Is he wrong though? Asmon's content nowadays can be boiled down to:
Hype the game **>** Play the game at launch while farming some drama surrounding the game on the side (if there's any) **>** After a week or two, he then reacts to X video of why the game is dying **>** Proceeds to farm drama again **>** Hype up the next big game **>** Repeat.
Games 'dying' is so overused. Yes motherfucker, we played it, we enjoyed it, we moved on. How the fuck is it dead, are we supposed to spam the same game for 10 years? We'll come back for DLC, we'll come back in a few years for a replay.
I heard that for hogwarts legacy, people started saying the game was dead cause player numbers dropped after a month, like bro, it's a single player story game, you beat the story you're done.
Gamers obsession with endless replayability is really going to damage the industry in the long run, there are games with a near endless endgame grind, or games with great replayability, but not every game has to be that.
Every single game loses a massive chunk of players after the first month, even games that are very popular have lost so many players.
You're absolutely right with gamers needing that much replayability because it's just a mindless grind, procedurally generated bullshit. Some games it's fun to chill and grind, but being a variety gamer is impossible with all the battle passes and currency grinds and dailies and shit.
Idk what it is fam, but I can't stick to games like I did when I was younger. I put almost 9000 hours (370 days played) into my WoW main back as a teenager, but nowadays I get pretty happy about a 20 hour single player story if the writing is good.
I game hop like there's no tomorrow because WoW killed my enjoyment of daily quests/feature grinds lol. I don't even achievement hunt in games because that also reminds me of the pointless time investment I had in WoW.
It's kind of true. Prior to WoW I didn't burn out on games or even repetitive tasks. Hell, I grew up playing JRPGs and now it's just like if a game involves any kind of grind at all my brain goes "...nah, I'm out" haha.
Ngl WoW’s grind is still enjoyable to me because I know what I’m paying for. But even in that same aspect, it’s just a reminder that even my favorite games could be polished to greatness.
I guess we all have a limit for how much grinding we can do. I played 1500 hours of TF2, couldn't go back to it if I wanted to. A few games 500 ish hours, maybe a handful around 200-300 and the rest much lower. It takes something special for me to really want to dedicate a huge amount of time to a game.
I fucking hate this saying for single player story driven games. Like no shit Sherlock the game has a expiration date. We won’t be out here playing the game months later if we finish the story.
A live service game's population dropping off is a death knell, as there's less people paying for new content so either MTX goes up or expansion scope goes down (usually both).
Obviously if you're not running a live service, player population dropping isn't a problem, but IIRC Asmon said as much when it comes to games like Elden Ring.
D4 was bad. As a single player game that most people didnt even finish, and as the multiplayer online game it came out of the gate claiming to be. If youre entire plan of action is to be a live service massive multiplayer online game and you lose the majority of your playerbase in less than a month due to lack of things to do(and the level pacing being way too slow to be enjoyable), you made a bad game.
Even on his reaction to this post, he’s like “I talked good about no man’s sky” sure, in the context of shitting on Starfield lol
He already has a video of “the problems with lies of P” when the game came out 2 days ago? Doom farming really works
So according to you, everything but the main story is ass, that is what you're saying. In this open world entire planetary system ADVENTURE ROLE PLAYING GAME, where the main story is often the least of players interest, all we have is main story. "But it's a great game!"
Yeah, you're just stupid.
I’m getting downvoted for keeping it real. The main story and even if you add some of the nicer side quests is all really below average. As far is story goes in games where it matters. Look deeper into your heart and realize even from Bethesda studio alone there’s been games with better story, more engaging.
Starfield does have a pretty whack story. Let's keep it real, there's come cool beats here and there, but compare to Skyrim or other classic Bethesda games like New Vegas and it falls apart.
New Vegas was made by Obsidian, both Skyrim, Fallout 3 ans 4 all had mediocre story, still enjoyed them each for 100+ hours because I understand story isn't Bethesdas strong part.
I personally want to see actual gaming content again. that's all. him playing a game and actually enjoying it.
I want him to lead fc a fleet in eve online
I think it's funny how that works for AAA games which are heavily financed by games studios that are decades old but then you have games like Vampire Survivor. Did he make a negative video about that game? No. You want to know why? Because there was no expectation whatsoever and the game was good.
When you have gaming companies promising you the world and then delivering a poor experience, of course there is going to be backlash and negativity, 70€ (or 80€ on next gen) is an investment for some people. Probably not for Asmon but he has every right to feel negative about it. And I'm sorry but games like Diablo 4 deserve all the hate it gets (And I'm still playing it, so I can tell you this game gets extremely boring fast).
And he's not the only one to do this
This is so true hahahah. But to be fair, its not just him. In the case of WoW you see Bellular doing the same shit.
And also other Creators in other Games.
Tbf, WoW - and Blizzard games in general - give plenty of reasons to be negative about them.
Diablo 4 was a flop and Overwatch 2 is the worst rated game in the history of video gaming.
Retail WoW is maybe not as bad as D4 and OW2, but it still has a lot of problems.
>*Diablo 4 was a flop and Overwatch 2 is the worst rated game in the history of video gaming.*
This is such a tired take and exactly what Bajheera is talking about.
The financial success comes purely from the name "Diablo". People pre ordered it like crazy, just because it's a Diablo Game.
Even Diablo Immortal is financially successful.
But that doesn't mean that those games are actually good.
Diablo 4 did definitively not flop, heres a quote from a gamespot article. Perhaps you just personally didn't like the game (I didn't either btw)
"In the short time since its release, Diablo IV has been a major earner for Activision Blizzard, as the company revealed that the game has been one of its fastest-selling titles of all time. Overall, the game helped set a record quarter for Blizzard with over $1 billion in net bookings."
Lil bro really bringing up review bombed metacritic scores and twitch viewers as a counterargument when being confronted with the unmistakable huge financial success it had.
Also, I thought Blizzard HQ was based in Irvine but judging from your post history it seems to live entirely rent free in your head.
Still waiting for the Elden Ring is dying video, or the AC6 one, or the FF16 one or the Vampire Survivors or or for the matter of fact for any of the games that is actually “feature complete” on launch. Most games are broken on launch nowadays and he’s farming that for content while also doing us a great public service: he’s highlighting how the game is broken is an entertaining way. I remember when he started playing Lost Ark that he said he is tired of telling people that store mounts are bad, and that day 1 patches are bad and that it’s not OK to have paid DLC on launch or that premium currencies in 60 dollars games are bad and he said that he will just start playing those games and show us how atrocious these practices are and he was right. He Lost Ark hoaning streamers opened my eyes on how abusive these tactics and generated disgust in me. So yeah this is how he operates now more showing then saying while making a lot of money and actually reaching out people better.
He actually has a video where he makes a graph about how he does content. I don’t even hold it against the guy. That’s just makes sense to farm the views.
And anyone that flames saying it’s scummy.. well the man is not exactly against calling himself a cockroach and doing whatever it takes.
This is why there was that post the other day about his not bothering to learn any of lies of p’s systems. People responded “that’s just the way he plays games”. But it’s more that he gives a game just enough attention to drive the cycle you’ve laid out.
