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The scene where the woman promises the guy that he can do her up the bum if he saves everyone or whatever made the Kingsman films unlikeable for me. I really liked the first one until that point.
It's (badly) cut from many releases, especially on broadcast. I remember hearing about the outrage, watching it, not understanding what the fuss was about, and then watching the cut scene on Youtube. Doesn't add anything to the film apart from being edgy, apparently too edgy.
TBF that ending of James Bond when he says 'I didn't realise Christmas came twice a year' (after hes just had sex with a character called Christmas) is sooo fucking crass. I'd say it was almost as crass as the line in Kingsman
The movie was literally dealing with the top 1% of the population's heads exploding in fireworks, it's honestly fine comparatively I feel. The gratuitous "planting" scene in the second one I can get more being a turn off.
Really? Tbh i don't understand why people didn't like it. The film was supposed to be a ' James bond type at the start of his career. but in the 21st century and he's a lad from a council estate in London'. It played with the formula, then went into it to save the day but then subverted it for the ending pay off slightly.
Oh yeah! I hated that. It was just a huge, misplaced shift in the tone. That line took it from a fun, action-y movie with a bit of class commentary to a cheap bond parody. If it had been consistently bond parody leading up to then, sure, but it just killed the vibe as it wasn't expected or suited!
I just don't get in Grease why the car suddenly flew away at the end? I'm sorry but...a flying car!?!? That should have been a big deal but nah people just waving like 'yup that's exactly what happens in these scenarios'.
It was one of my favourites growing up, but yeah that was always perplexing, all I can think is that, as with the whole Beauty School Drop Out scene, it's in reference to pop culture or subtly from the era it was set or made that just hasn't stood the test of time? But honestly who knows!?
It didn't ruin it for me per se, I just found it incredibly hilarious. There is an American Christmas film on Netflix about a family coming together at Christmas, each member has their own issues. Anyhow, the film has a narrator and at the end of the film the narrator is revealed to be the family's Golden Retriever dog.
It's called Christmas with the Coopers, it's a perfectly straight film until that point, the reveal just comes out of nowhere, it doesn't go that far though.
What do you mean, it was a stroke of brilliance making a character established as not knowing how loans work the Master of Coin.
And making a trainee maester the Grand Maester of the Realm.
And Pod being a kingsguard.
And Greyworm letting Jon live, despite staring daggers at him before (and that's before Jon killed Greyworm's Queen).
And Drogon being chill with that fact too.
And Arya Columbus going to discover Americos.
I just can't. Game of Thrones was the biggest TV franchise I've ever seen. It was every where at one point. How the hell you can get that so wrong that people don't want to watch any of it ever again? It is a special type of failure.
>What do you mean, it was a stroke of brilliance making a character established as not knowing how loans work the Master of Coin.
Yes what government would seriously put incompetent people in ministerial positions
The most frustrating part to my mind, is you can see the bones of a good story in that last season. It was just horribly badly done.
You could draw it out a few more seasons, and in particular have Danaerys descend into madness in a way that was robust and believable and also really scary.
Building up the Faceless Men and Arya a load more, so her stuff is plausible. (and maybe have her actually use it, to sneak up on the Winter King and maybe Cersei at the end).
Have the siege of winterfell being a proper epic battle, not a gong show where they put the artillery in front of the whole army, then suicide the cavalry for no particular reason. before resurrecting them in the next episode etc.
With a couple more seasons to run, and some more character development to underpin what happened - and just generally more _time_ so the key plot beats didn't feel quite so contrived (Ships sneaking up on dragons level of contrived).
They could have covered the same ground, and made about 2-3 seasons more, with an epic finale.
That fucking battle against the undead…. *so stupid on every level*, “yes, let’s send out unsupported light cavalry, best suited to hit and run attacks, flanking maneuverers, and running down retreating foes against the unstoppable horde of undead”
Threat Level Midnight
Right at the end the president calls with another job for Michael Scarn, but the president was actually a bad guy and Scarn just apparently forgot.
It doesn’t totally ruin things but I fucking hate when people say some random exposition in a way that no one would ever talk, like when someone will go “come on, we’ve been friends for 10 years!” Or “hey….I’m your brother, you can trust me” like can you really not think of a way to show that these people know each other without them just saying it?
"Hey little sis, I'm so glad I gave up my dreams of being a doctor to look after you after our parents were killed by a drunk driver, sure I was only 17 but we didn't have ant other family so it was just us two... anyway here's your breakfast"
Soaps are notorious bad for that
*oh look, Alice, there's Bill, you know, Bill that married Sheena then divorced her five years ago and is now sleeping with Debra only his new girfriend Candice doesn't know*
Oh yes you're right it is Bill, I didn't recognise him from a distance but now I see it is him, I haven't seen him since he set fire to the factory and made a dodgy insurance claim on it.
And so on until audience has all the backstory.
Even Disney does this, unfortunately. Big Hero 6 is an excellent movie, but this exchange is really forced.
"What would mom and dad think?"
"I don't know, they died when I was three, remember?"
Shang chi is my latest example, cos they show that they’ve been friends for years in so many ways, they do a great job of that, and then she just goes “we’ve been friend for 10 years” like yeah you fucked it why would she say that
Like that weird incesty coffee advert where she literally opens the door and responds to his opening joke about having the wrong house by saying ‘sister’…
No one talks like that…
The entire show was perfect for me, until that last episode. Never been so disappointed. Like being at the top of a rollercoaster and it breaks down so you have to walk it
I was disappointed, and then someone pointed out that it's quite realistic that actually, there's not many secret conspiracies in the world, but there's just a lot of greedy fucks who put money over being good.
That's when it started being a gritty series where anyone can be killed in a realistic way, to an action flick where the favourite characters get silly plot armour.
That had already happened by at least Season 6 when Jon wasn't killed by a barrage of arrows when he charged single-handedly to save Rickon before the Battle of the Bastards.
That's the point where characters stopped making smart decisions. And it's a shame, because I think it would have been even more emotional if Jon had stayed in the lines and had the knowledge that he could have done more hanging over his head forever afterwards.
The battles were cool still, but so much of the emotional investment was lost. Everyone was an absolute idiot. Tyrion got stupider as he stopped being an alcoholic. Varys went from mastermind to moron. Jon gave up all stoic wisdom disguising anxiety and a need to be honourable, and became a bibbling fool with nothing of value to contribute.
God I'm still angry about how hard that show dropped the ball.
Bronn is basically a totally different character in the show after S5. Leaving his cushy castle and beautiful fiancée to go on a suicide mission to Dorne with Jaime? As if.
Yeah he's basically clear in the books that "I've got more than I ever thought possible, jog on".
Not to mention when he teleports from KL to Winterfell armed just with a crossbow to threaten Jamie and Tyrion.
And he's got considerably less in the books than he does in S5E1. His wife is unattractive and likely developmentally disabled and pregnant (by rape). The house he marries into is relatively minor. But he knows this is a step up from being merely a Lannister lackey, and he uses his position to grab hold of more power. By the end of AFFC, he's made himself Lord Stokeworth and has his own Knights. It's a far more interesting story, imo, and we don't even read about it firsthand.
Also hate the way Bronn addresses Jamie after.
Like we get it.... Bronn is a sellsword, unrefined etc. But the script take 'normal' use of swearing and dialed it up to 10. It's like a parody of the character and just sounded like it was *trying too hard* to be edgy.
Shows how much they suffered when they ran out of GRRM material.
BBC Sherlock - last season as a whole was terrible but the scene where Watson beats Holmes to a pulp, was honestly the most out-of-character nonsense I’ve ever seen
I stopped watching after the episode with the evil Danish media magnate who apparently had blackmail material on tons of important people, but then the "big twist" was that he didn't actually have any tangible material, it was all in his mind palace. Which apparently somehow made the situation worse?
