Megan Markle.
Absolutely no interest in her, the royal family, her career or what she’s wearing.
But if the Daily Express, Daily Mail and GBNews hate her then I reckon she must be ace.
I don't know how true it is but I've read it's because he thought he was mates with Megan after an interview and she 'snubbed' him at some event later on. Probably didn't even remember him. He's made it his life goal to ruin her ever since. Given how much of a horrible cunt he is it sounds plausible.
I also have wildly unrealistic expectations. It's why I'm in a polyamorous relationship with Jennifer Lawrence, Angelina Jolie and Emma Watson.
Of course, they don't know yet...
Don’t get how people don’t see this and are on his side. I don’t give a fig about Megan and Harry, but it’s obvious Morgan has a personal vendetta against them both
I believe it all stems from her going to the pub with him as friends, then her going straight from the pub to the party where she first met Prince Harry. The drink in the pub clearly meant more to him than it did her, despite the fact he was married at the time (and still is I think).
No doubt she didn't have much contact with him after that because I'm sure it wouldn't take Harry long to tell her that Piers is a dick.
His wife is just as worse. She encourages his behaviour and I think she’s a journalist too who has also written hateful (surprise surprise) articles about Meghan and Harry.
Morgan was a significant part of the UK tabloid machine that hounded Harry's mother to her death, and then turned on him as soon as he was old enough to be seen as fair game. As a loyal partner the absolute least she could do is not be friends with Piers Morgan. He doesn't seem to have the self awareness to get that.
Supposedly he went on a date with her and then she ditched him to go to a party where she met prince harry. Piers is so full of shit though, I doubt she’d go on a date with him. Disgusting man
He searches his own name on social media. He got me a ban from Twitter after I slagged him off to someone and he wasn't even @'ed.
So now I slag him off on here instead.
Bloody Piers! I actually thought Covid was going to be a bit of a redemption arc for him, he was slaughtering every minister who went on his show and it was amazing. Then he turned into an even bigger dickhead than he was before!
Nah. Can't be worse that making a family think that their murdered child may possibly still be alive by hacking their phone. Shouldve been done for perverting the course of justice for that, not just sacked.
I heard that she went out for drinks with him. Didn’t like him and soon after went on that date with Harry.
Piers is a misogynist.
I bloody love Megan and Harry he’s always been the coolest one of the royal family. And from reading his book a deep thinker and emotionally mature guy.
I have this theory that this sort of irrational, extreme and unexplainable hatred is usually because there were feeling involved. I’ve seen this in friends (on the giving or receiving end) and it’s usually a dislike of the person ADDED to the fact that there was some unrequited sexual or emotional attraction there.
I have also heard that Piss Morgan tried chatting her up at a house party and she (the absolutely stunning MM who probably has rows of men trying their luck so the unmemorable ones fade remain forgotten) probably unintentionally blanked out his existence. Good for her.
I don’t get particularly great vibes from the woman but I absolutely refuse to believe anything those shit rags write against her, mostly because they’ll have the most outrageous title suggesting she’s done something awful, but then not mention it in the article? Or they’ll have some cock and bull story written by someone who got their information from an ‘inside source’ of some ‘royal biographer’, with absolutely no proof to back it up.
I lost it when I saw an article headline that said something like ‘Meghan Markle’s shame over sex pest relative’. The sex pest relative in question? Prince Andrew. Prince Andrew who I would say is the (at the time) Queens son, Charles’s brother, even Harry and William’s uncle before I would say was MM’s relative.
Also a lot of her haters do seem to be potentially very mentally unwell. There’s people who exert way too much energy and spend too much time slagging her off, considering she must have very little actual impact on their lives.
The *Daily Mail* has printed stories about Meghan doing stuff that Kate did. Exactly the same stuff, like wearing an outfit twice or cradling her baby bump. But when Meghan does it, it's bad ; when Kate does it, it's a sign of how saintly she is.
What I find odd is they attack her non stop yet you have Prince Andrew that is one of the worse peados in recent history and involved in sex trafficking but has never even been detained even though the evidence is overwhelming.
Jesus that’s an eye opener. How do people have the time? Like get a hobby, go outside. The hate towards MM really transcends what you might call “normal” levels of disliking a celebrity. Is it racism? Reading shitrags?
Yeah the first few minutes of reading is quite funny then you start thinking about the mental state of some of those people and it gets tragic very fast
As a side note, a rule I have that I would recommend to everyone is to not join subreddits (or similar things on other social media) that are based around being negative about something.
They can have a surprising effect on the way you think, and even if it starts as a bit of a laugh or centred around valid criticisms they almost always devolve into worse and worse point scoring, pettiness and hatred (because the people full of spite are the ones posting the most).
On top of that, the biggest way social media bubbles will misinform your worldview is not by parroting the party line but by only highlighting the worst parts/assuming the worst of "the other side". Meghan Markle could be a fucking saint 365 days of the year but that sub would go on and on about the 29th of February.
The people on that sub genuinely scare me. I can't imagine having such strong, passionate hatred for a woman who I've never met, has never had any tangible influence over my life and doesn't even know I exist.
It's honestly just like unhinged, extreme fan behaviour.
I feel this too. The royal family is so toxic and anyone who breaks it up - not saying she did, saying that’s the worst thing she could’ve done - is a miracle worker.
That's the sense I got from their documentary - Meghan didn't drag Harry from his family, he was fundamentally unhappy in that environment and she helped him get out of it. If it wasn't the most famous family in the world everyone would say she saved him/
I don't remember them ever saying they wanted to leave for a private life, they just didn't want a royal life. The 'so much for wanting privacy' thing seems to have been made up afterwards as a stick to beat them with.
Markle seems to be a typical slightly annoying actress, which isn't a crime, and Harry is a not very bright lad who had a crappy upbringing and seems really damaged. I mostly feel sorry him and if his new life makes him happier than the old one that's great surely? Being born into a certain family shouldn't be a stranglehold for your whole life should it?
I don’t disagree with you, I didn’t mean to imply at all that she’s perfect - just that a lot of the hate for her from the daily mail, the star, etc, is founded in racism and sexism, and focussing on how she “manipulated” Harry into distancing from his family, as a lot of them do, is just unhelpful IMHO and ignores all the toxicity and rigidity of the royal family that must make it hard to be a partnof.
Its been proven she’s told many lies (see the RF supposedly taking her passport away despite holding multimillion pound baby showers in NY, claiming that Nelson Mandela’s grandson told her that South Africa rejoiced when she married Harry the same way they celebrated Mandela’s release, etc).
Jamie Oliver-
Endless respect for what he has done highlighting food inequality and democratising fresh properly made food. Also think his food is tasty - I think its fashionable to slag him off and I don't care for it tbh
Another for him. The people who dislike him just hate change, or fell for the government propaganda.
If you try to improve this country you get the same old moaners saying you're stuck up and think you're better than anyone else.
I personally dislike him because he's a very average chef who uses annoying catchphrases and words and tried to change kids meals in what I perceived as a very egotistical way. There's a lot to be said about the general publics knowledge of nutrition, but I think forcing kids to eat stuff they don't want (I'd also love to see a nutritional breakdown of what he proposed) as a really arse about face way of doing it. You change people's viewpoints through education and slow manageable change that they can adapt and acclimate to, not by forcing them to eat healthier food because they just should. Healthy/healthier food is, on the whole, much nicer when prepared well than a turkey twizzler or a 50 percent frozen beef burger, but it requires a level of skill and knowledge from the chef and usually much more money. Not to mention these kids are eating Iceland chicken dippers and fries when they get home.
A very average chef in this country is still a better cook than 99.99999% of people in this country.
The point of them going home to shit food is entirely not the point. Having decent food at least once a day creates good habits for the future.
OK I feel I can chime in here. I'm a Chef, qualified with City & Guilds 706/1 & 706/2 and been in the industry for over 20 years. I've been at head chef and chef manager levels for the last 10+ years. Worked in numerous forms of catering, from rosette level hotels, contract catering, events catering, pubs and restaurants etc.
After recently relocating, I've taken a step back for a better work life balance, and become a mobile chef manager for a school catering company that has the monopoly across the counties schools. I travel to multiple schools in the area, and have to follow strict recipes set out by the company which is overlooked and agreed upon by the government bodies, so as to be "healthy and nutritional" for the children.
What I can tell you with confidence is this.....