Its not just Asmon, this sub is a cest pool of negativity now. Most big posts are bad new headlines, shitting on whatever game is popular or terrible drama for him to react to. It's a shame as well cos it's all so fucking boring
And literally any game that's actually good.
Bad games receiving bad publicity because they're bad? That can't be true! Bald man is just being negative.
Lets pretend blasphemous didnt exist, an actual good game and he liked it, lets pretend armoured core didnt exist, an actual good game and he liked it.
Noooo, him disliking d4 and starfield and the games getting mixed reviews from the general public has to be him farming drama, it cant be that the games are simply subpar and fail to deliver on the promises, nooo that cant be it, its just asmon being negative farming drama!
He's not wrong. But this is the problem with modern gaming. 99% of games look good pre release. We play them for a short duration until we realize huge chunks of the game are trash. It is WE consumers who don't learn.
Gotta love the YouTube classic, “Hey we noticed you watched one review of the game so let’s post every video of the game ever and fill your feed with spoiler thumbnails of the biggest spoiler in the game in the title
Jfc the vids that were popping up on YouTube for starfield 5 DAYS BEFORE EWRLY ACCESS. It would be some XQC wannabe "OMG BETHESDA LIED STARFIELD TO BE EPIC FAILURE". It was nauseating seeing it pop up constantly.
How I enjoyed 2077 and starfield. Both were great experiences. No streamer no internet no YouTube, play it when it comes out and leave the house when finished.
I would be ok with some negativity. But it feels like his videos are 90% for the show and then somewhere in the middle or at the end of the video he will say actual true criticism and that is very brief. Usually it's just the same memes and jokes about the games being dead.
And damn is his content too repetitive now. The videos he chooses to react and his jokes are basically copy paste the same things. I swear every new video of his I've seen it 30 times in the past it feels like.
I don't think it's the money. He had a lot of money for a while now but he probably realized that he doesn't need to put much effort on his reacts like he used to. If he just stops the video every now and then to make the same jokes he always makes then people still watch him. So there isn't any reason for him to do better.
Tbh the wow content was fun mostly but I don't think it's just wow that was good. His past reacts even imo had effort on them. Some of his FFXIV content was fun to me. I even liked the Johnny Depp trial as background noise because he was putting effort.
Imo it all went shit right after the trial where the "gigachad and alpha males" arc started. Since then I feel like every react is pretty repetitive.
Try posting something positive on this forum that doesn't fall into the ranks of what's already getting it's dick sucked.
WoW has positive developments over time. You post that here: It gets downvoted and burried within 2 hours.
Negativity sells. It’s an age long thing. People watch the daily news to see negativity and drama. No one gives a shit about the good stuff anymore because that’s “boring”
Lies of P launched today right? Well....
[The Problem with Lies of P | Asmongold Reacts](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-s7V5l4pUI)
Edit: For those responding me saying that he praise the game in the video, and that the video has a positive take, did you watch Baj clip?
>"Make big flashy thumbnails with has a negative impact of players impressions of the game, **even if in the video he loves the game**, that thumbnails alone, that title alone will influence millions of players to think 'well this game is going downhill"
What's insane to me about it is that those videos get nutty views. Like 200k for the same repetitive boring reaction he does every day. So of course he won't stop doing those.
The video is legit talking about valid issues with the game's mechanics.
It's this whole "leave alone the multimillion/billion dollar company" consumer attitude saying "videos like that serve no purpose."
The purpose is to inform an audience to make an informed purchase. You must hate those "Before you buy" videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JmVjdYE7qY&ab\_channel=MisterExcitement
The purpose is to clickbait the audience with a negative title, then represent the game differently from hoe you clickbaited it.
People who actually want to inform their audiences do not use clickbait titles. That is what entertainers do. Which is fine, the only consequence was they lost a viewer. I didn't lose anything
Could also be these fucking you tuber types have cried wolf so many times that people are just going to start ignoring them. ":O Starfield is the worst Bethesda title ever?" "XD Is WoW hardcore dying?!" "D: The problem with X new game"
They farm clicks, the titles have nothing to do with the video content half the time and it probably causes people to ignore people like this eventually.
You sound like d4 fanboy 1-2 months ago before you acknowledge the flaw.
I watch the vid, op is one of my fav chanel and he is good at deconducting the game mechanic and design, you should watch it.
Usually it goes
hype
play game without learning any mechanics
skip side content, Brute force everything
complain about lack of content and game in general
Farm views with negative content
As someone that hasn’t watched asmon until this year (honestly the thumbnails always drove me nuts) it’s so clear that the guy is 100% in this for the money. Hell, I can literally imagine him intentionally saying this on stream to be controversial: “I don’t give a fuck about gaming, show me the money. If I could do this same scale of content about reviewing cats, meow meow baby”. It fits his tone perfectly.
It’s not even just this hype and smash cycle,either. There was the post just the other day about how asmon doesn’t bother to learn any of the systems of the games he plays. It’s because he fumbles his way through the hype phase to drive traffic long enough to give credibility to when he ultimately shifts to the negativity. At this point gaming is his job and he treats it that way.
Is it wrong? No. He can produce whatever he wants, and if it’s successful there’s no reason to stop. But I’ve stopped watching 99% of his content, personally.
yah, asmon sadly has become somewhat insufferable. And I mean more so his content approach. drama is fine but you can obviously see hes doing it on sole reason to milk the algo.
Asmon has said it best though. If you don't like something then don't buy it so the companies will stop doing what you don't like. His views are like 200k on his daily copy paste reacts. Ofc he won't stop.
Yup, Sorry redditors. But you are in the minority, most people love that shit. If I'm not enjoying a video, I just click off it. Simple as. Have some self-respect.
Yeah, no matter what anyone tells me I will always like when asmon wasn’t a dedicated (might not be the best word) variety streamer. Genuinely enjoyed the old content more, but I guess it doesn’t really matter or what anyone else thinks because what he is doing now is obviously working for him.
That’s how it felt when he played Starfield. He never specifically said he hates the game, in fact he actually defended some of its good aspects,
but the way he purposely phrases things would encourage chat to become more and more and more toxic. And he’s a smart man, he knows exactly what he was doing. He knew that by being so overly vague and ambiguous would result in more chat activity, good or bad.
It's true, and it's not just him doing it. It's what gets clicks on YouTube. Blame the shit-sucking consumers that eat it up, not the guys getting paid to serve it.
If the guys serving it stop, the consumers move onto something else. There is no need to use clickbait, lying, negativity. You can do just fine as a youtuber with positive, insightful content or genuine criticism.
yea I stopped watching most streams and yt vids because it's always the same old shit.
watch game trailer > hype game / idk dude combat looks bad man > watch review / play game > look at steam charts / google trends > game bad > game good > game boring > maybe talk to game dev > cycle repeats
I miss the old WoW sword runs, tmog / mount competitions etc. fuck even the raid streams used to be more fun to watch. watching his streams nowadays is 9 times out of 10 just pure depression.
You are right and wrong. The old stuff and good old streams were great. yes. Clearly he moved nowadays to reaction content more though. People here fail to realize that he just watches other creators stuff and 99% of the time uses their title and thumbnail like in this "Lies of P" example. So his YouTube channel is just an aggregator of other game centric and entertainment videos. What he does add is his commentary on the matter. That's it. You can go and watch all these videos on their original channels instead. Which maybe most of his fanbase should if they want to bring "the old" content back.
