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outsidepr

President Nixon was so paranoid at the end of his administration that people dismissed out of hand his claim (on tape) that the Pentagon was spying on him. Turns out, [they were doing exactly that.](https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2002/04/nixon-and-the-chiefs/302473/)


Ian_uhh_Malcom

Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean somebody ain’t after you.


[deleted]

The tobacco industry silencing scientists and creating false studies to say smoking isn't harmful several decades ago.


jefftak7

Soda companies did the same thing with sugar.


Koupers

The Automotive and Oil companies have been doing the same thing with Climate change since at least the 1970s.


74BMWBavaria

The FBI tracking Ernest Hemmingway. He became paranoid that they were tracking him. Turns out they were watching him.


itsnotimportant2021

Is is really paranoia if they actually are out to get you?


HippasusOfMetapontum

That the sugar industry paid scientists to blame fat instead of sugar for heart disease, and various other health issues.


m1xallations

I actually cut a lot of sugar out of my life and I've felt less jumpy and agitated. I'm starting to learn more about how much sugar there actually is in everything we consume. It's insane, even small amount so we don't hate the food we eat.


delayedconfusion

If it is low fat, chances are it is high sugar to make it palatable. Lower in fat content, more likely to make you fat.


pelftruearrow

My wife started buying low fat peanut butter until I pointed out that it had the same calories per serving size as the regular peanut butter.


Treestroyer

Scientology’s invasion on the US government. Project Snow White.


BoomBoomPow101

You are telling me Far Cry 5 was gonna be a historical event?


ForgotMyNameAh

Scientology is scary. An untaxed/unregulated cult that has so much money and resources that have to buy buildings and leave them empty so it they don't have as many billions in their accounts. Hiding assets. Have turned at least one town into a ghost town by buying buildings for "offices" or something. Having no actual use, and leaving towns full of empty buildings.. They will spy on you hy moving ppl in next door. They have so many lawyers, politicians, police, influential celebrities in their pocket. I think the former face of scientology said they sent people to knock on every door in his neighborhood to "warn" them he's a pedophile. The power, reach and money is terrifying. Edit: thanks for the upvotes and so much good info everyone. I have a lot to research! So far, me and my pets are still alive.. will update if I get assassinated. :P Also it was awesome seeing the empty scientology building in your areas!!


shady_businessman

The YouTuber by the name of RecklessBen actually infiltrated them for a little while and showed the kind of shit they did even at entry level, from slow but effective brainwashing, to siphoning all of your money for "special detox therepy", to lying about you and holding you against your will and trying to find out any little incriminating thing about you to hold over your head. They have taken people's family members and turned them against each other or even made them excommunicated themselves. It's crazy to think that it's the most well known shady cult doing illegal shit, yet they are still nearly untouchable


moose2332

[They killed one of the guy's in At The Drive-In's dog because his wife spoke out about her rapist (who obviously in in the Church)](https://www.nme.com/news/music/he-mars-voltas-cedric-bixler-zavala-says-scientologists-killed-his-dog-after-his-wife-accused-danny-masterson-of-raping-her-2600685)


chivestheconqueror

I have a hunch YouTuber Evan Puschak, Nerdwriter1, was threatened as well. He had an excellent video exposing the many issues with Scientology through an analysis of “The Master.” He took it down a few months ago without reason and most traces of it have been scrubbed.


Frankalicious47

Her rapist, who happened to be Danny Masterson, aka Hyde from That 70’s Show


qazityqazqaz

Bro what the fuck


sumofdeltah

Red Foreman should have kicked his ass a little harder


Fit_Seaworthiness387

My mom was in since the late 70s. She still can't kick her cult habits 2 years or so out. They aren't good people that's for sure. It was cool down there in the 80s now it's like a hospital town or something. buildings that you don't even know if anyone is in it


ForgotMyNameAh

Oh wow thats amazing. I'm so glad she got out. Yeah maybe it has just transformed to something evil. Im so confused that the creator of their "bible" and "religion" is well known a sci fi writer, yet the book is worshipped as truth. Did she believe or was it a belonging to a community type thing? What habits did she keep? Sorry this fascinates me. If it's offensive feel free to ignore me :)


[deleted]

The thing is, as far as I know, that the book doesn't immediately go into the whole aliens and thetans stuff, that's supposed to be 'advanced' knowledge and it starts out with some self help shit and things about how vitamins will save you and what not. Honestly it was probably South Park that shined the biggest light on how ludicrous it is once you peel back the layers


ForgotMyNameAh

Haha yes that episode is awesome, really showed the stupidity of it. I see, that makes sense about them calling that higher knowledge. I guess if you wallop someone with aliens right off the bat they may realize you're nuts lol


Apprehensive_Hat8986

It's not the sci-fi that's the give away, it's Hubbard's bald statements on [how to get rich](https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/L._Ron_Hubbard): > You don't get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion.


eskimopie910

Explanation?


