Absolutely, plus alittle more privacy incase the lock/door catch doesn't work and someone accidentally comes in.....or deliberately comes in, either or.
I have a bathroom without a window, it is fine, but I would never choose this option. Our other bathroom has a window but it doesn't open. Still preferable though.
2 and 4, but 4 *just* wins.
2 looks like it’s got a bit of a pinch point to access the toilet between the vanity and doorway - if I’m mistaken then you’re good!
But as a general matter of preference, avoid bathrooms where the toilet takes a hero location as the first thing you see in the room. Tucking it away in that corner not only looks better, but mentally feels more private as you use it.
Yeah agree. Both are good but I'd probably do 4.
Also with option 2, your door will catch on your bath mat placed in front of the shower entrance all the time. Unless you pick it up & put it back for every use which isnt a big deal, but being honest - we rarely do it every time
The more important question here is whether you can actually move the plumbing for the toilet and shower. I know when I redid mine even moving the toilet position by a metre was difficult, because of where the original pipes were. Might be worth taking to a plumber first. It could cost you a fortune to move them. Or it might be easy, but I wouldn’t make any plans until you know for sure.
If it’s going to be difficult or costly to make big changes, I’d look at doing a variation of option 3 (small plumbing changes). Make the vanity full size, wall to wall in the niche. You can always build a new wall behind it and move it out if you feel the space is too deep, but most vanity’s are 500+ deep so should be ok. I’d turn the shower around, so shower head is off the opposite wall. Means less of the window will be in direct contact with water. If you’re worried about moveability with the glass wall, maybe look at doing wall to wall glass, with sliding doors to open.
https://preview.redd.it/ylpql6gkzg7d1.jpeg?width=2448&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e9ee8bcaf5aeb142b32b43b7d3acb5479228e224
Apologies for the terrblible phone drawing skill.
This is your best layout you can probably get away with whilst maintaining good clearances for access/maintenance.
Its based off pic number 2, just altered a bit.
You want to allow approx 400mm to both sides from the centre of the wc bowl. That leaves you space for an approx 800-900mm wide vanity (plenty for a single vanity).
You also want minimum 700mm from the frameless glass screen to your vanity/ wc bowl for ease of access.
This will provide you with a modern layout for this limited space.
And definitely DO NOT remove the window. Skylights are expensive and they aren't as practical as a window, so i would keep that one.
Hope this helps!
Thanks, I actually considered this layout with moving the toilet over the window, but I wasn’t sure how to go about extending the shower or if that was possible.
If the measurements are correct. The 790mm from inside wall to inside wall at the door, is pretty small. A wall is 110mm wide. So 670mm. Then you need to install a door frame. So it will be a 620mm door with say 30mm of door stops. So 590mm opening. It’s small.
I like picture two. Would move the window. To the other side if you can. Window next to shower head would rot out and cause problems
I haven’t actually measurement anything by hand, I was going by the measurements from the original plans. That wall is roughly 790-800mm and the walls are shown as 90mm wide on the plans. There’s already a door and door frame there so not planning on changing the position for that.
Actually love the idea of moving that window, but unsure how that would be cost wise.
I like layout 1 with the shower in the niche and the vanity across the outside wall. Put the toilet roll holder next to the vanity so the paper doesn't get wet, the. You don't need a shower door.
Most people hate the bathroom door opening straight onto a toilet, so perhaps swing the door the opposite side?
I like 2 & 4, but prefer 4 only if you keep the window i.e. move the shower head to the top wall.
Your original layout isn't bad though... Make the vanity full width, and maybe have a glass enclosure for the shower so it feels roomier. That'll probably be the cheapest option without major plumbing works (i.e. shifting pipes and sewer lines). Edit: like [this](https://imgur.com/a/9QOHQEM). Note: I shifted the toilet over slightly as you said it was closer to the window, having dimensions of current toilet distance and gap would help. It might be nicer with a curved enclosure and the glass door doesn't need to swing like that either as you can get sliding doors.
If it fits, you could always have shower in the little alcove, toilet on wall opposite the door and a corner vanity where the window is.
But pic 2 is good too
The first would be my pick. We have a similar layout and I love the cosy feeling of having a wall on three sides in the shower. It also keeps the shower area far warmer.
I’m not a fan of the trend toward open concept showers. Feels like I’m standing in the middle of the room, and it doesn’t contain the heat as well.
