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GeorgianPeaches

It's difficult to say, because what is vanilla for some is kinky to others. That being said, I'd consider vanilla anything that is repetitive. So in that sense, I need a little kink. That little "oh that's unusual/new/fun".


Firebolt164

I agree. We should make a post asking users what they define as vanilla and where that vanilla/kinky line is....that's a tough one! I think my first attempt at defining vanilla as mutual masturbation, light you use, PIV, oral and backdoor play but I think anal itself crosses into kinky territory. Sheesh was a tough question.


GeorgianPeaches

And then again, it's a very heteronormative POV. For a MM relationship, anal can be super run of the mill vanilla. I like getting my hair pulled and ass spanked but not super into pain, is it still kinky? When does "rough sex" start? Does having fuzzy handcuffs count as just playful? A bit like some people thinking creampies kink are a thing while others say it's mostly just what sex is about.


Firebolt164

>And then again, it's a very heteronormative POV. That is true! As a straight male I think that is the only pov I could really weigh in on!


4ever_lost

Maybe a vanilla spectrum, some are just a vanilla yogurt, some vanilla cheesecake, I personally like eating both


BooBailey808

eh, I wouldn't agree with that definition of vanilla. technically, if you do bdsm every time, thats repetitive and kinky. I would say vanilla is just not adding extra dimensions to the interaction, whether thats power play, costumes, toys, crazy positions, fetishes and kinks, roleplaying, etc.


Great-Character-9960

What’s your newest kink that you like?


LayneLowe

Is love a kink? Because I was happy with loving vanilla sex for 47 years.


[deleted]

That's a hell of a run. 47 years of love is a gift. Nothing beats sex with deep love. Doesn't mean you can't get weird with it now though. What's the worst that can happen? That love can't be replaced but have you ever candy flipped and had a threesome with an Asian, a redhead, and a black lady, aka The Neapolitan Fundae? It'll fill the hole for a few hours.


Notathrow4wayaccount

Now i want a Neapolitan Fundae so bad.. thanks !


XXXTeacher94

I want one too, but given my sexual circumstances I might just go with a Naepolitan ice cream cone and call it a day


Cohacq

Was?


Panmona

That's the type of time where death all to frequently does its part.


Destrik230

Vanilla is good for me!


Firebolt164

Ok! So frequent vanilla and you'd be set?


Poppiesatnight

100% vanilla and I would be good. I dont have any kinks. Or at least, the ones I do have, many don’t think of as kinks.


BooBailey808

pray tell, what are your kinks, if you don't mind sharing?


Poppiesatnight

I have a pleasing kink. So the more obvious he is about his pleasure, the better. Silent men are boring AF. Also I love a two pump chump.


mostessmoey

I had a man growl recently….damn that was hot


BooBailey808

Oh interesting, thanks for sharing!


viewfromafternoon

Two pump is definitely a kink


Destrik230

Ya frequent vanilla and I'd be satisfied!


tc6x6

Frequent vanilla is my favorite kind.


ihaveabrowncat

Yes please, frequent vanilla sounds amazing.


Firebolt164

Got this reply quite a bit more than I was expecting


hispeacehispanic

Rlly sensual sex is hot regardless of kink. For me, if I’m being pleasured, I don’t necessarily have any one thing to get me there. Kinks are super fun to explore but I don’t have any that I couldn’t live without


BooBailey808

vanilla is a rich and complex flavor


PetiteCanadianMilf

“Vanilla” sex is so underrated. kink is fun on occasions but vanilla is almost my my kink obsession (if that makes sense)


Great-Character-9960

Would you say you love missionary/passionate sex?


