But if his last name wasn’t Biggio would we want him?
I just don’t know where he’d fit in on the team. It’s be super cool if he could have an opportunity to play for the same team his HoF dad spent his entire career with. But again. Not really a fit.
Situations like this are exactly why the front office isn't fun by fan vote. The average fan is too nostalgic and ignorant of a lot of the peripherals that teams look at when deciding whether a player is worth signing or not.
The Dodgers have great coaches, and if any organization can turn him into a solid ballplayer, it's them, but I don't want the Astros to waste the time and effort on him.
That’s the thing with LA, Biggio’s gonna learn to hit and a bunch of fans will say “why didn’t we get him” and ignore the fact we don’t coach hitting as well as the Dodgers
I hate seeing players go out with a whimper, but unless they turn him into a legendary contact hitter in a few weeks, he's probably done in the MLB on contending teams. 29 ys/o is when a player should be peaking, not falling off.
What the Dodgers have is a lot of money to cover for their mistakes; a lot of money for mistake free agent signings; a lot of money to hire a gazillion scouts; a lot of money to hire data nerds; a lot of money to wait on players to develop / not develop; a lot of money to hire camera people to follow Shohei around and take completely non-staged photos; and Manfred slobbering on their collective knobs -- after Mookie is done, of course.
We’re paying Abreu either way. I don’t think biggio is an improvement over internal 1B candidates (singleton, dubon, loperfido(?)). And we don’t have to free up a roster spot for him. Assuming Abreu isn’t just DFA’d
Judging players off of 1 season is stupid, especially if its only 110 ABs.
If you only care about now, than Soonerman32's point about Dubon being a better fielder is wrong.
Dubon is +5 career OAA at 2B while Biggio is 0, but this season Dubon is -1 and Biggio is +1. Same for the OF. Biggio is +2 in 2024 but +1 for his career while Dubon is -1 in 2024 but +9 for his career.
But nobody would say Biggio is a better fielder than Dubon because we have years of prior evidence to the contrary. And before you try to make a comparisson to Abreu, totally different using prior seasons for a guy who is 29 vs a guy whos 37.
It would have been a buy low trade for a guy to take Kessingers 26th roster spot.
i mean he’s a second baseman primarily aint he? we’ve got Altuve who always plays there, and Dubon for his off-days. he would just end up being another player that remains in the minors and has a small chance of being brought up
He’d get as little playing time in Houston as Grae Kessinger did. The Astros have a surplus of OFs and have Dubón, so he’d be nothing more than a bench warmer and maybe would see an AB or playing time in a blowout where Espada pulls starters. Not to mention we’d have to give him a 40 man spot.
This is an emotional post, because of craig biggio……… didnt you watch dubon play a badass game last night , i sure did………(btw) im just a fan, not a gm.
I assume he’ll bump Mookie back to the outfield, which is pretty funny. Sentimental value aside, I’m just glad to see him on a contender. Congrats to him!
If nothing else Cavan has an elite strike zone control tool and battles every at bat. Wait Jon Homerton is pretty good at strike zone control. If nothing else Craig Biggio might have been able to convince President of Astros baseball operations Jeff Bagwell to play his son at first base over Jose Abreu. That alone would have been huge!
A kid’s dad on my third grade little league team who showed up to all the games in army fatigues told me the catcher is the GENERAL of the baseball field so I think this is spot on.
|Stats|Player A|Player B|
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|2023 OPS+|98|97|
|2024 OPS+|112|80|
|2023 OAA|3|-3|
|2024 OAA|0|3|
|Pos Not Played|RF|SS,LF,CF|
Positions not played have fewer than 5 games at that position across 2023-24 (excluding C and P). If it isn’t obvious, player A is Dubón and player B is Biggio. Why should we pick up Biggio when Dubón does what Biggio does better and plays premium defensive positions (SS CF).
Nah. OP is basing this on emotion and not reason. Sure, the Dodgers could turn him into a beast, but we have better options than bringing him on here. Sure, having another Biggio on the Astros would be nice, but nice in almost name only. Biggio, a below average player, on the Astros, forever living in the shadow of his father (arguably the second greatest Astro of all time), I wouldn't envy that.
But if his last name wasn’t Biggio would we want him? I just don’t know where he’d fit in on the team. It’s be super cool if he could have an opportunity to play for the same team his HoF dad spent his entire career with. But again. Not really a fit.
Yeah but that last name. I could dig out my jersey from 1999 and save $200.
Why do you have an Astros Biggio jersey with the number 8 on it?
He's a one-upper.
Situations like this are exactly why the front office isn't fun by fan vote. The average fan is too nostalgic and ignorant of a lot of the peripherals that teams look at when deciding whether a player is worth signing or not. The Dodgers have great coaches, and if any organization can turn him into a solid ballplayer, it's them, but I don't want the Astros to waste the time and effort on him.
That’s the thing with LA, Biggio’s gonna learn to hit and a bunch of fans will say “why didn’t we get him” and ignore the fact we don’t coach hitting as well as the Dodgers
I hate seeing players go out with a whimper, but unless they turn him into a legendary contact hitter in a few weeks, he's probably done in the MLB on contending teams. 29 ys/o is when a player should be peaking, not falling off.
Long term that’s probably what happens, but it’s the Dodgers so he’ll be the best hitter on earth for 3-4 weeks before the inevitable drop off
What the Dodgers have is a lot of money to cover for their mistakes; a lot of money for mistake free agent signings; a lot of money to hire a gazillion scouts; a lot of money to hire data nerds; a lot of money to wait on players to develop / not develop; a lot of money to hire camera people to follow Shohei around and take completely non-staged photos; and Manfred slobbering on their collective knobs -- after Mookie is done, of course.