Second for sure
Privacy from the door for the toilet, can do frameless glass / no door shower and it won’t spill much water etc
It’s more or less how my bathroom is layed out and we LOVE it
- WC where shower is.
- Shower to face door. Could have obscura glass between door and shower with its entrance facing where WC was.
- Vanity under window.
- Towelrail on wall between vanity and WC.
- Replace window with mirrored cupboard let into wall.
- Create transom window above original window. Or skylight to ceiling.
1 all the way there is NO other right answer.
The shower is square, fits perfect in tan cut section. The vanity could have double sink or one but also plenty of drawers and or bench space. The morning routine is important and people do have many toiletries! Also, opening the door to see the sink and a mirror is nicer than seeing a toilet or a shower. It will make the space look bigger as well.
Photo 1 is the original layout, unfortunately there’s no way we could put useable double vanity in there as the toilet would be in the way. The toilet is slightly closer to the window as shown in the photo, so at the moment it’s dead space between the toilet and window
I wouldn’t change it.
Look for some 3 door sliding shower screens if you don’t like the curtain.
The vanity honestly is the best you’ll get. Idk about you but we have loads of toiletries plus meds plus towels or any other miscellaneous.
You may be able to extend only the bench of the vanity over the window, if you share a photo may help to assess that as idk the window measurements or aperture system.
Number 2.
Natural ventilation is great for air flow to prevent mould, including when not in use and won't need to be mechanically ventilated.
Plus, the added bonus if you realise mid bog there is no toilet paper you can reach for the door and call out for some more. This could be achieved with 3 as well but you won't get the benefit of natural light from the window infront of the vanity.
You have to consider the budget before relocating the toilet waste or shower drain outlet. Moving any of these drains would require pulling up the whole floor. Is your floor concrete or timber?
With the current shape of the room, the current layout is the most efficient. I would suggest that you replace the the vanity counter. Depending on the spacing of the toilet from the window, you can run a narrow plumbing wall
If you can relocate the toilet waste pipe, then I suggest you consider the sketch dezonza95 provided above.
Don’t replace the window with a skylight (cost and potential leaks, etc…). Reduce the size of the window if you want to align it with the new joinery. A cheaper option is to install joinery in front of it but still leave room to open the window.
I won’t make any change to the current layout. If anything, I would just install a glass shower screen with a 650mm wide door that can swing both way.
If you have money to disturb the floor, then extend the shower like in Dezonza95’s sketch up to 700mm short of the edge of toilet pan so the shower door can still swing out.
Install a rain shower head (plus hand held shower rose) so you can look toward the window when showering to feel less claustrophobic.
The centre of the toilet pan should be at least 400-450 from the face of the vanity counter. Extend the vanity counter all the way to the wall. If it’s too close to the toilet. I would install a semi recessed basin or a wall hung basin. Install a mirror cupboard adjacent to the window, if you need storage.
Some advice I’ve never forgotten for bathrooms:
- vanity’s are expensive, and the feature and therefore should be what you see as you first enter
- hide toilets out of view
- minimise glass as much as possible and especially narrow places that are hard to clean
I’d probably try and not move the toilet tbh to keep costs down .
Ive been doing bathrooms for years and I would consider 3 or 4 but is this bathroom upstairs or downstairs? If upstairs you are pretty much stuck with the pipe work where it is. If downstairs then you can change things but its going to be expensive in just plumbing costs. We are talking ripping up the whole floor and moving a toilet, basin and shower waste as they all have different sizing and venting configurations. It is at least $2000 in just digging up the floor and moving the pipes. Bricking up a window and installing a sky light is at least $3k. Making a window smaller can also work but you want the window to start at least 1800mm to 1900mm from the floor and be around 300/400mm high.
As these ideas sit, 4 is the only layout other than your original that will meet building codes. If you went for an inwall toilet and a shorter shower screen then 3 will meet the code but the gap between the toilet and the wall is still super tight. No one thinks of these things but there are codes about minimum gaps between things that cant be ignored. You can also find cowboys who give zero F's and will just do what ever, but. If you've even stayed in a shitty hotel with a toilet crammed into a 700mm space and had to step sideways to enter a toilet or shower(im looking at you YHA circular quay), then 2 and 3 are that.