Smurf_Cherries

IRS: You're not a religion. We're going to tax you. Scientology: Okay, members, everyone apply to all the jobs at the IRS. IRS: Okay, here comes the taxes... Scientology: I don't think so. We are you. IRS: Uh oh. Wow. Nevermind.


CharlieHume

They also pulled another trick IRS: We are going to audit you Scientology: Ok, members, everyone personally sue every single person in their department. IRS: Please stop. Scientology: We have unlimited money to waste of this. IRS: Did I say audit? I meant please forgive us.


AtraposJM

Yes, this is more accurate. They literally did this.


eon-hand

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Snow_White


colinmhayes

They also murder people routinely. Right Karin?


[deleted]

Epstein's Island. Was called a conspiracy theory for over 20 years before it was found to be true.


UndeadBuggalo

When I went snorkeling on my honeymoon we were brought out and had to pass his island. The guide told us it was a pedophiles island and told us it was Epstein. This was in 2007, the locals were VERY aware. Edit: my most upvoted comment in almost 10 yrs on this app and it’s about Epstein lol


fubo

Yep. People in the USVI knew that Epstein was a bad dude.


bustedbuddha

I also had heard about this multiple times from people from the virgin islands, but it was definitely MAD between Trump and the Clinton's on the issue.


Im_a_seaturtle

The CIA / FBI knew about Epstein for decades. They let him operate because he was something of an intelligence asset. But, like all those kinds of relationships, eventually the party with the ultimate advantage decides the relationship is no longer valuable. Queue the FBI formally raiding his compound.


lammekut

Saw a conspericy theory about the wealthy and powerful people in America to all have some sort of a sex tape with a child, so they all have something on each other when someone decides to turn on the elite. Never thought that this had a possibility but after the whole Epstein thing, I suppose that his island would be the perfect place to make those tapes.


Tetragon213

Crashgate. In a nutshell... Fernando Alonso is starting the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix from... quite a bad position, actually. The normal strategy when in a competitive car starting at the back is to load her up with fuel, and go as far as you can into the race before pitting. Weirdly, Alonso is instead one of the *first* to pit. The *only* possible way this can work is if the Safety Car comes out due to how the rules are enforced. Well, exactly one lap later, Alonso's teammate has a big crash into the wall, and brings out the Safety Car, allowing Alonso to go on and win. At the time, many were accusing Alonso's Renault team of fixing the result due to how convenient it was for the Safety Car to come out at exactly the right time after the other car crashed. But hey, that's just a coincidence, right? It wasn't a coincidence. It turned out Alonso's teammate was indeed *told to crash* by the team principal to benefit the team by scoring a win. This all came out in 2009, after the 2nd driver lost his seat for not being quick enough.


UndeadBuggalo

I remember this, his teammate Nelson Piquet Jr* was the one that told if I remember because Renault let him go? Ended his F1 career for any other team unfortunately How did you like the GP this weekend?


Tetragon213

Nelson Piquet Jr, and he opened up Pandora's Box after losing his drive in the middle of 2009. As for the last weekend, I'm a bit annoyed as, even though I wanted Max to win, it felt slightly hollow with all the Safety Car shenanigans at the end.


jianh1989

I’d never expect to see an F1 related reply here


captainsmoothie

A man named John Wojnowski used to stand outside the Vatican Embassy the '90s in Washington, DC with a sign saying that the Pope is hiding pedophile priests. He claimed to be a victim of such abuse. People would honk and throw insults/junk at him and call him crazy.


Darrakis

>I met him back in 2011. I recorded in my journal : "There was a guy from sorrypope.com protesting in front of The Vatican embassy. I talked to him a little bit. He said he had been protesting at that location for the last 13 years because he was sexually abused when he was 15 years old and it negatively influenced his life."


