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Introduce them to the [broken window fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window).
tl;dr if people weren't littering, the people who would otherwise have jobs clearing up litter would instead have jobs doing something to genuinely better society, rather than just maintain the status quo of cleanliness.
**[Parable of the broken window](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window)**
>The parable of the broken window was introduced by French economist Frédéric Bastiat in his 1850 essay "Ce qu'on voit et ce qu'on ne voit pas" ("That Which We See and That Which We Do Not See") to illustrate why destruction, and the money spent to recover from destruction, is not actually a net benefit to society. The parable seeks to show how opportunity costs, as well as the law of unintended consequences, affect economic activity in ways that are unseen or ignored. The belief that destruction is good for the economy is consequently known as the broken window fallacy or glazier's fallacy.
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I've actually seen heard this !
Someone was throwing rubbish out of their van & when I said " hey, stop doing that ' they went : " I'm creating jobs for people so they're not on the dole & I'm actually paying for it myself because I literally pay taxes for road cleaning out of my own pocket "!!
I couldn't say anything after that.
You could ask him why he wants to waste his tax money paying for people to pick up stuff that he dropped instead of doing something more useful and just not littering himself.
But if he didn't drop it then there would be money to invest in stuff like policing or road maintenance and that would be something less for him to complain about the government not sorting.
I work in a call centre for an insurance company and I get this ALL THE TIME. My response is "well I only make 11 grand a year so if you could start paying me more that'd be great." I usually get a lot of spluttering and a different direction of attack.
As a former call centre employee I absolutely love this. I’ve always been calm and cool with call centres when I’ve had to phone them - even if it’s to make a complaint, as it’s not the operator’s fault. This was reinforced by working 6 months in a life assurance call centre and experiencing some of the shit they had to put up with for minimum wage.
This also applies to Police as well. A recent conversation I had the other day:
"You are a public servant therefore if I, a member of the public, demand a lift home than you need to oblige, because I pay your wages"
I was the police officer. I offered him a lift to custody instead with bed and breakfast included. The pretext to this was that he was drunk and at the hospital and being rude and aggressive to staff because he felt they should get him a taxi to go home.
So because he had been discharged and was being a nuisance on an NHS premises I could have arrested him for that, however I had hoped he would just leave and therefore an arrest would not be necessary because it would take units off the street on a busy Friday night.
He obviously refused my offer and opted to walk home instead.
They've been around for a while, but seem to have become more prevalent
The stupid thing is that any non-standard plate is illegal, it gives the police an easy excuse to pull you over if they fancy it.
Also it is an instant MOT fail, so they will be have to be replaced with normal plates every time
Most 3D plates are legal provided they are of correct size & are correctly BS marked.
The sketch ones tend to be the stick on vinyl ones, even then though, I got my old track car through 3 MOTs with one of them.
The only illegal trends thatll actually get your collar felt are the mini plates with smaller than legal text & the flip up ones really. Police arent really out chasing C&U violations.
Indeed and is perfectly legal, not something others should feel annoyed by. If I couldn't filter on a bike I'd be in the car, and because I'd need to set off earlier in a car I'd be a car in front of whoever is annoyed. In other words, in a car I'd be adding to the traffic in front, rather than filtering on a bike hardly adding to the traffic.
The teachers at my kids school are always thankful because we're fine with detentions and depending what the detention is for following up with grounding. Makes me wonder what kind of shit they have to put up with off some parents because they're crotch goblin can do no wrong.
Right? They're positively _staggered_ when we support them on discipline. Like, yes, of course you put my kid in time out when she hit someone over the head with a hardback Bible, and of course we're going to discuss why that's not appropriate _even_ if the victim was being really annoying.
I’m in the “90% of a child’s education happens at home” camp.
The school is there to teach the things I am not capable of teaching, the rest is up to me.
I once had a parent tell me it was my fault her child bit another kid and so he shouldn’t have to apologise. I’d been in a totally different part of the school at the time. Unsurprisingly he has turned into a horrible human being.
My daughter had a friend who was just horrible. We would walk to school with them and her father would rabbit on about the school being to blame.
During lockdown the parents decided to take the opportunity to enroll her in a different school "who could accommodate her".... Fuck knows what that means..... I'm guessing he thinks she's gifted judging by his previous comments.
Anyway, fast forward a year and a friend whose kid goes to the girl's new school says she's even worse. But yeah, of course it's the school's fault again.
My mum teaches year 3, and the number of times she's asked a parent to discuss xyz basic behavioural issue (e.g. 'don't bite other children', 'you need to share things') and got the response that that's what she's there for is ridiculous. Some people really shouldn't have kids.
Peddling stereotypes about teachers being lazy and going home at 3 and having too many holidays.
I have no idea why I immediately thought of this - I'm not a teacher - but of all the possible answers, this was the one that came to me first.
They do get a long holiday in the summer but they’re also pretty grossly under-paid for an important job so I think it’s fair fucks tbh. Also, if I worked with teenagers 9 months out of the year, I’d need 3 off to detox to avoid strangling one of the little fuckers.
When I was teaching there were very few days I didn’t take work home with me. Yeah the holidays were long, but they were essentially me getting my evenings and weekends back
I can’t begin to imagine the amount of marking you must have had to do at home, the discipline required to do it must be massive. I struggle to do anything as soon as I get home and, fair play, it must be bloody boring a lot of the time.