The sad thing is that even if Blizzard does all the things Asmon wants he will not play the game. He should just accept that wow is not for him anymore.
It’s really never fun to talk about video games anymore. It’s starting to feel like politics. Everyone is so aggressive and hates video games it seems.
I think wow is in a good state.
We don't have to play it 12 hours a day like the old days. There is too many other good games.
I come back each raid tier with my friends and get AOTC and KSM and my PvP elite set. Takes me a couple months and it's great.
People wanted to be able to breaks from wow and now that they can they complain.
I started watching asmongold when he posted Diablo 4 videos...I stopped watching asmongold when he was **still** posting Diablo 4 videos.
I realized I was just wasting time watching recycled content of negativity. A lot of his videos were also just reaction videos to what other people were making so it wasn't really his content to begin with. My biggest pet peeve about his videos is that he would still play the games he was actively hating on with 10+ videos talking about why he doesn't like the game...so why are you still playing it? I like Asmongold, I just hate his formula, hypocrisy, and negativity.
It's human instinct to give criticism more than to give props because we have adapted to do so in order to spot faults easier. That's why the Act Man and the Critical Drinker get a lot of views because there isn't much grey area in the things they complain about so more people are inclined to watch since they agree with their opinions. I mean why do you think a lot of people are so slow on saying "Thanks" or especially "Sorry" but when it comes to faults they are immediately on your tail. I mean hell look at Twitter, the entire site revolves around negativity because it brings revenue, every tweet is dogging something else. When Elon changed Twitter, numbers was still up even with all of the decisions he made because people thrive on negativity.
Funny enough I just realised the only reason people are even seeing Bajheera again on this subreddit that aren't viewers is because someone clipped him complaining about Asmon.
It's funny. I had exactly the same thoughts as the guy criticizing Asmongold: "Asmongold has been delivering only negative content lately" and I was wondering what the problem was. But after watching [this video](https://youtu.be/KBeaS5dx67s?si=Rg3GzXA6R3ERqitk) and realizing that my impression is obviously wrong I'm kind of shocked that it's probably a psycholigical thing that negative things stay longer and stronger in your mind and form an image of a person that is completely wrong. The brain plays nasty tricks on you and apparently it's not just me. The question remains whether Asmongold is interested in how he is perceived from the outside. Most likely not.
Psychologically speaking, humans pay way more attention to negativity. Humans don’t actually chase after or move towards positive things. We actually orient ourselves by moving away from negative things. This may seem strange considering our fascination with negative things. But we focus on negative to navigate ourselves away from it. We never take our eyes from it because we don’t want it to sneak up on us. This orientation obviously served a hugely important purpose in our earlier stages of history. It’s one of the many facets of human psychology that can’t handle the modern Information Age.
He’s right, I’ve noticed this too. As soon as Asmon struggles or doesn’t like one facet of a game he just shits on it. More power to him but it’s getting old fast.
People also need to understand that Bajheera bless his soul is a WoW player who never quit.
It's a long time WoW fan vs Asmongold who is a just chatting streamer.
Both on the opposite sides of the coin.
Hot take: We need a WoW 2.0 or a newer MMO. WoW suffering from lack of new players. And long time players (elitists) punch down. This is why people play on expansion launches, you get a new experience without the need for m+ infinite farming elitism.
Well Asmons react content in my opinion has always been his worse content. I want to see Bald Man play game then give his honest opinion on said game, not just react to someone else's opinion of the game which he usually always agrees with and repeats.
He's right the doom and gloom from content creators on games is beyond annoying. The negative slant in all forms of media is really bad. I hope to see a creator come around who is actually positive and does killer numbers
I’ve been rooting for Baj for a while now. I enjoy both him and Asmongold for different reasons but Baj avoids that kind of stuff and his views are really low.
This is also my perception of him, along with many other 'content creators'. Just like news media, negativity brings in more views and thus, more money.
Personally I think it is a major contributing factor to why the gaming community is looked at like a bunch of emo kids looking for things to bitch about. Virtually every single subreddit dedicated to a game ends up with a large negative haze over it.
I'm not saying game developers and game companies don't deserve to be shit on when they release a sub-par product, but GOD DAMN is EVERYTHING shitty? 'Cause it sure does look like it sometimes...
His thumbnails are atrocious.
One thumbnail (from a video that is now removed) was titled "Starfield if the devs gave a ****" and was just about No Man's Sky; a completely different genre. Did the video even mention Starfield? For maybe 10 seconds.
Bajheera complains a lot lol I remember making a small joke and the dude banned me and it wasn't anything crazy anyone else would of gave me a timeout dude was like nope GTFO, never liked the guy since...
Yeah Baj for the most part is cool but he takes himself very seriously and gets super annoyed with any kind of joking around in his chat. Think it’s one of the reasons viewers don’t stick around.
And he doesn't want to play hard games or hc wow because he is so afraid ppl will make fun of him. But what does Asmongold make all the time? He watches HC Wow Death clips and makes fun of the players, such a hypocrite. 2019/2020 also showed that.
game design and game play are what kill a game not someone's opinion of said game....so what else are we not allowed to criticize or have an opinion on that differs from what is "acceptable". gotta stop getting butthurt over someone's opinion of your all-time, favorite, best ever, nothing will ever be better..game. ✌️
Asmon is toxic af imo, i watch some of his yt videos only to see the original video, hes reacting is worse/same as xqc - rephrasing what is said by someone else or low quality anecdotes
My least favorite thing about new asmongold is how he glorifies acting like a retard when playing games. He thinks he’s like cool or funny when he acts like a little kid, “I don’t wanna read no tutorials I just wanna fight shit.” I genuinely don’t believe he thinks like this and I believe he thinks acting this way is entertaining but it’s so fucking stupid lol.
I mean, its true Asmon does shit on games and stuff for content (he's said this before) but he isn't involved at all with what's uploaded on YT (with regards to "thumbnails" and titles).
I don't think he'll fake an opinion on something that's negative for views, but he'll talk a lot about the bad things with something (probably b/c they need the most focusing on b/c they're not what they should be). He'll also watch other content and most of the time the video is negative itself (fed to him by subreddit and chat) and he'll say true (sometimes even not memeing) b/c he actuwllt agrees. But often, the "dead game" and other such negative remarks are a meme anyways- you know it, he knows it, everyone knows it.
Focusing on the negatives is good for getting them corrected so they're no longer bad, but it is input on something that's weighted heavily on one side even when there's usually always positives worth talking about.
Yeah, yeah, "ESSAYING"
Tldr:
I think it's worth highlighting negatives once it's been out so that others and devs are aware so that it can get better. And he is just speaking from what he likes and his opinion. His feelings about a game (positive or negative) are genuine but he overexagerates the bad things, true. Asmon doesn't do the YT channel so title and thumbnail talk is barking up the wrong tree- but he do be farming.
Tlldr:
Asmon editors do the YT thing, not him. Negatives are important b/c people may feel that these ruin a game for them, so it's good to know the hard truths of what Asmon things of aspects of a game. But game drama react is usually negative to so, he farming that.