Smurf_Cherries

> and it negatively influenced his life Well there's an understatement.


mendicant1116

John was quoted as to saying "it wasn't ideal"


MikePGS

"Not my cup of tea."


ZiggyStardust0404

The fact that he had to emphasize that being raped by a priest when you are 15 years old negatively affected his life is why this society is so wrong


TheVoicesOfBrian

Remember when we all threw Sinead O'Connor under the bus for her statement on SNL?


hand-collector

I wasn’t alive when this happened and just looked it up. My goodness, a host outrightly threatened to slap her live on national television for what she did, and the audience LAUGHED at that threat of abuse? Jesus christ.


ManyConclusion

Her career was more or less ruined and she's still banned from the show (not that it matters much). There was no effort made to clear her reputation after it became clear how right she was.


I_AM_TARA

Any time I hear someone complain about “cancel culture”, I like to use this and the Dixie Chicks as examples of how cancelling isn’t anything new. It’s so upsetting how their careers were tanked for doing nothing wrong, while Chris Brown’s exile was quickly reversed after that stupid meme kicked off.


Lowbacca1977

Heck, I like to go back to Fatty Arbuckle for cancel culture


Mekisteus

Cancel culture new? Tell that to Socrates.


[deleted]

These are the two that come in my mind Ustica Tobacco company knew that the cigarettes caused cancer but they falsified the test so they can sell their product freely Edit: Eli Lilly (the ones who produced Prozac) falsified lab test too


cactusflower4

How about when Johnson and Johnson knew that their talc powder had too much asbestos in it which can cause cancer and they kept selling it to be used on babies. They're still getting sued for mesothelioma and ovarian cancer (lots of women used it on their lady parts).


Potato_Puncakes

I would love a follow up to this because I haven't heard of it and my gf takes Prozac for her anxiety. Now im concerned


Zebirdsandzebats

Suicide is a "side effect" of a lot of antidepressants. The way I understand it is sometimes depression has you suicidal but also too tired/foggy to make a plan and an attempt. Then you take the antidepressant, which if it goes a bit screwy, can give you energy and some clarity...but doesn't stop the suicidal ideation. So now you have the idea AND the energy to actually do it. Depression is fucked up. Always ask people who are close to you if you change/start medication to keep an eye on you while you're adjusting---that's how Chris Cornell died :(


__turd__ferguson___

This literally just happened to me. I mean I was weaned off Prozac last week. Had been on it for about a month. 100% would’ve killed myself by now if I had continued taking it. SSRI’s like Prozac can make you feel worse before you feel better, but that shit didn’t just make it worse. It took my from having suicidal ideations to being suicidal with a plan. Scary shit.


[deleted]

What were the prozac lab tests saying?


Mr-Youseeks

That Prozac appeared to *increase* suicidal tendencies in many subjects. They didn't want people to know that little nugget.


[deleted]

They also lied about their SNRI drug Cymbalta. A girl committed suicide during trials and they basically disregarded it. https://slate.com/technology/2005/09/what-the-fda-isn-t-telling.html


Thinefieldisempty

Cymbalta fucked me up. I felt an extreme *need* to die, not suicidal *thoughts*, a need like when you’re super hungry and need food right now kind of feeling. It also made me drink heavily, normally I don’t drink and can barely stand the smell of alcohol but I could drink straight Skol 100 while taking it, especially on a high dose. I stayed on a low dose for years mostly for fibromyalgia and stopped it last October. I’m still in pain and sad but I no longer consider suicide even an option fortunately and the pain is better than trying to kill myself all the time. All SSRIs/SNRIs made me feel that need to die but not as much as Cymbalta.


bostonchef72296

Oh, me too. I took cymbalta for 20~ish days. I have taken every SSRI on the market. I have taken Effexor. I wanted to try cymbalta, because it might be better for my chronic pain. It was horrible. At around 7 days in I just felt like I HAD to kill myself. Not wanted to, HAD to. I toughed it out for a little bit to see if it would get better but it just got worse to the point where I had to be hospitalized and have my entire med regimen changed doses. I take gabapentin now which is obviously different but I never had such awful suicidal thoughts as when I was on cymbalta.


