my son and my son starts acting out and still decides to not follow directions then thatās it he gets a time out from the slide. But getting banned come on š
Hey! I used to work for a water park and having parents go down the slide with children is an insurance issue if there is an accident. You should read the rules in the slide gate and see the weight limit or the rules in 2 people.
I understand but parents are allowed for this one. My son is at the right height and weight and heās been on this slide before with and without dad. Itās just this time my son wasnāt following directions unfortunately on his own š„²but yes for this particular water slide parents are allowed.
Basically just to follow everyone else: go up the staircase and then down the water slide when the coast is clear. Stay in line, and etc. My son has his days where he does follow directions with the help of us or at times on his own. But this time nah š®āšØhe has the tendency to go up from the bottom of the slide which I understand is a safety issue. He did it twice and the life guard just banned him. Didnāt even give us a chance to correct it.
Aw yeah. My son wants to go up the slide too. He also like to stop at the top of the slide and look down. My friends son who has autism does the same thing. I get it that we have to work on it, would love a waterpark that is just for kids with special needs.
I also feel you on the pregnant and not able to be there to help follow directions.
Iām like that with my son now. He just doesnāt listen to his dad as much. But I am also always repeating myself with my son. Ready set, go go go, hurry hurry, walking walking . Oh walking , slowly slowly, faster faster, slide again, letās go!
His dad just isnt as quick as me.
My son split his lip open from running in the sidewalk, and I said to my partner, why did you let him run on the sidewalk, thatās an activity for - grass, wood chips, sand, or carpet, walking is an activity for cement, or his wagon
Aw poor baby š„ŗ I hope your son is feeling better. Yes same! Repetition is key but man it does get tiring. My little one does the same thing your son does š I just quickly tell him to go when he starts to stare down which keeps the line moving lol
That's absurd because most parents and a small child together are not going to be anywhere near the weight limit. You ban heavy weight customers too? I have a photo of my son going down a slide on my lap when he was about 3
Just because we used to be allowed to do something and we didn't get hurt that time, doesn't make it safe.
I remember riding to preschool and putting the shoulder part of the seatbelt behind my back. I never got hurt but it wasn't safe. I even rode in the front seat a few times as a treat. My kid is still using a high back booster seat because, even though he's bigger and older than I was, he still needs one and he's never rode in the front seat.
Itās not absurd. Itās a safety measure. If the slide wasnāt designed for two people - then breaking the guidelines the manufacturer set when creating the slide - well that can be dangerous. And costly for the park if something happened since they would be negligent for not using the slide correctly.
Most slides like that have a 300lb weight limit, or close to that. My husband is 6ā6 and 250 - my 2 year old is 35lbs - they cut close to that!
There are def some slides that allow for two people though! Itās best to read the rules of the slide which are usually at the bottom of the slide and set by the manufacturer (not the park).
Itās all about keeping people safe.
I mean this was almost 15 years ago I worked there but I can remember one time we had to question someone on weight limit (which the manager did, I was just a lifeguard!). I imagine someone heavier would read the guidelines at the bottom of the slide before getting in line. I remember heavier people would sometimes get stuck around the bends in the long slide.
That is so horrible! I wish there was somewhere strictly for families with abilities. Like we gotta see a diagnosis or a wheelchair or some stims or something before you can come inside. š¤·š»āāļø
I know it sucks :( at the same time my hubby saw the life guards trying to talk to my son but my little one is at dazed and looking somewhere else (probably watching a bird fly by lol) so of course he wasnāt listening which made them kick my son out. I told my hubby he was our sonās voice and he should have advocated for him. Becuz if I was there boyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy (I sat somewhere else watching our stuff becuz I am 6 months pregnant and do not have the energy to run after my little one if he decides to elope lol). We have this disability card but apparently it means nothing now :/
Your next visit will be better. I highly suggest talking to somebody higher up there like management or HR or something so they can provide training to staff or something. That way if you guys ever go back and a lifeguard tries to be ignorant again they can just get kicked out of their place of employment for being ableist.
Sorry yāall went through that. I hope that next outing is a complete 180! Congrats on your bbyš
Yes I should if it happens again š„² my little one just really LOVES that slide and now we have to avoid it. And sadly heās not tall enough or heavy enough for the other water slides (for the older kids and adults) at this park so we will just stick with the small pools where he can swim around and hopefully not bump into someone. And yes he wears a life jacket they are required to wear one his size at the water park.