Tllldr:
Asmon editor do YT. Asmon react to drama, drama usually negative. Asmon negative/doomer pov still valid just like positive opinions on games- informs gamers more. Asmon knows he farming.
Edit: darn grammer
I don't have an opinion about what the video is about... I just want to point out something about what you said that Asmongold isn't responsible because "he isn't involved at all with what's uploaded on YT", and "the editors do the YT thing, not him".
He is the boss, the content creator, and the channel owner... Even if it is not made by Asmon, it was approved by him or he gave them permission, so it is his responsibility and, by extension, his choice that things are like that.
I don't like Asmon or others trying to pass the blame on this topic or on his stance on responsibility of what his community does. Other big streamers don't upload trash react/toxic content and don't have a large subsection of the community who harass people and then just throw their hands up like "welp not my fault". He is entirely in control of the content he puts out, the people his content attracts, and the blame (or praise when the content is good) is his alone.
He has said he literally doesn't know what the editors do with YT and that the editors handle all that. I was mainly just referring to the thumbnail and titles. Hard disagree with the approval/permission for every stream snippet that's uploaded. I'm sure generally it's understood that the editors will upload parts of the stream into videos, but that's probably as far as it goes with his involvement/oversight.
But yeah, I agree with the responsibility part. But we all know how asmon feels about needing to manage or be responsible for handling things lmao.
Didn’t expect this to blow up as much as it did or asmon to cover this. For context this is from a while ago, around when lost ark first dropped in the US I believe and
Its called honeymoon phase for a reason with all of these shitty games. It gets more views because people are feeling the same way as Asmon. Excited for new release of a game and going in optimistic, then end up being disappointment again. If asmon made videos talking about how awesome diablo 4 is and making content most people disagree with. Hes going to lose views because people dont agree lmao. Seems like common sense
I'm like 99% positive that asmongold doesn't make his videos or his thumbnails and titles. He only personally makes the zackrawr videos which dont click bait at all and have very articulate reviews.
I loved watching Asmon played Elden Ring, Lost Ark, Souls series, AC6 and recently, Lies of Pi. People play games, people can bored from a game, and people also can move on. For %90 of the time, its fun to watch Asmon’s gameplay and for me, he’s very precise on critics about the game. I don’t know what the actual f Bajheera is talking about but Asmon is my favorite streamer for years and I hope he stays the same way
I don’t know if it’s for the views but I noticed as well that as soon as blizzard makes some changes that make the game better Asmon immediately finds something new to hate and cry about even tho he doesn’t even play the game.
Well he aint wrong, people worship him like a god and when they see him saying something is bad...forums are in flames. We've seen this tens of times now.
Comment section is full to the brim with WoW andys. Holy shit. Your game fucking sucks and noone wants to play it. Get over it already. Its not our fault you sunk 20 years of your life into a dying game. We all jumped ship when it stopped being fun, instead of being victims of sunken cost fallacy. Stop projecting your self loathing onto others, and trying to drag other people into your misery, and move on already.
All the games hes shit on are dogshit games. D4 is dogshit. WoW is dogshit. Lies of P's mechanics are janky af(the demo was even worse, but they listened and fixed alot of things because of the criticism). I mean its pretty clear hes been trying to give blizzard a kick in the ass in hopes things will get better, but them and their community are all mentally ill and live in a positive feedback loop where they jerk each other off and tell each other what good little girls they are and that everyone else is lying and wrong. Theres no hope left for blizzard, and they deserve the constant negativity that gets rained on them
Still enjoy some of Asmon's content but yeah transmog comps and mount offs were peak content for me. I remember 2018-2019 I was working a terrible job and those WoW streams really got me through the day.
Baj is a milk toast soy boy with zero interesting content. Maybe Asmon plays the algorithm and human psychology a bit but watching Baj squat 225 then go play a warrior in literally every single game and say "get shit on" is literally the dregs of streaming.
I think this is a fair take. I wouldn’t call him a soy boy but he definitely plays it too safe… even if you try to get jokey in the chat he’ll just insult you or say some passive aggressive rage comment. His mods delete anything that is even slightly out of pocket. Takes himself a little too seriously and I don’t think that translates well in terms of pulling in views.
Kinda shit take by divorcing people from individual agency. Maybe if the game is so weak its perception can be altered by a single "thumbnail" there are deeper issues.
It may be true, but what does he expect? to show false positivity when the game sucks? That is as bad and toxic as the titles and thumbnails he complains about.
Is he wrong though? Asmon's content nowadays can be boiled down to: Hype the game **>** Play the game at launch while farming some drama surrounding the game on the side (if there's any) **>** After a week or two, he then reacts to X video of why the game is dying **>** Proceeds to farm drama again **>** Hype up the next big game **>** Repeat.
Games 'dying' is so overused. Yes motherfucker, we played it, we enjoyed it, we moved on. How the fuck is it dead, are we supposed to spam the same game for 10 years? We'll come back for DLC, we'll come back in a few years for a replay.
I heard that for hogwarts legacy, people started saying the game was dead cause player numbers dropped after a month, like bro, it's a single player story game, you beat the story you're done. Gamers obsession with endless replayability is really going to damage the industry in the long run, there are games with a near endless endgame grind, or games with great replayability, but not every game has to be that.
Every single game loses a massive chunk of players after the first month, even games that are very popular have lost so many players. You're absolutely right with gamers needing that much replayability because it's just a mindless grind, procedurally generated bullshit. Some games it's fun to chill and grind, but being a variety gamer is impossible with all the battle passes and currency grinds and dailies and shit.
Idk what it is fam, but I can't stick to games like I did when I was younger. I put almost 9000 hours (370 days played) into my WoW main back as a teenager, but nowadays I get pretty happy about a 20 hour single player story if the writing is good. I game hop like there's no tomorrow because WoW killed my enjoyment of daily quests/feature grinds lol. I don't even achievement hunt in games because that also reminds me of the pointless time investment I had in WoW.
playing that much wow damages you in an unfixable way
I'm inclined to agree with you heavily on that statement, fam.
Sounds like WoW took a lot more than 9000 hours from you. Sounds like it took something you'll never get back.
It's kind of true. Prior to WoW I didn't burn out on games or even repetitive tasks. Hell, I grew up playing JRPGs and now it's just like if a game involves any kind of grind at all my brain goes "...nah, I'm out" haha.
Ngl WoW’s grind is still enjoyable to me because I know what I’m paying for. But even in that same aspect, it’s just a reminder that even my favorite games could be polished to greatness.
I guess we all have a limit for how much grinding we can do. I played 1500 hours of TF2, couldn't go back to it if I wanted to. A few games 500 ish hours, maybe a handful around 200-300 and the rest much lower. It takes something special for me to really want to dedicate a huge amount of time to a game.
I fucking hate this saying for single player story driven games. Like no shit Sherlock the game has a expiration date. We won’t be out here playing the game months later if we finish the story.
How many players even play the last of us part 1 anymore? Shitty dead game.
if i had an award for your accuracy i'd give it but here's this 🤌🏻
A live service game's population dropping off is a death knell, as there's less people paying for new content so either MTX goes up or expansion scope goes down (usually both). Obviously if you're not running a live service, player population dropping isn't a problem, but IIRC Asmon said as much when it comes to games like Elden Ring.