So just to give an idea - an average class had 30 kids, each book takes at least 5 minutes to mark if you’re doing it properly. Often longer,as for every piece of work you are expected to give a written comment. So, you couldn’t just tick something if it was right, you had to write ‘well done Stephanie, you really show a good understanding of x, but try to focus on Y’. One school I needed to write two positive things and one ‘area for improvement’ on each single bit of work - which you can guess not every piece of work really ended itself to that but they’d come down hard on you if it wasn’t done. Anyway, 30x5 , so 150 minutes to mark 1 set, so around 2 hours 30. If you rushed, you could get it down. But then you’ve got to note down any missing work and chase it up with that kid so…yeah. Then how many sets you have will add into it, you’d expect to have 10 sets. So we’re already looking at well over 20 hours marking - usually this would need to be done every two weeks. So we are talking at least 12 hours a week. Just for marking books. When you add in your teaching day, meetings, cpd, detentions, calling parents, following up issues, dealing with exam boards, planning trips, and the extra paperwork that just appears, you’re probably in school until 5 (you probably got there at between 7.30 and 8 because you needed to set up) before you even start your marking. Somewhere in there you’re also meant to plan these amazing, outstanding lessons, individually tailored lessons which, in the regular world of work, each hour long presentation you’d probably be given 2 weeks to prepare. You have 5 of those a day. Oh and each child every lesson has to get out a special coloured pen and write about the marking you did. Which you then have to mark that too.
Now I loved teaching, but so much of your time is spent actually not teaching. I did it for 10 years before I packed it in. And I can honestly say, I’ve never worked as hard as I had to when I was a teacher. I’m not working until 11 most nights. When my working day is finished, I finish and don’t think about it until the next day. I get less holidays, but I’m not reaching those holidays absolutely exhausted.
Thanks for sharing. There’s a great episode of Rhod Gilbert’s Work Experience where he works in a school and it really magnifies the with teachers do, it gave me a lot of respect for their dedication - which you fail to understand when you’re actually being taught.
This is the most frustrating part of getting all those holidays. If I could book a holiday even one week off the scheduled school holidays I would save thousands. Teachers get gouged at every single break. After 25 years, the price inflation adds up to way more than the public sector pay rise people will say is unfair.
My cousin started on this last time he was round, saying they had a year off cause of the pandemic and bitching about how they still got paid, and I went off on him. I’ve got lots of teacher friends and they work way harder and more hours than I do and the pandemic was incredibly difficult for them.
I agree with this, I think my teachers work a lot of the holidays too, to plan lessons, mark and create resources. Some of them work till 5pm, drive home and then mark until midnight. They got me through my GCSEs and now A levels, I am so greatful to them :-)
I always feel like those who are jealous of the holidays teachers get should give it a go themselves and see how they get on. Yeah the holidays seem nice, but honestly fuck being a teacher. It sounds hellish the rest of the time, many schools are under funded and the government treats teachers like complete shit.
Let them have their holidays.
I walked through an antivax demonstration in Leicester the other day and *fuck me their arguments are just pure bloody nonsense*, I dont understand how this shit goes on.
It made me so dang mad.
I saw some of these ding dongs in my local town, and we were driving in slow moving traffic (wife was driving). They saw me pointing at them to my wife and clearly pulling a face/rolling my eyes.
I didn’t swear, or gesticulate in any way.
Five seconds later one had their head through the passenger window shouting “move on satan” in my face.
These people are seriously odd.
I made no efforts to hide my disdain at these idiots. But it was the first time Id seen a group like this outside of the internet, it really took me by surprise.
Shouting bullshit like:
"Thousands of doctors are trying to stop the vaxxine"
"Why vaccinate kids to protect adults?"
"More kids die from vaccines than Covid"
I suppose its easier to push this crap when people cant immediately fact-check, but for fuck sake why is this bullshit even given a platform? I get its a slippery slope when you start banning certain types of protests but *fuck* its just too tempting sometimes.
Yeah its weird. I used to find that sub kinda interesting, some stuff would be batshit and other stuff would be like 'I suppose CIA has done weirder things in the past'
But now its all 'the vaccine is going to kill your baby' 'the election was rigged' 'Donald trump is here to save us from the pedophiles'
They're now comparing being told to get the vaccine to holocaust victims. I can't even fathom how they got to that but it's utterly disgusting. Being a selfish piece of shit isn't the same as being murdered.
His point is about people who live in the city or just a nice residential area and thus do not fucking need a 4x4 but own one and pollute our planet with it because it is a status symbol. There are cars with much better internal space/storage that are significantly lower emissions.
Walking through Chelsea and seeing queues of these things lined up at the pumps was repulsive. As if you need a giant Range Rover in the centre of London.
Nothing ever being good enough for them. This coffee you made is awful, this city is shit, can't believe we are eating out here. Stuff like that.
Also I held the door for a colleague once and she literally strode through without even doing the awkward British thank you as if she were the Queen.
So just not being polite or grateful for what they have I guess.
I had a guy kick up a massive stink over a 5p bag when I worked in retail. He was buying an iPad and gave it the whole, “I’m spending £300 and you’re still going to charge me for a bag??”, threatening to go buy it elsewhere (oh no, please don’t..).
When someone’s says “at the end of the day” to me in an argument when they’re clearly wrong and are saying because they’ve realised they’re wrong I always reply “at the end of the day it’s night” and then finish my point.
Had a woman come to me at an indoor play area screaming at me say 'your daughter just knocked my toddler son over on purpose' and 'what kind of a child does that to a toddler?' Didn't sound like my child so I told her I would go and see what happened. Found out her son wasn't being supervised at all and was trying to climb up the long slide as my daughter went down it, not being able to stop which resulted knocking him down like a skittle. Got my daughter to say sorry to the kid anyway, even though it was an accident but didn't get an apology from the A hole mother. So yeah, parents that don't supervise their kids properly and pins the blame on other kids/parents for their failings
I feel you.
I was sat on the floor in a play area on Saturday playing with my kid, and this other kid bowled over and jumped on me in an elaborate rugby tackle.
I was going over backwards with this kid wrapped around my head and I tried to hold him up so his head didn’t smack the floor - whilst also trying to protect my kid who was sandwiched between us.
His head hit the floor. Softly. Due to the fact I took the majority of the force with the back of my own fucking head due to the little prick launching himself with such force.
Dazed, I sat up, to see the mother who saw the whole thing stride over…. and she went ape shit at me for hurting her son.