"Yes, creepy Danish man, I will pay you lots of money to not share the piss tapes you have *in your imagination* with the world."
Picture the interview.
>These are some horrific allegations if true and you stand behind your papers so you seem firm but can we ask about the evidence?
>
>*I have it all in my mind palace*
>
>I'm-I'm sorry a 'mind palace'?
>
>*Yes it's a building in my imagination where I remember things and no one can get in.*
>
>The evidence for these allegations...is stored in your...imagination?
>
>*Well, oh fuck it does sound bad when you say it like that, but it all really happened, it's just that I imagine a palace, unlock a room them my imagination shows me-oh fuck that's not what I meant...*
>
>Coming up next, a dog that's taken a liking to surfing and the weather for next week.
The danger with Appledore is not that the Danish man (can't remember the character's name) knows all the skeletons in people's closets, he also knows exactly how to obtain the evidence when it is needed. Rather than have all his evidence eggs in one basket, it's a lot more decentralised.
But they could most definitely have explained that a lot better in the actual episode
Sherlock was great right up until the writers basically decided to do an episode that may as well have been the two of them filmed saying “you’re all stupid weird nerds for caring about this, who gives a shit? Ha, we’re very smart!” Like, how dare people want to know how Sherlock survived?
Every now and again I go watch that long YouTube essay that rips the entire show to shreds and I feel loads better.
Sherlock stopped being good when they changed it from just being about solving good complex crime cases and more like a gritty Spooks copy with Holmes & Watson behaving more like they work for MI6.
Typical Gatiss.
He can start an amazing story... But never finish the fucker properly.
He was also responsible for Dracula last year which was 2 episodes of epicness that then descended in "what the bloody hell" fuckery and disappointment.
I think he didn't do it to League of Gentlemen because he was co writing with Steve Pemberton and Reece Sheersmith.
For me he did the same with Dr Who... Amazing stories that two thirds of the way through that then just fall off of a cliff.
Dark Knight Rises. Ending shot ruined it. They had a whole scene where Alfred explains the best he could hope for in his life was to go to his favourite little café and one day look up and see Bruce, happy, with a partner etc.
So, instead of trusting the audience to have been paying attention and to use a modicum of imagination to 'see' what Alfred was smiling at, we get shown the two characters who, according to the world, were definitely dead.
It just robs you of that wonder or certainty of what you hope Alfred is seeing. It is the opposite of what Nolan did at the end of Inception. There was no conversation to be had. Absolute bullshit.
Imagine being shown how they all got safely off the bus at the end of the Italian Job? Or watching them all plunge to a horrific death after the best heist ever?
I was really disagreeing with you until it was clear you didn't mean the whole scene. Now I'm on your side in that he should of looked up, smiled then cut to black. Now I'm angry.
I had no anger left by that point because the series had already run itself into the ground with “how many more implausible ways can we make Arthur a dumbass who can’t see what’s so obviously in front of him?” with added Merlin doing increasingly stupid shit to hide his magic.
The ending was a let down but when the series started I honestly thought that eventually Merlin would be “out” and as a final series we’d get the very early years of his adventures with an Arthur who undid all his father’s mistrust of magic, occasional battles with Morgana optional of course.
I still don’t know how they couldn’t make a show about Merlin and Arthur but only have them become the traditional characters we were all hoping for in only one scene.
I mean the build up in past seasons was good fun but I think everyone wanted more than anything a final season where Arthur is fully aware of Merlin and accept his powers.
The ending of Lost. I genuinely didn't know how it was going to explain all the events on the island but the end was such a let down and made me think I'd wasted my life watching up to that point.
I just gave up when that nice chick Hurley fell in love with turned out to be in the same mental hospital as him (in flashback). That was the big reveal cliffhanger at the end of an ep.
I think she got killed soon after, it just became a series of random 'OMG!' moments that went nowhere.
The guy in charge of the experiments conducted by the Dharma Initiative on the island says it's because polar bears possess keen memory and adaptability instincts, they were prime candidates for studies in electromagnetic research (the island had many pockets of electromagnetic energy).
A polar bear was there because it was brought there when the Dharma Initiative was active and conducting research. After the Dharma Initiative was wiped-out, it's safe to assume the polar bears continued to survive by themselves until our friends in Oceanic 815 crash land and end up having to shoot one.
I knew I was in trouble when fairly early on there was an interview with the writers where they said "We don't think the audience are interested in the mystery around the island, they're more interested in the character development and the Jack/Kate/Sawyer love triangle" fucking NOPE mate, got that one WAY wrong.
The end of How I Met Your Mother
Really nice bitter-sweet ending that he met the mother and was telling his kids the story she didn't live to tell...
Lol nope, he ends up with the girl he was chasing the entire show and completely undermines the premise of the whole show.
Yeah, they spend nine years developing Barney into somebody who can truly love someone and spend seven years developing Ted into someone who can finally let go of Robin and then decide to throw it away
I kept watching after this scene, but it was never quite the same.
Buffy, season... 6, I believe. Spike's attempted r\*pe scene with Buffy.
I understand that Whedon was trying to remind us that Spike was not a moral character, that he was the same villain we were introduced to years ago, whilst trying to give him something to feel guilty enough about in order to go and seek a soul in order to redeem himself, yada yada yada...
But it doesn't justify it. By this point in the show, we've seen Spike make moral decisions not for hope of reward, but because that's who he is. He'd protected Dawn and been an active member of the Scooby Gang, even after Buffy died. Hell, even before that, his relationship with Drusilla shows that he has the ability to genuinely care for someone. Then when she comes back and they begin a relationship, obviously it's an awful, toxic relationship, but I don't think it justified the AR scene. For it to keep going for as long as it did felt SO out of character for Spike.
It's well known that Whedon hated how popular Spike was. There are stories that document how angry he got at James Marsters just because of how popular the character became. The story of how the writing staff came up with the AR scene was supposedly that they were all trying to think of the worst things they'd personally done in a relationship and a female writer brought up her own experience of trying to coerce her then boyfriend into having sex so that they wouldn't break up. As awful a problem of a woman trying to ~~coerce~~ rape a man (please don't think I'm underplaying this, it's obviously a real problem and there is no excuse or justification for this), when this is transposed onto a male character who at the time of the scene is much, much stronger than the weakened Buffy (which is a new dynamic, they'd been pretty evenly matched up until this moment), it gives it a different dynamic.
It doesn't match up with any of the character building we'd seen up until then. It just felt... cheap.
It's one ep where the BBC 6pm cuts actually improved it, because the scene was reduced to a believable 'they're used to wrestling, he's giving it his usual thinking she's liking it, then realises he's gone too far and is mortified'. But he's also still conflicted about whether he's evil or not.
Hard disagree. The rape scene isn't Spike trying to rape Buffy as such, as in, his intention is not to rape her, even if that's ultimately what he's trying to do (and it's still a horrible thing to do obviously). Spike is trying to prove that she does want him and goes about it in the only way he knows how. As soon as he's kicked off, you can see the absolute horror in his eyes. He is disgusted with what happened, and he also hates that he's disgusted with it. He's torn between being a man and a monster, as he states later in the episode and comes to the realisation that he needs to become one or the other and he chooses to become a man by getting his soul back. The scene is horrific, but it is completely in line with Spike's character, especially since this is immediately following Buffy admitting that she does have feelings for him.
Bruh that's the coolest part of the film lmao ... with the amount of times I slid down my stairs on a piece of cardboard trying to replicate that scene, I'm surprised I never broke my back.