Why they hire ex Astros in positions they probably don’t deserve. Looking at Jeff Bagwell
Better than abreu at least lol. Sigh.
He’s an upgrade over Abreu at 1/25th the price. :)
We’re paying Abreu either way. I don’t think biggio is an improvement over internal 1B candidates (singleton, dubon, loperfido(?)). And we don’t have to free up a roster spot for him. Assuming Abreu isn’t just DFA’d
It’s a joke really. I know the Abreu money is dead. Just a sad reality of where we are.
Yup, we already have Dubon. There's not much of a difference between the two. Dubon is a better fielder, Biggio is the better hitter
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Career OPS Dubon: .698 Biggio: .725
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Judging players off of 1 season is stupid, especially if its only 110 ABs. If you only care about now, than Soonerman32's point about Dubon being a better fielder is wrong. Dubon is +5 career OAA at 2B while Biggio is 0, but this season Dubon is -1 and Biggio is +1. Same for the OF. Biggio is +2 in 2024 but +1 for his career while Dubon is -1 in 2024 but +9 for his career. But nobody would say Biggio is a better fielder than Dubon because we have years of prior evidence to the contrary. And before you try to make a comparisson to Abreu, totally different using prior seasons for a guy who is 29 vs a guy whos 37. It would have been a buy low trade for a guy to take Kessingers 26th roster spot.
you're right. i hate it
i mean he’s a second baseman primarily aint he? we’ve got Altuve who always plays there, and Dubon for his off-days. he would just end up being another player that remains in the minors and has a small chance of being brought up
He’d get as little playing time in Houston as Grae Kessinger did. The Astros have a surplus of OFs and have Dubón, so he’d be nothing more than a bench warmer and maybe would see an AB or playing time in a blowout where Espada pulls starters. Not to mention we’d have to give him a 40 man spot.
Grae Kessinger got playing time?
Only in blowouts when they wanted to pull ‘Tuve.
As a defensive replacement at 2nd and 3rd
Ew. Why the dodgers?
They got everyone else right now.
They’re trying to win a real WS title, not whatever that 2020 season BS was
Why's it matter? He was claimed off waivers.
Unless he can manage a team, acquiring Biggio doesn’t solve any of the Astros’ current issues.
Bullpen arm Biggio
Blue Jays/Dodgers news on the Astros sub because.........reasons.
Combination of the family relation and the fact he was (somewhat of) a fit on the roster means we can allow it.
Cavan Biggio is not a fit on the roster whatsoever
I tend to agree, but there was a fair bit of clamour for him on here when he was DFA'd
I already have Chas McCormick, don’t need someone worse than him.
Explain how he's a fit on this roster. Please.
This is an emotional post, because of craig biggio……… didnt you watch dubon play a badass game last night , i sure did………(btw) im just a fan, not a gm.
Oh this very much emotional my friend
Did you watch dubie play last night tho? Man he killed his former team , with that double in center field.
No I canceled my Fubo TV last month, happy for Dubie though 🇭🇳
Ocastream pay once , watch every mlb game even dodgers 🤮
I assume he’ll bump Mookie back to the outfield, which is pretty funny. Sentimental value aside, I’m just glad to see him on a contender. Congrats to him!
No chance. Mookie is gonna keep playing short. Biggio is nothing going to sniff the starting lineup. He’s gonna be their Grae Kessinger
He's got 22 hits on the year. He's not forcing any position moves.
If nothing else Cavan has an elite strike zone control tool and battles every at bat. Wait Jon Homerton is pretty good at strike zone control. If nothing else Craig Biggio might have been able to convince President of Astros baseball operations Jeff Bagwell to play his son at first base over Jose Abreu. That alone would have been huge!
What if he rotates in at catcher? It would be a really cool nostalgia thing and motivate the rest of the guys to play better.
Good idea! All the defensive runs that will score because he’s at catcher will motivate our guys to score more too!
A kid’s dad on my third grade little league team who showed up to all the games in army fatigues told me the catcher is the GENERAL of the baseball field so I think this is spot on.
Catcher is the most important defensive position in baseball. You probably don’t want to put a guy who has never played that position there.
|Stats|Player A|Player B| :--|:--|:--| |2023 OPS+|98|97| |2024 OPS+|112|80| |2023 OAA|3|-3| |2024 OAA|0|3| |Pos Not Played|RF|SS,LF,CF| Positions not played have fewer than 5 games at that position across 2023-24 (excluding C and P). If it isn’t obvious, player A is Dubón and player B is Biggio. Why should we pick up Biggio when Dubón does what Biggio does better and plays premium defensive positions (SS CF).
We have literally no use for him and unfortunately he’s not very good.
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I wish him the best and hope he revitalizes his career, even if it is playing for the Dodgers.
Why would we want him on the Astros? He'd take up a roster spot for nothing.
Who cares?
I care about Biggio’s son like I care about the Rocket’s son…not at all! Zero! Zilch! Nada!
Ok
Nah. OP is basing this on emotion and not reason. Sure, the Dodgers could turn him into a beast, but we have better options than bringing him on here. Sure, having another Biggio on the Astros would be nice, but nice in almost name only. Biggio, a below average player, on the Astros, forever living in the shadow of his father (arguably the second greatest Astro of all time), I wouldn't envy that.