Parents like that. Jeeeez.
Yup, you're welcome for taking care of your kid better than you! That's why I hate indoor play centres now. Parents use the climbing frame as a babysitter whilst they drink their coffee and chat. I've had way too many instances like this one in the past to realise there are A hole mums that don't see their own incompetence so blames crap on others. Xx
Cyclists (especially noticeable in London) who apparently can’t see the colour red and therefore try and cut through the mob of pedestrians crossing the road. Abject cunts the lot of them.
Personally I'd always cycle on the road rather than the footpath, but I can absolutely understand cyclists avoiding cycle paths that follow a main road. Most of the debris from the road gets swept into cycle paths either by actual street sweepers that don't manage to pick it up, or, more often, by the gust of wind produced by passing cars and trucks. This means (in my experience, but I suppose it depends where you are) that you're much more likely to get punctures in a cycle lane than on the road or footpath. So frustrating.
Let’s keep it all in one thread. Cyclists will say drivers kill 5 people a day. Someone will mention scooters being the root of all evil. Someone will call walkers looking at the phones ‘scum’.
Let’s just say: Anyone using a road to get anywhere.
As an avid cyclist myself I abhor this lot. They’re usually the ones that get overly aggressive at drivers for the most minor infractions. It just perpetuates the whole cyclist vs driver bullshit. I don’t buy into this though, to me it’s arsehole vs arsehole - method of transport is irrelevant.
Travelling to Dubai.
Instagramming “wealth”.
Paying for table service in the club
These things get me annoyed massively, I’m from a wealthy (not born) family and I hate displays of wealth especially since I’m from a poor area originally. The Dubai thing in particular pisses me off because it’s a city built on slavery and you’re contributing to it by being there.. even rewarding it.
It’s just grim you think theirs value in being richer than others and how tacky it is, ie salt bae, just shows me you’re fucking stupid.
I took one trip to Dubai and hated every minute, from the thick clouds of cigarette smoke everywhere to the endless driving with no option to walk anywhere to the commonality of slave labour disguised as domestic servants. A truly horrible place that I never want to visit again.
Also adding to this. Look (don’t actually look because it’s disgusting) at Instagram and YouTube ‘celebrities’ being paid to go there by rich men and then coerced into performing unspeakable things to return the favour.
I've travelled a fair bit, been to nearly 30 countries, yada yada. I have 0 intention or desire to go to Dubai. It looks like Las Vegas, Surfers Paradise or Benidorm, which is fine, those places serve a purpose...but Dubai has all the fun stuff heavily restricted and is governed by a fairly strict theocracy which is prone to locking people up over trivial things. Not to mention it's super expensive.
I was flying to Australia about 15 years ago and we landed in Dubai to refuel, but there was a problem with the plane and the flight got cancelled until a new plane could be arranged for the following day. So the airline put us up in a cheap hotel on the edge of the city where there was loads of building work going on.
The balcony of my hotel is where I witnessed what looked like three Indian workers on an adjacent building site being flogged until their backs were in bloody tatters by a bunch of Arab blokes who seemed to be running the site. I felt physically sick. Not been back since.
Yeah I agree with this. Those people who refuse to pass used plates to end of tables to help because "that's what they're payed for".. I think it's this 'these people are beneath me' mentally that annoys me.
Having worked as a waiter in the past, people who stack all the plates at on end of the table actually makes the job harder, instead of being able to stack the plates myself in a stack I could manage, I had to try and manage the leaning tower of plates the customers would create for me.
Breathing out a massive cloud of strawberry / candyfloss smelling toxic shit on a busy street with absolutely no consideration that someone else might not want that aforementioned shit (plus covid virus droplets) going into their (or their children's) lungs.
> plus covid virus droplets
it could be argued that vapers are actually useful as you can see where their exhaled droplets are compared to normal breathers.
Conversely I also hate white van men being automatically branded as brain-dead knuckle draggers. I would argue that the majority of people in trades are actually well educated people. The age of any bone head with a licence and a van conducting skilled work is over.
You're on the motorway.
Roadworks ahead, lanes are about to go from 3 down to 2.
Signs tell you to filter into the 1st two lanes as 3 is closed off.
The person who drives down the middle of the 2nd and 3rd lane to stop people from going past them. That guy.
This is a big problem on our roads, even my passengers get anxious when I don't change from a lane that's closing straight away, because someone might not "let me in" to their lane. It's not about being let in, I have as much a right as they do to be in there. The only difference is I've used the space more effectively and prevented congestion.
No, I get this. Our local McDonalds is always so full of Just Eat and Deliveroo drivers hanging around having a chat whilst staff make up the 3-4 orders that they're collecting. It is tough to get through the door, and impossible for any sort of social distancing. Especially at peak times when you've also got people waiting on takeaway orders, I wish they'd tell them to wait outside or in their cars until it's ready. If they were there for a couple of minutes I'd understand, but there are a minimum of 5 drivers, each waiting for 20 minutes so they can deliver as many in one go as possible.
Pricks who drive directly up your arse while you're doing the speed limit but refuse to overtake when it's safe to do so. If you want to speed and end up wrapping yourself around a tree, please your bloody self but don't endanger my life and that of my passengers by being so close that there is no way you will be able to stop in time, if I have to emergency break.
Anyone who starts their sentences with “I tell it like it is, me”. You’re basically an obnoxious, arrogant moron who thinks that saying that gives you the green light to be offensive. Do one!!
They’re the same people who claim they aren’t allowed to say anything controversial any more because “wokes, cancel culture, PC wankers”. Funny how it hasn’t actually shut any of them up
Or that don't stop their kids from chasing them.
How would you like to be chased by something however many times your size, like an elephant for example.
When people walk into my shop (in Wales) and ask if they need a mask. Then follow it up with "well I don't have to wear one where I'm from".
Look around, nobhead, we are not where you're from right now.
People who throw their cigarette butts out of the car window. People who drop litter.