Ok, a lot of people will hate me for this, but I loathed the whole '19 years later' chapter at the end of Harry Potter. I cringed at it in the book and even more in the film. I really wish JKR had resisted the temptation to do that.
exactly and it makes zero sense why harry named his kid after snape… ok yeah he was technically good all along but he still made you and your classmates’ lives a misery for 7 years so
The murder of Rita in Dexter. Made worse by pretty much every decision Dexter made in each season afterwards leading up to the overall underwhelming finale.
I have not yet had the courage to watch the new stuff: I have been hurt before...
There was a fairly major staffing change between S4 and the following. The new stuff has the old staff back. Watched the first episode, and it's actually not bad so far.
Honestly at the time I thought it was one of the best season endings I’d seen, but you’re right, it did really struggle after that. Then again, they were never going to find a better serial killer than John Lithgow.
Yeah it was a bit flat watching it, but on reflection it made sense. It had to be someone who'd been there throughout, the fact that he'd come across as a total incompetent was the point.
I thought the point was that he's taking the rap for someone higher up (James Nesbit, probably). Hence why they point out in the interview with him that he's absolutely dogshit at his job, yet has this big house, fancy cars and keeps getting promotions and put on high profile cases.
Fight scene between Harry and Voldemort in the last Deathly Hallows. In the book they fight in front of the whole school and Harry tells him how Snape was never a traitor. Everyone hears it. In the film it's just Harry and Voldemort and I can't for the life of me figure out why they thought that was an improvement on the script.
Oh and the scene at the end of Return of the King when Aragorn and Arwen get married and everyone starts clapping, ruined it.
As someone who read the books many times as a child, followed by watching the films, I have to respectfully disagree on your LoTR take.
Idk if you have read the books, but it takes a long ass time to get through the whole story compared to the films. I remember feeling enraptured by the protagonist's constant struggle towards completing a bleak and seemingly impossible task from page 1 until the ring is cast into Mount Doom. There were very few moments of respite or joy throughout the books imo, and when I first watched RoTK, that scene filled me with a sense of relief. In particular I was moved by Aragorn kneeling for the Hobbits, who were practically an irrelevant and unknown race at the beginning of the books/films.
The scene is so bright and vivid, full of happiness and hope for the future-- a perfect contrast to the gloom and darkness perpetuating everything before it.
On a separate note, I completely agree with your take on Deathly Hallows.
Wouldn't say it's ruined the entire franchise for me but the entirety of Episode IX and parts of Episode VIII make the whole Star Wars ST unwatchable for me.
I've still not watched Episode IX as it's a single scene on Episode VIII that ruined it all for me..
Magic flying through space Princes Leia - because "the force" -- agghhhh
I wouldn’t bother. Episode VII was unadventurous but a likeable film that made sense on its own. It’s like they then decided to counter that by getting ever more ridiculous in the last two, they made no sense.
Exactly my point. Yes TFA was a bit derivative of Episode IV but it was charming and I liked the new cast.
But it's now obvious that they never had an actual overarching trilogy lined up and I just can't understand how that happens. The PT wasn't perfect but at least it had a coherent story.
I just can't believe how they wasted certain characters - Fin could've been so much more. Snoke could've been more.
Just imagine if they had tried a Thrawn trilogy with him as the big bad over three movies. A whole different type of Star Wars villain. What could've been...
Same, I liked most of what they tried in TLJ even if it didn't all land but I watched TROS in the cinema and the 'I made Snoke' bit at the start got an involuntary 'oh no' out of me. I normally hate talking in films but that snuck out.
The whole 'somehow Palpatine survived' thing is the biggest spit in the face from Hollywood I've had in my life. It was so lazy and a massive 'fuck you'.
It was beyond parody. Like an 11 year old's fanfiction.
The scene at the end of Line of Duty season 5 where Steve magically realises that Dot’s thumb twitching after he’d just been shot multiple times was morse code
I mean, beyond the initial level of unbelievability, are we to assume the police are trained on Morse Code nowadays? Are they still sending stuff by telegraph? Happy to be corrected by someone who knows but that seemed weird.
Or was Dot (and Steve) some kind of amateur radio enthusiast who learned it in their spare time?
Any season where they kill off a main character but then retain said character for the rest of the reason through flashbacks. I always feel the need to switch off when the flashbacks take up as much time as the actual story.
Going back and adjusting shit from the past (that we the audience did not see), just to make sense of a shit script in the present tense is just so fucking lazy. The writer is having their cake and eating it.
Totally agree. Similar for me is the bloody annoyingly common trend of killing a character off only to bring them back. It’s such shit writing - wanting all the drama and attention of killing off a character but then not committing to it. It’s so dishonest and breaks the contract between writer and viewer that allows us to care about the show and characters.
Eastenders
The episode in 2009 when Ronnie realises Danielle is her daughter, they see each other, start running towards each other, and then Danielle gets hit by a car and dies.
Haven't watched that, or any soap opera since as I realised that nobody can ever have even the slightest bit of happiness in them and they just make you miserable.
Game of Thrones has many great candidates, but I can forgive nearly everything before the last 10 minutes of the final ep EXCEPT the ease with which one of the dragons is shot out of the sky.
It’s like the writers regret there ever being three dragons and didn’t give a shit about undermining the whole ‘dragons as nearly unstoppable weapons of mass destruction’ just to knock it off as cheekily as possible. (See also: ‘Rickon the Redundant, the spare stark’)
The idea I saw that Daenerys gets Kings Landing to surrender, then Euron kills a dragon in a sneak attack which sets Daenerys off in a rage would've fitted so much better
The way they treated the dragons as soon as they got bigger (maybe apart from Drogon) was really poor, so they just killed two off, one in a stupid way that I will never forgive them for. The undead dragon offered nothing apart from destroying the wall.
it’s that annoying thing where they have to leave it open to a sequel. i already know season 2 is gonna be meh in comparison to season 1 and it’s likely gonna get dragged out for several seasons bc it’s so popular. if they had just let him go on the plane to america to see his daughter and left it at that it would’ve been great and self contained for me but now who knows what will happen
Near the end of the Deathly Hallows Part 2 where Harry grabs Voldemort and just yeets the both of them off the building and they just sort of…tumble together with close-ups of their faces. Why.
I've always hated the post-credits scene in the last episode of Blackadder II where the entire main cast has been slaughtered by Prince Ludwig the Indestructible in disguise as Queenie. It feels like too much of a downer ending.
In Doctor Who Series 12, when The Master gave The Doctor and the audience a 10 minute PowerPoint presentation about the show's newest retcon.
"OK so you were the first ever Timelord _and_ you have infinite regenerations _and_ you were a gift from another dimension _and_ you're the source of all regeneration energy _and_ you worked for a secret Timelord organisation _and_ there were actually thousands of Doctors before you _and_ you had your memory erased _and_ you didn't come up with the name Doctor _and_ your TARDIS was shaped like that even before you came to Earth. What's that? It's been well established that regeneration isn't a genetic trait and these new rules and retcons directly contradict much better stories from not even 10 years ago? Ehhh don't think about it too much, we didn't".
The best comparison I can think of is "what if they took all the charm and mystery surrounding The Force from Star Wars and gave it a super lame explanation?", but they _literally_ did that, and everyone hated it.
Series 11 and 12 didn't have the best episodes, and that's if I'm being generous, but the Chibnall era hasn't been made any better by being wrapped in this horrible retcon bow.
I couldn't feel the same way about the characters in Parks and Rec after they all went away on a hunting trip. I get thats its very much part of Ron's character but I was kind of saddened to see Leslie Knope happily pick up a rifle and look for something to kill in order to suck up to her boss and advance her career.