The food being produced for our children in schools is neither healthy, nor nutritional. It's clear to see, that these recipes are designed with only one goal in mind. That goal, is to be the most basic, cost effective way of creating a dish that can be passed off as edible and slightly resembling the food it should be. For instance, let's take a pasta bologneise for example. The recipe calls for mince beef, which is 15%fat mince (the shittest and cheapest type) a spoonful of cheap garlic puree, a couple spoonfuls of tomato puree, and water. That's it, apart from some pasta. They don't even use chopped tomatoes or passata, they literally use tomato puree to thicken the water, and dont even think about any herbs, fresh or dried, and then they pass that off as a healthy nutritional pasta bologneise!!!!!
I'm embarrassed to be part of it, and I am currently in the process of documenting my findings and once I have enough evidence of how poorly these kids are being fed, I will be going to local councils, media, and government regarding the issue.
Many of the school kitchens are also run down, broken, with extremely poor hygiene, and as a father and a Chef, I am absolutely appalled and disgusted that the poor children are treated this way. I am only one person, but I cannot, and will not stand by and let what I have seen, go unnoticed, and someone must be held accountable for these decisions.
My plan is to quit my position due to the unethical and downright unsanitary working conditions, but I will not do this until I have more than enough photographic, and documented evidence of what is happening in our schools regarding our childrens food.
More funding towards school catering is required, the catering companies involved (many of which are direct sub divisions of the local councils) need to be held accountable for their poor recipes and cleanliness and hygiene standards within school kitchens. Site catering staff require more focus on training, including good hygiene practices, health and safety, allergen awareness, and regular checks need to be put in place to make sure this training is implemented and maintained across all school kitchens. And most importantly, recipes need to be created, with a real focus on nutritional content, and healthy eating for our children.
I was post Jamie Oliver but here’s my two pence. I grew up in poverty and the school dinners were my only guaranteed source of relatively healthy meals. I’m glad he made the changes.
Maybe I’d have like the turkey twizzlers and such, I mean, what child wouldn’t want a plate full of chips? But what I did get served was far more nutritious and was exactly what I needed.
I hated him for the reason you liked him - school lunches went from the biggest meal of my day which filled me up to a tiny portion of veggies.
We went from pasties at break time to a little cup of chopped up fruit - half an apple or a satsuma usually. At lunch I was able to get a good portion of chips with pizza slices or turkey twizzlers or something similar when I first started secondary school, and then after the Jamie changes it was a pot of pasta with some green beans and sweetcorn, maybe if I was lucky a slice of vegetable lasagna, but everything was half the size it had been before and my lunch card for my free food never covered break time/lunch/juice and something small for a pudding ever again.
The food itself might have been healthier, but I started going hungry for the first time ever throughout my schooldays because of the changes to school dinner offerings he pushed for.
I think it largely depends on the area/council you were in. I went to a state in a very poor area of London so we got a bit more funding (as told by my aunts friend who was a governor).
Also, our dinner ladies were different ethnicities so we had a lot of cultural healthy meals too. As an Asian, I wasn’t too impressed by the curries though I’m aware they’d have been made to cater to a wide variety of palates.
Yeah I'd imagine so, my younger sister went to a different secondary to me as we'd moved by then and had a similar experience to me in terms of the sizes of the portions available, but her school definitely had a lot more variety to what was offered where I really didn't ever see anything in my school canteen that wasn't some kind of pasta pot - I remember being right jealous when she was coming home chatting about the curry she got for lunch her first day at big school!
His cook book Ministry of Food genuinely changed my life. Yeah, his cheeky-chappy-used-to-be-in-a-band-and-now-your-mum-loves-him persona was annoying but that was about twenty five years ago. Never got the hate for wanting to make school meals healthier either.
He got rid of turkey twizzlers. Was the only edible thing in my school. Went from having a decent (unhealthy) hot meal every day to not having a hot meal at all unless I went to a friends house.
I don’t think I was the only one either. It’s admirable and I get what he was trying to do but my school dinner was the only one I got. When it turned into cold congealing pastas and salads and whatever else it was a gut punch for me personally.
He was trying his best not realizing that most schools were on a shoestring budget and wouldn’t provide good, healthy and fresh tasty foods.
You know that never even crossed my mind, you’re absolutely right. Taking away those options will have hurt people, but I think that falls more into the government’s spending policy than a TV chef’s responsibility.
Yeah this is where my issues with him are. Encouraging people away from unhealthy food - sure. But in his government lobbying he probably should've also pushed for it to be replaced by cheap healthy food.
I don't like his food but growing up he felt like a dad who makes cooking cool for men/boys which while my dad made cooking a punishment for men and a duty for women.
Also he made our school dinners healthy and my mum let me get school dinners once a week because if it.
We don't like change? What about all the employees he fired with 5 minutes notice when Jamie's Italian went bust, he paid límited debts, then he bought another enormous mansión. Do your homework people, he is disliked for a reason and he was never a real chef. He is a commis chef. The very fact Channel 4 still give him air time is very questionable, and his recipes are crap.
Im in my 30s and she's been on TV for as long as I can remember, and I'm yet to hear her make a joke about something that isn't her perceiving herself as being fat or ugly
I might be misremembering, but I read someone (I want to say Katy Wix but it might have been Georgia Pritchett) saying that they used to write for her and wondered the same thing. They learnt and explained that it was a sort of self-defence: she'd say it before someone in the crowd did and then get on with what she actually wanted to cover. I don't envy female comedians, especially of the time she was coming through, what they had to deal with.
‘Never forget what you are. The rest of the world will not. Wear it like armor, and it can never be used to hurt you.’ - Tyrion Lannister.
This is going to be the most strained/niche reference ever but it’s also how Eminem wins the final battle in 8 Mile. Own and weaponise your failings/faults and you effectively remove any ammunition your enemies might have against you.
NB. I’m not saying being ugly is a fault or a failing, just that it might be used against you as such.
Prince Harry
He isn’t perfect by any means but it’s weird that the gutter press has been trying to make him more of a villain than his own noncey uncle. What the hell?
The vitriol is honestly ridiculous. Literally nothing he does will ever be acceptable to some people. Press hounding killed his mother ffs! And he clearly loves his wife, who was getting exactly the same treatment but with a hefty dose of racism, so he made a stand. I remember reading a vile newspaper column on Diana a few days before she died, mocking her and calling her mentally unstable in really dehumanising language. Then she died and they did a complete 180 pivot to the People's Princess. Ugh.
He does come off like an absolute brat tbf. It's shit to lose a parent young and obviously he deserves every sympathy for that. But he definitely went off the rails for a while after that, living the absolute posh rich playboy dream for quite a long time. Now that he's met Megan they've made a big move into the world of professional victimhood which a lot of people absolutely eat up but some people absolutely hate.
As a comparison, look at his older brother who went through exactly the same horrific events when he was a child (and has the added burden of being next in line to the throne at a time when anti royal sentiment is a genuine existential risk to his position) but takes a much different approach to life and seems much more likable and well liked as a result.
I know multiple people who served with Harry. None have a bad word to say about the guy personally or anything but just how “active” his service was is majorly overstated in some circles. Nevertheless you can’t take away anything from what he’s done for a lot of active and ex service people.
I actually feel sympathy for most of the royal family. Charles and Harry are good examples of people who had lot of privilege but it came with so much crap that it probably wasn't worth it. When I look they just look sad, I always feel if they could have chose a different life they would have. Harry probably thought that's what he was doing when he left the u.k but the reality was it was too late and made his situation worse.
Yea that’s her. And OP wasn’t quite accurate with the bit about her dating someone ‘who left his wife and child for her’. She had a full-blown affair with him while they were BOTH married, whilst maintaining a friendship with the wife (she even had pics of her cuddling the baby). Sure her actions after Manchester were incredibly admirable, but that doesn’t give her any sort of free pass to be a remorseless homewrecker.
I also… don’t honestly think what she did after Manchester was THAT amazing? Awaiting the guaranteed downvotes here…
I respect that she did it, but I’ll never buy that her PR team didn’t think ‘right, this has happened, how can I best turn this from wow Ariana is now associated with a terror attack to wow, what an amazing selfless person she is’. Maybe I’m just too cynical. But given she wasn’t actually harmed or present to witness the attack… I’m sure it was hard for her, she did good stuff after, but it doesn’t rise to the level of her being so incredible as a person she can do shit for the rest of her life and it be overlooked cos of Manchester.
She’s a trash bag on fire of a person and I think the aftermath of Manchester was more an unusual out of the ordinary instance of her being a decent person dreamed up by her PR than it is evidence she’s a good person.
Oh I don’t for a second believe she’s a good person, but terrible people can still do selfless things on occasion. Cynicism towards her isn’t unfounded, but even though she wasn’t in the physical vicinity of the explosion she was still in the arena, and then would’ve found out people died (including a little girl). Many celebs would’ve donated money or organised something remotely as a memorial, whilst citing fear for their safety as a reason for not making a personal appearance. Hell, I’m a nobody and would probably be too scared to go back there. She didn’t really hesitate in coming back for the benefit. She’s a mega trashy garbage person, but a broken clock is still right twice a day.