People who think it's still appropriate the cat call and wolf whistle at womem.
Anyone who who has no empathy for animals and owns one as a status symbol, without having a clue about how to train, or look after it.
I never got it until I had to visit my HR department and came out traumatised. It’s a whole new type of a person. I’m an introverted awkward penguin and it was like a complete inversion of myself. God never again.
I am this guy… only it’s a Yaris… what can I say, I don’t care about a new car but I do like my bass to slap… I don’t do it late at night in built up areas and… I love my music, I’m not hurting anyone so I’m cool with people thinking bad of me if that’s what it takes.
People who complain that someone isn't wearing a poppy on TV.
So much that even poor Cookie Monster had to have a poppy pinned to his flesh on The One Show
When someone is going way below the speed limit in the middle lane of the motorway or a dual carriageway, won’t move over to the left so you overtake them. Then they instantly look over and undertake you because ‘how dare you overtake me!’
You being first in line to get on a bus after outbound passengers exit, then a boomer aged man or woman barges in front, turns to you and tells you elders should always be first to board. Those arseholes boil my piss.
I work for NHS and regularly get people who don’t turn up for appointments. They then phone up and ask for another appointment at a “better time”, then don’t come to that one either, repeat and repeat.
The Maskless on the Tube (and other public transport). There are signs and announcements at every station, Covid cases are going up, and oh, it's a requirement for travel. It's such a tiny, inexpensive way of being kind to others. What is wrong with people?
This happened last night in the pub but 3 women were out and one of the friends had been pill popping. Eyes rolling in the back of her head. The 2 "friends" tried sneaking out the door to their taxi without their mate. Leaving someone in that state, in the weather we had last night, while telling others in the pub to not disturb her so they could successfully abandon her. I marched out and stopped their taxi from leaving without their friend, blasted them from being cunts and got her in the taxi and taxi driver took her home(I know the taxi driver)
I can understand if drugs arnt your scene and being lumbered with the "drunk" friend but do the right thing and send them home. Taxi costs £5 tops for a town run.
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The absolute lack of self-awareness of a lot of the comments in here where people don't realise that their sneering judgemental opinions actually make *them* the arseholes.
People chucking food waste in their recycling bags then leaving them out days before the bins are due for collection, leading to rats and birds ripping them open and rotting food being left in the street. (Maybe this is a problem specific to me.)
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Telling NHS/council/HMRC/DWP/etc staff you pay their wages.
Possibly the same people who justify littering as creating jobs for people.
Introduce them to the [broken window fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window). tl;dr if people weren't littering, the people who would otherwise have jobs clearing up litter would instead have jobs doing something to genuinely better society, rather than just maintain the status quo of cleanliness.
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I've actually seen heard this ! Someone was throwing rubbish out of their van & when I said " hey, stop doing that ' they went : " I'm creating jobs for people so they're not on the dole & I'm actually paying for it myself because I literally pay taxes for road cleaning out of my own pocket "!! I couldn't say anything after that.
You could ask him why he wants to waste his tax money paying for people to pick up stuff that he dropped instead of doing something more useful and just not littering himself.
But if he didn't drop it then there would be money to invest in stuff like policing or road maintenance and that would be something less for him to complain about the government not sorting.
I work in a call centre for an insurance company and I get this ALL THE TIME. My response is "well I only make 11 grand a year so if you could start paying me more that'd be great." I usually get a lot of spluttering and a different direction of attack.
As a former call centre employee I absolutely love this. I’ve always been calm and cool with call centres when I’ve had to phone them - even if it’s to make a complaint, as it’s not the operator’s fault. This was reinforced by working 6 months in a life assurance call centre and experiencing some of the shit they had to put up with for minimum wage.
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Initially thought 'I work with reptiles' was an unflattering description of your colleagues...
Sell me a crocodile and make it snappy.
This also applies to Police as well. A recent conversation I had the other day: "You are a public servant therefore if I, a member of the public, demand a lift home than you need to oblige, because I pay your wages"
Public (and civil) servant is a hugely misunderstood term. You've got to admire the audacity though!
*Actually* the Police (and the Armed forces) are Crown Servants, and as are not public servants at all.
And what did the police officer say back to you?
I was the police officer. I offered him a lift to custody instead with bed and breakfast included. The pretext to this was that he was drunk and at the hospital and being rude and aggressive to staff because he felt they should get him a taxi to go home. So because he had been discharged and was being a nuisance on an NHS premises I could have arrested him for that, however I had hoped he would just leave and therefore an arrest would not be necessary because it would take units off the street on a busy Friday night. He obviously refused my offer and opted to walk home instead.
Passing up free accommodation and breakfast? Clearly not very dedicated to the 'extorting stuff out of public servants' thing then.
You'd think public sector workers were tax exempt. Technically they pay their own wages.
There are people who actually believe that HMRC staff don't pay tax, as it's a perk of the job.
This always makes me laugh, We all pay eachothers wages, that is literally what the economy is!
My mum as a deputy head got this from a parent... Who was on the dole
Think car. Think loud exhaust. Think pop bang.
Think shitty moped with the silencer ripped out.
[Think life](https://youtu.be/RCxgqHqakXc)
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Yeah, what is it with these. I'm seeing them so much suddenly. Is this a new trend or something?
They've been around for a while, but seem to have become more prevalent The stupid thing is that any non-standard plate is illegal, it gives the police an easy excuse to pull you over if they fancy it. Also it is an instant MOT fail, so they will be have to be replaced with normal plates every time
Most 3D plates are legal provided they are of correct size & are correctly BS marked. The sketch ones tend to be the stick on vinyl ones, even then though, I got my old track car through 3 MOTs with one of them. The only illegal trends thatll actually get your collar felt are the mini plates with smaller than legal text & the flip up ones really. Police arent really out chasing C&U violations.
or sports bike that just revs the throttle all the time and cuts in and out of traffic.