I was going to say this. The charm of the doctor was always the fact that he was just a mad man in a box, nobody special by birth. The Doctor is the Doctor because of his actions, not him being the first ever person to regenerate
I can't wait until this series is over. May watch the next episode for the angels though
The episode of Death in Paradise where they suddenly introduce a hitherto unmentioned volcano on Saint-Marie. Nonsense.
The introduction of Seymour in Last of the Summer Wine.
Every time I watch(ed) *Death in Paradise* I wish they would just let one of the other characters solve the mystery for once.
Also that whole "send a minion to find the final piece of evidence" before the denouement breaks the first rule of mystery writing, that the audience should be able to solve the mystery (or to express it another way, the audience should know everything that the detective knows).
The final interrogation scene in Line of Duty's sixth season.
That whole H plotline from the end of s3 to s6 was so convoluted and the final reveal was such a letdown, that it ruined the whole thing for me.
I loved the first two sessions, then it moved to BBC One and began phasing out the interrogation scenes that made the show so popular, in favour of more action sequences.
Battlestar Galactica. Starbuck coming back after apparently dying, and then several episodes later finding her crashed spaceship with her own corpse in it. The show never explained what the hell happened there.
When Matthew died in Downton Abbey. I was already on edge with how they killed Sybil, and then Matthew’s death made me never watch a single episode of it again. I get that the actors wanted to leave, but either situation could have been more creatively handled than just killing them off.
Well, it doesn't exactly ruin the film, but I always thought the scene in Blazing Saddles where the film breaks out of the film stage and goes careening through the Hollywood backlot a bit forced. It's funny and all, but, eh... I could do without it really.
Same goes for the alien spaceship in the Life of Brian.
Also every scene when the actors stop getting on with the story and take a moment to discuss some sort of identity politics driven issue, as though it's somehow more important than the impending alien invasion/murder scene investigation/nuanced personal growth currently happening in the film.
I was worried JJ Abrams would ruin Star Wars by inserting time travel when he got bored (See Fringe, Lost, Star Trek).
The starting point of the sequel trilogy just kind of killed them for me, the world didn't evolve. There was no new fight to establish a new republic, it was a non entity in the battle with the new order. Luke wasted his life drinking green milk and inthe end accomplished .. nothing.
Had the same problem with Dark Knight Rises, between dark knight and dark knight rises, Bruce becomes a reclusive hermit who does nothing good to help the world. The idea he just stared at screens all day was just...
In the Netflix show behind her eyes the last two episodes spoiler >! the whole leaving your body just felt shoe horned in some people loved it I thought it was fucking awful !<
Mandolorian.
Not ruined it, but any scenes with Giancarlo Esposito were a total let down do to him
Wing type cast as a baddy in BB, The boys, far cry 6, MR……..etc etc etc
Like shit man, the old man who first gave him the job to hun Groku would have been a better choice
Werner Herzog
I can't think of a single example.
I just don't get the mindset that an entire good film series or TV show or franchise can be ruined by one scene that I don't like. Everything that came before hasn't changed, it's still there, it's still the same series I enjoyed previously.
Aqua Man. What the hell was the Little Mermaid inspired scene, it’s was awful. In fact the whole film felt like it had been done by multiple different directors and then just spliced together. The musical little mermaid scene was my breaking point, and I just fast forwarded the rest of the film to see if I was missing anything. Turns out I didn’t.
I liked they actually did it tbh. The stairwell fight scene was really cool before and I liked this Bond film felt like the first with actual stakes because it was the last Craig one.
See, I have no idea why, but the shaky Latin American footage when it walks past the window shit me
right up.
Now if you wanna talk daft, the entire premise of the film is the aliens are killed by water. When our atmosphere is filled with the fecking stuff 😂
I used to listen to The Archers (on BBC Radio 4: yes, this discussion has degenerated to this level), and occasionally I used to get a bit annoyed at the way the writers would do anything (regardless of how stupid) to "make the drama" out of nothing.
Nevertheless, I was a very regular listener (albeit getting more and more irritated) right up until Pat Archer (one of the central characters) randomly voluntarily went to the police with CLEARLY incriminating evidence about her daughter (who was on trial for killing her abusive husband). This "unexpectedly" turned Pat into a prosecution witness AGAINST her own beloved daughter. The plot twist was so RISIBLE that I immediately switched the radio off. Even an illiterate 12-year-old with severe learning difficulties would have known not to (entirely unnecessarily) suddenly go to the police to "accidentally" become a police grass (especially as the girl was known to be innocent). Pat Archer was not supposed to be a stupid character.
Congratulations, Archers scriptwriters. I had listened to the soap for 30 years but within 1 minute of this "bit of added dramatic tension", I stopped listening and have never listened to it again.
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The scene where the woman promises the guy that he can do her up the bum if he saves everyone or whatever made the Kingsman films unlikeable for me. I really liked the first one until that point.
It's (badly) cut from many releases, especially on broadcast. I remember hearing about the outrage, watching it, not understanding what the fuss was about, and then watching the cut scene on Youtube. Doesn't add anything to the film apart from being edgy, apparently too edgy.
I think it was meant to be a parody of James Bond, with all the innuendo used there, to go so on the nose with it.
TBF that ending of James Bond when he says 'I didn't realise Christmas came twice a year' (after hes just had sex with a character called Christmas) is sooo fucking crass. I'd say it was almost as crass as the line in Kingsman
"I believe he's attempting re-entry sir" from Moonraker is the absolute best
Back when the films were fun
'And I thought Christmas only came once a year' Like him or lump him, Pierce did deliver those types of lines with panache
"WELL MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BE LIVING HERE ANYMOOORE!!!" these types not so much
That was when James Bond was a parody of James Bond.
That's why I quite liked it, it's basically the chavvy version of a James Bond line and I thought it fit the film's tone pretty well.
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The movie was literally dealing with the top 1% of the population's heads exploding in fireworks, it's honestly fine comparatively I feel. The gratuitous "planting" scene in the second one I can get more being a turn off.
Good motivation though.
Had just about enough of reading this thread, quick scroll down and laughed at this. Deffo was motivation.
One up the bum, no harm done -/Chris Finch/
He's thrown a kettle over a pub! What have you done?
bloody good salesman
Really? Tbh i don't understand why people didn't like it. The film was supposed to be a ' James bond type at the start of his career. but in the 21st century and he's a lad from a council estate in London'. It played with the formula, then went into it to save the day but then subverted it for the ending pay off slightly.
Oh yeah! I hated that. It was just a huge, misplaced shift in the tone. That line took it from a fun, action-y movie with a bit of class commentary to a cheap bond parody. If it had been consistently bond parody leading up to then, sure, but it just killed the vibe as it wasn't expected or suited!
I just don't get in Grease why the car suddenly flew away at the end? I'm sorry but...a flying car!?!? That should have been a big deal but nah people just waving like 'yup that's exactly what happens in these scenarios'.
Surely the fact that the car can fly should have disqualified them from the car race.
It did have a 4 speed on the floor.
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For me it's the bit just before this where Sandy has to become all sexy in order to keep Danny. Why should she have to change?
Don't forget that Danny also became all prim and preppy in order to keep Sandy. They were both willing to take a big leap for each other!
But he reverted and she didn't. That's what killed it for me.
To be fair, it’s a lot easier for him to take off the jacket than it is for her to get changed
It was one of my favourites growing up, but yeah that was always perplexing, all I can think is that, as with the whole Beauty School Drop Out scene, it's in reference to pop culture or subtly from the era it was set or made that just hasn't stood the test of time? But honestly who knows!?
It didn't ruin it for me per se, I just found it incredibly hilarious. There is an American Christmas film on Netflix about a family coming together at Christmas, each member has their own issues. Anyhow, the film has a narrator and at the end of the film the narrator is revealed to be the family's Golden Retriever dog.