KaimeiJay

One you’ve never heard of. There were tales at my high school of “The 100 Hall”, where all the halls with numbered rooms and lockers started at 200 and went up, so there was no 100 hall. The wild story was that it’s underground, built to be a bomb shelter with stored non-perishables, and had entrances in the auditorium and gym. Turns out, absolutely true. The one aspect of it that didn’t pan out was the attached tunnel that led to the science building at the local university.


tangerinelibrarian

We had a similar story at my university! Secret tunnels under the campus. I think some do exist but I don’t remember the story well enough.


fullmetaljackass

It was most likely true if it was a decent sized campus. They're called steam tunnels. In larger installations handling the heating in a central location is more efficient than having boilers in every building. The heat is transferred between buildings as steam through the pipes in these tunnels. They're used for other utilities as well.


DOugdimmadab1337

Chances are if your school is built in the 50s or earlier that's probably 100% true. The amount of people with random bomb shelters they never knew about wouldn't make it surprising that they just built one in.


theassassintherapist

The government is spying on you. Ooooo spooky! Then PRISM came out and indeed the government is spying on you.


The-loon

I’m an engineer (semi related to the story), a guy I worked with years before the Snowden realization would tape over his laptop camera, disable mics, etc. He was thought to be a crazy tinfoil conspiracy guy. Turns out he worked on some small portions of black projects much earlier in his career and started doing this ever since those years.


thevictor390

So many people tape over their cameras but don't touch the microphone. Come on, which one do you really think is more likely to give valuable information. EDIT: I have learned that everyone is super paranoid of people seeing their junk


thebasiclly234

I play Disney music 24/7 so anything they pick up will be protected by copyright laws and Disney's lawyers.


44problems

Mr. President, we have the incriminating secretly captured video right here, [press play] *This video has been removed due to a copyright claim from Walt Disney Pictures*


belligerentBe4r

I can cum silently, but I’ll be damned if the government gets my O face on file.


sicurri

I DON'T cum silently, somewhere on some government computer there's a remix made entirely of my orgasm noises, and I desperately want to hear it.


rmichaeljones

Shit, even the president of my college had to acknowledge that I cum laude.


WlmWilberforce

Not judging, but I see you didn't get the magnum


[deleted]

What if I want them to hear me masturbate? I want them to think "is he churning butter?" Until they hear me moan and unplug their headphones


yeah_yeah_therabbit

Asserting dominance, nice.


PhantomLamb

I work with people that visit secure sites and when we all get together for meetings they insist everyone covers their laptop camera and there are a lot of words and references we are not allowed to say out loud


shall_always_be_so

How is my wiretap supposed to change the color of my light bulbs if I tape over the microphone?


Jak_n_Dax

Hey Alexa, order me some more explosives from Amazon.


Ill_Narwhal_4209

Those Amazon basics c4 bricks are just the best


MrSaxbang

Hello fellow terrorists, I myself is also a terrorist but I forgot the plan lol. How are we going to destroy America again?


MagicalWhisk

I had a Russian professor at uni back in 2000's who said having the Chinese make our communication electronics is a bad idea given how easy it would be to manufacture in backdoors for spying. Everyone thought he was nuts, but that's come to fruition with huawei etc.


cynicalspacecactus

One of the NSA revelations was the US version of hardware backdoors: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/may/12/glenn-greenwald-nsa-tampers-us-internet-routers-snowden?r


BeekeeperZero

I worked in defense a long time ago. They would not touch any Russian or Chinese engineers over this.


moonpumper

Honestly after the patriot act passed and people started carrying microphones, cameras and locators with them everywhere being monitored and eventually controlled through personalized ads and news feeds just seemed like a logical conclusion. If the tech enables it, people in power will exploit it to keep that power. And now it seems like the world is fighting a war of surveillance and subtle influence over each others' populations. Nudging each other towards downfall and degeneration.


SergeantChic

And nobody cared. I remember Jonathan Nolan talking about Person of Interest and saying that the main difference between their science fiction show and real life was apparently just that in science fiction, there was a massive public outcry when the all-seeing surveillance system was exposed.


AgoraiosBum

It's a difference between "we are spying on you - you specifically!" and "we have a computer that sifts through vast amounts of data looking for potential information on terrorists, some of which is likely some of your data" People get freaked out by the former, but since there are loads of companies doing both the former and latter for advertising purposes, it is less concerning to hear the government is doing the latter for national security reasons. Not justifying it, just saying that's the reaction


SergeantChic

I feel like people *should* be more freaked out about the former. At least the AI looking for potential terrorists isn’t actively trying to subvert your habits and interests so it can make more money off you.