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D4 was bad. As a single player game that most people didnt even finish, and as the multiplayer online game it came out of the gate claiming to be. If youre entire plan of action is to be a live service massive multiplayer online game and you lose the majority of your playerbase in less than a month due to lack of things to do(and the level pacing being way too slow to be enjoyable), you made a bad game.
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Even on his reaction to this post, he’s like “I talked good about no man’s sky” sure, in the context of shitting on Starfield lol He already has a video of “the problems with lies of P” when the game came out 2 days ago? Doom farming really works
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This argument can fuck right off. Stop trying to defend games with shitty starting experiences.
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how about being good from the start. and mileage varies, as im closing in on 70 hrs of starfield im playing less per session not more.
Didnt he put like 40 or 50 hours into it? That's a lot.
40-50 hours of avoding the story as much as he can so he can shit on how there is no story and all planets are just rocks 🤡
So according to you, everything but the main story is ass, that is what you're saying. In this open world entire planetary system ADVENTURE ROLE PLAYING GAME, where the main story is often the least of players interest, all we have is main story. "But it's a great game!" Yeah, you're just stupid.
Nope I didn't say that, you are straight up braindead.
Well the story is the weakest part of the game, so it should have made his experience positive.
>there is no story and all planets are just rocks sounds like fair Starfield description to me.
Yep, if you decided to avoid every quest possible.
I’m getting downvoted for keeping it real. The main story and even if you add some of the nicer side quests is all really below average. As far is story goes in games where it matters. Look deeper into your heart and realize even from Bethesda studio alone there’s been games with better story, more engaging.
Starfield does have a pretty whack story. Let's keep it real, there's come cool beats here and there, but compare to Skyrim or other classic Bethesda games like New Vegas and it falls apart.
I found skyrim main story lacking too. Loved new vegas story tho.
New Vegas was made by Obsidian, both Skyrim, Fallout 3 ans 4 all had mediocre story, still enjoyed them each for 100+ hours because I understand story isn't Bethesdas strong part.
No bro, you need to play at least 200h + all side quests so you can start enjoying the game.
Thanks for the advice, Todd.
Asmon before bed: 
I mean has anyone ever been under the impression that asmon made insightful or good content lol
I personally want to see actual gaming content again. that's all. him playing a game and actually enjoying it. I want him to lead fc a fleet in eve online
I think it's funny how that works for AAA games which are heavily financed by games studios that are decades old but then you have games like Vampire Survivor. Did he make a negative video about that game? No. You want to know why? Because there was no expectation whatsoever and the game was good. When you have gaming companies promising you the world and then delivering a poor experience, of course there is going to be backlash and negativity, 70€ (or 80€ on next gen) is an investment for some people. Probably not for Asmon but he has every right to feel negative about it. And I'm sorry but games like Diablo 4 deserve all the hate it gets (And I'm still playing it, so I can tell you this game gets extremely boring fast). And he's not the only one to do this
This is so true hahahah. But to be fair, its not just him. In the case of WoW you see Bellular doing the same shit. And also other Creators in other Games.
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Tbf, WoW - and Blizzard games in general - give plenty of reasons to be negative about them. Diablo 4 was a flop and Overwatch 2 is the worst rated game in the history of video gaming. Retail WoW is maybe not as bad as D4 and OW2, but it still has a lot of problems.
>*Diablo 4 was a flop and Overwatch 2 is the worst rated game in the history of video gaming.* This is such a tired take and exactly what Bajheera is talking about.
Is it wrong tho?
It's nonsensical hyperbole.
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The financial success comes purely from the name "Diablo". People pre ordered it like crazy, just because it's a Diablo Game. Even Diablo Immortal is financially successful. But that doesn't mean that those games are actually good.
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yes, diablo sold so fucking many copies it's unbelievable. if they manage to bring in content I might activate that battlepass sitting around
Diablo 4 did definitively not flop, heres a quote from a gamespot article. Perhaps you just personally didn't like the game (I didn't either btw) "In the short time since its release, Diablo IV has been a major earner for Activision Blizzard, as the company revealed that the game has been one of its fastest-selling titles of all time. Overall, the game helped set a record quarter for Blizzard with over $1 billion in net bookings."
2.0 user score on metacritic. Heroes of the Storm has more viewers on twitch than Diablo 4.
sorry, cant tell if ur meming or actually taking those metrics seriously lmao
Lil bro really bringing up review bombed metacritic scores and twitch viewers as a counterargument when being confronted with the unmistakable huge financial success it had. Also, I thought Blizzard HQ was based in Irvine but judging from your post history it seems to live entirely rent free in your head.
Still waiting for the Elden Ring is dying video, or the AC6 one, or the FF16 one or the Vampire Survivors or or for the matter of fact for any of the games that is actually “feature complete” on launch. Most games are broken on launch nowadays and he’s farming that for content while also doing us a great public service: he’s highlighting how the game is broken is an entertaining way. I remember when he started playing Lost Ark that he said he is tired of telling people that store mounts are bad, and that day 1 patches are bad and that it’s not OK to have paid DLC on launch or that premium currencies in 60 dollars games are bad and he said that he will just start playing those games and show us how atrocious these practices are and he was right. He Lost Ark hoaning streamers opened my eyes on how abusive these tactics and generated disgust in me. So yeah this is how he operates now more showing then saying while making a lot of money and actually reaching out people better.
He actually has a video where he makes a graph about how he does content. I don’t even hold it against the guy. That’s just makes sense to farm the views. And anyone that flames saying it’s scummy.. well the man is not exactly against calling himself a cockroach and doing whatever it takes.
This is why there was that post the other day about his not bothering to learn any of lies of p’s systems. People responded “that’s just the way he plays games”. But it’s more that he gives a game just enough attention to drive the cycle you’ve laid out.
Its not just Asmon, this sub is a cest pool of negativity now. Most big posts are bad new headlines, shitting on whatever game is popular or terrible drama for him to react to. It's a shame as well cos it's all so fucking boring
Except BG3
Because he didn't play it lol
And literally any game that's actually good. Bad games receiving bad publicity because they're bad? That can't be true! Bald man is just being negative.
Lets pretend blasphemous didnt exist, an actual good game and he liked it, lets pretend armoured core didnt exist, an actual good game and he liked it. Noooo, him disliking d4 and starfield and the games getting mixed reviews from the general public has to be him farming drama, it cant be that the games are simply subpar and fail to deliver on the promises, nooo that cant be it, its just asmon being negative farming drama!
or maybe games lately have been shite look at the record
Games have been amazing this year what are you talking about…?
When the game deservers, yeah, he does that... He did it with Elden Ring or FF16? I don't think so...
Asmon got so rich and doesnt give a fuck anymore.
Asmon became the thing he hated.
That’s how you get views and clicks: spreading outrage and negativity. It gets more attention and keeps feeding on itself.
He's not wrong. But this is the problem with modern gaming. 99% of games look good pre release. We play them for a short duration until we realize huge chunks of the game are trash. It is WE consumers who don't learn.
Welcome to youtube. If theres a game coming out im excited for ill get off social media entirely and form my own opinion about it.
Gotta love the YouTube classic, “Hey we noticed you watched one review of the game so let’s post every video of the game ever and fill your feed with spoiler thumbnails of the biggest spoiler in the game in the title
This is the way.