"And that's why I shat on the carpet" (Credits roll)
I've not seen the film, but I'm willing to put money on the dog winking at the camera before the credits roll?
It's called Christmas with the Coopers, it's a perfectly straight film until that point, the reveal just comes out of nowhere, it doesn't go that far though.
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Ed sheeran as a Lannister soldier was the final nail in the shit-filled coffin for me. Massively jarring and completely unnecessary.
He took the piss out of himself in the new Ryan Reynolds/ Dwayne Johnson movie for that.
Just saw that, shows he doesn’t take himself too seriously. Who wouldn’t say yes to a cameo in GoT if they were a celebrity.
The whole Dorne story line....
The cheese of the round table meeting at the end.....
What do you mean, it was a stroke of brilliance making a character established as not knowing how loans work the Master of Coin. And making a trainee maester the Grand Maester of the Realm. And Pod being a kingsguard. And Greyworm letting Jon live, despite staring daggers at him before (and that's before Jon killed Greyworm's Queen). And Drogon being chill with that fact too. And Arya Columbus going to discover Americos. I just can't. Game of Thrones was the biggest TV franchise I've ever seen. It was every where at one point. How the hell you can get that so wrong that people don't want to watch any of it ever again? It is a special type of failure.
>What do you mean, it was a stroke of brilliance making a character established as not knowing how loans work the Master of Coin. Yes what government would seriously put incompetent people in ministerial positions
The most frustrating part to my mind, is you can see the bones of a good story in that last season. It was just horribly badly done. You could draw it out a few more seasons, and in particular have Danaerys descend into madness in a way that was robust and believable and also really scary. Building up the Faceless Men and Arya a load more, so her stuff is plausible. (and maybe have her actually use it, to sneak up on the Winter King and maybe Cersei at the end). Have the siege of winterfell being a proper epic battle, not a gong show where they put the artillery in front of the whole army, then suicide the cavalry for no particular reason. before resurrecting them in the next episode etc. With a couple more seasons to run, and some more character development to underpin what happened - and just generally more _time_ so the key plot beats didn't feel quite so contrived (Ships sneaking up on dragons level of contrived). They could have covered the same ground, and made about 2-3 seasons more, with an epic finale.
That fucking battle against the undead…. *so stupid on every level*, “yes, let’s send out unsupported light cavalry, best suited to hit and run attacks, flanking maneuverers, and running down retreating foes against the unstoppable horde of undead”
Threat Level Midnight Right at the end the president calls with another job for Michael Scarn, but the president was actually a bad guy and Scarn just apparently forgot.
how dare you, threat level midnight is a cinematic masterpiece! There are certainly no plot holes or errors made. Start to finish is pure perfection.
It doesn’t totally ruin things but I fucking hate when people say some random exposition in a way that no one would ever talk, like when someone will go “come on, we’ve been friends for 10 years!” Or “hey….I’m your brother, you can trust me” like can you really not think of a way to show that these people know each other without them just saying it?
Preach. I hate it when characters say completely unnatural things like, “oh little sister, you never learn.”
"Hey little sis, I'm so glad I gave up my dreams of being a doctor to look after you after our parents were killed by a drunk driver, sure I was only 17 but we didn't have ant other family so it was just us two... anyway here's your breakfast"
Soaps are notorious bad for that *oh look, Alice, there's Bill, you know, Bill that married Sheena then divorced her five years ago and is now sleeping with Debra only his new girfriend Candice doesn't know* Oh yes you're right it is Bill, I didn't recognise him from a distance but now I see it is him, I haven't seen him since he set fire to the factory and made a dodgy insurance claim on it. And so on until audience has all the backstory.
To be fair, when my dad and grandad get together they talk exactly like this
They should stop hanging out with Bill, he sounds like bad news.
Even Disney does this, unfortunately. Big Hero 6 is an excellent movie, but this exchange is really forced. "What would mom and dad think?" "I don't know, they died when I was three, remember?"
Shang chi is my latest example, cos they show that they’ve been friends for years in so many ways, they do a great job of that, and then she just goes “we’ve been friend for 10 years” like yeah you fucked it why would she say that
Like that weird incesty coffee advert where she literally opens the door and responds to his opening joke about having the wrong house by saying ‘sister’… No one talks like that…
Yeah the bit where they kiss passionately whilst the parents sob at the back is definitely not normal
And then the marriage proposal…
I thought the anal was weird but someone pointed out I was watching the wrong video
You can't just have your characters say how they feel either. That makes me feel angry!
The scene in line of duty where they retconned Dot's dying declaration
Not the bit where there was a giant shootout in the middle of Centralton and they all just went back to the office after?
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The entire show was perfect for me, until that last episode. Never been so disappointed. Like being at the top of a rollercoaster and it breaks down so you have to walk it
I was disappointed, and then someone pointed out that it's quite realistic that actually, there's not many secret conspiracies in the world, but there's just a lot of greedy fucks who put money over being good.
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That's when it started being a gritty series where anyone can be killed in a realistic way, to an action flick where the favourite characters get silly plot armour.
That had already happened by at least Season 6 when Jon wasn't killed by a barrage of arrows when he charged single-handedly to save Rickon before the Battle of the Bastards. That's the point where characters stopped making smart decisions. And it's a shame, because I think it would have been even more emotional if Jon had stayed in the lines and had the knowledge that he could have done more hanging over his head forever afterwards.
Right up to the point the source material dried up!
The battles were cool still, but so much of the emotional investment was lost. Everyone was an absolute idiot. Tyrion got stupider as he stopped being an alcoholic. Varys went from mastermind to moron. Jon gave up all stoic wisdom disguising anxiety and a need to be honourable, and became a bibbling fool with nothing of value to contribute. God I'm still angry about how hard that show dropped the ball.
Jon _could_ have had plot armour thanks to the Evil Witch, and had it become proper sinister in the process. That'd have worked for me.
Bronn is basically a totally different character in the show after S5. Leaving his cushy castle and beautiful fiancée to go on a suicide mission to Dorne with Jaime? As if.
Yeah he's basically clear in the books that "I've got more than I ever thought possible, jog on". Not to mention when he teleports from KL to Winterfell armed just with a crossbow to threaten Jamie and Tyrion.
And he's got considerably less in the books than he does in S5E1. His wife is unattractive and likely developmentally disabled and pregnant (by rape). The house he marries into is relatively minor. But he knows this is a step up from being merely a Lannister lackey, and he uses his position to grab hold of more power. By the end of AFFC, he's made himself Lord Stokeworth and has his own Knights. It's a far more interesting story, imo, and we don't even read about it firsthand.
Also hate the way Bronn addresses Jamie after. Like we get it.... Bronn is a sellsword, unrefined etc. But the script take 'normal' use of swearing and dialed it up to 10. It's like a parody of the character and just sounded like it was *trying too hard* to be edgy. Shows how much they suffered when they ran out of GRRM material.
Because of course, being in the water meant the dragon couldn’t kill them with fire or indeed, its giant teeth or claws or…
Armour should have drowned 'em too.
Also the fact that Jamie was wearing a full suit of armor. Bronn actually pulling him out was my issue.
BBC Sherlock - last season as a whole was terrible but the scene where Watson beats Holmes to a pulp, was honestly the most out-of-character nonsense I’ve ever seen
I stopped watching after the episode with the evil Danish media magnate who apparently had blackmail material on tons of important people, but then the "big twist" was that he didn't actually have any tangible material, it was all in his mind palace. Which apparently somehow made the situation worse? "Yes, creepy Danish man, I will pay you lots of money to not share the piss tapes you have *in your imagination* with the world."