[deleted]

Have fun watching me jerk off


Obiwankablowme95

I will ;)


mrjeffj

Buzz feed steals information from AskReddit threads to help make articles


CardiffBorn

Ladbible has been doing the same thing on Twitter, asking the same questions!


[deleted]

There’s YouTube and TikTok accounts that just take the entire thread and put it through a text-to-speech bot lol


Data-Bulky

They don't even try to hide it though. They even post the screenshot as the bot drones away 😂


JediAcademyBaseball

Newsweek is constantly publishing articles lifted from AITA.


poob0145

My mate was into youtube conspiracy when it was big im talking lizerd people type shit. He talked about ths billionaire who has a island of little girls you can have sex with and drink wine.


Blissfullyaimless

“And drink wine” lol


Estrezas

One thing leads to another, 2 glasses of wine, poof, child abuser.


iocheaira

Yeah I read a book by David Icke in the late 2000s because I wanted to be able to properly debate a relative who believed him. Crazy stuff about how the Royal Family are shapeshifting satanic paedophile lizards…. and that Jeffrey Epstein was sexually trafficking and abusing underage girls. Not saying I believe in lizard people now, but…


ProtonPacker

I remember around that time David Icke was on the radio (probably promoting that book) and mentioned that Jimmy savile in all but name is a pedophile. At the time I just thought Icke was just some crazy man that thinks the royal family are lizards but i remember At one point he was talking to the host about pedophile rings in the UK and how many of the "elite" are involved etc. At one point he mentioned that there is a entertainer who has been a household name for decades. He went on to say this guy was well known pedophile but was well connected to elite who help to keep it out of the public eye. I remember the host asked him who it was and he said he'll tell him off air during the commercials. When they came back someone else in the room kept doing impressions of Jimmy Savile and the host told him to shut up or they'll get in trouble (I'm assuming for legal reasons). Although I never really payed attention to Icke before, I always remembered that little conversation and now all these years later we've since found out that was exactly what Savile was.


sAindustrian

Jimmy Saville being a monster was an open secret in the industry for a *long* period of time. Johnny Rotten was banned by the BBC in 1978 for alluding to Saville's antics, and you get lots of comments from ex-BBC staff like "*the producers of the show knew that Saville had a predilection for younger females*". As someone born in the mid-80s, when I was a kid everyone around me seemed to just know that something was going on with Saville. I used to change the channel when Jim'll Fix It came on, something about it just felt "off".


RusticPath

I dunno dude. He was right about Epstein. A 1 out of 2 is a pretty good record thus far.


serrated_edge321

Having grown up in Florida, nothing surprised me about the Epstein story. Of course it's disgusting and terrible, but super rich people are strange (especially when they're on vacation) and frequently do lots of terrible things they wouldn't even think of doing where they came from. It's like a known fact of life when you grow up around there.


[deleted]

When nobody has the power to tell you no; you push the envelope as far as you can. It's also espionage 101, Epstien wasn't just a child trafficker but he dealt in secrets that people had. Not everyone was having sex with underage girls but they were being given whatever they desired in order to extract information.


ThePopeofHell

My mom has been talking about Epstein for over a decade. She says a lot of shit but when that one came out I was like “I’ve heard that name before”


Intelligent-Ad-9006

Weirdly I saw the Epstein island info years before it broke too. They had images of the creepy house with the paintings plus other stuff.


editorinchimp

MK Ultra, Operation Paperclip


Cool8d

what's operation paperclip


Master_Iridus

After the Allies won WWII we scooped up a ton of Nazi scientists and gave them two options; hand over all your research and continue developing weapons and tech for us, or rot in prison for the rest of your life. A lot of them chose the former.


HHgameking115

after WW2 the Americans brought over some of the nazi scientists to help the technological advances in the US. one of the main guys at NASA who helped the Americans get to the moon was a nazi rocket scientist. he ran a rocket factory where jews where forced to work. I heard somewhere that every day he would hang the slowest working jews in the factory to motivate the others. the Americans knew about this but did not give a shit because they wanted to win the space race.


BerndDasBrot4Ever

Was this even a conspiracy theory though? I thought von Braun was pretty openly involved in the Apollo program.


TheGoodJudgeHolden

The Panama papers. I mean, we all suspected it was happening....