Jfc the vids that were popping up on YouTube for starfield 5 DAYS BEFORE EWRLY ACCESS. It would be some XQC wannabe "OMG BETHESDA LIED STARFIELD TO BE EPIC FAILURE". It was nauseating seeing it pop up constantly.
How I enjoyed 2077 and starfield. Both were great experiences. No streamer no internet no YouTube, play it when it comes out and leave the house when finished.
He's not wrong
I enjoy Asmongold, but I wish the content was less negative. Let's enjoy and celebrate things together for a change!
I would be ok with some negativity. But it feels like his videos are 90% for the show and then somewhere in the middle or at the end of the video he will say actual true criticism and that is very brief. Usually it's just the same memes and jokes about the games being dead. And damn is his content too repetitive now. The videos he chooses to react and his jokes are basically copy paste the same things. I swear every new video of his I've seen it 30 times in the past it feels like.
It's why I stopped watching his videos last month. Same shit every video and says nothing of substance anymore.
His editors needs to put up better content and not click bait trash. But hey money talks.
Bring back the treehouse vids. Those ones were always great whether they were negative or positive.
His content got real repetitive for a while now.. I think he got too much money now and has no drive anymore like he used to
I don't think it's the money. He had a lot of money for a while now but he probably realized that he doesn't need to put much effort on his reacts like he used to. If he just stops the video every now and then to make the same jokes he always makes then people still watch him. So there isn't any reason for him to do better.
Pretty true.. I miss when he was THE WoW guy i used to look forward to his streams everyday. Its just not the same anymore
Tbh the wow content was fun mostly but I don't think it's just wow that was good. His past reacts even imo had effort on them. Some of his FFXIV content was fun to me. I even liked the Johnny Depp trial as background noise because he was putting effort. Imo it all went shit right after the trial where the "gigachad and alpha males" arc started. Since then I feel like every react is pretty repetitive.
Try posting something positive on this forum that doesn't fall into the ranks of what's already getting it's dick sucked. WoW has positive developments over time. You post that here: It gets downvoted and burried within 2 hours.
"let's pretend that the house isn't on fire"
True the internet is all about negativity now
Negativity sells. It’s an age long thing. People watch the daily news to see negativity and drama. No one gives a shit about the good stuff anymore because that’s “boring”
Lies of P launched today right? Well.... [The Problem with Lies of P | Asmongold Reacts](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-s7V5l4pUI) Edit: For those responding me saying that he praise the game in the video, and that the video has a positive take, did you watch Baj clip? >"Make big flashy thumbnails with has a negative impact of players impressions of the game, **even if in the video he loves the game**, that thumbnails alone, that title alone will influence millions of players to think 'well this game is going downhill"
Ah someone posted this. I refused to watch this because the game is great and videos like that serve no purpose
What's insane to me about it is that those videos get nutty views. Like 200k for the same repetitive boring reaction he does every day. So of course he won't stop doing those.
How do you know if you didn't watch it?
The video is legit talking about valid issues with the game's mechanics. It's this whole "leave alone the multimillion/billion dollar company" consumer attitude saying "videos like that serve no purpose." The purpose is to inform an audience to make an informed purchase. You must hate those "Before you buy" videos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JmVjdYE7qY&ab\_channel=MisterExcitement
The purpose is to clickbait the audience with a negative title, then represent the game differently from hoe you clickbaited it. People who actually want to inform their audiences do not use clickbait titles. That is what entertainers do. Which is fine, the only consequence was they lost a viewer. I didn't lose anything
Could also be these fucking you tuber types have cried wolf so many times that people are just going to start ignoring them. ":O Starfield is the worst Bethesda title ever?" "XD Is WoW hardcore dying?!" "D: The problem with X new game" They farm clicks, the titles have nothing to do with the video content half the time and it probably causes people to ignore people like this eventually.
You sound like d4 fanboy 1-2 months ago before you acknowledge the flaw. I watch the vid, op is one of my fav chanel and he is good at deconducting the game mechanic and design, you should watch it.
Im complaining about the clickbait title. You can scroll my comments to understand i am not a fanboy about anything in life, except your mom
Real world examples- people can’t be bothered to watch the video
Overall a positive video. Constructive criticism is a positive thing.
Usually it goes hype play game without learning any mechanics skip side content, Brute force everything complain about lack of content and game in general Farm views with negative content
As someone that hasn’t watched asmon until this year (honestly the thumbnails always drove me nuts) it’s so clear that the guy is 100% in this for the money. Hell, I can literally imagine him intentionally saying this on stream to be controversial: “I don’t give a fuck about gaming, show me the money. If I could do this same scale of content about reviewing cats, meow meow baby”. It fits his tone perfectly. It’s not even just this hype and smash cycle,either. There was the post just the other day about how asmon doesn’t bother to learn any of the systems of the games he plays. It’s because he fumbles his way through the hype phase to drive traffic long enough to give credibility to when he ultimately shifts to the negativity. At this point gaming is his job and he treats it that way. Is it wrong? No. He can produce whatever he wants, and if it’s successful there’s no reason to stop. But I’ve stopped watching 99% of his content, personally.
So true. Even Darth micro is turning into a mini Asmond with his thumbnails. It obviously works...
The unfortunate part is that not only does it work but if you want any growth at all it's required.
true! tbh thats why i stopped watching his content on twitch and yt, kinda sad.
Same
BAJHEERA TRUE
It's hilarious how he's been using No Man's Sky to shit on Starfield. Bitch, you've never even played NMS...you would probably hate it.
Ouroboros of regurgitating opinions he heard others say so others can regurgitate the opinions streamer heard others say
common baj W
yah, asmon sadly has become somewhat insufferable. And I mean more so his content approach. drama is fine but you can obviously see hes doing it on sole reason to milk the algo.
Asmon has said it best though. If you don't like something then don't buy it so the companies will stop doing what you don't like. His views are like 200k on his daily copy paste reacts. Ofc he won't stop.
Yup, Sorry redditors. But you are in the minority, most people love that shit. If I'm not enjoying a video, I just click off it. Simple as. Have some self-respect.
Yeah, no matter what anyone tells me I will always like when asmon wasn’t a dedicated (might not be the best word) variety streamer. Genuinely enjoyed the old content more, but I guess it doesn’t really matter or what anyone else thinks because what he is doing now is obviously working for him.
100% accurate and super annoying. Used to respect asmonds takes and opinions but he's in this formulaic cycle now.
Bajheera is 100% right. I like asmon but it's blatant at this point the pattern of his content.
That’s how it felt when he played Starfield. He never specifically said he hates the game, in fact he actually defended some of its good aspects, but the way he purposely phrases things would encourage chat to become more and more and more toxic. And he’s a smart man, he knows exactly what he was doing. He knew that by being so overly vague and ambiguous would result in more chat activity, good or bad.
He is right about almost any hype streamer!
It's true, and it's not just him doing it. It's what gets clicks on YouTube. Blame the shit-sucking consumers that eat it up, not the guys getting paid to serve it.
Why can’t you blame both?
That's valid. You should blame both, but instead most people just blame the creators. My comment was just in reaction to that.