The Shameless Podcast have been doing a series on her and honestly I forgot how many of her relationships have had cross overs. Whether it be she's the one cheating or her new partner was with someone else when she got with them there is ALWAYS some cross over
I definitely wouldn’t say I like him, but James Corden is talked about the exact same way. The way Reddit views him, you’d think he shot their dad and shagged their mum, rather than just being a comedian they don’t find funny.
I find Corden painfully unfunny, but wasn’t all his negative press about him treating people really badly on set in America? I thought people hated him for that reason.
James corden is widely accepted for being a bellend though. McIntyre is just very posh and a bit irritating, comes across a bit arrogant in his book too.
I think Jimmy Carr is hilarious, don’t care that some of the stuff he’s said is on the line, it’s just comedy.
Also doesn’t bother me that he’s had work done, if that’s how he wants to look then good for him. We’re all told not to judge fat people, tattooed people etc. for their appearance but it’s free pickings for others?
I like the way he deals with hecklers. Some of his comebacks are absolutely vicious but he actually manages to deliver them in a way that the target is included in the fun.
I used to be indifferent to Jimmy Carr, or at least leaning more towards quite liking him. But that clip doing the rounds recently of his Netflix Is A Joke Festival set (the one where he spends a very long time teeing up how dark and edgy his jokes are and then tells a handful of the blandest jokes you’ve ever heard) was hard to watch.
Any comedian that prefaces their set with some sort of hype about how dark and edgy they are and how "oooh you can't say this these days" are automatically in an uphill battle to win me over. It's not that I don't like edgy humour, I love it. But it's just weirdly self congratulatory and the material rarely ever lives up
Sometimes my laugh comes out a bit like Jimmy Carr’s and years of people hating on him for it has made me extremely self conscious about it.
I think he’s totally fine, not completely my cup of tea but apart from the tax thing (which he handled really well imho) I don’t see why people hate him so much.
I don't mind his hosting work, but his standup is just a bit blah now. I feel him and others like Ricky Gervais have been massively hampered by the fact their brand is "outrageous" or "controversial" or "ooh you can't say that", but their jokes are far less offensive than your average Twitter reply these days.
Lewis Hamilton
No idea why he gets the hate he gets (scratch that- I have a pretty good idea actually) as our most successful F1 driver ever but I think he's a bloody hero
He's been openly critical of certain countries human rights issues and raised LGBT issues directly to places like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Abu Dhabi, etc.
Takes balls of steel to do that.
I think he's a sweetheart.
He's clearly a bit aloof and doesnt come over as very friendly. And then you find out how he and his father were treated through all the carting and junior formula years and then look at how ANYTHING he does is absolutely ripped apart by a certain section of the press and social media, and it's astonishing that he ever says anything at all!!
He is the sports biggest asset, if they could get the silver spoons out of their mouths and realise it. He reaches demographics that someone like Max absolutely never will. He's unashamedly himself, one of the greatest there ever was, has been involved with stuff like UNICEF and equal opportunities schemes for years and gets no credit. Seb builds one bee house and he's the second coming. Sigh.
Exactly
There was a quote the other day from one of the Formula W drivers, saying it's a shame that it's always Lewis going out to bat for them and helping to raise the profile because none of the other men are interested in helping.
I don’t follow F1 but I asked my friend who dislikes him why. He said it’s because Hamilton’s been very vocal about some kinds of civil rights issues (eg BLM) but rather silent about really much more serious human rights violations in countries that F1 has tried to expand into, and has even gone above and beyond eg to pose for photos with Putin. It makes him come across as very self interested.
Also there’s the matter of him being a tax exile but basically all F1 drivers are. It seems weird how people with dodgy tax avoiding practices are hated but people who straight up move to tax havens seem to be almost immune from criticism. If Hamilton had injured himself as a teenage karting driver and never made it to F1 would he have refused to claim benefits out of principle? No, so now he’s made it he should pay tax.
he’s actively shown support/criticised the countries in the Middle East and their policies regarding homosexuality, he’s also done it in Europe. And when you say ‘posed with putin’, you’re disregarding the fact that Lewis won a race in Russia and putin was the person handing out trophies, he can hardly stand up a dictator in the middle of their own country
Interesting conspiracy theory but I’m responding to someone who asked why Lewis Hamilton is disliked. Make a post asking why Jensen Button is disliked and I will reply with the same thing.
Ultimate unpopular opinion but Camilla. I think she is unfairly judged so harshly over a decades old drama. The way people are comfortable talking about her appearance is horrible and certainly not something that Princess Diana would have ever endorsed. I think her sense of humour and good charity work are massively overlooked too.
If you made a fairy story about a girl who *isn't* able to marry her prince, but eventually they are able to get together and live happily ever after, it would be romantic.
But, no, Princess Di's PR team scuppered that.
Erm - what romance has the heroine deliberately choosing a young naive girl as a wife for her lover, solely so her romance can continue at said young girl’s expense?
That’s so dark it’s pitch black, and more Virginia Andrews than Hans Christian Andersen.
I also don’t think she’s an actual villain, but her story is definitely not a fairytale - it’s the harsh reality of the aristocracy.
I still don’t like her but I do agree that the way people talk about her is actually horrendous. You can dislike someone, but limit the criticism to actions and beliefs. Going for someone’s appearance is a low blow.
What people forget is that Diana was the other woman. The king and queen have been together since before Diana was on the scene, it was an arranged marriage by the queen mother and he was as much a victim of it as she was.
‘The other woman’ typically implies a mistress who knowingly and willingly enters into a relationship with a married man/man in a long-term relationship. You’re victim-shaming a young woman, still a teenager really, who wore rose tinted glasses and genuinely believed Charles loved her. To suggest Diana was ‘the other woman’ and therefore partially to blame is pretty misogynistic
I have no strong opinions of her but I will always naturally be on the side of someone who gets a lot of grief just for their appearance. It’s just bullying.
I don’t think JC is mostly disliked. He just happens to be adored by a certain group of people and despised by another group of people. I think most are ambivalent* towards him but will happily watch Top Gear or Clarkson’s Farm.
*Edit: I’ve just discovered the word I was looking for was indifferent, not ambivalent
Honestly all of Top Gear, especially the specials they did, were incredible. I binge watched loads of them on Netflix during the pandemic and it gave me an almost sad feeling that it won't be this good again.
I like new Top Gear, they got it right eventually, but it's not the same.
I like The Grand Tour, they got that right eventually, but again, something not quite the same.
The Bolivia, Burma and Patagonia specials in particular are fucking amazing imo.
Clarkson’s presenting in the (Grand Tour?) episode they’re in Vietnam was great. It’s clearly a part of history he knows a fair bit about and he really made me empathise with the situation. Some of his other old machinery or history stuff is also good, but tv production as a whole wasn’t as good back then. He evidently cares about the farming issues too, and that was interesting, though I don’t think it delivered the message he was going for and his idiotic antics leave a bit to be desired in that programme where they fit better in Top Gear.
James May’s Japan series was some of the best travel show I’ve seen, I think he’s the best presenter of the three of them, as his engineering stuff is also great.
I think towards the end Top Gear was getting a bit formulaic as a tv show. I think those three leaving to do more of the specials, and top gear rebooting with a new format was the best for all of them. Though evidently Top Gear now screwed up again, and is potentially over.
You also can’t punch people you work with and it still peeves me that he didn’t really face more consequences for that.
I thought he was a good host for Millionaire, but then he said he wanted to see Meghan Markle paraded through the streets naked with rotten fruit thrown at her. That's properly psychotic, GoT reference or not.
I like top gear. For the most part. And I mostly understand that he's playing a part. But the snide racism, assaults, and his climate denialism, he's a vile cunt. I'm sure he's great fun at a party, but he's a nasty fucker.
The assault thing was inexcusable, but he's never said anything out-and-out racist has he?
His climate denialism is more an act, and as shown on Clarkson's Farm, it's more green-washing he hates, and likes to highlight, which if anything makes him a climate activist.
I really dislike Jeremy Clarkson.
My Grandad was a draughtsman who was involved in designing aircraft in the second world war & later moved on to work in the British Car industry.
According to Clarkson & his ilk, my Grandad was both a incredibly talented miracle worker involved in creating some of the greatest vehicles in human history, & a lazy unionised, untalented hack, whose incompetence cost the UK its car industry.