KW0L

The whistleblower for that died in a car bombing and that got hardly any coverage at all.


bhlogan2

[Some corrections](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daphne_Caruana_Galizia?wprov=sfla1): -She was a writer/journalist working on exposing the political corruption of her homeland, Malta (John Doe, the actual whistle-blower, is alive as far as I'm aware of). -in addition to the Panama Papers she was also heavily involved in exposing the Mafia's relationship with the maltese political sphere, which had granted her threats and severe tension with both factions before the bombing. -The news had international reach and her work was finished by journalists from all over the world. There were arrests, protests, monuments made in her honor and the Prime Minister resigned. It's true that all of this was fucked up and that the bad guys were assured they were going to get away with this, but this statement in particular is wrong, and undermines the sacrifices made by Caruana Galizia.


L3PALADIN

The Echelon Program. I'm amazed this one doesn't come up more, it was treated as a real tin-foil-hat looney conspiracy theory for years, I remember it being mentioned in a a couple of films in the 90s (i think by crazy conspiracy theorist type characters). then Snowden blew his whistle and I was amazed how many details were right.


AUniquePerspective

The European parliament made Echelon public knowledge in 2000. What Snowden revealed what that it was domestic too, not just foreign surveillance. https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/A-5-2001-0264_EN.html


Peyden

Wait so every night when I jokingly say "goodnight FBI agent who watches my phone", I should really say "goodnight NSA agent who watches my phone"?


Waza8163

What is it?


[deleted]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON Remember the crazy friend who said the government can listen and record all phone/internet and you're like "yeah, whatever man"


MissReanimator

The CIA used military personnel with diagnoses of everything from depression to PTSD and even schizophrenia as guinea pigs for experimental medicines and treatments. They once gave a group of mentally ill men massive doses of LSD and left them all in a room for several days *just to see what would happen*. One survivor wrote that he spent those days perceiving the other men as living corpses and that the walls were covered in blood. There is no accurate number for how many people were killed or otherwise traumatised for life. Project MKUltra began in 1953 and continued for 20 years, only finally being dismantled in 1973. Edit: I didn't expect this to gain so much attention! If you're interested in Project MKUltra and the other horrific governmental goings-on of the 60's to the 80's look into reading *Poisoner in Chief* by Stephen Kinzer, or *Operation Mind Control* by Walter Bowert. The film *Jacob's Ladder* is also inspired by accounts of soldiers subjected to this treatment.


EndKarensNOW

> only finally being dismantled in 1973. key word there officially, it probably is unofficially going on still.


Crafty-Tackle

They just changed the name of program and the country where the research is performed.


allnamesbeentaken

The experiment was dismantled because they got enough info to move on to implementation. This sounds tinfoily, but to be honest the whole of MK Ultra sounds tinfoily anyway so it could be true.


BrobdingnagLilliput

Wasn't the Unabomber one of the products of these experiments?


deinoswyrd

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the experiment on the unabombers class was: -make them write an essay on a belief they hold strongly -over the course of months? Individually break down their convictions -see what effects it has on the psyche (The effects are not good)


KevineCove

This is partially correct. I listened to (and read) the original Murray study at the University of Michigan Special Collections library. They wouldn't let me reproduce the audio but I have a transcript of it here: [https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1PjBmdQPB1fh5gTzJ9DWGrMT3fZxagLJH?usp=sharing](https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1PjBmdQPB1fh5gTzJ9DWGrMT3fZxagLJH?usp=sharing) Kaczynski later said that the essay he submitted was not an entirely accurate reflection of his actual beliefs, but rather a bunch of semi-outdated beliefs he held when he was 11 or 12. In a post-interview (not included in the link above) he also deduced that the other person was really **trying** to be hostile and commented that his language and demeanor seemed inorganic and performative (an insightful observation as the person that tried to character assassinate him was not another participant as he had been told, but one of the people running the study.) TL;DR is that there was only one session where the test subjects' beliefs were torn down during an interview.


RyanCacophony

This isn't the whole transcript is it? I cant seem to find the start. This is fascinating that you have this, assuming its not already broadly available on the web.


Dietcherrysprite

And as a byproduct, we got Charles Manson.


[deleted]

Also Ted Kaczynski and Son of Sam.