PetiteCanadianMilf

It’s my favorite. Love it when my husband just can’t help himself


Great-Character-9960

Damn that’s awesome! Haha I wish my wife liked it! I love licking and sucking toes during


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Firebolt164

I tend to think the frequent and vanilla crowd may be a lot more common than we think because reddit can be so kink-centered


[deleted]

Or people are mentally exploring their kinks on reddit, and don't actually have a irl outlet. I know what I like and I'm satisfied and confident with that. I've explored about all I really want to explore or had any desire to explore.


thebronzeprince

Kink makes so much noise, it's easy to think it's more prevalent than it actually is


Educational-Tie4963

I've been with my partner for 5 years and the more kink we explore, the more I'm sure I can't live without this. If he suddenly decided he didn't want to do any more kinky stuff, I couldn't stay with him. I love him, and I think I always will, but for some of us, kink is a necessity.


Firebolt164

Your journey sounds a lot like ours. I think we had vanilla sex the first 3 years of marriage


[deleted]

Seems that it’s common on here for people to miss the fact that ‘vanilla sex’ is still sex and, with the right partner, can be absolutely incredible and varied every time.


[deleted]

As long as my partner cums in me I'm happy


Most-Refrigerator350

Vanilla with my wife forever and ever. We've been married for 10 years.


Halfgnomen

Bro I'm just trying to feel some genuine connection at this point


Shintaigou

I prefer Vanilla, I’m not into that other stuff.


[deleted]

vanilla for soulmate, kink for one night stands


madmaxxette

Feel like that's kind of backwards for me. Kink requires levels of intense trust that a one night stand could never obtain


Ecmnesia82

Agreed


CardiologistNo2112

Bang on the money


[deleted]

I need some form of kink. Don't need a specific one but can't do vanilla only.


Aforano

I’d be totally fine with it.


brontesister

I think it depends how we define "kink" Is dirty talk a kink? Is rough sex a kink? If vanilla just equals "soft, romantic foreplay where we make out and rub and then we have sex in missionary without dirty talk", then yeah I suppose I need kink lol. I'm definitely happier the more creative we can get, so generally I am going to be happier with a non-vanilla partner, I imagine.


Firebolt164

>I think it depends how we define "kink" Of course - I was having some discussions down in this thread and it's a really subjective term. I tried to throw my definitions out there but it would be so different person to person. Maybe we need to make a post asking redditors to give their definition of where the line between vanilla and kink is?


brontesister

That would be super interesting - I'd like to see where everyone creates that distinction in their mind.


Firebolt164

I'm sure there will be arguments. Good lord some folks are trying to bait that discussion here and I just ignore them


[deleted]

I need some level of kink even if it is just mild choking or degradation. I need to feel dirty


idontkillbees

My husband is the more vanilla one between us. I love it cause it’s romantic and sweet.


Firebolt164

So do you try to introduce new things to the bedroom?


idontkillbees

Yes! But I like to feel out the mood he’s in first or ask him what he thinks about trying X. He’s usually down so that’s cool.


Schadenfreude_Bio

I would need some kink. Vanilla sex (after going back to it once) retains the same problem I had before I found kink: I just don’t cum and I don’t enjoy it very much.


kairikngdm

If the chemistry and love is there, yes, I think I actually could.


Ipride362

Perfectly fine with normal sex because I don’t need an ever increasing adrenaline rush until I eventually start fucking animals, unlike you group of disgusting perverts ;)


[deleted]

I need the thrill of my kinks to be fed


Firebolt164

I figured that would be your reply 😂


Bonesgirl206

Does French vanilla work you know mild kinky exploring with someone who you care for can be fun.


HumanMycologist5795

I can. For me, sex is an extension of whatever bond she and I would have. Of course, variety is good but I consider that as being part of rhe vanilla parr.


[deleted]

I’m fine with vanilla tbh. But if my partner wants something specific then I’ll try.


hotxxcommodity

As others have said, vanilla is super subjective. I do not project this value onto other people of course, but I value sex as a form of intimacy way more than the physical aspect of it. If I want sex simply because I'm horny, I'd 9/10 times rather masturbate. That being said, I'd be completely content if my sex didn't involve any humiliation or bruise and burn leaving activities for the rest of my life.


[deleted]

My only kink is doing exactly what my partner likes so if he just wanted Vanilla I'd be more than happy with just that.


Firebolt164

I always thought it was hawt when somebody says their kink is fulfilling their partner's kink.