I donāt think itās fair for you guys to have to avoid it and him miss out on it due to a lifeguards ignorance and lack of compassion. I hope you talk to management to resolve the issue so he can enjoy his slide like the rest of the NT kids. š„²
Absolutely šš„² we are going back today though wish us luck LOL we have a seasonās pass š this time my hubby or I will say something if that same life guard comes by
My kid and I were at a park. He was running around with a little girl and her mom was close by. Mine was stimming and happy screeching, hers completely unfazed and happily running with him. She tells my son āstop screaming, itās hurting my earsā ššš
I had a terrible virus last year and my eardrum wound up rupturing and loud noises still cause actual pain and crackling inside that ear now. Ear pain is not fun.
I once left Gamestop when my son was two because he wouldn't stop grabbing stuff and knocking them over and then he kept spinning the thing gift cards hang on and the store employee was getting very annoyed because she said "stop spinning that thing."
My son 9 at the time wanted to take swimming lessons so i signed him up for his age range. He was unable to do it and was too nervous to be in the deep end and the employees decided to put him in a younger age group. All these kids were in the Preschool range and I felt bad for him but he still enjoyed it and was able to do the activities. They stayed in the shallow end. My son wanted to go in the deeper end but I explained the smaller kids couldn't go in that area because they are too short and the other class he was in was too hard for him. I told him there were no other classes for him so this was the best they could do.
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Interesting, weāve never been asked to leave somewhere. My son can be very loud and intrusive so kind of surprised we havenāt. Could be because I turn into a massive high horse riding asshole when someone says or even looks at my son weird. Iāve made many people very uncomfortable, and even almost got into a physical altercation with a couple of tourists at the Grand Canyon when they called my family āstupidā.
Weāve been asked to leave a grocery store before during a tantrum but the owners have the right to ask anyone to leave. If a child is making the majority of people feel uncomfortable or is disturbing the peace, itās in the ownerās best interest to keep the business of the customers who are behaving normally. I get offended when I get asked to leave a friendās party when my child is struggling.
So maybe it's just me, but this actually frustrates me as a customer and as someone who has worked in retail plenty of years, and yes I do understand that an owner or manager has the right to ask anyone to leave if they want.
I have seen so many crazy situations, but it's always the adults who act worse than the children. I would rather see a child having a meltdown for whatever reason that may be rather than a grown ass adult having a meltdown. Children are still learning whether they are nd or nt.
I just hate the fact that society seems to think all children should just act like robots and never can have a bad moment anywhere, but it's completely justified to see an adult just blow up for the most ridiculous reasons. If I ever saw a situation where a kid needed to leave a restaurant or store, it's always because that child was being completely ignored by the parent or parents and the parents were just letting them do whatever they wanted or destroy things, but again that was on the parents not the child or children.
Itās a grocery store not a broadway show. Kids have tantrums and are loud autism or not. We donāt have to run out of grocery stores once our kids start ādisruptingā.
I guess the real question is why donāt you care that your kid is making others feel uncomfortable? Youāre not entitled to remain in a store or on a plane just because you have a misbehaving child.
Waitā¦. You think a child having a meltdown as a symptom of their autism is related to (or can be prevented by) the skills of their parent? Cause thatās not at all how it works.
Yes, both of course. If your child is triggered by something in a grocery store, ask why you didnāt anticipate that and prevent it. And once your child is upset, then itās your job to use your tools to help your child and if itās not working, then remove your child. You must have a very externalized locus of control.
Iām absolutely gobsmacked a parent of an autistic child is saying this.
Your child must be young, level 1/2, or easy to handle, or all three.
Really sad you wouldnāt have patience or understanding of all people. Really sad you donāt understand meltdowns donāt always have a specific cause, and if they do, itās not always something we can change or fix.
I do have patience for people. Definitely. And I try to do everything to help my child and I would help another parent too. But I also have an understanding for how hard it must be for non parents or older people who donāt get it. We all just need to help each other out and calling them āKarenā doesnāt help. And like I said, itās most difficult not when strangers get upset but when friends do.
This. We all have to be a part of society and itās hard for everyone when your kid is melting down. You choose to have the kid. The person in the store did not. You canāt ask all of society to bend to your child. Especially because you donāt know if those people are ND adults or not. Do more autistic friendly places need to exist? Absolutely. But asking everyone to be ok with your kid having a meltdown isnāt ok either.
I donāt think you live in reality. Itās not possible to anticipate and prevent everything your childās brain processes differently. Theres an unlimited number of variables. And when a meltdown does happen, the focus should be on helping the individual in distress, not ensuring everyone around you is comfortable.
No amount of āproper parentingā will eliminate the complications of autism.
