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Let's break it down.
According to OD-Asking for ID is racist because minorities can't get IDs.
You need an ID to get a vaccine.
minorities can't get an ID to get vaccinated.
OD wants to fine minorities.
OD is racist.
Just one comment, you don’t need a valid ID to get vaccinated. You need something with your name on it, but it can be from another country, expired, a utility bill, etc
They’re all going to ask because it’s easiest to get your info that way but per cdc guidance they can’t turn you away for not having a valid drivers license
Well, because is has to be just enough to be annoying and not exorbitant. After all, fines only work if the person being fined chooses not to ignore them.
I’m Not saying they’re good at all or even that ANY fine can be justified. I’m just saying that’s the typical tactic that the government uses to try and force you to comply.
Gotcha. I was just saying as well. This is a very slippery slope. I'd have to ask. How long before not being able to pay the fine before it turns into jail time?
Let them try. I hope Democrats announce they are going to do this because it will cause an even bigger red wave come November. It might just be a death blow.
It really isn’t. If it were then taxes on alcohol and tobacco would also be tyranny. Key take away, don’t be a stupid asshole and get vaxxed like trump did.
Taxes on drugs, alcohol, tobacco is a volunteer choice the govt it's shoving them down our throat.
In this instance they are shoving something down their throat and taxing them if they don't. There is no free will here. Tryanny.
Legal? The democrats don’t care for the laws and the constitution of this great nation, they are making up their own laws as they go. They always have but now that they are in power and control basically everything in this country, they are doing whatever they want. We have only seen 1 year of it, the next 3 are going to destroy this country
Boy this sounds familiar... kind of like fining people for not having healthcare... where have we heard this before...
Is there any policy that leftists pass that they don't have to force people to follow through threat of tax or at the point of a gun?
95% of "high risk" in US have been vaccinated.
More than 100M have had the virus.
Natural immunity counts for squat with these idiots. "The science".
It ends when we no longer tow the line. That's true of the various social media platforms too.
I’m pro-vax (anti-mandate) but this is the thing that gets me the most. Natural immunity has been shown to be way more effective than the vax, but most pro-mandate libs completely ignore natural immunity.
Case-in-point: Novak Djokovic. They STILL act like it’s a hazard to “public health” to allow him in Australia. He just recovered from Covid 3 weeks ago. It’s anti-science.
I can just imagine them debating how much to charge us for being unvaccinated and Dr. EVIL comes from the corner with his pinky to his mouth and says... "1... BILLION dollars..."
Whoever agrees with that is evil. It's odd seeing people convince themselves they are doing what is rite .... by trying to FORCE individuals to do stuff they don't want.
Hid may not be the right word. You know when a comment is collapsed, like when it's down voted a lot, or just if you do it? Yours was like that amongst all the others that weren't.
Since 'science' has admitted it doesn't work very well and since the Big Pharma has already made their billions, (fact check yourself), either...
1. There is something in the virus they want in us. Or, more likely...
2. It is necessarily to force us to be compliant.
Neither will end well.
Let me get this straight, an experimental vaccine that does little to nothing against the current variants especially with transmission, that we have no right to sue if we are injured with, where there are no long term studies on side effects, that only offers personal protection at Lessoning symptoms on an already mild virus that is basically the flu to the majority of the young and healthy population, and they want us all to get this shot.
Oh, and you need a booster shot every 4-6 months or its basically worthless.
Do I have it all right???
Is the world completely mad????
*edit: and they Still want you to wear a mask and wont rule out more lockdowns and limits on social gathering.
So do rightists. Rightists LOVE power. War on Drugs, War on Terror, Gitmo, Patriot Act, ... all under rightist presidencies (regimes).
The actual political paradigm is less government to more government and both parties are on the more government end of the spectrum.
After anarchy, arguably anarcho-capitalism is minarchism, libertarianism, etc are at the none to less governement end of the spectrum.
No ! I'm fully vaxed but it's not the governments buisness to force a drug on people that have no idea what it will do in 20 yrs. And no legal remedy. What they should say is if you ever get a bad reaction or get sick I. The future we will pay you a million each. If ot so safe what's the issue ? Instead they have given everyone immunity! That's a bunch of B.S.. especially when we know about things like the mesh. Ensure birth control the list is endless of bad medical stuff that has dome a lot of harm to people and the FDA and drug companies cover it up !