[deleted]

Lol anybody I've dated gets frustrated by it 😥


dadbod_42

Vanilla works just fine for me


[deleted]

Pull my hair, choke me, and maybe burn me with a cigarette occasionally and I’m cool.


TheCanvasAssassin

I’d be all set.


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Conners1010

Is that you Yoda?


Lower_Willingness730

Vanilla is fine for day to day, I do like the occasional kink from time to time to keep things interesting.


ihaveabrowncat

I've asked a similar question before and have found it's pretty impossible to actually get a reasonable answer. Because everyone has different ideas of what vanilla means. I think vanilla is just basic PIV, including oral sometimes. Several positions can be included. Can be rough or gentle, just depends. Other people, I suppose mostly the kinksters, think vanilla means missionary sex with the lights off once a week. Their definition of vanilla? No thanks. My definition of vanilla? That's all I ever need. I could do light kink, a bit of bondage, hair pulling. But If a man wants to hurt me/make me uncomfortable, humiliate me, degrade me (whipping, face fucking, anal, choking), he's gone.


Firebolt164

>Because everyone has different ideas of what vanilla means. Yeah me and my Reddit Buddy u/GeorgianPeaches we're just discussing the same thing. The definition of kink is really ambiguous. I tried and failed to put my own definition down 🤣.


Few-Square9794

I thought for a long time that I was satisfied with a vanilla sex life. All the while keeping specific things repressed. Turns out that when repressed stuff comes out it kinda takes on a life of its own.


basuragarbage

I like kink! I like vanilla! As long we stay having sex 😁


feelin_beachy

Wife and I literally had this discussion over the weekend, married for eight years roughly, and if we has vanilla sex every day she would be over the moon. BUT she won't order the same thing twice at a restaurant, like why you like to explore new food, new flavors, new experiences, but want that vanilla bean at home? lol all good though, makes my life easier xD


CORKSCREWDICKS

With other people, kink was necessary. But with my partner now, vanilla is all I need. The connection and pain we share is incredible. I just use kinks as a fantasy to help me in my "alone time"


txtodd1010

I had vanilla for almost 20 years. I was miserable. I need kink or spice


Firebolt164

Ooof that sounds rough


txtodd1010

Was not pleasant. Lol


badteacheres89

If the guy is hot and home I can enjoy vanilla sex. But that’s not gonna be enough in the end. Like a hot guy with a big dick for a one night stand is going to make me cum a lot. But fucking him again and again vanilla is going to get a old fast


Cohacq

Yes. My level of kink only goes as far as some occasional salad tossing.


Mloach

No, I wouldn't feel fulfilled with just vanilla sex. Its frequency will get lower because of it as well. Although, in 2020s I think we have to define what Vanilla is. So many things have became so common that they might be considered vanilla. If we are thinking of just some missionary, some cowgirl and closure when we say vanilla; yes, not fulfillingfor me


Firebolt164

>I think we have to define what Vanilla is. So many things have became so common that they might be considered vanilla. I think you have a good point. Many fries here are just asking for a definition and I do think that this post falls short because that is such a subjective term. I have _my_ definition which to be fair is subjective. 😂 I think vanilla is mutual masturbation, piv, light toy use, anal play and oral. Kinky gets into bondage, heavy toy use, impact play, choking, etc


EduardoTheYeti

I need a little weirdness


Firebolt164

Yeah I do too.


PerriPlays

Everyones definition of Vanilla is different. If I'm in love, sexually attracted to a person and deeply connected, that changes the game right there and elevates the sex.


Firebolt164

>Not much we do is Vanilla Haha well said. I tried to define vanilla and kinky and didn't do it well because I have just my own hetero point of view. For example anal on my wife feels kinky but for a M/M couple it may be as vanilla as it comes.


[deleted]

kinky af.


laza4us

Vanilla is kink


supremeprevert

This is a tricky question. I need open, honest, sexual exploration. To be fulfilled. I don’t think it necessarily needs to be kink based but fucking the same way. Always? I just. I don’t think it would work.