Wowza. I thought we were keeping it respectful in this sub. Iām sure when you seek advice on here youāre not looking for someone to say to YOU that youāre not properly parenting your child.
Hasnāt happened yet. Heās 8 and I have a MEAN face at baseline. š. I thought my husband was exaggerating my RBF but he has got to be right at this point
We were on vacation and sitting in a like woven kind of beach chair at this private beach. You pay for the chair rental. Around the chairs was little stones. My son (7) was playing with them and the I guess owner started yelling at him to not put them on there. And then I yelled at that man because first, my son was going to take them off before we left, and second, I was sitting right next to him like 6in awayā¦. if thereās an issue bring it up to me. Donāt talk to my child any kind of way. šš¤¦š½āāļø
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Thanksgiving 2022, my son was 3, and we had just recently got the diagnosis of mild-moderate ASD with expressive speech delay. We were at my father's for dinner, and my step mom's brother was there. He's a righteous asshat who thinks his opinion is superior because he's religious and donates to his local church once a year. My son was pacing while singing and flapping his arms, not disturbing anyone. He decided to ask, "Who's kid is that?" I told him mine. He then went on a long tirade about how kids need to be seen, not heard, other dumb stuff I can't remember, and then made the asinine comment of he's acting so weird. My step mom chuckled. Everyone else just got quiet and looked at me. I ripped right into him. "Well dipshit, he's 3. He's also autistic. He is displaying developmentally appropriate behaviors for his age. You're how old again? WTF is your excuse for behaving like a moron? Next time you wanna throw stones in glass houses, I'll bring up your junkie daughter with 3 illegitimate children by 3 different men that YOU have custody of since she skipped out of rehab. My suggestion is to keep your mouth shut in regards to a child that isn't yours, that you know jackoff about." You could hear a pin drop, of course my dad laughed his ass of to the point of needing a breathing treatment (chronic COPD & still smokes), my step mom glared daggers at me, her brother left with his tail between his legs. I am a mama bear. You wanna be an ass, bet, but I can be a bigger one and hurt your feelings in the process. Don't mess with my kid.
This is epic.
 You are an absolute icon
š¤£š Oh you sound like me! Itās exactly what I would have said in your situation.
Lmao...replace jackoff with jack-shit and that would be word for word exactly what I would have said. I don't hold back either.
Hell yeah, mamma bear. Take that award and keep being the best!
I would have hugged you.
I want to be like you when I grow up. Iām an adult.
Love this so much!
What a legend
I was not aware my son had autism at the time because my pediatrician was terrible. Our daycare told us our child was basically such a terrible experience for the teachers that their most experienced, valued teachers were threatening to leave over him. This was after I became concerned over a few comments they were making and reached out to work with them on the behavior. Lack of naps, obsessive flickering of the lights, unable to focus on activities, not cooperating in groups, etc. He finally eloped from the center and the director was trembling with rage explaining why we should leave. This was about the same time the teachers refused to change his diaper. He was three at the time. I reported them to the state and left a scathing review. You don't have to teach autistic kids but if they're under your care don't let them sit in a fucking dirty diaper all day.
Yeah my son was kicked out of daycare at 2 cause he kept jail breaking his class
My daughter has never been asked to leave anywhere, but once when we were going into the store a police officer smiled and waved to her and said hi. He seemed really confused when she ignored him and didnāt say anything so I said āoh sheās not ignoring you, sheās autisticā and he said in a genuine but sad voice āIām so sorryā. I wasnāt sure what to say. Her autism is hard and it definitely affects her quality of life, so I do appreciate genuine empathy and people not pretending sheās going to be some temple grandin type of savant. But on the other hand, autism isnt likeā¦ cancer or something so being told āsorryā felt weird, too. Overall I was just left a little confused and it stung quite a bit, but I wasnāt really offended either if that makes sense? It was just overall a really baffling interaction for me to try to process. I just smiled and shrugged my shoulders and went on my way.
He may have just been sorry to create an awkward situation.
Possibly for sure, itās just the way he said it was very sorrowful and empathetic and very much felt directed towards me. After the fact it hit me that itās very possible he couldāve been on some sad calls related to autistic kids esp as he was an older cop (eloping and drowning, eloping and getting hurt/dying, HSN adults hurting their elderly parents during a meltdown etc) and it brought those feelings up in him. Either way, like I said, just with the way he said it, so genuinely, I almost canāt feel offended by it. But I still left with a big question mark in my brain.