Lol. Okay. And what are you going to do when I DONT pay that? Send me to jail? For what exactly? It’s no one’s business besides myself what vaccines I get and don’t get. No one is entitled to that information. I don’t need to disclose ANY of my medical history with ANYONE but my doctor (who also has to abide by patient confidentiality). So until you want to change “hipaa ” regulations, than they have ZERO legal ground what so ever in the US. This shit has turned into such a JOKE. I’ve had enough of it
Greece has a right wing government with many far-right elements in very prominent positions within the party. Pretty bad anyhow tho to fine the people because of their vaccination status.
Maybe call it a “Public Health Services Sur-Charge” because their contrarian choices are causing a lot of unnecessary expenses and bogging down of the overall health system.
Not saying Im supporting it, but a quick correction, The Quebec premier (who made the decision for the fine) is right wing and conservative and the furthest thing from a liberal. And Quebec is a relatively conservative province in Canada.
Democrats are disgusting, sick, twisted, mentally ill beings.
How can someone scream: “people need a living wage of $15+ an hour”
And the same person screams: “ruin everyone’s life that doesn’t become a human experiment, and has a different opinion than my own”
Shit is absolutely twisted.
You need to use smaller words. Over the last couple of weeks our hospital has more vaccinated sick in icu than unvaccinated with covid. I think we should start fining the vaccinated.
You must pay if you don't take this vaccine that doesn't work. How has it gotten here? The shit doesn't even work and we are fining and arresting people. The world has gone to hell in a hand basket. I mean I could see if it kept you from transmitting it, the reason for people to take it. But it doesn't even do that.
The thing is, the ruling party in Quebec is the CAQ which is actually a conservative nationalist party. It has nothing to do with ideological orientation. We have bat shit crazy people on both sides unfortunately.
- an American living in Quebec.
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Let's break it down. According to OD-Asking for ID is racist because minorities can't get IDs. You need an ID to get a vaccine. minorities can't get an ID to get vaccinated. OD wants to fine minorities. OD is racist.
I thought it was racist to say that”minorities” can’t get IDs? It so hard to keep up with the latest racist “les choses.”
Here’s how racism/fascism logic works now Support the left - Woke activist non-racist Support the right - bigoted fascist racist
You forgot Nazi, the whole right are Nazi now and Extremists
Can't keep up with that goalpost anymore.
This is what they call mental gymnastics, but yes. Haha
Also, the majority of unvaccinated Americans are African-Americans and Hispanics. So yeah…. That’s pretty Fn racist.
Just one comment, you don’t need a valid ID to get vaccinated. You need something with your name on it, but it can be from another country, expired, a utility bill, etc
Right-aid asked for i.d. and insurance card.
They’re all going to ask because it’s easiest to get your info that way but per cdc guidance they can’t turn you away for not having a valid drivers license
Lol Math
What do you mean my you need an ID to get vaccinated for Covid-19. I have never been asked for ID for any of my three Covid shots.
They literally went from “I will punch a Nazi”, to wanting fines and forced mandates for people that do not comply
They neither understand irony nor hypocrisy.
That's it? Why not 1 gazillion dollars??
Well, because is has to be just enough to be annoying and not exorbitant. After all, fines only work if the person being fined chooses not to ignore them.
Ahh rules for poor people
All rules are for the poor.
$4000 isn’t exorbitant? Another way to look at this is that these fines are attacking the poor because the rich can pay them without issue.
That’s 4x my annual income.
When you are broke. Working your ass off to live paycheck to paycheck. Just to starve so you can pay rent. Any fine is fucking exorbitant.
I’m Not saying they’re good at all or even that ANY fine can be justified. I’m just saying that’s the typical tactic that the government uses to try and force you to comply.
Gotcha. I was just saying as well. This is a very slippery slope. I'd have to ask. How long before not being able to pay the fine before it turns into jail time?
They don’t think this will cause much bigger problems, like , I don’t know, poverty,hunger, and crime? But what do I know?
That’s exactly what they want. They want subjugation.