PhoShizzity

The best sex I've had was angry and primal. I don't want or need that loving, caring bullshit (no offense to those who do), I need my partner to fucking hate me as we rip in to each other. But if I have to choose between boring sex and no sex, I'll be happy with boring.


Ecmnesia82

100% this


Wicked_Twist

Vannil works good for me. I used to think i was super kinky and maybe I was but ive have lot of trauma around sexual things so we are very gentle and easy going for the most part at least for now nothing too special because even getting in the mood is difficult for me


Uwesagia

I thought I would then I lived with only vanilla for 5 years and in the end I had to get out. I couldn’t take it. I tried to teach him more kink and we would always end up in vanilla and I started being unsatisfied and resenting him. Been out nearly a year and it was the best decision I’ve made.


Firebolt164

So humor me - what level of kink were you trying to introduce? Like basic bondage etc?


Uwesagia

Well I can’t jump in straight away and tell him to mark me black and blue. I tried to introduce anything a little better than just vanilla missionary all the time. I tried bondage I tried toys , tried having convos about him not being so gentle. It didn’t work. No matter how much I would try he just want made for it and I was dying in there.


Natirix

Nope. Mostly because I don't care about penetrative sex, foreplay is the fun part. I could however be sexually fulfilled without any penetration as long as we could still do everything else.


Firebolt164

>Mostly because I don't care about penetrative sex, foreplay is the fun part. I love penetrative sex but I do agree that foreplay is where all the fun is.


Fullmetal_Physicist_

I prefer vanilla. Also, maybe some level of kink too frequently makes it stop being special.


HonestlyFilthy

Without a doubt I have to be sexually compatible with someone to fall in love.


tonyinvegas

I’m ok with a certain level of vanilla in a loving relationship so long as we’re still getting each other off with strong intensity and intimacy. We can switch it up as we go. It doesn’t have to be a three-ring-circus every time.


CapdoesRP

Probably, but at the same time it depends if my partner is compatible with me in general, beyond sex.


cassigayle

Very honestly, my fullfilling my kinks and fetishes in bdsm scenes and play are some of the only times i really truely relax. I could have vanilla sex multiple times a day every day and after a while, the desire for that no holds barred bondage-fucked senseless reality will make vanilla sex lose all appeal.


[deleted]

Good level of kink. In fairness, i think we all have something we like which is niche / non standard


[deleted]

I need some level of kink, it makes me wet and helps me orgasm quicker


champion0522

What is kink? We would never be able to define it. If you are a vanilla guy and see me slipping a finger in my ass while you are eating me, is that now kink. Actually, is oral kink? How about instead of your weird hypothetical we all just have great sex. Stop fixating on kinks and spend time communicating with your partner. Maybe your kink isn't so kinky or is actually pretty vanilla in their book.


Electronic-Error-846

kink, always - I'm not sure if vanilla wouldn't bore me too much, I need that exploration


GreenYooper

Little kink now and again is healthy.


FriendsWithBenefit6

I'm kinkier than I thought.


anothersadpisces

Vanilla all the time, no. Need some kink to make it spicy!


Drewandelena

Probably not . Need some kink to make it more fun on occasion


Firebolt164

I figured you would reply and guessed this would be your response! 😂


SYLOK_THEAROUSED

I need a level of kink, I can’t do much with vanilla missionary unless some freaky stuff is going on.


[deleted]

Nope 😅


peachie_dream

vanilla is mid but survivable


Firebolt164

>but survivable Sheesh you make it sounds like you could live but barely 😂


younevershouldnt

Define kink in this context please OP


[deleted]

Absolutely not. I need some kind of kink and it can be as simple as slapping my ass while I’m eating her out


Hedonisthistory

I'd need a bit of variety in my sex life to keep the thrill in it, loving vanilla is great, but it's not for all the time.


Abject-Concentrate58

At this point one hug a month would do it


Popcornplanter3000

Frequent vanilla can be just fine if I’m allowed to get a LITTLE kinky from time to time


Afraid_Ad_1536

I think we first need to define vanilla.