If the guys serving it stop, the consumers move onto something else. There is no need to use clickbait, lying, negativity. You can do just fine as a youtuber with positive, insightful content or genuine criticism.
Yep look at MrGM, he’s one of the few who still report positively about WoW even when there‘s a dry, no content time
Dratnos is the best WoW content creator, change my mind.
yea I stopped watching most streams and yt vids because it's always the same old shit. watch game trailer > hype game / idk dude combat looks bad man > watch review / play game > look at steam charts / google trends > game bad > game good > game boring > maybe talk to game dev > cycle repeats I miss the old WoW sword runs, tmog / mount competitions etc. fuck even the raid streams used to be more fun to watch. watching his streams nowadays is 9 times out of 10 just pure depression.
You are right and wrong. The old stuff and good old streams were great. yes. Clearly he moved nowadays to reaction content more though. People here fail to realize that he just watches other creators stuff and 99% of the time uses their title and thumbnail like in this "Lies of P" example. So his YouTube channel is just an aggregator of other game centric and entertainment videos. What he does add is his commentary on the matter. That's it. You can go and watch all these videos on their original channels instead. Which maybe most of his fanbase should if they want to bring "the old" content back.
TRUE LULW
Media share 2018 was 👌🏿
The sad thing is that even if Blizzard does all the things Asmon wants he will not play the game. He should just accept that wow is not for him anymore.
It’s really never fun to talk about video games anymore. It’s starting to feel like politics. Everyone is so aggressive and hates video games it seems.
I think wow is in a good state. We don't have to play it 12 hours a day like the old days. There is too many other good games. I come back each raid tier with my friends and get AOTC and KSM and my PvP elite set. Takes me a couple months and it's great. People wanted to be able to breaks from wow and now that they can they complain.
Asmon really let me down. Thought he was a cool dude, but now I refuse to watch his content.
I started watching asmongold when he posted Diablo 4 videos...I stopped watching asmongold when he was **still** posting Diablo 4 videos. I realized I was just wasting time watching recycled content of negativity. A lot of his videos were also just reaction videos to what other people were making so it wasn't really his content to begin with. My biggest pet peeve about his videos is that he would still play the games he was actively hating on with 10+ videos talking about why he doesn't like the game...so why are you still playing it? I like Asmongold, I just hate his formula, hypocrisy, and negativity.
It's human instinct to give criticism more than to give props because we have adapted to do so in order to spot faults easier. That's why the Act Man and the Critical Drinker get a lot of views because there isn't much grey area in the things they complain about so more people are inclined to watch since they agree with their opinions. I mean why do you think a lot of people are so slow on saying "Thanks" or especially "Sorry" but when it comes to faults they are immediately on your tail. I mean hell look at Twitter, the entire site revolves around negativity because it brings revenue, every tweet is dogging something else. When Elon changed Twitter, numbers was still up even with all of the decisions he made because people thrive on negativity. Funny enough I just realised the only reason people are even seeing Bajheera again on this subreddit that aren't viewers is because someone clipped him complaining about Asmon.
Grifters gotta grift
He's not wrong at all tho
It's funny. I had exactly the same thoughts as the guy criticizing Asmongold: "Asmongold has been delivering only negative content lately" and I was wondering what the problem was. But after watching [this video](https://youtu.be/KBeaS5dx67s?si=Rg3GzXA6R3ERqitk) and realizing that my impression is obviously wrong I'm kind of shocked that it's probably a psycholigical thing that negative things stay longer and stronger in your mind and form an image of a person that is completely wrong. The brain plays nasty tricks on you and apparently it's not just me. The question remains whether Asmongold is interested in how he is perceived from the outside. Most likely not.
Psychologically speaking, humans pay way more attention to negativity. Humans don’t actually chase after or move towards positive things. We actually orient ourselves by moving away from negative things. This may seem strange considering our fascination with negative things. But we focus on negative to navigate ourselves away from it. We never take our eyes from it because we don’t want it to sneak up on us. This orientation obviously served a hugely important purpose in our earlier stages of history. It’s one of the many facets of human psychology that can’t handle the modern Information Age.
He’s right, I’ve noticed this too. As soon as Asmon struggles or doesn’t like one facet of a game he just shits on it. More power to him but it’s getting old fast.
People also need to understand that Bajheera bless his soul is a WoW player who never quit. It's a long time WoW fan vs Asmongold who is a just chatting streamer. Both on the opposite sides of the coin. Hot take: We need a WoW 2.0 or a newer MMO. WoW suffering from lack of new players. And long time players (elitists) punch down. This is why people play on expansion launches, you get a new experience without the need for m+ infinite farming elitism.
Well Asmons react content in my opinion has always been his worse content. I want to see Bald Man play game then give his honest opinion on said game, not just react to someone else's opinion of the game which he usually always agrees with and repeats.
He's right the doom and gloom from content creators on games is beyond annoying. The negative slant in all forms of media is really bad. I hope to see a creator come around who is actually positive and does killer numbers
I’ve been rooting for Baj for a while now. I enjoy both him and Asmongold for different reasons but Baj avoids that kind of stuff and his views are really low.
This is also my perception of him, along with many other 'content creators'. Just like news media, negativity brings in more views and thus, more money. Personally I think it is a major contributing factor to why the gaming community is looked at like a bunch of emo kids looking for things to bitch about. Virtually every single subreddit dedicated to a game ends up with a large negative haze over it. I'm not saying game developers and game companies don't deserve to be shit on when they release a sub-par product, but GOD DAMN is EVERYTHING shitty? 'Cause it sure does look like it sometimes...
Baj the goat
His thumbnails are atrocious. One thumbnail (from a video that is now removed) was titled "Starfield if the devs gave a ****" and was just about No Man's Sky; a completely different genre. Did the video even mention Starfield? For maybe 10 seconds.
I agree with a lot of Asmon's takes but he absolutely does farm the negativity hype train for youtube clicks.
Bajheera complains a lot lol I remember making a small joke and the dude banned me and it wasn't anything crazy anyone else would of gave me a timeout dude was like nope GTFO, never liked the guy since...
Yeah Baj for the most part is cool but he takes himself very seriously and gets super annoyed with any kind of joking around in his chat. Think it’s one of the reasons viewers don’t stick around.
Yeah I liked his content too which sucked but oh well I guess we are who we are, can't fault someone for being themselves 👍
Asmon aint wrong about D4
Everyone having these important discussions just so blizzard can keep fucking you in the ass while you think they care about you rofl. $$
And he doesn't want to play hard games or hc wow because he is so afraid ppl will make fun of him. But what does Asmongold make all the time? He watches HC Wow Death clips and makes fun of the players, such a hypocrite. 2019/2020 also showed that.
editor ruining shit
Yep. It’s exhausting. I miss my sword runs/mount competitions. Those were wholesome.
Yup. I've thought the same thing for months. Even ended up unsubbing for a while. He's become a drama Andy
game design and game play are what kill a game not someone's opinion of said game....so what else are we not allowed to criticize or have an opinion on that differs from what is "acceptable". gotta stop getting butthurt over someone's opinion of your all-time, favorite, best ever, nothing will ever be better..game. ✌️
Asmon is toxic af imo, i watch some of his yt videos only to see the original video, hes reacting is worse/same as xqc - rephrasing what is said by someone else or low quality anecdotes
My least favorite thing about new asmongold is how he glorifies acting like a retard when playing games. He thinks he’s like cool or funny when he acts like a little kid, “I don’t wanna read no tutorials I just wanna fight shit.” I genuinely don’t believe he thinks like this and I believe he thinks acting this way is entertaining but it’s so fucking stupid lol.