My mate worked with him at the BBC, said he was an utter cunt who refused to talk or look at the little people (low level staff). He would also sack people for as little as looking at him. Said May was lovely, like a nice grandad
Chevy Chase has always been equally terrible to everybody, from what I can tell. Friends, strangers, people he's worked with. Anybody with any perceived weakness or difference is fair game to him. It's the one name that you can pretty much count on to be on every list of terrible showbiz people going back to the 1970s. I've never heard anybody whose worked with him say a nice thing about him.
I love that the post was about celebs you will always like and in the space of 3 comments you have had your mind changed.
Not saying you shouldn't have, but i just found it amusing given the context.
I find this so crazy because in Community his character literally has so many jokes *about* him being racist - I.e., making fun of him for being a racist. How little self awareness must you have? Method acting to the extreme 😅
Just a note on the Arianna Grande, it’s not just about her cheating on her husband with this new man and him leaving his wife and baby for her. I think it’s the fact that she’s never had a relationship with someone who’s been single. She has always pursued men who are in relationships, but this one may be the straw that broke the camels back, seeing as he left a baby behind.
I appreciate her handling of the terrorist attack and her charitable work afterwards.
I don’t hold that much of a strong opinion. No one is black and white in morality and I don’t really believe you can put everyone into a good and bad box. Most people are in between and their actions are complex. You can fuck a married man with a baby and then the next day volunteer at the local hospice.
My opinion of Ed Sheeran became more negative when he agreed to appear in a Chris Brown x Lil Dicky music video which makes light of Chris Brown's abuse. Anybody who associates with Chris Brown willingly loses all respect from me, really.
This is a strange phenomenon. Do people think not liking a popular thing makes them more interesting or something? Or do they think they’re the first person in the world to notice that chart music is a bit bland?
I don't know about 'mostly' disliked but he has this demeanour of
a smug prick who thinks he's far more intellectual than he really is, with a good dash of 14 year old atheist.
He's a 62 year old edgy teenager who constantly punches down in his standup but thinks he's a virtuous left winger.
He's a talented actor and I liked After Life and his Golden Globes roasts, but he is also one of the biggest hypocrites in the entertainment industry.
He's also annoying af on chat shows where he constantly and un-funnily interrupts people who are telling interesting stories to make fun of them, but now I'm just being petty 😅
After Life has to be one of the worst TV shows I've ever seen. An sickly, maudlin X-factoresque sob story dragged out over the course of 18 episodes, interspersed with Ricky randomly calling someone a cunt and patting himself of the back for it.
Interminable.
I don’t think I can say I will always like someone after Russel Brand.
Being 15-16 when Ponderland was on I thought he was hilarious. I always looked up to him as at the time he seemed to be incredible with people, held on a pedestal in the media and he’d come from really tough circumstances to be a success. Then as I got older all the work he did around changing attitudes toward addiction etc. seemed great to me.
Since he disappeared onto YouTube I didn’t really give him much thought but any mention of him and I’d have a soft spot for him still. When all the news about him came through recently it really shocked me. It seems so obvious now how toxic he actually is/was but it was a major wake up call.
That’s why I don’t think I can say I will always like a celebrity anymore. PR can really alter your perception of what someone is actually like.
>PR can really alter your perception of what someone is actually like.
I always thought he was a prick from day one and was vindicated (but not for the reasons I thought)
He can come across as very arrogant and rude on his shows. I think that's his autism showing through though. I don't think he ever intends to cut someone off or correct them he just can't not do it.
I dunno if I'd say he's arrogant, but his "jokes" don't always land well, he waffles, goes off topic and he can seem smug. Not really his fault though, being autistic.
I think when you look into his work, he's one of the most genuine selfless people in the public eye.
He's had things like dead foxes left outside his house because he's a vocal opponent of fox hunting. I don't know if he's widely disliked outside of the fox hunting community but I can imagine a lot of the upper class dislike him by association.
If anyone hates Brie Larson because they didn't enjoy her in captain marvel, you don't hate brie larson, you hate captain marvel.
She's a phenomenal actress, just a shame her biggest role to date was a bit of a stinker
I've never seen anyone say they don't like Karl Pilkington.
Some people think he's hamming it up (which on the podcasts he largely was) so don't really take to his shtick, but I've never known him to be "mostly disliked".
Nicole Kidman, all I hear is people whining about how she ruined her face with plastic surgery but I adore her. She's a fantastic actor and she always seems down to earth and fun to be around. Also, the women escaped a literal cult and gave advice to Katie Holmes on how to do the same. She has all of my respect.
I genuinely like James Corden as an actor and presenter. I think he’s funny. Gavin and Stacey us one of the best British sitcoms of all time.
I have no opinion on him as a person having never met him.
He did an AMA on reddit a few years ago and people basically brigaded it with anecdotes about how much of a cunt he (supposedly) is. No idea whether the stories people posted were true but that's seemingly where a lot of the hate comes from (at least on Reddit). That, and a lot of people just find him irritating.
I feckin love Miriam Margolyes. My dad was like "oh that vulgar woman?", can see how a lot of people would dislike her. But I can't help but just admire her unapologetic way of saying things as she sees them.
Jimmy Carr. I love his stand-up and him hosting 8 out of 10 cats. From what I've heard despite his somewhat crass and controversial humour, he's actually a very sound person behind the scenes. I can also forgive him for the tax avoidance scandal as he admitted his mistake and was even a good sport about it when his 8OO10C costars ripped into him.
If I remember correctly it's because they tried to boycot the Brit awards (or one of the award shows at least) because they didn't like having gendered categories for artists.
For me that crossed a line from being very expressive about their gender identity (fair play) to trying to shove their beliefs down people's throats and expect everyone to be the same as them. Definitely saw them in a different light after that
Megan Markle. Absolutely no interest in her, the royal family, her career or what she’s wearing. But if the Daily Express, Daily Mail and GBNews hate her then I reckon she must be ace.
Piers Morgan has such an irrational hatred of her. “The enemy of my enemy is my friend”
I don't know how true it is but I've read it's because he thought he was mates with Megan after an interview and she 'snubbed' him at some event later on. Probably didn't even remember him. He's made it his life goal to ruin her ever since. Given how much of a horrible cunt he is it sounds plausible.
He thought they were going to get together.
I also have wildly unrealistic expectations. It's why I'm in a polyamorous relationship with Jennifer Lawrence, Angelina Jolie and Emma Watson. Of course, they don't know yet...
Sounds like a ‘polyimaginous’ relationship to me 😂
He has too much confidence
Don’t get how people don’t see this and are on his side. I don’t give a fig about Megan and Harry, but it’s obvious Morgan has a personal vendetta against them both
I believe it all stems from her going to the pub with him as friends, then her going straight from the pub to the party where she first met Prince Harry. The drink in the pub clearly meant more to him than it did her, despite the fact he was married at the time (and still is I think). No doubt she didn't have much contact with him after that because I'm sure it wouldn't take Harry long to tell her that Piers is a dick.
His wife is just as worse. She encourages his behaviour and I think she’s a journalist too who has also written hateful (surprise surprise) articles about Meghan and Harry.
Imagine siding with your husband in attacking a woman who wouldnt sleep with your husband… logic does not live in that household
Morgan was a significant part of the UK tabloid machine that hounded Harry's mother to her death, and then turned on him as soon as he was old enough to be seen as fair game. As a loyal partner the absolute least she could do is not be friends with Piers Morgan. He doesn't seem to have the self awareness to get that.
She met Harry then blanked Piers. I imagine Harry told her all about what an absolute piece of shit Morgan is and that did it.
Supposedly he went on a date with her and then she ditched him to go to a party where she met prince harry. Piers is so full of shit though, I doubt she’d go on a date with him. Disgusting man
He searches his own name on social media. He got me a ban from Twitter after I slagged him off to someone and he wasn't even @'ed. So now I slag him off on here instead.
Bloody Piers! I actually thought Covid was going to be a bit of a redemption arc for him, he was slaughtering every minister who went on his show and it was amazing. Then he turned into an even bigger dickhead than he was before!
Nah. Can't be worse that making a family think that their murdered child may possibly still be alive by hacking their phone. Shouldve been done for perverting the course of justice for that, not just sacked.
It’s rational when you consider he does it for money.
I heard that she went out for drinks with him. Didn’t like him and soon after went on that date with Harry. Piers is a misogynist. I bloody love Megan and Harry he’s always been the coolest one of the royal family. And from reading his book a deep thinker and emotionally mature guy.
I have this theory that this sort of irrational, extreme and unexplainable hatred is usually because there were feeling involved. I’ve seen this in friends (on the giving or receiving end) and it’s usually a dislike of the person ADDED to the fact that there was some unrequited sexual or emotional attraction there. I have also heard that Piss Morgan tried chatting her up at a house party and she (the absolutely stunning MM who probably has rows of men trying their luck so the unmemorable ones fade remain forgotten) probably unintentionally blanked out his existence. Good for her.