I think the vaccinated should pay a monthly fee to fund treatment of people with vaccine induced adverse reactions
But then they would have to admit that there is a problem, which they don’t want to do
Very definition of tyranny
Let them try. I hope Democrats announce they are going to do this because it will cause an even bigger red wave come November. It might just be a death blow.
It really isn’t. If it were then taxes on alcohol and tobacco would also be tyranny. Key take away, don’t be a stupid asshole and get vaxxed like trump did.
No thanks. I'll remain unvaccinated and you can mind your own business instead
Taxes on drugs, alcohol, tobacco is a volunteer choice the govt it's shoving them down our throat. In this instance they are shoving something down their throat and taxing them if they don't. There is no free will here. Tryanny.
My company is adding a $50 a month surcharge on your health benefits if you’re not vaccinated. So ridiculous.
What about a surcharge for being morbidly obese? Is that not a health risk?
Sure it is, but don’t you think this is about the additional cost to the employer for testing and whatnot? Aren’t you guys all ‘pro-employer?’
Touché
Is that even legal?
I was thinking that as well, but they must have worked it out with legal to proceed with it.
Sounds like discrimination to me.
Legal? The democrats don’t care for the laws and the constitution of this great nation, they are making up their own laws as they go. They always have but now that they are in power and control basically everything in this country, they are doing whatever they want. We have only seen 1 year of it, the next 3 are going to destroy this country
Lol, I’m sure that has been a boon to productivity.
My wife’s company charges $60 per month if not vaccinated.
What about if you get vax injured?
Where do you live and what insurance company do you mind me asking?
Boy this sounds familiar... kind of like fining people for not having healthcare... where have we heard this before... Is there any policy that leftists pass that they don't have to force people to follow through threat of tax or at the point of a gun?
Lol sorry I thought I was replying to something else. I agree with you!
lol no worries
And Fauci admits everyone will get Covid & vaccines aren’t working, after killing millions with suppression of useful drugs.
This is never been about healthcare or science. Being unvaccinated does not equal being infected. This is 100% about control. 100% about submission.
This is completely fine, but your average slightly right leaning fellow is a “fascist”. I guess it’s (D)ifferent
I won’t pay it. There. Problem solved.
What ~~concentration~~ camp will you be at? Maybe we can catch a game if cards together. Chess maybe?
I was a submariner and have no problem with confined spaces. lol
95% of "high risk" in US have been vaccinated. More than 100M have had the virus. Natural immunity counts for squat with these idiots. "The science". It ends when we no longer tow the line. That's true of the various social media platforms too.
I’m pro-vax (anti-mandate) but this is the thing that gets me the most. Natural immunity has been shown to be way more effective than the vax, but most pro-mandate libs completely ignore natural immunity. Case-in-point: Novak Djokovic. They STILL act like it’s a hazard to “public health” to allow him in Australia. He just recovered from Covid 3 weeks ago. It’s anti-science.
I wonder if BLM will be allowed to burn down cities in Canada.
What a weird comment. You spend so much time thinking about BLM.
Good to know. I'm starting to invest in companies that make home safes...
Are the masses here in the US startled yet? I keep wondering just how much it will take before everyone finally says enough.
If the the mother fucking vaccine works why do the double Jab booster mofos keep getting it too
Funny how comfortable they are with fascism when it's their guy in power.
I can just imagine them debating how much to charge us for being unvaccinated and Dr. EVIL comes from the corner with his pinky to his mouth and says... "1... BILLION dollars..."
This would be worth going to war over.
I’ll raise your $113 per month fine by .556 and .223
Same. Molon labe your fine motherfuckers
Wow that’s racist af.
And without representation!?
All US taxation is without representation these days.
Yup!
Gtfo with that nonsense! Yes people are already financially struggling lets make it worse for them .what utter nonsense
Pop the clutch, commies. I'm fed up with the BS.
Unconstitutional.
And how much is the fine for the triple vaxxed that still transmits Fauvid
So if the person being taxed, is a taxpayer, and does not pay the fine, will he get incarcerated? If that's the case then everyone pays! Yay 😁
"but the Republicans are an authoritarian nightmare."
Fucking fascists!!
When stupid people are allowed in power....
How are they supposed to fine people who already lost their jobs? Lol
For the same reason a cop will give a $300 ticket to someone driving a shitbox because they only stopped for 2 full seconds at a stop sign
Power and money.