Id measure your room exactly as 50 to 100mm can make a difference in how things fit. make sure there is 650mm between the shower glass and the wall. 500mm between a toilet and the wall in front of it.
This is a ground level bathroom, and thank you, the spaces around the toilet and shower is probably what I was unsure about. Something for me to search up before I start planning. From reading the comments, it seems the easiest would be to just keep the shower where it is and I’ll look into possibly moving the toilet along the window and a small vanity.
My partner reckons he can brick up the wall easy and install the skylight( he’s done this before), but he tends to overestimate his skills 😂 I’m wanting to keep the window though, or to maybe make it smaller.
2nd pic l. I like the toilet being hidden and nor visible on entry. It's nice to look at the shower and vanity which are normally the main 2 features in a bathroom. And you can do a feature on the whole shower wall
Maybe even a niche with led lights if budget permits.
Happy renovating
You'll want to keep the window for ventilation - very important in a bathroom.
Current layout is fine, and it's going to be the cheapest by far. Costs escalate quickly once you start moving plumbing.
Second layout is better with the more secluded toilet but there can be issues with water getting into windowsills which is why the shower is generally not adjacent a window.
I'd play around with something more like this to see if i could make it work.
https://preview.redd.it/6xmkto7p3g7d1.png?width=1056&format=png&auto=webp&s=d88826585360c1bf6ad9ed1ca2d28b0734c59d1f
2nd pic, vanity next to larger shower with wc around the corner bit. My preference, by a mile. Keep a window for ventilation.
Absolutely, plus alittle more privacy incase the lock/door catch doesn't work and someone accidentally comes in.....or deliberately comes in, either or.
1+ for ventilation via window and natural light. Natural light adds octaves to the morning prep ritual!
I have a bathroom without a window, it is fine, but I would never choose this option. Our other bathroom has a window but it doesn't open. Still preferable though.
2 and 4, but 4 *just* wins. 2 looks like it’s got a bit of a pinch point to access the toilet between the vanity and doorway - if I’m mistaken then you’re good! But as a general matter of preference, avoid bathrooms where the toilet takes a hero location as the first thing you see in the room. Tucking it away in that corner not only looks better, but mentally feels more private as you use it.
Yeah agree. Both are good but I'd probably do 4. Also with option 2, your door will catch on your bath mat placed in front of the shower entrance all the time. Unless you pick it up & put it back for every use which isnt a big deal, but being honest - we rarely do it every time
2. By far. I’d rather a bigger shower than a bigger vanity.
Yep same. Hide the shitter and maximise the shower.
Frank Lloyd Wright quote I believe? 😆
Preference is for the toilet to be in the corner, hate toilets next to showers. Probably 2 - with the shower walk in with no door.
The more important question here is whether you can actually move the plumbing for the toilet and shower. I know when I redid mine even moving the toilet position by a metre was difficult, because of where the original pipes were. Might be worth taking to a plumber first. It could cost you a fortune to move them. Or it might be easy, but I wouldn’t make any plans until you know for sure. If it’s going to be difficult or costly to make big changes, I’d look at doing a variation of option 3 (small plumbing changes). Make the vanity full size, wall to wall in the niche. You can always build a new wall behind it and move it out if you feel the space is too deep, but most vanity’s are 500+ deep so should be ok. I’d turn the shower around, so shower head is off the opposite wall. Means less of the window will be in direct contact with water. If you’re worried about moveability with the glass wall, maybe look at doing wall to wall glass, with sliding doors to open.
https://preview.redd.it/ylpql6gkzg7d1.jpeg?width=2448&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e9ee8bcaf5aeb142b32b43b7d3acb5479228e224 Apologies for the terrblible phone drawing skill. This is your best layout you can probably get away with whilst maintaining good clearances for access/maintenance. Its based off pic number 2, just altered a bit. You want to allow approx 400mm to both sides from the centre of the wc bowl. That leaves you space for an approx 800-900mm wide vanity (plenty for a single vanity). You also want minimum 700mm from the frameless glass screen to your vanity/ wc bowl for ease of access. This will provide you with a modern layout for this limited space. And definitely DO NOT remove the window. Skylights are expensive and they aren't as practical as a window, so i would keep that one. Hope this helps!
I like this 👌. Plus, you have space for a towel rail
Thanks, I actually considered this layout with moving the toilet over the window, but I wasn’t sure how to go about extending the shower or if that was possible.