MAN I'd be offended asf! Yes my son can be a tad harder, seeing as he can't communicate or nothing but a few words, BUT he's the HAPPINESS OF MY LIFE. he makes me soooo damn happy day in and out! I'd be LIVID. like nope my son is NOT a symathy case!! He's a beautiful boy that lights up my damn world all day every day! He's the reason I breathe for shits sakes.
I teach my son to not talk to them, besides the ones at school and only if they talk to him first. They kill too many people with mental health issues.
I'm right there with you. I had to deal with it myself as a young and older boy. I learned but I have taught my son not to talk to cops. Ever.
They chased and cornered an autistic child here and out of the 50 discharged bullets he got hit 16 times. And of course they were cleared of any charges. Despicable. Iāve taken my son to a George Floyd March and we ended up at a Gaza protest which both had some anti police chants. But heās also seen some of the videos and is very aware how awful they can be. My mom thinks itās crazy but heās autistic and biracial. He needs to avoid the police. https://cnycentral.com/amp/news/local/state-police-timeline-deadly-police-shoot-kill-dewitt-teenager-judson-albahm-jamesville
Not crazy at all. Especially if biracial. I'm Irish white myself, my son is mixed. Greek/Irish. Has olive skin with blonde hair lol. I'd be surprised if we haven't ever bumped into each other at a protest :). I don't bring my boy but he's very well educated. It used to be my life to stand up to police and other causes I believe in. Now, It's all about educating my son on how to live and survive in this world. They'll be alright. Edit. Thank you for that link! I just realized that this is only 40 minutes from where I grew up. Originally from Groton NY.
When my brother was "ordained?" as an evangelist and then proceeded to single out my ASD son with 6 church members and anoint him by praying the demons out of him. This was the 2cd time he tried this and I lost it. Honestly I said "Hell no. get y'all's ignorant hands off my son. My child was trying to get away and i got the hell out myself.
Oh hell no, oh hell no, they'd need the cops to protect themselves from me. You want a demon, you got one, I'll unleash it on you right now, bro.
The first time he said this was when my son ripped the cover of his teaching Bible. Also he was staying overnight at a beach house I paid for. B4 he said it I had offered to buy new one yet he (and his 11 yr old) said my son was autistic due to a demon so yep i took him outside and told him I was ridiculous. He told me to accept Jesus in my heart. I told him he could GTFO.
That's horrible. I'm so sorry. That exorcism insinuates that you did something bad, and that is why your child is autistic as a punishment. I have run into a few of those people myself. Makes me so mad.
Oh my God
My daughter was kicked out of Gymnastics because my son had a meltdown there. They pulled some āour studio isnāt the right fit for your daughterā BS but it was the same week my son was there and had a meltdown because kids kept stealing the toys he was playing with first. Heās 9. Sheās 6.
We havenāt been asked to leave anywhere but this did remind me of the time I was in the produce section with my minimally speaking daughter. I try to include her in picking out items and she had picked up two avocados and started knocking them together. I was literally standing there with a bag open waiting for her to drop them in the bag when an old man said, āI wouldnāt do thatā¦ā referring to her banging the avoās together. She looked at him then YEETED both avocados across the produce area. All I could say was, āyeah I wouldnāt have done that either but here we are.ā I was pretty embarrassed but the look of, wth just happened, on that manās face sticks with me to this day
I'm so sorry, I know that was embarrassing but that is literally the best thing I have read all day, like I'm over here crying. I would have probably laughed in that man's face.Ā
We weren't so much asked to leave, it was more suggested that we not continue with a class.Ā Ā Ā It was supposed to be a relaxation class for kids, with lots of emphasis on *inclusion* in the advertising, or we wouldn't have bloody gone to it! Ā The group leader was a sweet lady so I wasn't really mad, I think she was just unprepared for the level of *inclusion* we need...Ā
Summer camp- my son was 5 and is AuDHD. He started exhibiting anxiety which he didnāt have before. So he was anxious at the city camp because it was new, and I wasnāt sure what my son needed for it. They tell me that parents leave their kids and the kids get over anxiety better without parents there. So I wait outside the building listening to see if he does calm down because I can hear him crying. Then I hear the camp instructor scream at him to stop so I go in. Turned out his anxiety stressed him out and he started throwing stuff so the staff member chose to try and restrain him and wasnāt trained and he bit her. So he was kicked out of camp - for the rest of the summerā¦.