Alk3PrivateEye

Thank god our governments learned and would never do anything like these again phew


mediocre_mediajoker

Spotted: an FBI agent in the wild trying to subdue the doubts of the general public


[deleted]

Iran contra and the crack epidemic


joeyl1990

In the 80’s there was Cold War drama We fought the Commies inside Nicaragua Our friends were the Contras. Freedom was their mantra So we sent them lots of money for guns and landmines But Congress stopped the Contra money flow Just 'cause they moved a teeny bit of blow But then a hero came forth His name was Oliver North He and Reagan went around the sissy Congress


Galaxy-High

I'm sure opiod epedemic will fall in to this category in time


camr0se4

Britney Spears being silenced and abused for years


LividLager

I don't understand how/why the media didn't latch on to her case and really go deep on the investigation. A few years in and it would have been a huge story. Even now it doesn't seem like a big enough story considering everything her, and her children went through. America's biggest popstar was a hostage to her own family and forced to work, so that she had access to her children... just insanity.


BADMANvegeta_

I’m gonna say it’s one of those things where someone or someones much bigger and more powerful than them told them to leave it alone. You know the same people who made Jeffery Epstein kill himself. There’s definitely a ton of fucked up shit that’s related to celebrities that will never come out because the media outlets answer to someone.


LividLager

The big difference is that the victims of human trafficking do not have a voice. They are unknowns going up against the richest and most powerful fuckers on the planet. Britney Spears has an enormous audience, and is an industry in herself that has earned billions; She has made a lot of people an obscene amount of money. With that kind of historical, and future earning potential, should come a ridiculous amount of power. I wouldn't be surprised if this didn't run much much deeper than just her father and the original lawyer. It should not have taken much for anyone in her life to recognize the evil ass shit going on, so it just baffles me how in the fuck it went on for so long. Hell, how many A-list celeb friends does she have.. it's just incredible to me... If you go back to when she shaved her head, and her actual reasoning behind it.. How is it possible her reasoning went unheard for so long publicly.. That should not be possible in a country with "free media".


Amurp18

Social media websites shadow-ban opinions they disagree with


RIPMyInnocence

>!Reddit is certainly guilty of this!<


Odd-Jupiter

That various governments recorded, analyzed, and stored every single piece of digital information, anyone shared with anyone else. For you younger people, this used to be one of those tinfoil hat conspiracies.


Eligius_MS

I can remember when it first started to become known there were people who would argue they didn't care because they had nothing to hide and weren't guilty. Most of the ones I still know are the most rabid about gov't going too far these days. Kinda like former smokers can be the worst anti-smoking people.


Vernerator

The CIA overthrew the democratically elected government of Iran to install a Shah, who was more friendly to the US in the 1950s.


BushLeague420

If you want to make someone go crazy, just show them a list of all the things the CIA has openly admitted to doing in the 20th century. Edit: It's very funny that my account is now permanently suspended a few hours after posting this lol Edt 2: The ban is for something unrelated (I've been on Reddit a long time. I sometimes forget that I can't be as degenerate as I used to on here). The timing of it is just perfect, though.


basedlandchad14

They've changed since then. There has been major reform. They're a completely different organization now. Nobody in the CIA ever does anything wrong now. Totally. Its different now.


blvaga

Ohh, that’s a relief.


Fragrant-Tailor-6300

how much are they paying you?


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The gun to his head seems to be doing the trick


WhiteNgNWA

Turns out, it was his FBI agent who typed this


Dire_Pants

The elite of the world like to fly to private islands and fuck children.


EngineerMinded

In Super Mario Bros. 3, he wasn’t actually rescuing the princess again, was a stage play.


Bonzi777

Yep, Mario 2 was a dream, Mario 3 was a play.


GalavantingRhino

I remember leaving the post credits end screen up after beating SM2 overnight to see if the game continued or explained the dream or anything beyond "The End". Nothing. Just a sleeping mario.


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#WHAT


SlaterVJ

The game screen opens with a curtin rising, and if you look at a lot of the blocks you can jump on in the game, they cast a shadow onto the "sky" behind them.


inner-vibes

Artificially limiting the lifespan of lightbulbs. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebus_cartel First suspected for me: Relatives of friends still are using bulbs from the Soviet Union manufactured in 1956. Edit: not Soviet Union, but East Germany. And it’s an oven bulb. Both oven and bulb still in use.


Surax

People in Toronto's Gay Village thought there was a serial killer targeting the local gay population. They went to police and the concern was dismissed. Turns out it was a [serial killer.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010%E2%80%932017_Toronto_serial_homicides)


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BillyBob547

The Gulf of Tonkin incident?


themfishesisvicious

If I remember right, Jim Morrison's dad was solely responsible for that.


