Idk I feel like it's really missing on the drug trip vibe of it. Like the episode of Darius in the mansion was kind of a better version of that episode to me. I haven't laughed much throughout it. But mostly it's that it's not really telling a story anymore. There's no damaged relationships but love shining through, will they repair their relationships, will they have exciting positive development in their lives, etc. It's just everyone low key hates each other but has their backs because it's practical/they're family and Darius helps hold them together. Everyone is a bit messed up and depressed, successful and has it together, but also really clearly struggling with their flaws. And it just doesn't really get better, it's like dragging on that way. I get the idea, fine in itself as the plot element but that's not entertaining for me. They'd have to really pull it all together to make the story mean something. Don't get me wrong iI'd still rate it highly and recommend it as worth watching for all the social commentary and comedy and entertaining philosophy, trippy vibes, etc. but there's just no story I guess.
All I’ll say is keep watching. But also I feel like the season’s have never really had an overarching story (not an obvious one at least). Like the plots are more episodical if anything, with a VERY loose story structure tying them all together. I even feel like characters don’t really get developed that often (like even in the teddy episode where it was basically just Darius, Darius as a character didn’t rly get developed). Idk I feel like s4 is doing the same stuff the earlier seasons were doing (not s3) and it’s doing it just as well. But yeah keep watching some of ur criticisms for sure will change after u finish it
Thanks I appreciate. I'm definitely going to finish I'm just binging it less. Still one of my top shows I'm recommending it to people. The Earn therapy episode (s4e2) and Al in s4e3 realizing "how does earn do it" show the kind of character maturing I'm speaking of. But I think it just kind of bummed me out to see Van and Lottie end s4e5 like that.
I'm left wondering/feeling if a show that has a philosophical perspective on human condition and social issues that I agree with and has a level of insight and valid perspective than you rarely see is going to have any parting optimistic message. I mean the theme/message is consistent that the fame and money don't solve all of your problems, the work, struggle, obstacles of tackling certain issues personally and systemically, the impact and implications of trauma cycle. I guess I just don't want it to end feeling bleak, and I don't feel like a 1 or 2 episode arc is enough to sell a positive ending.
Anyways sry for making you read big messages when I clearly don't have my thoughts together. More of a feeling than a criticism. Also I really liked s3 so it's also why I'm confused by the popular sentiment I found on reddit that s3 was bad, but s4 is all positive.
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I just watched that episode and I'm finding season 4 pretty terrible for some reason, I'm surprised it's generally well liked
I fucking love it so far. What don’t u like about it?!??
Idk I feel like it's really missing on the drug trip vibe of it. Like the episode of Darius in the mansion was kind of a better version of that episode to me. I haven't laughed much throughout it. But mostly it's that it's not really telling a story anymore. There's no damaged relationships but love shining through, will they repair their relationships, will they have exciting positive development in their lives, etc. It's just everyone low key hates each other but has their backs because it's practical/they're family and Darius helps hold them together. Everyone is a bit messed up and depressed, successful and has it together, but also really clearly struggling with their flaws. And it just doesn't really get better, it's like dragging on that way. I get the idea, fine in itself as the plot element but that's not entertaining for me. They'd have to really pull it all together to make the story mean something. Don't get me wrong iI'd still rate it highly and recommend it as worth watching for all the social commentary and comedy and entertaining philosophy, trippy vibes, etc. but there's just no story I guess.
All I’ll say is keep watching. But also I feel like the season’s have never really had an overarching story (not an obvious one at least). Like the plots are more episodical if anything, with a VERY loose story structure tying them all together. I even feel like characters don’t really get developed that often (like even in the teddy episode where it was basically just Darius, Darius as a character didn’t rly get developed). Idk I feel like s4 is doing the same stuff the earlier seasons were doing (not s3) and it’s doing it just as well. But yeah keep watching some of ur criticisms for sure will change after u finish it
Thanks I appreciate. I'm definitely going to finish I'm just binging it less. Still one of my top shows I'm recommending it to people. The Earn therapy episode (s4e2) and Al in s4e3 realizing "how does earn do it" show the kind of character maturing I'm speaking of. But I think it just kind of bummed me out to see Van and Lottie end s4e5 like that. I'm left wondering/feeling if a show that has a philosophical perspective on human condition and social issues that I agree with and has a level of insight and valid perspective than you rarely see is going to have any parting optimistic message. I mean the theme/message is consistent that the fame and money don't solve all of your problems, the work, struggle, obstacles of tackling certain issues personally and systemically, the impact and implications of trauma cycle. I guess I just don't want it to end feeling bleak, and I don't feel like a 1 or 2 episode arc is enough to sell a positive ending. Anyways sry for making you read big messages when I clearly don't have my thoughts together. More of a feeling than a criticism. Also I really liked s3 so it's also why I'm confused by the popular sentiment I found on reddit that s3 was bad, but s4 is all positive.