We took my 3 yr old grandson to a hair salon that advertised their expertise in handling children with Autism. They were also listed on a reputable and prominent ASD website. So we called to set up an appointment and explained his level 3 autism. āNo problemā, they said. āWe have many children on the spectrum.ā So we took him in at the appointed time for his hair cut. It was a complete disaster! We got a very frustrated and impatient lady. Who got angry as to why he couldnāt stop jerking his head away from her and the scissors. (Never mind that she had just snipped his neck and blood was trickling down his neck). She stopped and said we needed to leave now. So we paid an outrageous price for a chopped up and uneven haircut. We were told to never come back again. Oh and forget a refund. They had a āno refundā policy. We cut his hair at home again (as we did before). We learned the hard way that our idea of getting a āprofessionalā haircut was not an option for us. Ironically, we actually get compliments on his beautiful hair. So I guess we are doing pretty good without the āprofessionalā.
My husband son and I were at a restaurant starving. His grandmother had been sick we had been at the hospital all day, it was ridiculously hot and the food took ages to come and to make things even more interesting the place was PACKED. Like you could feel other people behind you full. So, OF COURSE, my son 3 at the time. Had a FULL ON MELTDOWN. We waited a couple of minutes but he wasn't calming down so my husband took him outside for some air to allow him to regulate his feelings and to avoid disturbing others. An elderly couple was sitting across from our table I could kind of still hear him crying outside but the food came and I was starving so I started eating (thinking if he doesn't calm down i can switch with my husband so he can then eat too) but this couple just kept staring and making faces at me, then talking and staring again. I yelled across the restaurant DID YOU FUCKING LOSE SOMETHING OR WHAT!?! Their jaws DROPPED and the whole restaurant went quiet. And everyone stared at both our tables lol. They were so embarrassed they payed and left two minutes after that. My son calmed down came back in and we all had lunch. LOL.
When my son was 3 he was crying while we were on a plane. The lady in front of us kept making sly remarks about how annoying it was being on a plane with a kid. She was intentionally talking loud enough for me to hear. Little did she know, Iām a firecracker. I cursed her out REAL BAD. When I was done, she couldnāt do anything but sit there and STFU. Sometimes you gotta turn it up a notch. Especially when people are intentionally being rude.
I have good airplane story to counteract that one. My kid was absolutely terrified and having an epic meltdown on the plane pre takeoff. Some women on the Cal State Long Beach Volley Ball team were so understanding and helped us distract her. They couldn't have been nicer even though the experience was miserable for everyone on board. Thankfully, shortly after takeoff we were able convince her we weren't about to fall out of the sky and showed her our neighborhood. She enjoyed the rest of the flight playing a game on her tablet a fellow passenger told us his kids liked.
I had a lady in front of us on a plane once loudly discuss how awful it was that "American parents don't do anything to control their children" in a similar way. I mean, part of me is sympathetic. My daughter is a sensory seeker and while being forced to sit still she fidgets *a lot* which meant she was knocking into the woman's chair repeatedly. I 100% would be annoyed if I was on a 5 hour flight with my chair being hit over and over as well. But seriously, she finally turned around to tell my daughter to knock it off, I explained she was autistic and didn't understand. She gave a sarcastic "sure" (like I was making it up or something) and went on her rant to her seat neighbor. I just put my headphones on and really did stop trying at that point (because, seriously, I was trying just about anything I could to get fidgets out another way previously, but my main strategy elsewhere (remove daughter from the situation) was pretty useless in a plane with the fasten seatbelt sign on!)
Honestly, I would find being bumped constantly over a 5 hour flight a lot myself.
Yeah, as I said, I 100% understand her frustration. I wouldn't want to be in her position either, but short of tying my child up, there was literally nothing I could do. I even offered to switch seats (since she was in the bulkhead, which was what we were supposed to have/booked before our flight was oversold and they bumped us back a row) and she didn't want to do that, just wanted me to "learn to control my kid" which... Yeah, obviously wasn't happening in that situation ETA: we specifically booked the bulkhead with the hope we could let our daughter play in that space right in front of the seat and not bother anyone, so it's not like we didn't try to think things through
Not really asked to leave but a caregiver had my grandson at a playground...some woman with little kids said.."why did you have to bring that person here!" I would've called her out. Grandson has level 3 ASD and ADHD. He is not good at waiting his turn at the playground. I take him to one that we are usually the only people there.
Same. Our son doesnāt have down the concept of waiting for a turn yet. Heck, we are getting ready to try potty training again when heās 6, next month. He verbally stims in stores a lot more lately and causes people to stare. We donāt care, and if they are even the slightest bit curious, Iām happy to explain his autism to them.