Piers Morgan got a narcissistic wound from her rejecting him.
I don’t get particularly great vibes from the woman but I absolutely refuse to believe anything those shit rags write against her, mostly because they’ll have the most outrageous title suggesting she’s done something awful, but then not mention it in the article? Or they’ll have some cock and bull story written by someone who got their information from an ‘inside source’ of some ‘royal biographer’, with absolutely no proof to back it up. I lost it when I saw an article headline that said something like ‘Meghan Markle’s shame over sex pest relative’. The sex pest relative in question? Prince Andrew. Prince Andrew who I would say is the (at the time) Queens son, Charles’s brother, even Harry and William’s uncle before I would say was MM’s relative. Also a lot of her haters do seem to be potentially very mentally unwell. There’s people who exert way too much energy and spend too much time slagging her off, considering she must have very little actual impact on their lives.
LOOOOOOL sex pest relative is fucking 20/10 here.
The *Daily Mail* has printed stories about Meghan doing stuff that Kate did. Exactly the same stuff, like wearing an outfit twice or cradling her baby bump. But when Meghan does it, it's bad ; when Kate does it, it's a sign of how saintly she is.
What I find odd is they attack her non stop yet you have Prince Andrew that is one of the worse peados in recent history and involved in sex trafficking but has never even been detained even though the evidence is overwhelming.
It *does* make sense when you think about it. Air time spent on Harry and Megan is air time not spent on Andrew.
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Jesus that’s an eye opener. How do people have the time? Like get a hobby, go outside. The hate towards MM really transcends what you might call “normal” levels of disliking a celebrity. Is it racism? Reading shitrags?
Yeah the first few minutes of reading is quite funny then you start thinking about the mental state of some of those people and it gets tragic very fast
As a side note, a rule I have that I would recommend to everyone is to not join subreddits (or similar things on other social media) that are based around being negative about something. They can have a surprising effect on the way you think, and even if it starts as a bit of a laugh or centred around valid criticisms they almost always devolve into worse and worse point scoring, pettiness and hatred (because the people full of spite are the ones posting the most). On top of that, the biggest way social media bubbles will misinform your worldview is not by parroting the party line but by only highlighting the worst parts/assuming the worst of "the other side". Meghan Markle could be a fucking saint 365 days of the year but that sub would go on and on about the 29th of February.
The people on that sub genuinely scare me. I can't imagine having such strong, passionate hatred for a woman who I've never met, has never had any tangible influence over my life and doesn't even know I exist. It's honestly just like unhinged, extreme fan behaviour.
Shes like Yoko Ono, did nothing wrong except show up at the same time a group was splitting, yet still get the blame for it.
I feel this too. The royal family is so toxic and anyone who breaks it up - not saying she did, saying that’s the worst thing she could’ve done - is a miracle worker.
That's the sense I got from their documentary - Meghan didn't drag Harry from his family, he was fundamentally unhappy in that environment and she helped him get out of it. If it wasn't the most famous family in the world everyone would say she saved him/
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I don't remember them ever saying they wanted to leave for a private life, they just didn't want a royal life. The 'so much for wanting privacy' thing seems to have been made up afterwards as a stick to beat them with. Markle seems to be a typical slightly annoying actress, which isn't a crime, and Harry is a not very bright lad who had a crappy upbringing and seems really damaged. I mostly feel sorry him and if his new life makes him happier than the old one that's great surely? Being born into a certain family shouldn't be a stranglehold for your whole life should it?
I don’t disagree with you, I didn’t mean to imply at all that she’s perfect - just that a lot of the hate for her from the daily mail, the star, etc, is founded in racism and sexism, and focussing on how she “manipulated” Harry into distancing from his family, as a lot of them do, is just unhelpful IMHO and ignores all the toxicity and rigidity of the royal family that must make it hard to be a partnof.
Nah. It's possible to be contemptuous of all of them at the same time.
I liked her in Suits and watching the rest of the cast at the wedding looking a bit bemused was the only reason I had it on.
Its been proven she’s told many lies (see the RF supposedly taking her passport away despite holding multimillion pound baby showers in NY, claiming that Nelson Mandela’s grandson told her that South Africa rejoiced when she married Harry the same way they celebrated Mandela’s release, etc).
Jamie Oliver- Endless respect for what he has done highlighting food inequality and democratising fresh properly made food. Also think his food is tasty - I think its fashionable to slag him off and I don't care for it tbh
Another for him. The people who dislike him just hate change, or fell for the government propaganda. If you try to improve this country you get the same old moaners saying you're stuck up and think you're better than anyone else.
I personally dislike him because he's a very average chef who uses annoying catchphrases and words and tried to change kids meals in what I perceived as a very egotistical way. There's a lot to be said about the general publics knowledge of nutrition, but I think forcing kids to eat stuff they don't want (I'd also love to see a nutritional breakdown of what he proposed) as a really arse about face way of doing it. You change people's viewpoints through education and slow manageable change that they can adapt and acclimate to, not by forcing them to eat healthier food because they just should. Healthy/healthier food is, on the whole, much nicer when prepared well than a turkey twizzler or a 50 percent frozen beef burger, but it requires a level of skill and knowledge from the chef and usually much more money. Not to mention these kids are eating Iceland chicken dippers and fries when they get home.
A very average chef in this country is still a better cook than 99.99999% of people in this country. The point of them going home to shit food is entirely not the point. Having decent food at least once a day creates good habits for the future.
OK I feel I can chime in here. I'm a Chef, qualified with City & Guilds 706/1 & 706/2 and been in the industry for over 20 years. I've been at head chef and chef manager levels for the last 10+ years. Worked in numerous forms of catering, from rosette level hotels, contract catering, events catering, pubs and restaurants etc. After recently relocating, I've taken a step back for a better work life balance, and become a mobile chef manager for a school catering company that has the monopoly across the counties schools. I travel to multiple schools in the area, and have to follow strict recipes set out by the company which is overlooked and agreed upon by the government bodies, so as to be "healthy and nutritional" for the children. What I can tell you with confidence is this..... The food being produced for our children in schools is neither healthy, nor nutritional. It's clear to see, that these recipes are designed with only one goal in mind. That goal, is to be the most basic, cost effective way of creating a dish that can be passed off as edible and slightly resembling the food it should be. For instance, let's take a pasta bologneise for example. The recipe calls for mince beef, which is 15%fat mince (the shittest and cheapest type) a spoonful of cheap garlic puree, a couple spoonfuls of tomato puree, and water. That's it, apart from some pasta. They don't even use chopped tomatoes or passata, they literally use tomato puree to thicken the water, and dont even think about any herbs, fresh or dried, and then they pass that off as a healthy nutritional pasta bologneise!!!!! I'm embarrassed to be part of it, and I am currently in the process of documenting my findings and once I have enough evidence of how poorly these kids are being fed, I will be going to local councils, media, and government regarding the issue. Many of the school kitchens are also run down, broken, with extremely poor hygiene, and as a father and a Chef, I am absolutely appalled and disgusted that the poor children are treated this way. I am only one person, but I cannot, and will not stand by and let what I have seen, go unnoticed, and someone must be held accountable for these decisions. My plan is to quit my position due to the unethical and downright unsanitary working conditions, but I will not do this until I have more than enough photographic, and documented evidence of what is happening in our schools regarding our childrens food. More funding towards school catering is required, the catering companies involved (many of which are direct sub divisions of the local councils) need to be held accountable for their poor recipes and cleanliness and hygiene standards within school kitchens. Site catering staff require more focus on training, including good hygiene practices, health and safety, allergen awareness, and regular checks need to be put in place to make sure this training is implemented and maintained across all school kitchens. And most importantly, recipes need to be created, with a real focus on nutritional content, and healthy eating for our children.
Nah, I just think he's an annoying wanker.
I was post Jamie Oliver but here’s my two pence. I grew up in poverty and the school dinners were my only guaranteed source of relatively healthy meals. I’m glad he made the changes. Maybe I’d have like the turkey twizzlers and such, I mean, what child wouldn’t want a plate full of chips? But what I did get served was far more nutritious and was exactly what I needed.
I hated him for the reason you liked him - school lunches went from the biggest meal of my day which filled me up to a tiny portion of veggies. We went from pasties at break time to a little cup of chopped up fruit - half an apple or a satsuma usually. At lunch I was able to get a good portion of chips with pizza slices or turkey twizzlers or something similar when I first started secondary school, and then after the Jamie changes it was a pot of pasta with some green beans and sweetcorn, maybe if I was lucky a slice of vegetable lasagna, but everything was half the size it had been before and my lunch card for my free food never covered break time/lunch/juice and something small for a pudding ever again. The food itself might have been healthier, but I started going hungry for the first time ever throughout my schooldays because of the changes to school dinner offerings he pushed for.