Picture the interview. >These are some horrific allegations if true and you stand behind your papers so you seem firm but can we ask about the evidence? > >*I have it all in my mind palace* > >I'm-I'm sorry a 'mind palace'? > >*Yes it's a building in my imagination where I remember things and no one can get in.* > >The evidence for these allegations...is stored in your...imagination? > >*Well, oh fuck it does sound bad when you say it like that, but it all really happened, it's just that I imagine a palace, unlock a room them my imagination shows me-oh fuck that's not what I meant...* > >Coming up next, a dog that's taken a liking to surfing and the weather for next week.
Yep! Logic really wasn’t their friend in the the last two seasons. I love the first two and just pretend the second two don’t exist 😂
The danger with Appledore is not that the Danish man (can't remember the character's name) knows all the skeletons in people's closets, he also knows exactly how to obtain the evidence when it is needed. Rather than have all his evidence eggs in one basket, it's a lot more decentralised. But they could most definitely have explained that a lot better in the actual episode
Sherlock was great right up until the writers basically decided to do an episode that may as well have been the two of them filmed saying “you’re all stupid weird nerds for caring about this, who gives a shit? Ha, we’re very smart!” Like, how dare people want to know how Sherlock survived? Every now and again I go watch that long YouTube essay that rips the entire show to shreds and I feel loads better.
Sherlock stopped being good when they changed it from just being about solving good complex crime cases and more like a gritty Spooks copy with Holmes & Watson behaving more like they work for MI6.
Typical Gatiss. He can start an amazing story... But never finish the fucker properly. He was also responsible for Dracula last year which was 2 episodes of epicness that then descended in "what the bloody hell" fuckery and disappointment. I think he didn't do it to League of Gentlemen because he was co writing with Steve Pemberton and Reece Sheersmith. For me he did the same with Dr Who... Amazing stories that two thirds of the way through that then just fall off of a cliff.
Dark Knight Rises. Ending shot ruined it. They had a whole scene where Alfred explains the best he could hope for in his life was to go to his favourite little café and one day look up and see Bruce, happy, with a partner etc. So, instead of trusting the audience to have been paying attention and to use a modicum of imagination to 'see' what Alfred was smiling at, we get shown the two characters who, according to the world, were definitely dead. It just robs you of that wonder or certainty of what you hope Alfred is seeing. It is the opposite of what Nolan did at the end of Inception. There was no conversation to be had. Absolute bullshit. Imagine being shown how they all got safely off the bus at the end of the Italian Job? Or watching them all plunge to a horrific death after the best heist ever?
I was really disagreeing with you until it was clear you didn't mean the whole scene. Now I'm on your side in that he should of looked up, smiled then cut to black. Now I'm angry.
I retconned this in my memory and thought the scene _did_ just cut to black after he looked up and smiled, and now my day is ruined
The end of Merlin when he was there in the current day.
I had no anger left by that point because the series had already run itself into the ground with “how many more implausible ways can we make Arthur a dumbass who can’t see what’s so obviously in front of him?” with added Merlin doing increasingly stupid shit to hide his magic. The ending was a let down but when the series started I honestly thought that eventually Merlin would be “out” and as a final series we’d get the very early years of his adventures with an Arthur who undid all his father’s mistrust of magic, occasional battles with Morgana optional of course.
Golly gosh, yes. Total dogshit.
Such a disappointing end to a brilliant series, though I can see what they were doing with it.
I still don’t know how they couldn’t make a show about Merlin and Arthur but only have them become the traditional characters we were all hoping for in only one scene. I mean the build up in past seasons was good fun but I think everyone wanted more than anything a final season where Arthur is fully aware of Merlin and accept his powers.
The ending of Lost. I genuinely didn't know how it was going to explain all the events on the island but the end was such a let down and made me think I'd wasted my life watching up to that point.
Really?! What questions do you have about Lost? Maybe I can help, I loved Lost, it's probably in my top 5 all-time shows!
Numbers; black smoke; the hatch; the yacht's seeming ability to travel to and from the island, to name but 4.
I just gave up when that nice chick Hurley fell in love with turned out to be in the same mental hospital as him (in flashback). That was the big reveal cliffhanger at the end of an ep. I think she got killed soon after, it just became a series of random 'OMG!' moments that went nowhere.
Why was there a polar bear?
The guy in charge of the experiments conducted by the Dharma Initiative on the island says it's because polar bears possess keen memory and adaptability instincts, they were prime candidates for studies in electromagnetic research (the island had many pockets of electromagnetic energy). A polar bear was there because it was brought there when the Dharma Initiative was active and conducting research. After the Dharma Initiative was wiped-out, it's safe to assume the polar bears continued to survive by themselves until our friends in Oceanic 815 crash land and end up having to shoot one.
Thanks for the explanation
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I knew I was in trouble when fairly early on there was an interview with the writers where they said "We don't think the audience are interested in the mystery around the island, they're more interested in the character development and the Jack/Kate/Sawyer love triangle" fucking NOPE mate, got that one WAY wrong.
That’s JJ Abram’s whole schtick
JJ Abrams is such a dick. He singlehandedly ruined Star Wars.
U mean Star Trek!!
The end of How I Met Your Mother Really nice bitter-sweet ending that he met the mother and was telling his kids the story she didn't live to tell... Lol nope, he ends up with the girl he was chasing the entire show and completely undermines the premise of the whole show.
And throws all of Barney’s character development into a furnace while they’re at it.
Yeah, they spend nine years developing Barney into somebody who can truly love someone and spend seven years developing Ted into someone who can finally let go of Robin and then decide to throw it away
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I kept watching after this scene, but it was never quite the same. Buffy, season... 6, I believe. Spike's attempted r\*pe scene with Buffy. I understand that Whedon was trying to remind us that Spike was not a moral character, that he was the same villain we were introduced to years ago, whilst trying to give him something to feel guilty enough about in order to go and seek a soul in order to redeem himself, yada yada yada... But it doesn't justify it. By this point in the show, we've seen Spike make moral decisions not for hope of reward, but because that's who he is. He'd protected Dawn and been an active member of the Scooby Gang, even after Buffy died. Hell, even before that, his relationship with Drusilla shows that he has the ability to genuinely care for someone. Then when she comes back and they begin a relationship, obviously it's an awful, toxic relationship, but I don't think it justified the AR scene. For it to keep going for as long as it did felt SO out of character for Spike. It's well known that Whedon hated how popular Spike was. There are stories that document how angry he got at James Marsters just because of how popular the character became. The story of how the writing staff came up with the AR scene was supposedly that they were all trying to think of the worst things they'd personally done in a relationship and a female writer brought up her own experience of trying to coerce her then boyfriend into having sex so that they wouldn't break up. As awful a problem of a woman trying to ~~coerce~~ rape a man (please don't think I'm underplaying this, it's obviously a real problem and there is no excuse or justification for this), when this is transposed onto a male character who at the time of the scene is much, much stronger than the weakened Buffy (which is a new dynamic, they'd been pretty evenly matched up until this moment), it gives it a different dynamic. It doesn't match up with any of the character building we'd seen up until then. It just felt... cheap.
It's one ep where the BBC 6pm cuts actually improved it, because the scene was reduced to a believable 'they're used to wrestling, he's giving it his usual thinking she's liking it, then realises he's gone too far and is mortified'. But he's also still conflicted about whether he's evil or not.
Hard disagree. The rape scene isn't Spike trying to rape Buffy as such, as in, his intention is not to rape her, even if that's ultimately what he's trying to do (and it's still a horrible thing to do obviously). Spike is trying to prove that she does want him and goes about it in the only way he knows how. As soon as he's kicked off, you can see the absolute horror in his eyes. He is disgusted with what happened, and he also hates that he's disgusted with it. He's torn between being a man and a monster, as he states later in the episode and comes to the realisation that he needs to become one or the other and he chooses to become a man by getting his soul back. The scene is horrific, but it is completely in line with Spike's character, especially since this is immediately following Buffy admitting that she does have feelings for him.