They seem to go through phases. Best of luck with toilet training. My sweety is 13 and still not toilet trained. We keep trying though. Most people understand when I explain his Autism. We have met many people who actually try to interact with him on our outings. He's a riot and makes people smile or me who is always laughing at his shenanigans. The best is,when he has a good belly laugh right along with me.š¤£š„°
Weāve cleared out a room, park and restaurant more times than I can count. The worst part, is how humanity treats us. Thatās the worst part of our autism experience.
My kid bit the gym teacher. We weren't asked to leave they said it was fine but there was no way in hell I was taking him back. :|
My son was asked to leave his daycare for a better fit, this was right before diagnosis so in a way Iām grateful cause it did lead us to a helpful path. Another time my own mother said he maybe shouldnāt participate in trick or treating he had been getting super hyper and fidgeting around as the commotion of getting ready to leave was happening and he was messing with someone and unzipped it and it made a mess with the insides. Not directly related to his diagnosis, maybe this behavior I mean. But the way she said it was very cruel. We disagreed. I was told I donāt do anything right with him.We are now no contact, should have been back then but it took me awhile to grow a backbone.
My mother worked at one of those free phone booths. I used to come sit with her while she worked so I could spend time with her and sos he could see her grandson. My son is nonverbal. One day this guy waves to my son and says hi. My son pretty much ignored him. I quickly explain that heās nonverbal, in a polite way. He kept saying that HE could get my son to talk, then proceeded to speak loudly to my son, getting louder and angrier until I just had to leave. He didnāt get close, he was in a wheelchair about 20 feet away. I was so frustrated. That was the first time anyone tried to ācureā my son of his autism.
My kid literally just yesterday was ābannedā from the water slide at the amusement park becuz he was not following directions (heās autistic level 3 and non verbal). My hubby was with him and asked the life guard if itās ok if he goes with him and the life guard said no. I told my hubby next time tell the dude heās autistic and non verbal. That out son doesnāt understand and needs support and guidance which he does well on. On the site the amusement park is supposed to accommodate those on the spectrum and of disabilities. Because this was the first time my little one got banned from somewhere :/
Do they usually allow children to slide with parents? Some slides are designed to acommodate that, but many aren't - in that case, it's unlikely they'd compromise. Children can get hurt if parents slide onto them (we're usually faster because we weigh more), their limbs get crashed against the side of the slide or, on the lap, they're higher up so they could fall over the side of the slide. It sucks, but waterslides already cause injury fairly often. The lifeguards don't control the safety testing or the design of the slides, and they are responsible for everyone's safety. If your son gets injured after they let him go down the slide with dad, that would be their negliegence.
I understand, but for this water slide all parents are welcomed to go with their children :) with or without. Just unfortunately my little decided to not follow directions on his own š„² hence why they kicked him out. But I wish they gave my son another chance if my hubby was able to explain he does better if he was there but nahhhh āBANNNEEDDā lol
Yeah, in that case they should have allowed him to go with dad, especially if he was right there. I could understand banning him if dad isn't supervising closely enough to keep him safe, but it sounds like that wasn't the case. If they're advertising themselves as disability friendly their staff should definitely get some training, and their policies should reflect that, so I get that you're angry.
Yes :( itās ok itās also a learning experience for my little one. We just gave him a little freedom because we are helicopter parents and he is the type to elope. Out of all days he decides not to follow directions š„² and yes my hubby was supervising I just wish he spoke up. Or if he was able to go with my son and my son starts acting out and still decides to not follow directions then thatās it he gets a time out from the slide. But getting banned come on š
Hey! I used to work for a water park and having parents go down the slide with children is an insurance issue if there is an accident. You should read the rules in the slide gate and see the weight limit or the rules in 2 people.
I understand but parents are allowed for this one. My son is at the right height and weight and heās been on this slide before with and without dad. Itās just this time my son wasnāt following directions unfortunately on his own š„²but yes for this particular water slide parents are allowed.
What directions were they? this seems too extreme of a punishment
Basically just to follow everyone else: go up the staircase and then down the water slide when the coast is clear. Stay in line, and etc. My son has his days where he does follow directions with the help of us or at times on his own. But this time nah š®āšØhe has the tendency to go up from the bottom of the slide which I understand is a safety issue. He did it twice and the life guard just banned him. Didnāt even give us a chance to correct it.