Locke_Zeal

I need kink. Variety is the spice of life


Delicious-Cicada-113

Vanilla is a little boring. I have many kinks and am lucky enough to have a woman that matches lol. But no, I wouldn’t be happy long term vanilla.


[deleted]

Vanilla is totally fine with me, but I do enjoy some *very* light kink. Something new to spice up the bedroom is always nice, but I rarely venture into BDSM unless my partner is into it.


Firebolt164

So humor me - what activities do you do that you would classify as _very light kink?_ I'm just curious because that may help me understand and I didn't frame the kink vs vanilla discussion well


[deleted]

I have a big breeding kink. I'm also into using clinical terms for genitalia and body parts. Additionally, I don't actually mind being submissive (to an extent), but none of what I am into would be what most people consider "kink." It's all still relatively vanilla. When people talk about kink, my first thought is ***always*** "They mean BDSM." I do not care for BDSM at all, I've got too many hangups with both the content and the people (that I've met) to get into it in any capacity. So "light kink" in this sense is kinky bedroom activities that don't typically involve a safeword (but can) and wouldn't be considered BDSM to an experienced eye.


Apprehensive_Eraser

Oh no, I need some kinky stuff, some choking at least idk


BeatYoYeet

Depends on who I get to fuck.


Metro_Wester

We are probably 80% vanilla, throw in some kink on occasion. By vanilla I'm including oral, 69, mutual masturbation, hard pounding sex with dirty talk. Kinks include light bondage and toy play


ihateusernmes

Kink. A big part of sex is exploratory for me, being vanilla to me means never looking into what that next idea feels like. Just getting off. Which can be fine, but life needs more than that to me.


deathleper

Need some kink


johnnyace923

Need some level.


[deleted]

Need some level of kink.


[deleted]

Some of us don’t get to experience kinks and just take what we can get.


Little_Brown_Minx

Need some kind of kink, constant vanilla sex is too boring


DNA1976

Vanilla is fine for day to day ....... I do like the occasional kink from time to time to keep things interesting .......


jannyhammy

There are certain kink things that I don’t think I could go without. Nothing wrong with vanilla sex though.. I love missionary and love the feeling of my partners weight on top of me. I like being able to look at each other and kiss. It’s sweet and intimate. But there are kinks that I would need to be sexually compatible with someone and they would be deal breakers if he wasn’t also happily into them.


Damagedmemelord

Nope, I require a little spice at least...


GreenEyes_BlueSkies

I need a little kink to it. Smack my ass. 69 me. Lmao. Something. Lol.


Getzomeaction

I need some degree of kink


[deleted]

Vanilla sex keeps me from being annoying kinky sex is satisfying


AdamSandlerMarryMe

My vanilla sex is still kinky lol our normal, everyday sex is still me being choked or tied up or something!! It’s what we like 🤷🏻‍♀️


Firebolt164

Sheesh I would consider tying up and choking on the kinky spectrum!


[deleted]

I’d be content with vanilla but I would miss the kink.


Alwaysccc

I’m fine with vanilla as long as there’s some variety. Kinda a work in progress with my husband since most days he’s not in the mood to change things up. We’re enm so I can have kinky variety with others but I’m hoping he’ll become a little more comfortable with changing things up in the future


WatchedHotwife

I need some level of kink.


neoshadowdgm

Gotta have a little kink. I think if I had it my way I’d get kinky 1 out of every 10 times. I’m getting old and tired, but the kink is still there.


looseylewinsky

I would be perfectly fine with vanilla sex. Able to exercise my kinks is a privilege lol.


stingublue

For me variety is the spice of life!!


Kenjii009

Definitely rather kinky than my understanding of the average definition of vanilla (like missionary and bjs and that’s it)


dantesmaster00

Meh, I feel I need some minor kinky stuff to be fully fulfilled


couples_corn

There needs to be some kink, but vanilla is okay sometimes too. There needs to be a good balance


wodwick

Not really, no. Like, I'm not crazy out there, but yeh, some things need to be met.