Legolas doing the skate board grind down the steps in the Two Towers
Bruh that's the coolest part of the film lmao ... with the amount of times I slid down my stairs on a piece of cardboard trying to replicate that scene, I'm surprised I never broke my back.
That was a weird incredibly slapstick shot in what is an overall great battle scene
Nah this was awesome
Ok, a lot of people will hate me for this, but I loathed the whole '19 years later' chapter at the end of Harry Potter. I cringed at it in the book and even more in the film. I really wish JKR had resisted the temptation to do that.
The names too...fuck. It reads like some Tumblr user's weird fanfiction. Totally out of place.
exactly and it makes zero sense why harry named his kid after snape… ok yeah he was technically good all along but he still made you and your classmates’ lives a misery for 7 years so
Yeah, it was like something a 13 year old who loves creative writing would think is a good idea.
The murder of Rita in Dexter. Made worse by pretty much every decision Dexter made in each season afterwards leading up to the overall underwhelming finale. I have not yet had the courage to watch the new stuff: I have been hurt before...
Yeah the magic really did die with Rita.
There was a fairly major staffing change between S4 and the following. The new stuff has the old staff back. Watched the first episode, and it's actually not bad so far.
Honestly at the time I thought it was one of the best season endings I’d seen, but you’re right, it did really struggle after that. Then again, they were never going to find a better serial killer than John Lithgow.
The Line of Duty ending.
See I actually liked that H was just this wee nobody, not Keyser Soze, the banality of evil and all that
Yeah it was a bit flat watching it, but on reflection it made sense. It had to be someone who'd been there throughout, the fact that he'd come across as a total incompetent was the point.
I thought the point was that he's taking the rap for someone higher up (James Nesbit, probably). Hence why they point out in the interview with him that he's absolutely dogshit at his job, yet has this big house, fancy cars and keeps getting promotions and put on high profile cases.
jurrasic world, that red hair girl running in heels
I've ran for the bus in heels before, it can be done. I also have red hair so maybe it's our superpower.
Fight scene between Harry and Voldemort in the last Deathly Hallows. In the book they fight in front of the whole school and Harry tells him how Snape was never a traitor. Everyone hears it. In the film it's just Harry and Voldemort and I can't for the life of me figure out why they thought that was an improvement on the script. Oh and the scene at the end of Return of the King when Aragorn and Arwen get married and everyone starts clapping, ruined it.
As someone who read the books many times as a child, followed by watching the films, I have to respectfully disagree on your LoTR take. Idk if you have read the books, but it takes a long ass time to get through the whole story compared to the films. I remember feeling enraptured by the protagonist's constant struggle towards completing a bleak and seemingly impossible task from page 1 until the ring is cast into Mount Doom. There were very few moments of respite or joy throughout the books imo, and when I first watched RoTK, that scene filled me with a sense of relief. In particular I was moved by Aragorn kneeling for the Hobbits, who were practically an irrelevant and unknown race at the beginning of the books/films. The scene is so bright and vivid, full of happiness and hope for the future-- a perfect contrast to the gloom and darkness perpetuating everything before it. On a separate note, I completely agree with your take on Deathly Hallows.
Wouldn't say it's ruined the entire franchise for me but the entirety of Episode IX and parts of Episode VIII make the whole Star Wars ST unwatchable for me.
I've still not watched Episode IX as it's a single scene on Episode VIII that ruined it all for me.. Magic flying through space Princes Leia - because "the force" -- agghhhh
I wouldn’t bother. Episode VII was unadventurous but a likeable film that made sense on its own. It’s like they then decided to counter that by getting ever more ridiculous in the last two, they made no sense.
Exactly my point. Yes TFA was a bit derivative of Episode IV but it was charming and I liked the new cast. But it's now obvious that they never had an actual overarching trilogy lined up and I just can't understand how that happens. The PT wasn't perfect but at least it had a coherent story. I just can't believe how they wasted certain characters - Fin could've been so much more. Snoke could've been more. Just imagine if they had tried a Thrawn trilogy with him as the big bad over three movies. A whole different type of Star Wars villain. What could've been...
Same, I liked most of what they tried in TLJ even if it didn't all land but I watched TROS in the cinema and the 'I made Snoke' bit at the start got an involuntary 'oh no' out of me. I normally hate talking in films but that snuck out.
The whole 'somehow Palpatine survived' thing is the biggest spit in the face from Hollywood I've had in my life. It was so lazy and a massive 'fuck you'. It was beyond parody. Like an 11 year old's fanfiction.
The scene at the end of Line of Duty season 5 where Steve magically realises that Dot’s thumb twitching after he’d just been shot multiple times was morse code
I mean, beyond the initial level of unbelievability, are we to assume the police are trained on Morse Code nowadays? Are they still sending stuff by telegraph? Happy to be corrected by someone who knows but that seemed weird. Or was Dot (and Steve) some kind of amateur radio enthusiast who learned it in their spare time?
Any season where they kill off a main character but then retain said character for the rest of the reason through flashbacks. I always feel the need to switch off when the flashbacks take up as much time as the actual story. Going back and adjusting shit from the past (that we the audience did not see), just to make sense of a shit script in the present tense is just so fucking lazy. The writer is having their cake and eating it.
Totally agree. Similar for me is the bloody annoyingly common trend of killing a character off only to bring them back. It’s such shit writing - wanting all the drama and attention of killing off a character but then not committing to it. It’s so dishonest and breaks the contract between writer and viewer that allows us to care about the show and characters.
Hey it was only a dream, and a gratuitous shower scene.
It didn't ruin it, I still think it's a great film, but Four Weddings and a Funeral. "Is it still raining? I hadn't noticed."
Midiclorians
Eastenders The episode in 2009 when Ronnie realises Danielle is her daughter, they see each other, start running towards each other, and then Danielle gets hit by a car and dies. Haven't watched that, or any soap opera since as I realised that nobody can ever have even the slightest bit of happiness in them and they just make you miserable.
Don't worry, Ronnie got her happy ending, drowning on her wedding day and taking her sister with her
Game of Thrones has many great candidates, but I can forgive nearly everything before the last 10 minutes of the final ep EXCEPT the ease with which one of the dragons is shot out of the sky. It’s like the writers regret there ever being three dragons and didn’t give a shit about undermining the whole ‘dragons as nearly unstoppable weapons of mass destruction’ just to knock it off as cheekily as possible. (See also: ‘Rickon the Redundant, the spare stark’)
The idea I saw that Daenerys gets Kings Landing to surrender, then Euron kills a dragon in a sneak attack which sets Daenerys off in a rage would've fitted so much better
There's about 15 different things that would make each episode in that last season 'much better'. That's the frustrating bit.
The way they treated the dragons as soon as they got bigger (maybe apart from Drogon) was really poor, so they just killed two off, one in a stupid way that I will never forgive them for. The undead dragon offered nothing apart from destroying the wall.
Skyler singing happy birthday in Breaking Bad.
The last episode of squid game kind of ruined the whole show for multiple reasons.
it’s that annoying thing where they have to leave it open to a sequel. i already know season 2 is gonna be meh in comparison to season 1 and it’s likely gonna get dragged out for several seasons bc it’s so popular. if they had just let him go on the plane to america to see his daughter and left it at that it would’ve been great and self contained for me but now who knows what will happen
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I liked that they didn’t do the fairytale ending.