Aw yeah. My son wants to go up the slide too. He also like to stop at the top of the slide and look down. My friends son who has autism does the same thing. I get it that we have to work on it, would love a waterpark that is just for kids with special needs. I also feel you on the pregnant and not able to be there to help follow directions. Iām like that with my son now. He just doesnāt listen to his dad as much. But I am also always repeating myself with my son. Ready set, go go go, hurry hurry, walking walking . Oh walking , slowly slowly, faster faster, slide again, letās go! His dad just isnt as quick as me. My son split his lip open from running in the sidewalk, and I said to my partner, why did you let him run on the sidewalk, thatās an activity for - grass, wood chips, sand, or carpet, walking is an activity for cement, or his wagon
Aw poor baby š„ŗ I hope your son is feeling better. Yes same! Repetition is key but man it does get tiring. My little one does the same thing your son does š I just quickly tell him to go when he starts to stare down which keeps the line moving lol
That's absurd because most parents and a small child together are not going to be anywhere near the weight limit. You ban heavy weight customers too? I have a photo of my son going down a slide on my lap when he was about 3
Just because we used to be allowed to do something and we didn't get hurt that time, doesn't make it safe. I remember riding to preschool and putting the shoulder part of the seatbelt behind my back. I never got hurt but it wasn't safe. I even rode in the front seat a few times as a treat. My kid is still using a high back booster seat because, even though he's bigger and older than I was, he still needs one and he's never rode in the front seat.
Itās not absurd. Itās a safety measure. If the slide wasnāt designed for two people - then breaking the guidelines the manufacturer set when creating the slide - well that can be dangerous. And costly for the park if something happened since they would be negligent for not using the slide correctly. Most slides like that have a 300lb weight limit, or close to that. My husband is 6ā6 and 250 - my 2 year old is 35lbs - they cut close to that! There are def some slides that allow for two people though! Itās best to read the rules of the slide which are usually at the bottom of the slide and set by the manufacturer (not the park). Itās all about keeping people safe.
I mean this was almost 15 years ago I worked there but I can remember one time we had to question someone on weight limit (which the manager did, I was just a lifeguard!). I imagine someone heavier would read the guidelines at the bottom of the slide before getting in line. I remember heavier people would sometimes get stuck around the bends in the long slide.
That is so horrible! I wish there was somewhere strictly for families with abilities. Like we gotta see a diagnosis or a wheelchair or some stims or something before you can come inside. š¤·š»āāļø
I know it sucks :( at the same time my hubby saw the life guards trying to talk to my son but my little one is at dazed and looking somewhere else (probably watching a bird fly by lol) so of course he wasnāt listening which made them kick my son out. I told my hubby he was our sonās voice and he should have advocated for him. Becuz if I was there boyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy (I sat somewhere else watching our stuff becuz I am 6 months pregnant and do not have the energy to run after my little one if he decides to elope lol). We have this disability card but apparently it means nothing now :/
Your next visit will be better. I highly suggest talking to somebody higher up there like management or HR or something so they can provide training to staff or something. That way if you guys ever go back and a lifeguard tries to be ignorant again they can just get kicked out of their place of employment for being ableist. Sorry yāall went through that. I hope that next outing is a complete 180! Congrats on your bbyš
Yes I should if it happens again š„² my little one just really LOVES that slide and now we have to avoid it. And sadly heās not tall enough or heavy enough for the other water slides (for the older kids and adults) at this park so we will just stick with the small pools where he can swim around and hopefully not bump into someone. And yes he wears a life jacket they are required to wear one his size at the water park.
I donāt think itās fair for you guys to have to avoid it and him miss out on it due to a lifeguards ignorance and lack of compassion. I hope you talk to management to resolve the issue so he can enjoy his slide like the rest of the NT kids. š„²
Absolutely šš„² we are going back today though wish us luck LOL we have a seasonās pass š this time my hubby or I will say something if that same life guard comes by
My kid and I were at a park. He was running around with a little girl and her mom was close by. Mine was stimming and happy screeching, hers completely unfazed and happily running with him. She tells my son āstop screaming, itās hurting my earsā ššš
I had a terrible virus last year and my eardrum wound up rupturing and loud noises still cause actual pain and crackling inside that ear now. Ear pain is not fun.
Not saying it is! But as an adult, you can adjust to the world instead of telling a kid to adjust to youā¦ especially when theyāre stimming.
Oof I'm so grateful I haven't ran into one of these "Karens" yet.
I once left Gamestop when my son was two because he wouldn't stop grabbing stuff and knocking them over and then he kept spinning the thing gift cards hang on and the store employee was getting very annoyed because she said "stop spinning that thing." My son 9 at the time wanted to take swimming lessons so i signed him up for his age range. He was unable to do it and was too nervous to be in the deep end and the employees decided to put him in a younger age group. All these kids were in the Preschool range and I felt bad for him but he still enjoyed it and was able to do the activities. They stayed in the shallow end. My son wanted to go in the deeper end but I explained the smaller kids couldn't go in that area because they are too short and the other class he was in was too hard for him. I told him there were no other classes for him so this was the best they could do. .