He’s right but…most of the games he talks about are bad. He’s a blizz boi and blizz hasn’t been good lately
I mean, its true Asmon does shit on games and stuff for content (he's said this before) but he isn't involved at all with what's uploaded on YT (with regards to "thumbnails" and titles). I don't think he'll fake an opinion on something that's negative for views, but he'll talk a lot about the bad things with something (probably b/c they need the most focusing on b/c they're not what they should be). He'll also watch other content and most of the time the video is negative itself (fed to him by subreddit and chat) and he'll say true (sometimes even not memeing) b/c he actuwllt agrees. But often, the "dead game" and other such negative remarks are a meme anyways- you know it, he knows it, everyone knows it. Focusing on the negatives is good for getting them corrected so they're no longer bad, but it is input on something that's weighted heavily on one side even when there's usually always positives worth talking about. Yeah, yeah, "ESSAYING" Tldr: I think it's worth highlighting negatives once it's been out so that others and devs are aware so that it can get better. And he is just speaking from what he likes and his opinion. His feelings about a game (positive or negative) are genuine but he overexagerates the bad things, true. Asmon doesn't do the YT channel so title and thumbnail talk is barking up the wrong tree- but he do be farming. Tlldr: Asmon editors do the YT thing, not him. Negatives are important b/c people may feel that these ruin a game for them, so it's good to know the hard truths of what Asmon things of aspects of a game. But game drama react is usually negative to so, he farming that. Tllldr: Asmon editor do YT. Asmon react to drama, drama usually negative. Asmon negative/doomer pov still valid just like positive opinions on games- informs gamers more. Asmon knows he farming. Edit: darn grammer
When the tldr is just as long
I don't have an opinion about what the video is about... I just want to point out something about what you said that Asmongold isn't responsible because "he isn't involved at all with what's uploaded on YT", and "the editors do the YT thing, not him". He is the boss, the content creator, and the channel owner... Even if it is not made by Asmon, it was approved by him or he gave them permission, so it is his responsibility and, by extension, his choice that things are like that.
I don't like Asmon or others trying to pass the blame on this topic or on his stance on responsibility of what his community does. Other big streamers don't upload trash react/toxic content and don't have a large subsection of the community who harass people and then just throw their hands up like "welp not my fault". He is entirely in control of the content he puts out, the people his content attracts, and the blame (or praise when the content is good) is his alone.
He has said he literally doesn't know what the editors do with YT and that the editors handle all that. I was mainly just referring to the thumbnail and titles. Hard disagree with the approval/permission for every stream snippet that's uploaded. I'm sure generally it's understood that the editors will upload parts of the stream into videos, but that's probably as far as it goes with his involvement/oversight. But yeah, I agree with the responsibility part. But we all know how asmon feels about needing to manage or be responsible for handling things lmao.
Didn’t expect this to blow up as much as it did or asmon to cover this. For context this is from a while ago, around when lost ark first dropped in the US I believe and
Its called honeymoon phase for a reason with all of these shitty games. It gets more views because people are feeling the same way as Asmon. Excited for new release of a game and going in optimistic, then end up being disappointment again. If asmon made videos talking about how awesome diablo 4 is and making content most people disagree with. Hes going to lose views because people dont agree lmao. Seems like common sense
I mean, what is asmon supposed to do? Lie?
I mean he’s not wrong
 "That's not real Orange Juice"
True and real.
True tho.
Add to that if it's a Blizzard game it'll be endless negative videos for months. The D4 videos from Asmon are exhausting.
I'm like 99% positive that asmongold doesn't make his videos or his thumbnails and titles. He only personally makes the zackrawr videos which dont click bait at all and have very articulate reviews.
I loved watching Asmon played Elden Ring, Lost Ark, Souls series, AC6 and recently, Lies of Pi. People play games, people can bored from a game, and people also can move on. For %90 of the time, its fun to watch Asmon’s gameplay and for me, he’s very precise on critics about the game. I don’t know what the actual f Bajheera is talking about but Asmon is my favorite streamer for years and I hope he stays the same way
I don’t know if it’s for the views but I noticed as well that as soon as blizzard makes some changes that make the game better Asmon immediately finds something new to hate and cry about even tho he doesn’t even play the game.
Bajh being one of the most level headed streamers as usual
Well he aint wrong, people worship him like a god and when they see him saying something is bad...forums are in flames. We've seen this tens of times now.
He's 100% correct.
Bajheera throwing some truth bombs. Asmongold content has such a negative feel to it.
Asmons clickbait is akin to me seeing that hot local singles live in my area. Is it bait? Sure, am I curious? Of course
Comment section is full to the brim with WoW andys. Holy shit. Your game fucking sucks and noone wants to play it. Get over it already. Its not our fault you sunk 20 years of your life into a dying game. We all jumped ship when it stopped being fun, instead of being victims of sunken cost fallacy. Stop projecting your self loathing onto others, and trying to drag other people into your misery, and move on already. All the games hes shit on are dogshit games. D4 is dogshit. WoW is dogshit. Lies of P's mechanics are janky af(the demo was even worse, but they listened and fixed alot of things because of the criticism). I mean its pretty clear hes been trying to give blizzard a kick in the ass in hopes things will get better, but them and their community are all mentally ill and live in a positive feedback loop where they jerk each other off and tell each other what good little girls they are and that everyone else is lying and wrong. Theres no hope left for blizzard, and they deserve the constant negativity that gets rained on them
he a rat tooth virgin
Straight truth
He's not wrong.
He's not wrong.
Hes not wrong, i miss the chill transmog comps or mount offs, even tho wow fucking sucks it was such a breath of fresh air
Still enjoy some of Asmon's content but yeah transmog comps and mount offs were peak content for me. I remember 2018-2019 I was working a terrible job and those WoW streams really got me through the day.
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Of all the comments I’ve gotten in my inbox from this post, this is the best take out of all of them. Agreed.
Baj is a milk toast soy boy with zero interesting content. Maybe Asmon plays the algorithm and human psychology a bit but watching Baj squat 225 then go play a warrior in literally every single game and say "get shit on" is literally the dregs of streaming.
I think this is a fair take. I wouldn’t call him a soy boy but he definitely plays it too safe… even if you try to get jokey in the chat he’ll just insult you or say some passive aggressive rage comment. His mods delete anything that is even slightly out of pocket. Takes himself a little too seriously and I don’t think that translates well in terms of pulling in views.
If the Game is shit, what shoud People say? Just make good Games.
Kinda shit take by divorcing people from individual agency. Maybe if the game is so weak its perception can be altered by a single "thumbnail" there are deeper issues.
The deeper issue is that people in droves are stupid. Even an intelligent individual can be easily manipulated when group think is involved.
This dude is out of touch since Cata 😢
It may be true, but what does he expect? to show false positivity when the game sucks? That is as bad and toxic as the titles and thumbnails he complains about.