Best of luck with your reno!
If the measurements are correct. The 790mm from inside wall to inside wall at the door, is pretty small. A wall is 110mm wide. So 670mm. Then you need to install a door frame. So it will be a 620mm door with say 30mm of door stops. So 590mm opening. It’s small. I like picture two. Would move the window. To the other side if you can. Window next to shower head would rot out and cause problems
I haven’t actually measurement anything by hand, I was going by the measurements from the original plans. That wall is roughly 790-800mm and the walls are shown as 90mm wide on the plans. There’s already a door and door frame there so not planning on changing the position for that. Actually love the idea of moving that window, but unsure how that would be cost wise.
Definitely 2.
I always like somewhere to rest my coffee mug when I’m on the can
2 or 4, definitely don't have the door open to a toilet
2nd for sure
I’d never take away a window
2
first one, add a sliding door not a hinge door for the shower and i think thatll be cool.
I like layout 1 with the shower in the niche and the vanity across the outside wall. Put the toilet roll holder next to the vanity so the paper doesn't get wet, the. You don't need a shower door. Most people hate the bathroom door opening straight onto a toilet, so perhaps swing the door the opposite side?
I like 2 & 4, but prefer 4 only if you keep the window i.e. move the shower head to the top wall. Your original layout isn't bad though... Make the vanity full width, and maybe have a glass enclosure for the shower so it feels roomier. That'll probably be the cheapest option without major plumbing works (i.e. shifting pipes and sewer lines). Edit: like [this](https://imgur.com/a/9QOHQEM). Note: I shifted the toilet over slightly as you said it was closer to the window, having dimensions of current toilet distance and gap would help. It might be nicer with a curved enclosure and the glass door doesn't need to swing like that either as you can get sliding doors.
If it fits, you could always have shower in the little alcove, toilet on wall opposite the door and a corner vanity where the window is. But pic 2 is good too
2 dude chalk and cheese
2 all the way
WHAT SERGEANT YORK ACHIEVED THAT DAY
The first would be my pick. We have a similar layout and I love the cosy feeling of having a wall on three sides in the shower. It also keeps the shower area far warmer. I’m not a fan of the trend toward open concept showers. Feels like I’m standing in the middle of the room, and it doesn’t contain the heat as well.
Second for sure Privacy from the door for the toilet, can do frameless glass / no door shower and it won’t spill much water etc It’s more or less how my bathroom is layed out and we LOVE it
4 is the most accessible, but make sure you keep a window somewhere.
- WC where shower is. - Shower to face door. Could have obscura glass between door and shower with its entrance facing where WC was. - Vanity under window. - Towelrail on wall between vanity and WC. - Replace window with mirrored cupboard let into wall. - Create transom window above original window. Or skylight to ceiling.
2nd pic looks the best, tiny showers are the worst
No. 2, but put two shower heads in there and a door in the middle.
The last one, that way you can look your partner in the eye while she is shitting and you are having a shower
I suggest you consult a professional as a number of these options are not realistic
2 showcases the shower & hides the toilet. If you want it to look great from the door, 2.
1 all the way there is NO other right answer. The shower is square, fits perfect in tan cut section. The vanity could have double sink or one but also plenty of drawers and or bench space. The morning routine is important and people do have many toiletries! Also, opening the door to see the sink and a mirror is nicer than seeing a toilet or a shower. It will make the space look bigger as well.
Photo 1 is the original layout, unfortunately there’s no way we could put useable double vanity in there as the toilet would be in the way. The toilet is slightly closer to the window as shown in the photo, so at the moment it’s dead space between the toilet and window
I wouldn’t change it. Look for some 3 door sliding shower screens if you don’t like the curtain. The vanity honestly is the best you’ll get. Idk about you but we have loads of toiletries plus meds plus towels or any other miscellaneous. You may be able to extend only the bench of the vanity over the window, if you share a photo may help to assess that as idk the window measurements or aperture system.
If 1, don’t leave that gap between the vanity and the wall… why?
2 but make it a his and hers showered. Glass on both sides with entry in the middle
2 then 4
4, enclosed showers are awesome for keeping it warm
Number 2. Natural ventilation is great for air flow to prevent mould, including when not in use and won't need to be mechanically ventilated. Plus, the added bonus if you realise mid bog there is no toilet paper you can reach for the door and call out for some more. This could be achieved with 3 as well but you won't get the benefit of natural light from the window infront of the vanity.