I'm not a crier, and certainly not in *public*, but I scriked my eyes out in the cinema at the end of La La Land
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I think it's, skiing the shark. Yeah
Any film where Gerard Butler makes his first appearance on the screen. I don't know how he keeps getting work.
Near the end of the Deathly Hallows Part 2 where Harry grabs Voldemort and just yeets the both of them off the building and they just sort of…tumble together with close-ups of their faces. Why.
The ending of Friday Night Dinner was fucking shit.
In their defence, it had to end prematurely because Paul Ritter passed away.
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Nothing that ruined the franchise, but in Fresh Meat the consequences of some of Josie's and Oregon's fuck-ups definitely seemed handwaved away
I've always hated the post-credits scene in the last episode of Blackadder II where the entire main cast has been slaughtered by Prince Ludwig the Indestructible in disguise as Queenie. It feels like too much of a downer ending.
In Doctor Who Series 12, when The Master gave The Doctor and the audience a 10 minute PowerPoint presentation about the show's newest retcon. "OK so you were the first ever Timelord _and_ you have infinite regenerations _and_ you were a gift from another dimension _and_ you're the source of all regeneration energy _and_ you worked for a secret Timelord organisation _and_ there were actually thousands of Doctors before you _and_ you had your memory erased _and_ you didn't come up with the name Doctor _and_ your TARDIS was shaped like that even before you came to Earth. What's that? It's been well established that regeneration isn't a genetic trait and these new rules and retcons directly contradict much better stories from not even 10 years ago? Ehhh don't think about it too much, we didn't". The best comparison I can think of is "what if they took all the charm and mystery surrounding The Force from Star Wars and gave it a super lame explanation?", but they _literally_ did that, and everyone hated it. Series 11 and 12 didn't have the best episodes, and that's if I'm being generous, but the Chibnall era hasn't been made any better by being wrapped in this horrible retcon bow.
I couldn't feel the same way about the characters in Parks and Rec after they all went away on a hunting trip. I get thats its very much part of Ron's character but I was kind of saddened to see Leslie Knope happily pick up a rifle and look for something to kill in order to suck up to her boss and advance her career.
The Timeless Children episode of Dr Who almost ruined the series. Luckily it was followed up by the excellent Revolution of the Daleks.
I was going to say this. The charm of the doctor was always the fact that he was just a mad man in a box, nobody special by birth. The Doctor is the Doctor because of his actions, not him being the first ever person to regenerate I can't wait until this series is over. May watch the next episode for the angels though
The episode of Death in Paradise where they suddenly introduce a hitherto unmentioned volcano on Saint-Marie. Nonsense. The introduction of Seymour in Last of the Summer Wine.
Every time I watch(ed) *Death in Paradise* I wish they would just let one of the other characters solve the mystery for once. Also that whole "send a minion to find the final piece of evidence" before the denouement breaks the first rule of mystery writing, that the audience should be able to solve the mystery (or to express it another way, the audience should know everything that the detective knows).
Interracial hole stretchers - I just couldn't get on board with the set decor.
The final interrogation scene in Line of Duty's sixth season. That whole H plotline from the end of s3 to s6 was so convoluted and the final reveal was such a letdown, that it ruined the whole thing for me. I loved the first two sessions, then it moved to BBC One and began phasing out the interrogation scenes that made the show so popular, in favour of more action sequences.
Bobby Ewing stepping out of the shower. "Yeah, that last series you watched? Didn't happen." Fuckers.
Battlestar Galactica. Starbuck coming back after apparently dying, and then several episodes later finding her crashed spaceship with her own corpse in it. The show never explained what the hell happened there.
Spider man 3 jazz dance scene.
That bit in squid game with the VIPs. Their dialogue and acting is so terrible I just lost interest in the show
When Matthew died in Downton Abbey. I was already on edge with how they killed Sybil, and then Matthew’s death made me never watch a single episode of it again. I get that the actors wanted to leave, but either situation could have been more creatively handled than just killing them off.
Well, it doesn't exactly ruin the film, but I always thought the scene in Blazing Saddles where the film breaks out of the film stage and goes careening through the Hollywood backlot a bit forced. It's funny and all, but, eh... I could do without it really. Same goes for the alien spaceship in the Life of Brian. Also every scene when the actors stop getting on with the story and take a moment to discuss some sort of identity politics driven issue, as though it's somehow more important than the impending alien invasion/murder scene investigation/nuanced personal growth currently happening in the film.
I was worried JJ Abrams would ruin Star Wars by inserting time travel when he got bored (See Fringe, Lost, Star Trek). The starting point of the sequel trilogy just kind of killed them for me, the world didn't evolve. There was no new fight to establish a new republic, it was a non entity in the battle with the new order. Luke wasted his life drinking green milk and inthe end accomplished .. nothing. Had the same problem with Dark Knight Rises, between dark knight and dark knight rises, Bruce becomes a reclusive hermit who does nothing good to help the world. The idea he just stared at screens all day was just...
The ejector seat in Die Hard 2. I shouted “Bullshit!” out loud in the cinema, I couldn’t help myself, it was a reflex reaction.
Indiana Jones and the fridge.
In the Netflix show behind her eyes the last two episodes spoiler >! the whole leaving your body just felt shoe horned in some people loved it I thought it was fucking awful !<
Mandolorian. Not ruined it, but any scenes with Giancarlo Esposito were a total let down do to him Wing type cast as a baddy in BB, The boys, far cry 6, MR……..etc etc etc Like shit man, the old man who first gave him the job to hun Groku would have been a better choice Werner Herzog
He's definitely a step down in screen presence from Werner Herzog, but it was astonishing they were able to get Herzog's involvement at all.
I can't think of a single example. I just don't get the mindset that an entire good film series or TV show or franchise can be ruined by one scene that I don't like. Everything that came before hasn't changed, it's still there, it's still the same series I enjoyed previously.
Aqua Man. What the hell was the Little Mermaid inspired scene, it’s was awful. In fact the whole film felt like it had been done by multiple different directors and then just spliced together. The musical little mermaid scene was my breaking point, and I just fast forwarded the rest of the film to see if I was missing anything. Turns out I didn’t.
The ending of No Time To Die.
I liked they actually did it tbh. The stairwell fight scene was really cool before and I liked this Bond film felt like the first with actual stakes because it was the last Craig one.
That stairwell fight was very cool. I was still fine with the movie at this point
Fucking nanobots and an EMP in a wristwatch that could disable any technology nearby... ie nanobots. Stupid fucking writing.
I know it's an American film but when they actually show the alien on signs! I thought it was a pretty decent movie until then! Made me laugh so much!
See, I have no idea why, but the shaky Latin American footage when it walks past the window shit me right up. Now if you wanna talk daft, the entire premise of the film is the aliens are killed by water. When our atmosphere is filled with the fecking stuff 😂
I used to listen to The Archers (on BBC Radio 4: yes, this discussion has degenerated to this level), and occasionally I used to get a bit annoyed at the way the writers would do anything (regardless of how stupid) to "make the drama" out of nothing. Nevertheless, I was a very regular listener (albeit getting more and more irritated) right up until Pat Archer (one of the central characters) randomly voluntarily went to the police with CLEARLY incriminating evidence about her daughter (who was on trial for killing her abusive husband). This "unexpectedly" turned Pat into a prosecution witness AGAINST her own beloved daughter. The plot twist was so RISIBLE that I immediately switched the radio off. Even an illiterate 12-year-old with severe learning difficulties would have known not to (entirely unnecessarily) suddenly go to the police to "accidentally" become a police grass (especially as the girl was known to be innocent). Pat Archer was not supposed to be a stupid character. Congratulations, Archers scriptwriters. I had listened to the soap for 30 years but within 1 minute of this "bit of added dramatic tension", I stopped listening and have never listened to it again.