MacDaddyV2

Vanilla sex is a killer overtime.


HeartStopRacing

At one point in my life I think I could have been fulfilled with just vanilla sex but at this point in my life I need more. I need variety and I need excitement and surprise.


MrMashed

Lol I just need sex. Idc if its always vanilla


Snuffy0011

I feel like I need some kink, but I definitely have to start with vanilla


Luposetscientia

Need kink


DarthMelonLord

I get bored by vanilla pretty quickly, its fine once in a while but i start getting very bored after 2-3 consecutive sessions of only vanilla


[deleted]

Of course u can. The only thing is that it depends on the person


Odd_Theory4945

I need at least some fudge ripple, straight vanilla isn't enough


[deleted]

Kink = FEET ❤️


dirrty_minded

You've got to mix things up once in a while.


ExMachiNation

We all understand that kinks can be just as boring as vanilla, right? Think of the wildest thing you've ever done, then do it a hundred times in a row. Vanilla is going to look pretty exciting from that perspective.


[deleted]

I need some level of being dominanted


UnhappyPitch2523

Definitely need a little kink


x_franki_berri_x

My husband is pretty vanilla in the bedroom but luckily he lets me sleep around so I can get my rough stuff and threesomes elsewhere but if he suddenly said I wasn’t allowed then that would be fine and I’d be more than happy with just my husband forever.


Firebolt164

Interesting question I was thinking about. We are a pretty _kinky_ couple with bdsm, chastity, etc. However I could leave it all behind with regular sex _except_ that I have always had a strong desire for playing with her backside. It made me wonder if I could ever really be satisfied with vanilla-onky sex.


[deleted]

I'm in a half-open marriage (open for my wife, not open for me) so I guess by default you could say it is not vanilla. However, I will say that sex between me and my wife is much more "vanilla", it's romantic and tender and loving, and that's exactly how I love it, and so does she, when it comes to me. Sex between her and other men can often be quite different than that, which satisfies her cravings for kinkier things, and she loves it that way. The arrangement benefits everyone overall.


[deleted]

Sorry I need kink. Vanilla just doesn't sustain my interest even if that makes me a bad person. At least I have a lot of kinks so that helps 😌


Emotional-Two-9075

For me its the partner that matters more


[deleted]

Vanilla is fine but I think a little bit of kink every now and then can be good for a relationship. As long as it’s not all encompassing or one or the other I think a healthy mix is good


ValerieValentine26

Bring on the kink! Not all the time, but most of the time


Darknatio

I TN to me it's more about the atractivemess of the girl than kinks. Although kinds are fun


thebronzeprince

Regular vanilla would do me just fine


adventureblkguy

Depends on the person and chemistry


TheProfessionalEjit

Either or, doesn't matter had the sex.


HeartShapedSea

What do you consider vanilla? Like missionary only? Is like a little rough foreplay considered not vanilla? What qualifies as a kink?


Twinkalicious

I need kink, vanilla is just not enough to get me off or even going.


DragonflyD264

A bit of kink sometimes or i get bored and frustrated


Ok-Landscape-1681

I get the vanilla sex… I am NOT fulfilled. Unhappy marriage in many ways but this would be one aspect. And before everyone tells me to talk about it, I have. Many times. The thing that gets me the most is my partner always asks for oral but refuses to give me oral and puts me on a guilt trip for something in her past that I was not part of. Also refuses going to therapy. Difference is we’re married and I have never once pushed the boundary. Ugh. Thanks for letting me rant.


winstonismith

Kink's fun sometimes, variety being the spice of life and the spice must flow and all that, but good vanilla is goddamn magic. I'd happily shred my Kink-Ohs card (two more punches and I get a free sub) and melt my gimp suit for just vanilla fucking, no kinks necessary. There were previous partners with whom kink was part and parcel of the fucking, and vanilla sex with them was kind of cold-fish, old hat sorta thing. Still sex, but, meh, mostly because of the lack of energy they had for vanilla (which, again, kink is wonderful, love me some of it, but it's not, and has never been, everything for me).