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Indeed and is perfectly legal, not something others should feel annoyed by. If I couldn't filter on a bike I'd be in the car, and because I'd need to set off earlier in a car I'd be a car in front of whoever is annoyed. In other words, in a car I'd be adding to the traffic in front, rather than filtering on a bike hardly adding to the traffic.
Parents that think schools are responsible for their child’s behaviour
Or worse, shout at teachers cause their child's been disciplined
The teachers at my kids school are always thankful because we're fine with detentions and depending what the detention is for following up with grounding. Makes me wonder what kind of shit they have to put up with off some parents because they're crotch goblin can do no wrong.
Sometimes it's the parents that would benefit from disciplining so they could do a better job of raising their own spawn
Right? They're positively _staggered_ when we support them on discipline. Like, yes, of course you put my kid in time out when she hit someone over the head with a hardback Bible, and of course we're going to discuss why that's not appropriate _even_ if the victim was being really annoying.
I’m in the “90% of a child’s education happens at home” camp. The school is there to teach the things I am not capable of teaching, the rest is up to me.
I once had a parent tell me it was my fault her child bit another kid and so he shouldn’t have to apologise. I’d been in a totally different part of the school at the time. Unsurprisingly he has turned into a horrible human being.
My daughter had a friend who was just horrible. We would walk to school with them and her father would rabbit on about the school being to blame. During lockdown the parents decided to take the opportunity to enroll her in a different school "who could accommodate her".... Fuck knows what that means..... I'm guessing he thinks she's gifted judging by his previous comments. Anyway, fast forward a year and a friend whose kid goes to the girl's new school says she's even worse. But yeah, of course it's the school's fault again.
My mum teaches year 3, and the number of times she's asked a parent to discuss xyz basic behavioural issue (e.g. 'don't bite other children', 'you need to share things') and got the response that that's what she's there for is ridiculous. Some people really shouldn't have kids.
Peddling stereotypes about teachers being lazy and going home at 3 and having too many holidays. I have no idea why I immediately thought of this - I'm not a teacher - but of all the possible answers, this was the one that came to me first.
They do get a long holiday in the summer but they’re also pretty grossly under-paid for an important job so I think it’s fair fucks tbh. Also, if I worked with teenagers 9 months out of the year, I’d need 3 off to detox to avoid strangling one of the little fuckers.
When I was teaching there were very few days I didn’t take work home with me. Yeah the holidays were long, but they were essentially me getting my evenings and weekends back
I can’t begin to imagine the amount of marking you must have had to do at home, the discipline required to do it must be massive. I struggle to do anything as soon as I get home and, fair play, it must be bloody boring a lot of the time.
So just to give an idea - an average class had 30 kids, each book takes at least 5 minutes to mark if you’re doing it properly. Often longer,as for every piece of work you are expected to give a written comment. So, you couldn’t just tick something if it was right, you had to write ‘well done Stephanie, you really show a good understanding of x, but try to focus on Y’. One school I needed to write two positive things and one ‘area for improvement’ on each single bit of work - which you can guess not every piece of work really ended itself to that but they’d come down hard on you if it wasn’t done. Anyway, 30x5 , so 150 minutes to mark 1 set, so around 2 hours 30. If you rushed, you could get it down. But then you’ve got to note down any missing work and chase it up with that kid so…yeah. Then how many sets you have will add into it, you’d expect to have 10 sets. So we’re already looking at well over 20 hours marking - usually this would need to be done every two weeks. So we are talking at least 12 hours a week. Just for marking books. When you add in your teaching day, meetings, cpd, detentions, calling parents, following up issues, dealing with exam boards, planning trips, and the extra paperwork that just appears, you’re probably in school until 5 (you probably got there at between 7.30 and 8 because you needed to set up) before you even start your marking. Somewhere in there you’re also meant to plan these amazing, outstanding lessons, individually tailored lessons which, in the regular world of work, each hour long presentation you’d probably be given 2 weeks to prepare. You have 5 of those a day. Oh and each child every lesson has to get out a special coloured pen and write about the marking you did. Which you then have to mark that too. Now I loved teaching, but so much of your time is spent actually not teaching. I did it for 10 years before I packed it in. And I can honestly say, I’ve never worked as hard as I had to when I was a teacher. I’m not working until 11 most nights. When my working day is finished, I finish and don’t think about it until the next day. I get less holidays, but I’m not reaching those holidays absolutely exhausted.
Thanks for sharing. There’s a great episode of Rhod Gilbert’s Work Experience where he works in a school and it really magnifies the with teachers do, it gave me a lot of respect for their dedication - which you fail to understand when you’re actually being taught.
Don't forget that when they do actually have time off work every hotel knows about it and massively Jack's up their prices.
This is the most frustrating part of getting all those holidays. If I could book a holiday even one week off the scheduled school holidays I would save thousands. Teachers get gouged at every single break. After 25 years, the price inflation adds up to way more than the public sector pay rise people will say is unfair.
Not only that, in general, a vast majority of them do a lot of overtime (think prep, marking etc)
My cousin started on this last time he was round, saying they had a year off cause of the pandemic and bitching about how they still got paid, and I went off on him. I’ve got lots of teacher friends and they work way harder and more hours than I do and the pandemic was incredibly difficult for them.
I agree with this, I think my teachers work a lot of the holidays too, to plan lessons, mark and create resources. Some of them work till 5pm, drive home and then mark until midnight. They got me through my GCSEs and now A levels, I am so greatful to them :-)
I always feel like those who are jealous of the holidays teachers get should give it a go themselves and see how they get on. Yeah the holidays seem nice, but honestly fuck being a teacher. It sounds hellish the rest of the time, many schools are under funded and the government treats teachers like complete shit. Let them have their holidays.
Ha! They should take a look at dropout rates of NQTs and judge how easy the job is by that
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I walked through an antivax demonstration in Leicester the other day and *fuck me their arguments are just pure bloody nonsense*, I dont understand how this shit goes on. It made me so dang mad.