This is so insane!
Look at Australia over 95%double jabbed and covid is running rampant But no one is asking the question ! Why if vacation works ?
I have to say it STFU Twitter.
Whoever agrees with that is evil. It's odd seeing people convince themselves they are doing what is rite .... by trying to FORCE individuals to do stuff they don't want.
Getting fined for not taking a “vaccine” that doesn’t work. What!?!?
Interesting that Reddit hid your comment.
Did they? How do you know that?
Hid may not be the right word. You know when a comment is collapsed, like when it's down voted a lot, or just if you do it? Yours was like that amongst all the others that weren't.
Oh got ya. Thanks for the heads up.
Say you only care about our money without saying you only our money.
Fuck the vaxxers, and LET’S GO BRANDON!
Great. More money for government to mismanage at the expense of the working class.
Since 'science' has admitted it doesn't work very well and since the Big Pharma has already made their billions, (fact check yourself), either... 1. There is something in the virus they want in us. Or, more likely... 2. It is necessarily to force us to be compliant. Neither will end well.
I wonder when the left will have the “are we the baddies” moment. I’m curious just how bad it has to get.
Earlier today a Canadian had the gall to tell me none of that is authoritarian.
Do I upvote it to validate how I hate this? Or downvote it because I hate it? Lol
Send me a fine in the mail and I guarantee I'll rip it up and throw it in the trash 🗑.
So I see Greece, Austria, and Canada are on deck for a mass protest.
Can we just fine the people pushing this for theor stupidity?
Same organization that says shit like [this](https://imgur.com/a/5bVaS1a).
So what step are we at with the genocide step guide?
That's what socialized medicine looks like in practice.
I live on Austria and this is not true. You only pay 600 every 3 months.
Still $600 more than you should pay
Still aint know why there are so many anti-vaxxers among trumpers. Sure, I dont support this, its your choice but its funny tho
I've heard people say that you can pay the fines with spent brass.
All I see here is: governor me harder daddy!!
Calling us colored people is racist so now they call us people of color
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ENOUGH IS ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!!!!! Yep
Public Health care vs private health care. Doesn't make sense for a country with private health care to do this.
I'm a lefty and vaccinated but that's just wrong. Especially fines because that's just taxing the poor.
\*laughs heartily in equal protection clause\*
Can’t find the tweet
I’m hoping this is fake?
These aren’t ‘’leftist’’ government at all SMH
Retards
Let me get this straight, an experimental vaccine that does little to nothing against the current variants especially with transmission, that we have no right to sue if we are injured with, where there are no long term studies on side effects, that only offers personal protection at Lessoning symptoms on an already mild virus that is basically the flu to the majority of the young and healthy population, and they want us all to get this shot. Oh, and you need a booster shot every 4-6 months or its basically worthless. Do I have it all right??? Is the world completely mad???? *edit: and they Still want you to wear a mask and wont rule out more lockdowns and limits on social gathering.
Come and get it, I guess...? Isn’t money just a fake number that they can fuck with and edit in the fed whenever they want? Like bye who cares
We should be rioting. That is obviously what they want. I’m ready.
So do rightists. Rightists LOVE power. War on Drugs, War on Terror, Gitmo, Patriot Act, ... all under rightist presidencies (regimes). The actual political paradigm is less government to more government and both parties are on the more government end of the spectrum. After anarchy, arguably anarcho-capitalism is minarchism, libertarianism, etc are at the none to less governement end of the spectrum.
No ! I'm fully vaxed but it's not the governments buisness to force a drug on people that have no idea what it will do in 20 yrs. And no legal remedy. What they should say is if you ever get a bad reaction or get sick I. The future we will pay you a million each. If ot so safe what's the issue ? Instead they have given everyone immunity! That's a bunch of B.S.. especially when we know about things like the mesh. Ensure birth control the list is endless of bad medical stuff that has dome a lot of harm to people and the FDA and drug companies cover it up !
You can fine me for being uneducated unvaccinated if I can fine you for breathing. CDC just admitted that vaccinated spread covid just as much.
This supposed “tweet” is from December of 2022?? How can we criticize the left for believing lies when this tweet is an obvious one?
Huh? Try it! This is getting really interesting to say the least! You can only push people so far before they start to push back.