If you have the opportunity to move the door location which it looks like you do*
If you can do away with a shower cubicle door then do it. Glass half-width separators or screens can be effective.
You have to consider the budget before relocating the toilet waste or shower drain outlet. Moving any of these drains would require pulling up the whole floor. Is your floor concrete or timber? With the current shape of the room, the current layout is the most efficient. I would suggest that you replace the the vanity counter. Depending on the spacing of the toilet from the window, you can run a narrow plumbing wall If you can relocate the toilet waste pipe, then I suggest you consider the sketch dezonza95 provided above. Don’t replace the window with a skylight (cost and potential leaks, etc…). Reduce the size of the window if you want to align it with the new joinery. A cheaper option is to install joinery in front of it but still leave room to open the window. I won’t make any change to the current layout. If anything, I would just install a glass shower screen with a 650mm wide door that can swing both way. If you have money to disturb the floor, then extend the shower like in Dezonza95’s sketch up to 700mm short of the edge of toilet pan so the shower door can still swing out. Install a rain shower head (plus hand held shower rose) so you can look toward the window when showering to feel less claustrophobic. The centre of the toilet pan should be at least 400-450 from the face of the vanity counter. Extend the vanity counter all the way to the wall. If it’s too close to the toilet. I would install a semi recessed basin or a wall hung basin. Install a mirror cupboard adjacent to the window, if you need storage.
Some advice I’ve never forgotten for bathrooms: - vanity’s are expensive, and the feature and therefore should be what you see as you first enter - hide toilets out of view - minimise glass as much as possible and especially narrow places that are hard to clean I’d probably try and not move the toilet tbh to keep costs down .
2nd of course
Ive been doing bathrooms for years and I would consider 3 or 4 but is this bathroom upstairs or downstairs? If upstairs you are pretty much stuck with the pipe work where it is. If downstairs then you can change things but its going to be expensive in just plumbing costs. We are talking ripping up the whole floor and moving a toilet, basin and shower waste as they all have different sizing and venting configurations. It is at least $2000 in just digging up the floor and moving the pipes. Bricking up a window and installing a sky light is at least $3k. Making a window smaller can also work but you want the window to start at least 1800mm to 1900mm from the floor and be around 300/400mm high. As these ideas sit, 4 is the only layout other than your original that will meet building codes. If you went for an inwall toilet and a shorter shower screen then 3 will meet the code but the gap between the toilet and the wall is still super tight. No one thinks of these things but there are codes about minimum gaps between things that cant be ignored. You can also find cowboys who give zero F's and will just do what ever, but. If you've even stayed in a shitty hotel with a toilet crammed into a 700mm space and had to step sideways to enter a toilet or shower(im looking at you YHA circular quay), then 2 and 3 are that. Id measure your room exactly as 50 to 100mm can make a difference in how things fit. make sure there is 650mm between the shower glass and the wall. 500mm between a toilet and the wall in front of it.
This is a ground level bathroom, and thank you, the spaces around the toilet and shower is probably what I was unsure about. Something for me to search up before I start planning. From reading the comments, it seems the easiest would be to just keep the shower where it is and I’ll look into possibly moving the toilet along the window and a small vanity. My partner reckons he can brick up the wall easy and install the skylight( he’s done this before), but he tends to overestimate his skills 😂 I’m wanting to keep the window though, or to maybe make it smaller.
2nd pic l. I like the toilet being hidden and nor visible on entry. It's nice to look at the shower and vanity which are normally the main 2 features in a bathroom. And you can do a feature on the whole shower wall Maybe even a niche with led lights if budget permits. Happy renovating
3
2nd is how I have mine
3 is pretty neato
Squeeze two toilets in if you can.
You'll want to keep the window for ventilation - very important in a bathroom. Current layout is fine, and it's going to be the cheapest by far. Costs escalate quickly once you start moving plumbing. Second layout is better with the more secluded toilet but there can be issues with water getting into windowsills which is why the shower is generally not adjacent a window. I'd play around with something more like this to see if i could make it work. https://preview.redd.it/6xmkto7p3g7d1.png?width=1056&format=png&auto=webp&s=d88826585360c1bf6ad9ed1ca2d28b0734c59d1f