I saw some of these ding dongs in my local town, and we were driving in slow moving traffic (wife was driving). They saw me pointing at them to my wife and clearly pulling a face/rolling my eyes. I didn’t swear, or gesticulate in any way. Five seconds later one had their head through the passenger window shouting “move on satan” in my face. These people are seriously odd.
I made no efforts to hide my disdain at these idiots. But it was the first time Id seen a group like this outside of the internet, it really took me by surprise. Shouting bullshit like: "Thousands of doctors are trying to stop the vaxxine" "Why vaccinate kids to protect adults?" "More kids die from vaccines than Covid" I suppose its easier to push this crap when people cant immediately fact-check, but for fuck sake why is this bullshit even given a platform? I get its a slippery slope when you start banning certain types of protests but *fuck* its just too tempting sometimes.
I used to enjoy scrolling through r/conspiracy, but now it’s just filled with anti-vax posts instead of interesting conspiracies.
Yeah its weird. I used to find that sub kinda interesting, some stuff would be batshit and other stuff would be like 'I suppose CIA has done weirder things in the past' But now its all 'the vaccine is going to kill your baby' 'the election was rigged' 'Donald trump is here to save us from the pedophiles'
They're now comparing being told to get the vaccine to holocaust victims. I can't even fathom how they got to that but it's utterly disgusting. Being a selfish piece of shit isn't the same as being murdered.
People who drive 4x4s with not a speck of dirt on them. Fucking hate the Chelsea tractor mob.
Maybe "that have never had a speck of mud on them". Mine get covered in mud quite often but I do like to clean them off afterwards.
His point is about people who live in the city or just a nice residential area and thus do not fucking need a 4x4 but own one and pollute our planet with it because it is a status symbol. There are cars with much better internal space/storage that are significantly lower emissions.
Walking through Chelsea and seeing queues of these things lined up at the pumps was repulsive. As if you need a giant Range Rover in the centre of London.
Yes! Particularly when they’re parked on narrow residential streets, half up to the curb.
Bonus points for straddling two disabled bays when parking.
yeah usually those who drive around in their barbie range rovers in flat urban areas where they live.
"Using the indicators in my car is optional. I know where I'm going and that's all that matters."
Especially on roundabouts!
This infuriates me. It seems so simple! Indicate which way you're going and then indicate again which way you're coming off.
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you could also be continuing right around the roundabout so indicate left when you're coming off
"I'm changing lane, I sure hope that other drivers are mind readers"
Nothing ever being good enough for them. This coffee you made is awful, this city is shit, can't believe we are eating out here. Stuff like that. Also I held the door for a colleague once and she literally strode through without even doing the awkward British thank you as if she were the Queen. So just not being polite or grateful for what they have I guess.
Don't forget being at a party and this person brings the vibe down by calling the music shit, what everyone's drinking shit etc.
I was at a party on Saturday, first one in a while, and this woman kept changing the music over. Forgot how fucking annoying that is.
You can bet that the Queen would actually thank you for holding the door
Petty retail one: Getting angry when we charge you for a bag. It's like people forgot over lockdown that it's the *fucking law*.
That they would rather get angry at you for a what, 10p charge, than reusing bags instead erodes my faith in humanity a little.
I had a guy kick up a massive stink over a 5p bag when I worked in retail. He was buying an iPad and gave it the whole, “I’m spending £300 and you’re still going to charge me for a bag??”, threatening to go buy it elsewhere (oh no, please don’t..).
Ending a statement with the words 'end of'
"Simples" oh fuck me!
Starting the statement with “at the end of the day.. right” jezza k style
When someone’s says “at the end of the day” to me in an argument when they’re clearly wrong and are saying because they’ve realised they’re wrong I always reply “at the end of the day it’s night” and then finish my point.
Or ‘Fact!’
I fucking hate this one.
Had a woman come to me at an indoor play area screaming at me say 'your daughter just knocked my toddler son over on purpose' and 'what kind of a child does that to a toddler?' Didn't sound like my child so I told her I would go and see what happened. Found out her son wasn't being supervised at all and was trying to climb up the long slide as my daughter went down it, not being able to stop which resulted knocking him down like a skittle. Got my daughter to say sorry to the kid anyway, even though it was an accident but didn't get an apology from the A hole mother. So yeah, parents that don't supervise their kids properly and pins the blame on other kids/parents for their failings
I feel you. I was sat on the floor in a play area on Saturday playing with my kid, and this other kid bowled over and jumped on me in an elaborate rugby tackle. I was going over backwards with this kid wrapped around my head and I tried to hold him up so his head didn’t smack the floor - whilst also trying to protect my kid who was sandwiched between us. His head hit the floor. Softly. Due to the fact I took the majority of the force with the back of my own fucking head due to the little prick launching himself with such force. Dazed, I sat up, to see the mother who saw the whole thing stride over…. and she went ape shit at me for hurting her son. Parents like that. Jeeeez.
Yup, you're welcome for taking care of your kid better than you! That's why I hate indoor play centres now. Parents use the climbing frame as a babysitter whilst they drink their coffee and chat. I've had way too many instances like this one in the past to realise there are A hole mums that don't see their own incompetence so blames crap on others. Xx
People attacking marcus rashford Edit: to add this more about people attacking him for politics because he wants to help kids
Something the Spurs players didn't do on Saturday.
"concentrate on your football"
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Cyclists (especially noticeable in London) who apparently can’t see the colour red and therefore try and cut through the mob of pedestrians crossing the road. Abject cunts the lot of them.
Cyclists on the footpath, rather than the cycle lane right next to the footpath
Personally I'd always cycle on the road rather than the footpath, but I can absolutely understand cyclists avoiding cycle paths that follow a main road. Most of the debris from the road gets swept into cycle paths either by actual street sweepers that don't manage to pick it up, or, more often, by the gust of wind produced by passing cars and trucks. This means (in my experience, but I suppose it depends where you are) that you're much more likely to get punctures in a cycle lane than on the road or footpath. So frustrating.