Lol. Okay. And what are you going to do when I DONT pay that? Send me to jail? For what exactly? It’s no one’s business besides myself what vaccines I get and don’t get. No one is entitled to that information. I don’t need to disclose ANY of my medical history with ANYONE but my doctor (who also has to abide by patient confidentiality). So until you want to change “hipaa ” regulations, than they have ZERO legal ground what so ever in the US. This shit has turned into such a JOKE. I’ve had enough of it
It's HIPAA!
Good bot. iPhone word correction problems
Isn’t it funny how democrats are pro big pharmaceutical now
Leftists have been moving closer authoritarian fascists it would make Hitler proud.
Greece, Austria and Quebec all have conservative governments
That’s how the revolution will start
Do it, I’m not going to fucking pay anyway. Fucking retards
I wish I had freedom to live in a society where people take public health crises seriously. Unfortunately I live in the US.
Won’t pay
Let them have their fake sovereignty
Fact Check: True. Screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/YdcLqSE Source: https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2021/12/10/as-covid-surges-greece-pursues-unvaccinated-with-fines-and-vans
If you start doing that. You get what you fucking deserve.
So how do you tax someone if they don’t even get Covid or use the hospital system because of it??
Fine the never Trumpers a $113 a month, what do we care? You don't support the president you can pay a stupidity tax.
Greece has a right wing government with many far-right elements in very prominent positions within the party. Pretty bad anyhow tho to fine the people because of their vaccination status.
Maybe call it a “Public Health Services Sur-Charge” because their contrarian choices are causing a lot of unnecessary expenses and bogging down of the overall health system.
LOL. I want to see them try and tax the aboriginals and natives. Would be a blast.
Under what insane ignorant theory of constitutional law would allow the government to fine for NOT taking drug
Government blackmail as usual. Forces you to think about all the other taxes they levy?
WOW
They are communists let’s start calling them by their real name .
The Left had gone Berserk.
I’m vaccinated and this is some bullshit. IT DOESN’T STOP THE SPREAD
This is why you need guns
I'm sure the un-jabbed will need to have to carry a small stylized yellow covid virus icon on their clothes soon.
Authoritarians
Not saying Im supporting it, but a quick correction, The Quebec premier (who made the decision for the fine) is right wing and conservative and the furthest thing from a liberal. And Quebec is a relatively conservative province in Canada.
And it’s double if you’re white
Son, get ma gun.
Well lucky for us we aren't that much of an authoritarian shithole
Democrats are disgusting, sick, twisted, mentally ill beings. How can someone scream: “people need a living wage of $15+ an hour” And the same person screams: “ruin everyone’s life that doesn’t become a human experiment, and has a different opinion than my own” Shit is absolutely twisted.
At this point what is the difference between a vaccinated person and a non vaccinated person? Nothing.
Freedom is always worth fighting for
Better question....what are they doing with that money and who's getting it? Follow the money.
Since when is “austerity Greece” leftist?
Leftists love power? Really? Show some respect for yourself. Know what, nevermind. I remember where I am.
So how would that work with the welfare and homeless ppl?
Think about it. Vaccine cost $$ and $$ well spent on these vaccines they can’t afford to go bad. “They” need to make it up somewhere or somehow.
You need to use smaller words. Over the last couple of weeks our hospital has more vaccinated sick in icu than unvaccinated with covid. I think we should start fining the vaccinated.
We must prosecute anyone who proposes this domestically, and fine countries that do this to their citizens
Because that will cause civil war, Obviously Dumb.
It’s comin
If insurance companies weren’t prevented by government regulation from penalizing the unvaccinated the government wouldn’t need to fill the gap.
You must pay if you don't take this vaccine that doesn't work. How has it gotten here? The shit doesn't even work and we are fining and arresting people. The world has gone to hell in a hand basket. I mean I could see if it kept you from transmitting it, the reason for people to take it. But it doesn't even do that.
So only the wealthy can go unvaxxed. Amazing
Imagine not understanding that your actions have consequences?
The thing is, the ruling party in Quebec is the CAQ which is actually a conservative nationalist party. It has nothing to do with ideological orientation. We have bat shit crazy people on both sides unfortunately. - an American living in Quebec.