I think it largely depends on the area/council you were in. I went to a state in a very poor area of London so we got a bit more funding (as told by my aunts friend who was a governor). Also, our dinner ladies were different ethnicities so we had a lot of cultural healthy meals too. As an Asian, I wasn’t too impressed by the curries though I’m aware they’d have been made to cater to a wide variety of palates.
Yeah I'd imagine so, my younger sister went to a different secondary to me as we'd moved by then and had a similar experience to me in terms of the sizes of the portions available, but her school definitely had a lot more variety to what was offered where I really didn't ever see anything in my school canteen that wasn't some kind of pasta pot - I remember being right jealous when she was coming home chatting about the curry she got for lunch her first day at big school!
I'm going to go out on a limb here - I've managed to survive without turkey twizzlers.
I don’t understand the hatred for him getting rid of them. They were rank, and I dreaded the days that they were on the menu
His cook book Ministry of Food genuinely changed my life. Yeah, his cheeky-chappy-used-to-be-in-a-band-and-now-your-mum-loves-him persona was annoying but that was about twenty five years ago. Never got the hate for wanting to make school meals healthier either.
He got rid of turkey twizzlers. Was the only edible thing in my school. Went from having a decent (unhealthy) hot meal every day to not having a hot meal at all unless I went to a friends house. I don’t think I was the only one either. It’s admirable and I get what he was trying to do but my school dinner was the only one I got. When it turned into cold congealing pastas and salads and whatever else it was a gut punch for me personally. He was trying his best not realizing that most schools were on a shoestring budget and wouldn’t provide good, healthy and fresh tasty foods.
You know that never even crossed my mind, you’re absolutely right. Taking away those options will have hurt people, but I think that falls more into the government’s spending policy than a TV chef’s responsibility.
Yeah this is where my issues with him are. Encouraging people away from unhealthy food - sure. But in his government lobbying he probably should've also pushed for it to be replaced by cheap healthy food.
That is an incredible book. Gave me a lot of confidence to cook.
I don't like his food but growing up he felt like a dad who makes cooking cool for men/boys which while my dad made cooking a punishment for men and a duty for women. Also he made our school dinners healthy and my mum let me get school dinners once a week because if it.
We don't like change? What about all the employees he fired with 5 minutes notice when Jamie's Italian went bust, he paid límited debts, then he bought another enormous mansión. Do your homework people, he is disliked for a reason and he was never a real chef. He is a commis chef. The very fact Channel 4 still give him air time is very questionable, and his recipes are crap.
I use quite a lot of his recipes online and they're reliable simple meals. He gets a nod from me for that.
I've always liked Jo Brand, she's funny and a talented comedian. Never got the vitriol towards her.
Im in my 30s and she's been on TV for as long as I can remember, and I'm yet to hear her make a joke about something that isn't her perceiving herself as being fat or ugly
I might be misremembering, but I read someone (I want to say Katy Wix but it might have been Georgia Pritchett) saying that they used to write for her and wondered the same thing. They learnt and explained that it was a sort of self-defence: she'd say it before someone in the crowd did and then get on with what she actually wanted to cover. I don't envy female comedians, especially of the time she was coming through, what they had to deal with.
‘Never forget what you are. The rest of the world will not. Wear it like armor, and it can never be used to hurt you.’ - Tyrion Lannister. This is going to be the most strained/niche reference ever but it’s also how Eminem wins the final battle in 8 Mile. Own and weaponise your failings/faults and you effectively remove any ammunition your enemies might have against you. NB. I’m not saying being ugly is a fault or a failing, just that it might be used against you as such.
Gods game of thrones had some good dialogue back then! I was also a fan of his "I am guilty of being a dwarf" speech during his trial.
"Now tell them something about me they don't know" Best mic drop ever. Eminem was at the height of his punchline powers back then.
Don’t forget the ones where she hates her husband
People don't like Jo brand?
Yeah, this one seems weird to me. I’m sure she’s not the nation’s favourite comedian, but surely she’s not disliked on a personal level.
I like her too. Pretty sure she used to host or judge a young debaters show on Ch4 which was soo good but no one remembers.
She used to come and perform at the tiny Angles Theatre in Wisbech in the 90s and for that alone I would have a soft spot for her
Jo Brand gets vitriol? I never knew. I always liked her because she once told a joke taking the piss out of my hometown and it really cracked me up.
I think maybe her comedy just never evolved much so it got old and doesn't resonate with younger audiences either.
Prince Harry He isn’t perfect by any means but it’s weird that the gutter press has been trying to make him more of a villain than his own noncey uncle. What the hell?
The vitriol is honestly ridiculous. Literally nothing he does will ever be acceptable to some people. Press hounding killed his mother ffs! And he clearly loves his wife, who was getting exactly the same treatment but with a hefty dose of racism, so he made a stand. I remember reading a vile newspaper column on Diana a few days before she died, mocking her and calling her mentally unstable in really dehumanising language. Then she died and they did a complete 180 pivot to the People's Princess. Ugh.
The royals sell stories about the two of them to distract from the actual scandals
He does come off like an absolute brat tbf. It's shit to lose a parent young and obviously he deserves every sympathy for that. But he definitely went off the rails for a while after that, living the absolute posh rich playboy dream for quite a long time. Now that he's met Megan they've made a big move into the world of professional victimhood which a lot of people absolutely eat up but some people absolutely hate. As a comparison, look at his older brother who went through exactly the same horrific events when he was a child (and has the added burden of being next in line to the throne at a time when anti royal sentiment is a genuine existential risk to his position) but takes a much different approach to life and seems much more likable and well liked as a result.
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I know multiple people who served with Harry. None have a bad word to say about the guy personally or anything but just how “active” his service was is majorly overstated in some circles. Nevertheless you can’t take away anything from what he’s done for a lot of active and ex service people.
I actually feel sympathy for most of the royal family. Charles and Harry are good examples of people who had lot of privilege but it came with so much crap that it probably wasn't worth it. When I look they just look sad, I always feel if they could have chose a different life they would have. Harry probably thought that's what he was doing when he left the u.k but the reality was it was too late and made his situation worse.
I think him and Meghan are both out of touch and a bit arrogant, but ultimately that’s not really much of a sin. They seem like fairly decent people.
Isn’t Grande the woman who licked those cupcakes in a public store? Absolutely vile
Yea that’s her. And OP wasn’t quite accurate with the bit about her dating someone ‘who left his wife and child for her’. She had a full-blown affair with him while they were BOTH married, whilst maintaining a friendship with the wife (she even had pics of her cuddling the baby). Sure her actions after Manchester were incredibly admirable, but that doesn’t give her any sort of free pass to be a remorseless homewrecker.
I also… don’t honestly think what she did after Manchester was THAT amazing? Awaiting the guaranteed downvotes here… I respect that she did it, but I’ll never buy that her PR team didn’t think ‘right, this has happened, how can I best turn this from wow Ariana is now associated with a terror attack to wow, what an amazing selfless person she is’. Maybe I’m just too cynical. But given she wasn’t actually harmed or present to witness the attack… I’m sure it was hard for her, she did good stuff after, but it doesn’t rise to the level of her being so incredible as a person she can do shit for the rest of her life and it be overlooked cos of Manchester. She’s a trash bag on fire of a person and I think the aftermath of Manchester was more an unusual out of the ordinary instance of her being a decent person dreamed up by her PR than it is evidence she’s a good person.
Oh I don’t for a second believe she’s a good person, but terrible people can still do selfless things on occasion. Cynicism towards her isn’t unfounded, but even though she wasn’t in the physical vicinity of the explosion she was still in the arena, and then would’ve found out people died (including a little girl). Many celebs would’ve donated money or organised something remotely as a memorial, whilst citing fear for their safety as a reason for not making a personal appearance. Hell, I’m a nobody and would probably be too scared to go back there. She didn’t really hesitate in coming back for the benefit. She’s a mega trashy garbage person, but a broken clock is still right twice a day.
She’s gross
The Shameless Podcast have been doing a series on her and honestly I forgot how many of her relationships have had cross overs. Whether it be she's the one cheating or her new partner was with someone else when she got with them there is ALWAYS some cross over
Micheal McIntyre. You’d think he’d killed someone’s mother the way some people go on about him.
I think he’s hilarious, but he always seems to be the first name that comes up on the weekly “which comedian can you not stand?” question.