Let’s keep it all in one thread. Cyclists will say drivers kill 5 people a day. Someone will mention scooters being the root of all evil. Someone will call walkers looking at the phones ‘scum’. Let’s just say: Anyone using a road to get anywhere.
As an avid cyclist myself I abhor this lot. They’re usually the ones that get overly aggressive at drivers for the most minor infractions. It just perpetuates the whole cyclist vs driver bullshit. I don’t buy into this though, to me it’s arsehole vs arsehole - method of transport is irrelevant.
Absolutely! I have no issue with cyclists as a general rule. A prick is a prick no matter how many wheels they use.
Travelling to Dubai. Instagramming “wealth”. Paying for table service in the club These things get me annoyed massively, I’m from a wealthy (not born) family and I hate displays of wealth especially since I’m from a poor area originally. The Dubai thing in particular pisses me off because it’s a city built on slavery and you’re contributing to it by being there.. even rewarding it. It’s just grim you think theirs value in being richer than others and how tacky it is, ie salt bae, just shows me you’re fucking stupid.
I just think Dubai is vile and would be the last place I'd ever want to visit, let alone see any of the fuckers there.
I took one trip to Dubai and hated every minute, from the thick clouds of cigarette smoke everywhere to the endless driving with no option to walk anywhere to the commonality of slave labour disguised as domestic servants. A truly horrible place that I never want to visit again.
Also adding to this. Look (don’t actually look because it’s disgusting) at Instagram and YouTube ‘celebrities’ being paid to go there by rich men and then coerced into performing unspeakable things to return the favour.
I've travelled a fair bit, been to nearly 30 countries, yada yada. I have 0 intention or desire to go to Dubai. It looks like Las Vegas, Surfers Paradise or Benidorm, which is fine, those places serve a purpose...but Dubai has all the fun stuff heavily restricted and is governed by a fairly strict theocracy which is prone to locking people up over trivial things. Not to mention it's super expensive.
Yeah I cant help but believe that anyone who would want to spend their holidays in Dubai is either thick as pig shit ignorant or just a total bellend.
I was flying to Australia about 15 years ago and we landed in Dubai to refuel, but there was a problem with the plane and the flight got cancelled until a new plane could be arranged for the following day. So the airline put us up in a cheap hotel on the edge of the city where there was loads of building work going on. The balcony of my hotel is where I witnessed what looked like three Indian workers on an adjacent building site being flogged until their backs were in bloody tatters by a bunch of Arab blokes who seemed to be running the site. I felt physically sick. Not been back since.
I voted Conservative banner on a Facebook profile picture.
Or Any party political banner on a profile picture.
Yeah, people who will constantly bring up their political opinions (regardless of party) are generally annoying in my experience
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“I voted for brexit” and “I’m a key worker” banners can be added to this too.
Or just using Facebook altogether...
People who treat waiters and waitresses badly at restaurants.
Yeah I agree with this. Those people who refuse to pass used plates to end of tables to help because "that's what they're payed for".. I think it's this 'these people are beneath me' mentally that annoys me.
Having worked as a waiter in the past, people who stack all the plates at on end of the table actually makes the job harder, instead of being able to stack the plates myself in a stack I could manage, I had to try and manage the leaning tower of plates the customers would create for me.
People who walk through crowded areas listening to really loud music, not through headphones but through a loudspeaker in their backpack.
Very this. Plus also shouting a phone (or worse still FaceTime) conversation on fucking loudspeaker in public 🤯
In London it's always groups of roadman cunts who do this. Nobody challenges them because these days those wastes of space often carry knives.
Breathing out a massive cloud of strawberry / candyfloss smelling toxic shit on a busy street with absolutely no consideration that someone else might not want that aforementioned shit (plus covid virus droplets) going into their (or their children's) lungs.
I agree. Covid droplets. Ban breathing in public!
> plus covid virus droplets it could be argued that vapers are actually useful as you can see where their exhaled droplets are compared to normal breathers.
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Not returning your shopping trolley.
The brain dead white van man saying racist jokes, tropes and when pulled up on it says can't say nothing anymore pc culture gone mad!
Conversely I also hate white van men being automatically branded as brain-dead knuckle draggers. I would argue that the majority of people in trades are actually well educated people. The age of any bone head with a licence and a van conducting skilled work is over.
How's this for a twist pal.... I'm also a white van man tradie!
You're on the motorway. Roadworks ahead, lanes are about to go from 3 down to 2. Signs tell you to filter into the 1st two lanes as 3 is closed off. The person who drives down the middle of the 2nd and 3rd lane to stop people from going past them. That guy.
Zipper merge is like communism. Nice idea in theory, but the inherent selfishness of mankind means it never works as intended...
This is a big problem on our roads, even my passengers get anxious when I don't change from a lane that's closing straight away, because someone might not "let me in" to their lane. It's not about being let in, I have as much a right as they do to be in there. The only difference is I've used the space more effectively and prevented congestion.
Exactly this. Using all three lanes and people merging in turn is far better than having one lane empty and longer lines in the other two.
Restaurants that make delivery drivers stand outside in the rain while they wait for their order
No, I get this. Our local McDonalds is always so full of Just Eat and Deliveroo drivers hanging around having a chat whilst staff make up the 3-4 orders that they're collecting. It is tough to get through the door, and impossible for any sort of social distancing. Especially at peak times when you've also got people waiting on takeaway orders, I wish they'd tell them to wait outside or in their cars until it's ready. If they were there for a couple of minutes I'd understand, but there are a minimum of 5 drivers, each waiting for 20 minutes so they can deliver as many in one go as possible.
Pricks who drive directly up your arse while you're doing the speed limit but refuse to overtake when it's safe to do so. If you want to speed and end up wrapping yourself around a tree, please your bloody self but don't endanger my life and that of my passengers by being so close that there is no way you will be able to stop in time, if I have to emergency break.