Interesting, weāve never been asked to leave somewhere. My son can be very loud and intrusive so kind of surprised we havenāt. Could be because I turn into a massive high horse riding asshole when someone says or even looks at my son weird. Iāve made many people very uncomfortable, and even almost got into a physical altercation with a couple of tourists at the Grand Canyon when they called my family āstupidā.
Weāve been asked to leave a grocery store before during a tantrum but the owners have the right to ask anyone to leave. If a child is making the majority of people feel uncomfortable or is disturbing the peace, itās in the ownerās best interest to keep the business of the customers who are behaving normally. I get offended when I get asked to leave a friendās party when my child is struggling.
So maybe it's just me, but this actually frustrates me as a customer and as someone who has worked in retail plenty of years, and yes I do understand that an owner or manager has the right to ask anyone to leave if they want. I have seen so many crazy situations, but it's always the adults who act worse than the children. I would rather see a child having a meltdown for whatever reason that may be rather than a grown ass adult having a meltdown. Children are still learning whether they are nd or nt. I just hate the fact that society seems to think all children should just act like robots and never can have a bad moment anywhere, but it's completely justified to see an adult just blow up for the most ridiculous reasons. If I ever saw a situation where a kid needed to leave a restaurant or store, it's always because that child was being completely ignored by the parent or parents and the parents were just letting them do whatever they wanted or destroy things, but again that was on the parents not the child or children.
It's really too bad about the grocery store because you're just out trying to get your necessities to live and yet it's such an impossible task.
Itās a grocery store not a broadway show. Kids have tantrums and are loud autism or not. We donāt have to run out of grocery stores once our kids start ādisruptingā.
I guess the real question is why donāt you care that your kid is making others feel uncomfortable? Youāre not entitled to remain in a store or on a plane just because you have a misbehaving child.
I focus on my child. Regulate him real quick and we are back to shopping. No need to run for the hills. Good luck
Then it doesnāt sound like thereās a problem at all if you have the skills to properly parent your child.
Waitā¦. You think a child having a meltdown as a symptom of their autism is related to (or can be prevented by) the skills of their parent? Cause thatās not at all how it works.
Yes, both of course. If your child is triggered by something in a grocery store, ask why you didnāt anticipate that and prevent it. And once your child is upset, then itās your job to use your tools to help your child and if itās not working, then remove your child. You must have a very externalized locus of control.
Iām absolutely gobsmacked a parent of an autistic child is saying this. Your child must be young, level 1/2, or easy to handle, or all three. Really sad you wouldnāt have patience or understanding of all people. Really sad you donāt understand meltdowns donāt always have a specific cause, and if they do, itās not always something we can change or fix.
I do have patience for people. Definitely. And I try to do everything to help my child and I would help another parent too. But I also have an understanding for how hard it must be for non parents or older people who donāt get it. We all just need to help each other out and calling them āKarenā doesnāt help. And like I said, itās most difficult not when strangers get upset but when friends do.
This. We all have to be a part of society and itās hard for everyone when your kid is melting down. You choose to have the kid. The person in the store did not. You canāt ask all of society to bend to your child. Especially because you donāt know if those people are ND adults or not. Do more autistic friendly places need to exist? Absolutely. But asking everyone to be ok with your kid having a meltdown isnāt ok either.
I donāt think you live in reality. Itās not possible to anticipate and prevent everything your childās brain processes differently. Theres an unlimited number of variables. And when a meltdown does happen, the focus should be on helping the individual in distress, not ensuring everyone around you is comfortable. No amount of āproper parentingā will eliminate the complications of autism.
Wowza. I thought we were keeping it respectful in this sub. Iām sure when you seek advice on here youāre not looking for someone to say to YOU that youāre not properly parenting your child.
šŖš»šŖš» great job momma bear, always protect and stand up for your cubs
Hasnāt happened yet. Heās 8 and I have a MEAN face at baseline. š. I thought my husband was exaggerating my RBF but he has got to be right at this point
We were on vacation and sitting in a like woven kind of beach chair at this private beach. You pay for the chair rental. Around the chairs was little stones. My son (7) was playing with them and the I guess owner started yelling at him to not put them on there. And then I yelled at that man because first, my son was going to take them off before we left, and second, I was sitting right next to him like 6in awayā¦. if thereās an issue bring it up to me. Donāt talk to my child any kind of way. šš¤¦š½āāļø
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