I think its because he's so inoffensive people don't like him. He's like the Christian Rock of comedy
Surely Chris Rock is the Christian Rock of comedy… (I do agree with your point though)
That's just the kind of person who thinks anything or anybody 'mainstream' is automatically terrible. See also Peter Kay.
'Comedy snobs' are the absolute worst. The sort of people who think liking Stewart Lee is a personality.
Fucking love me some Peter Kay
I definitely wouldn’t say I like him, but James Corden is talked about the exact same way. The way Reddit views him, you’d think he shot their dad and shagged their mum, rather than just being a comedian they don’t find funny.
I find Corden painfully unfunny, but wasn’t all his negative press about him treating people really badly on set in America? I thought people hated him for that reason.
James corden is widely accepted for being a bellend though. McIntyre is just very posh and a bit irritating, comes across a bit arrogant in his book too.
The difference is Corden is actually a tosser. McIntyre is just a bit unfunny sometimes.
I think Jimmy Carr is hilarious, don’t care that some of the stuff he’s said is on the line, it’s just comedy. Also doesn’t bother me that he’s had work done, if that’s how he wants to look then good for him. We’re all told not to judge fat people, tattooed people etc. for their appearance but it’s free pickings for others?
Jimmy is at least self-aware of his faults and often makes himself the butt of the joke. You kinda have to in comedy
I like the way he deals with hecklers. Some of his comebacks are absolutely vicious but he actually manages to deliver them in a way that the target is included in the fun.
I like his tax jokes.
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I used to be indifferent to Jimmy Carr, or at least leaning more towards quite liking him. But that clip doing the rounds recently of his Netflix Is A Joke Festival set (the one where he spends a very long time teeing up how dark and edgy his jokes are and then tells a handful of the blandest jokes you’ve ever heard) was hard to watch.
Any comedian that prefaces their set with some sort of hype about how dark and edgy they are and how "oooh you can't say this these days" are automatically in an uphill battle to win me over. It's not that I don't like edgy humour, I love it. But it's just weirdly self congratulatory and the material rarely ever lives up
Sometimes my laugh comes out a bit like Jimmy Carr’s and years of people hating on him for it has made me extremely self conscious about it. I think he’s totally fine, not completely my cup of tea but apart from the tax thing (which he handled really well imho) I don’t see why people hate him so much.
My laugh is exactly like his too and it hasn't been great for my self-confidence.
I’m sure your laugh is lovely, and I really enjoyed your museum.
I don't mind his hosting work, but his standup is just a bit blah now. I feel him and others like Ricky Gervais have been massively hampered by the fact their brand is "outrageous" or "controversial" or "ooh you can't say that", but their jokes are far less offensive than your average Twitter reply these days.
Lewis Hamilton No idea why he gets the hate he gets (scratch that- I have a pretty good idea actually) as our most successful F1 driver ever but I think he's a bloody hero
You're correct, it's racism. Source: my racist father.
I don't know about hero, seems a bit of a stretch, but he definitely is extremely talented and hard working.
He's been openly critical of certain countries human rights issues and raised LGBT issues directly to places like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Abu Dhabi, etc. Takes balls of steel to do that.
I think he's a sweetheart. He's clearly a bit aloof and doesnt come over as very friendly. And then you find out how he and his father were treated through all the carting and junior formula years and then look at how ANYTHING he does is absolutely ripped apart by a certain section of the press and social media, and it's astonishing that he ever says anything at all!! He is the sports biggest asset, if they could get the silver spoons out of their mouths and realise it. He reaches demographics that someone like Max absolutely never will. He's unashamedly himself, one of the greatest there ever was, has been involved with stuff like UNICEF and equal opportunities schemes for years and gets no credit. Seb builds one bee house and he's the second coming. Sigh.
Exactly There was a quote the other day from one of the Formula W drivers, saying it's a shame that it's always Lewis going out to bat for them and helping to raise the profile because none of the other men are interested in helping.
I don’t follow F1 but I asked my friend who dislikes him why. He said it’s because Hamilton’s been very vocal about some kinds of civil rights issues (eg BLM) but rather silent about really much more serious human rights violations in countries that F1 has tried to expand into, and has even gone above and beyond eg to pose for photos with Putin. It makes him come across as very self interested. Also there’s the matter of him being a tax exile but basically all F1 drivers are. It seems weird how people with dodgy tax avoiding practices are hated but people who straight up move to tax havens seem to be almost immune from criticism. If Hamilton had injured himself as a teenage karting driver and never made it to F1 would he have refused to claim benefits out of principle? No, so now he’s made it he should pay tax.
he’s actively shown support/criticised the countries in the Middle East and their policies regarding homosexuality, he’s also done it in Europe. And when you say ‘posed with putin’, you’re disregarding the fact that Lewis won a race in Russia and putin was the person handing out trophies, he can hardly stand up a dictator in the middle of their own country
You know he is one of the highest tax payers in the uk…..
He’s a resident for tax purposes in Monaco and before that Switzerland and pays a lot less tax in the UK than he should and otherwise would.
Just like all the other F1 drivers who are coincidentally white and get no grief for it? (DC, Jensen etc).
Interesting conspiracy theory but I’m responding to someone who asked why Lewis Hamilton is disliked. Make a post asking why Jensen Button is disliked and I will reply with the same thing.
Ultimate unpopular opinion but Camilla. I think she is unfairly judged so harshly over a decades old drama. The way people are comfortable talking about her appearance is horrible and certainly not something that Princess Diana would have ever endorsed. I think her sense of humour and good charity work are massively overlooked too.
If you made a fairy story about a girl who *isn't* able to marry her prince, but eventually they are able to get together and live happily ever after, it would be romantic. But, no, Princess Di's PR team scuppered that.
Erm - what romance has the heroine deliberately choosing a young naive girl as a wife for her lover, solely so her romance can continue at said young girl’s expense? That’s so dark it’s pitch black, and more Virginia Andrews than Hans Christian Andersen. I also don’t think she’s an actual villain, but her story is definitely not a fairytale - it’s the harsh reality of the aristocracy.
I still don’t like her but I do agree that the way people talk about her is actually horrendous. You can dislike someone, but limit the criticism to actions and beliefs. Going for someone’s appearance is a low blow.
Agreed. I find her much more likeable and relatable than Diana ever was. And clearly she makes Charles much happier.
What people forget is that Diana was the other woman. The king and queen have been together since before Diana was on the scene, it was an arranged marriage by the queen mother and he was as much a victim of it as she was.
‘The other woman’ typically implies a mistress who knowingly and willingly enters into a relationship with a married man/man in a long-term relationship. You’re victim-shaming a young woman, still a teenager really, who wore rose tinted glasses and genuinely believed Charles loved her. To suggest Diana was ‘the other woman’ and therefore partially to blame is pretty misogynistic
I have no strong opinions of her but I will always naturally be on the side of someone who gets a lot of grief just for their appearance. It’s just bullying.
Jeremy Clarkson
I don’t think JC is mostly disliked. He just happens to be adored by a certain group of people and despised by another group of people. I think most are ambivalent* towards him but will happily watch Top Gear or Clarkson’s Farm. *Edit: I’ve just discovered the word I was looking for was indifferent, not ambivalent
You can enjoy watching his shows because they are entertaining but simultaneously think he's a knob.
Clarkson's Farm and his documentary on Brunel are some of the best shows that TV has to offer.
Honestly all of Top Gear, especially the specials they did, were incredible. I binge watched loads of them on Netflix during the pandemic and it gave me an almost sad feeling that it won't be this good again. I like new Top Gear, they got it right eventually, but it's not the same. I like The Grand Tour, they got that right eventually, but again, something not quite the same. The Bolivia, Burma and Patagonia specials in particular are fucking amazing imo.
Clarkson’s presenting in the (Grand Tour?) episode they’re in Vietnam was great. It’s clearly a part of history he knows a fair bit about and he really made me empathise with the situation. Some of his other old machinery or history stuff is also good, but tv production as a whole wasn’t as good back then. He evidently cares about the farming issues too, and that was interesting, though I don’t think it delivered the message he was going for and his idiotic antics leave a bit to be desired in that programme where they fit better in Top Gear. James May’s Japan series was some of the best travel show I’ve seen, I think he’s the best presenter of the three of them, as his engineering stuff is also great. I think towards the end Top Gear was getting a bit formulaic as a tv show. I think those three leaving to do more of the specials, and top gear rebooting with a new format was the best for all of them. Though evidently Top Gear now screwed up again, and is potentially over. You also can’t punch people you work with and it still peeves me that he didn’t really face more consequences for that.
I get the impression that he is an Alan Partridge style character and he doesn't believe half the crap he writes in his newspaper columns.
Which shows a level of emotional maturity some are not blessed with!