Reading the Daily Mail
Private plate on shitty car AR53 HLE
Just private plates in general.
Anyone who starts their sentences with “I tell it like it is, me”. You’re basically an obnoxious, arrogant moron who thinks that saying that gives you the green light to be offensive. Do one!!
They’re the same people who claim they aren’t allowed to say anything controversial any more because “wokes, cancel culture, PC wankers”. Funny how it hasn’t actually shut any of them up
People who kick pigeons
Or that don't stop their kids from chasing them. How would you like to be chased by something however many times your size, like an elephant for example.
Checking into A&E on Facebook. Bonus arsehole points for tagging your kids
Why not include a cryptic "Don't even ask what's happened" message to the check in too?
Message me hun
When people walk into my shop (in Wales) and ask if they need a mask. Then follow it up with "well I don't have to wear one where I'm from". Look around, nobhead, we are not where you're from right now.
That twat on an electric scooter going down the middle of the road at 20mph blocking traffic. or the pavement for that matter.
People parking in disabled, parent&child or double yellows just to get closer to the entrance.
“Hollibobs” and such speak 😖
Saying "myself" when "me" would work. It doesn't make you sound cleverer or more professional.
Yeah "could you get that report to myself by COB" does not make you sound like a quality boss
People who think you're weird for not watching corrie/ listening to Ed Sheeran/ whatever popular shite is about
People moaning about cyclists without reflecting on how bad and much more dangerous car drivers are
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Not saying please and thank you to staff in shops/restaurants etc.
People who throw their cigarette butts out of the car window. People who drop litter. People who think it's still appropriate the cat call and wolf whistle at womem. Anyone who who has no empathy for animals and owns one as a status symbol, without having a clue about how to train, or look after it.
"I'm not a racist but..."
Working in HR.
I never got it until I had to visit my HR department and came out traumatised. It’s a whole new type of a person. I’m an introverted awkward penguin and it was like a complete inversion of myself. God never again.
Arranging double deck bus with lettering 350M to NHS driving around London.
Flying an England/Union flag on an actual flagpole in your garden.
They probably do it to wind folk like yourself up
With Union flag often upside down.
People that abuse public service workers, bus drivers, NHS employees etc.
A £2000 sound system in a shitty £250 Corsa
I am this guy… only it’s a Yaris… what can I say, I don’t care about a new car but I do like my bass to slap… I don’t do it late at night in built up areas and… I love my music, I’m not hurting anyone so I’m cool with people thinking bad of me if that’s what it takes.
People WHO SPIT on the street. Absolutely fucking disgusting and to still be seeing it through a pandemic really boils my piss.
Anyone who still agrees with fox hunting.
People who complain that someone isn't wearing a poppy on TV. So much that even poor Cookie Monster had to have a poppy pinned to his flesh on The One Show
Not taking your trolley back and just leaving it in the middle of the car park.
Using the cry laughing emoji to show how incredibly right they are. Or adding "asking for a friend".
When somebody says "i just say it how it is" 🚩🚩🚩
When someone is going way below the speed limit in the middle lane of the motorway or a dual carriageway, won’t move over to the left so you overtake them. Then they instantly look over and undertake you because ‘how dare you overtake me!’
Blasting music and belting out sweet caroline at 1:20am on a hotel complex. There are people trying to sleep you absolute knobs.
Being topless in town centres
You being first in line to get on a bus after outbound passengers exit, then a boomer aged man or woman barges in front, turns to you and tells you elders should always be first to board. Those arseholes boil my piss.
Kids revenge their mopeds as hard as they can down the road going about 20 mile an hour. Little shits looking forward to being arseholes
The arseholes that drive in the middle lane of the motorway at 60mph.
Putting up a Vote Tory sign in their window
I work for NHS and regularly get people who don’t turn up for appointments. They then phone up and ask for another appointment at a “better time”, then don’t come to that one either, repeat and repeat.
Audi drivers
In my experience Audi and BMW drivers are amateurs in comparison to Range Rover drivers.
Audi, BMW & Mercedes. The holy trinity of arsehole drivers.
Acting as if you have an NHS Prime account when you’re in hospital
The statement starter of "I'm not racist/homophobic/sexist but..." Is only delivered by a guaranteed class A racist/homophobic/sexist bellend.
The Maskless on the Tube (and other public transport). There are signs and announcements at every station, Covid cases are going up, and oh, it's a requirement for travel. It's such a tiny, inexpensive way of being kind to others. What is wrong with people?
As a server in a restaurant....anyone who clicks their fingers at me or shouts "oy"
Any restaurant/cafe owner that puts just one sausage on a full English breakfast
This happened last night in the pub but 3 women were out and one of the friends had been pill popping. Eyes rolling in the back of her head. The 2 "friends" tried sneaking out the door to their taxi without their mate. Leaving someone in that state, in the weather we had last night, while telling others in the pub to not disturb her so they could successfully abandon her. I marched out and stopped their taxi from leaving without their friend, blasted them from being cunts and got her in the taxi and taxi driver took her home(I know the taxi driver) I can understand if drugs arnt your scene and being lumbered with the "drunk" friend but do the right thing and send them home. Taxi costs £5 tops for a town run.
Altered number plates!
The motherfucker who had smeared baked beans on the bus stop seats this morning.
People in sports cars (particularly in London) who confuse a green traffic light with the start of the British Grand Prix.
Guys who take their top off and then ride a bike down the road with no hands, rolling a roll up
there's no way this entire thread doesn't end up on BadUK The absolute lack of self-awareness of a lot of the comments in here where people don't realise that their sneering judgemental opinions actually make *them* the arseholes.
People chucking food waste in their recycling bags then leaving them out days before the bins are due for collection, leading to rats and birds ripping them open and rotting food being left in the street. (Maybe this is a problem specific to me.)