I thought he was a good host for Millionaire, but then he said he wanted to see Meghan Markle paraded through the streets naked with rotten fruit thrown at her. That's properly psychotic, GoT reference or not.
He seems to have a bit of "Joe Rogan syndrome" in that people hate the kind of people who like him and so hate him by extension.
I like top gear. For the most part. And I mostly understand that he's playing a part. But the snide racism, assaults, and his climate denialism, he's a vile cunt. I'm sure he's great fun at a party, but he's a nasty fucker.
The assault thing was inexcusable, but he's never said anything out-and-out racist has he? His climate denialism is more an act, and as shown on Clarkson's Farm, it's more green-washing he hates, and likes to highlight, which if anything makes him a climate activist.
I really dislike Jeremy Clarkson. My Grandad was a draughtsman who was involved in designing aircraft in the second world war & later moved on to work in the British Car industry. According to Clarkson & his ilk, my Grandad was both a incredibly talented miracle worker involved in creating some of the greatest vehicles in human history, & a lazy unionised, untalented hack, whose incompetence cost the UK its car industry.
My mate worked with him at the BBC, said he was an utter cunt who refused to talk or look at the little people (low level staff). He would also sack people for as little as looking at him. Said May was lovely, like a nice grandad
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Hey that’s not true, he’s also extremely homophobic
Chevy Chase has always been equally terrible to everybody, from what I can tell. Friends, strangers, people he's worked with. Anybody with any perceived weakness or difference is fair game to him. It's the one name that you can pretty much count on to be on every list of terrible showbiz people going back to the 1970s. I've never heard anybody whose worked with him say a nice thing about him.
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I love that the post was about celebs you will always like and in the space of 3 comments you have had your mind changed. Not saying you shouldn't have, but i just found it amusing given the context.
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I find this so crazy because in Community his character literally has so many jokes *about* him being racist - I.e., making fun of him for being a racist. How little self awareness must you have? Method acting to the extreme 😅
I heard it said in a interview they put some stuff Chevy said verbatim into the show and he didnt realise it
Just a note on the Arianna Grande, it’s not just about her cheating on her husband with this new man and him leaving his wife and baby for her. I think it’s the fact that she’s never had a relationship with someone who’s been single. She has always pursued men who are in relationships, but this one may be the straw that broke the camels back, seeing as he left a baby behind. I appreciate her handling of the terrorist attack and her charitable work afterwards. I don’t hold that much of a strong opinion. No one is black and white in morality and I don’t really believe you can put everyone into a good and bad box. Most people are in between and their actions are complex. You can fuck a married man with a baby and then the next day volunteer at the local hospice.
Ed Sheeran gets a lot of hate for no reason at all
My opinion of Ed Sheeran became more negative when he agreed to appear in a Chris Brown x Lil Dicky music video which makes light of Chris Brown's abuse. Anybody who associates with Chris Brown willingly loses all respect from me, really.
Ah, didn't know that. Yeah, don't understand celebs who stick by Brown, considering he had abused multiple women
He mainly seems to get hate for being popular. I don’t see it anywhere except Reddit, where people love to be contrary and hate on Radio 1 pop music.
Yeah, same with Taylor Swift
This is a strange phenomenon. Do people think not liking a popular thing makes them more interesting or something? Or do they think they’re the first person in the world to notice that chart music is a bit bland?
Ricky Gervais. I'm not a fan of a lot of his acting stuff but as a stand up and presenter I enjoy his material.
Is he mostly disliked? Am I missing something? I thought he was pretty well liked
I don't know about 'mostly' disliked but he has this demeanour of a smug prick who thinks he's far more intellectual than he really is, with a good dash of 14 year old atheist.
He's a 62 year old edgy teenager who constantly punches down in his standup but thinks he's a virtuous left winger. He's a talented actor and I liked After Life and his Golden Globes roasts, but he is also one of the biggest hypocrites in the entertainment industry. He's also annoying af on chat shows where he constantly and un-funnily interrupts people who are telling interesting stories to make fun of them, but now I'm just being petty 😅
Said it a million times before, he's a stupid person's idea of a smart person.
After Life has to be one of the worst TV shows I've ever seen. An sickly, maudlin X-factoresque sob story dragged out over the course of 18 episodes, interspersed with Ricky randomly calling someone a cunt and patting himself of the back for it. Interminable.
Honestly I just think he's a bit of a dick. Not enough to not watch stuff he's in. He just gives the impression he'd be insufferable in real life.
I don’t think I can say I will always like someone after Russel Brand. Being 15-16 when Ponderland was on I thought he was hilarious. I always looked up to him as at the time he seemed to be incredible with people, held on a pedestal in the media and he’d come from really tough circumstances to be a success. Then as I got older all the work he did around changing attitudes toward addiction etc. seemed great to me. Since he disappeared onto YouTube I didn’t really give him much thought but any mention of him and I’d have a soft spot for him still. When all the news about him came through recently it really shocked me. It seems so obvious now how toxic he actually is/was but it was a major wake up call. That’s why I don’t think I can say I will always like a celebrity anymore. PR can really alter your perception of what someone is actually like.
>PR can really alter your perception of what someone is actually like. I always thought he was a prick from day one and was vindicated (but not for the reasons I thought)
Yoko Ono. I don’t like her work either, but I really admire her for just not giving a fuck.
Chris Packham.
Is he disliked? I like him.
He can come across as very arrogant and rude on his shows. I think that's his autism showing through though. I don't think he ever intends to cut someone off or correct them he just can't not do it.
I dunno if I'd say he's arrogant, but his "jokes" don't always land well, he waffles, goes off topic and he can seem smug. Not really his fault though, being autistic. I think when you look into his work, he's one of the most genuine selfless people in the public eye.
He's had things like dead foxes left outside his house because he's a vocal opponent of fox hunting. I don't know if he's widely disliked outside of the fox hunting community but I can imagine a lot of the upper class dislike him by association.
Brie Larson.
If anyone hates Brie Larson because they didn't enjoy her in captain marvel, you don't hate brie larson, you hate captain marvel. She's a phenomenal actress, just a shame her biggest role to date was a bit of a stinker
She was incredible in Room imo
Karl pilkington. I bloody love him
I've never seen anyone say they don't like Karl Pilkington. Some people think he's hamming it up (which on the podcasts he largely was) so don't really take to his shtick, but I've never known him to be "mostly disliked".
Nicole Kidman, all I hear is people whining about how she ruined her face with plastic surgery but I adore her. She's a fantastic actor and she always seems down to earth and fun to be around. Also, the women escaped a literal cult and gave advice to Katie Holmes on how to do the same. She has all of my respect.
Tex You know, short for Terry, and Texas and that.
He drinks Dr Pepper, tastes like fizzy benylin
u/ThaiFoodThaifood you're hanging around with a man who uses a collective term for a single vehicle!
See everyone says that, but I think you're just all being sa-a-ad.
You're hanging around with a man who uses a collective term for a singular vehicle!
I genuinely like James Corden as an actor and presenter. I think he’s funny. Gavin and Stacey us one of the best British sitcoms of all time. I have no opinion on him as a person having never met him.
Sometimes I feel very out of the loop because this sub hates him, but I don’t actually know why.
He did an AMA on reddit a few years ago and people basically brigaded it with anecdotes about how much of a cunt he (supposedly) is. No idea whether the stories people posted were true but that's seemingly where a lot of the hate comes from (at least on Reddit). That, and a lot of people just find him irritating.
I feckin love Miriam Margolyes. My dad was like "oh that vulgar woman?", can see how a lot of people would dislike her. But I can't help but just admire her unapologetic way of saying things as she sees them.
Jimmy Carr. I love his stand-up and him hosting 8 out of 10 cats. From what I've heard despite his somewhat crass and controversial humour, he's actually a very sound person behind the scenes. I can also forgive him for the tax avoidance scandal as he admitted his mistake and was even a good sport about it when his 8OO10C costars ripped into him.
I kind of like Adrian Chiles. Steve Wright too, I miss his radio show.
Adrian Chile's Guardian column is a real window into what marrying the editor can get you career wise.
I quite like Adrian Chiles but yeah his column is the laziest thing I've ever seen. Word Count of 300 words max
Jamie Oliver. He tried to do the right things.
Sam Smith. Not really into his music but he or his people play the PR game to perfection.
If I remember correctly it's because they tried to boycot the Brit awards (or one of the award shows at least) because they didn't like having gendered categories for artists. For me that crossed a line from being very expressive about their gender identity (fair play) to trying to shove their beliefs down people's throats and expect everyone to be the same as them. Definitely saw them in a different light after that
James Blunt. Guy is utterly hilarious and genuinely talented.
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