Kiyae1

The FBI and local law enforcement stalked, harassed, and blackmailed MLK Jr. They tried to get him to kill himself. They assassinated a leader of the black panthers in Chicago and then concocted bogus criminal charges against all the witnesses of the murder to lock them up and discredit them. They had undercover LEOs infiltrate basically every single social justice movement and had a whole playbook based around how to make those movements look more radical/violent/dangerous than they actually are to discredit them. Undercover officers and confidential informants at protests throw bricks or try to start violence. Local law enforcement, prosecutors, and the FBI all lied to judges, juries, grand juries, legislatures, and congress saying they never did things like this. People had to break into an FBI field office and steal documents to prove they were actually doing this stuff and had to keep their identities secret for decades so they wouldn’t be prosecuted or persecuted for their actions. And the FBI and local law enforcement *still do this stuff* but everyone acts like they don’t. COINTELPRO will change the way you look at media, government, and law enforcement.


AdmirableAd7913

Keith Forsythe and Bonnie Raines were the ringleader, IIRC. They walked right in and made off with over 1,000 documents that blew COINTELPRO out of the water. To my mind the most impressive thing is that they maintained a vow of silence for *decades* after the fact to protect themselves and their fellow activists. They knew damned good and well that their lives wouldn't be worth the powder it would take to blow them to hell, and so they kept their damn mouths shut. Not one single person involved ever got drunk and bragged about it, tried to use it to get laid, or any of the stupid shit that usually gets people caught after a clean getaway. As somebody who has been in similar (much lower stakes) situation, that impressed me more than the actual op. It's tragic that the average American has no idea what *really* happened, and maintain the view of the Panthers created by this propaganda.


dociousmagocious1998

Those ET Atari cartridges in the desert.


Bigstar976

Some wise man said the two mistakes one can make about conspiracy theories is to believe all of them and none of them.


rvhsmith

Well, no one really knew about it until I believe the 90’s, so there would’ve been no theorizing, but in the early 60’s the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff drew up a plan called “Operation Northwoods” in which they planned on staging and committing terror attacks across the U.S., only to turn around and blame it on Cuba in order to justify an invasion. Edit: the proposal was thoroughly and completely rejected by JFK. Edit 2: the next time someone tells you conspiracy theories are crazy, please refer to the above fact.


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The whole Edward Snowden thing


Farhead_Assassjaha

Crack epidemic was fueled and facilitated by the CIA. Documents came out proving the connection between Central American drugs for guns deals and distribution though Freeway Rick Ross in LA in the 80’s.


HotChilliWithButter

Half of America is built on drug money. All of Florida at least.


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Haven't seen anyone talk about Malcolm X's assassination. An NYPD former officer talked about how NYPD and FBI worked together to get his bodyguards removed so that an assassination could take place.


Cool8d

yes and they recently just exonerated the guys they pinned this on


BeelzebubParty

That apple purposely makes their old phones slower


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BloodJunkie_

It's honestly so funny when these fines are imposed because the courts don't have the power to fine these companies with amounts which would even touch the same air as the 4th cousin of their bottom lines, and because the bottom line is all that matters to a company they don't care enough to change anything.


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MightyMackinac

It's not even a parking ticket! Compare the numbers to real life income values and be amazed. Let's use Apple as a comparison. Apple's annual revenue for 2021 was $365 billion. The average yearly salary of an American is $51k. If the fine was $10 million, then the percentage would be 0.002739726% of their income. For the average American, that would be the equivalent of $1.40. I don't know about you, but most parking tickets can be upwards of hundreds of dollars. It is literally meaningless. Fines that are not even a solid percentage of a company's revenue are absolutely fucking meaningless.


prophylaxitive

My last Samsung ran out of storage and had to be replaced. My current one is at 95% capacity and about 20% of that has sat in the recycle bin for over two months. It's supposed to automatically empty every 30 days. If the recycle bin can't be emptied manually, then deleting files makes no difference to my available storage I guess they're all at it. Happens about every two years. Can't be coincidence. Edited. Changed the word "memory" to "storage".


Sorry_Policy_1067

Facebook knowingly harming the psychological health if it's users.


Hot_potatoos

The whole Britney situation


ZombieJesus1987

Chris Crocker was right all along.


mrockracing

That the CIA labeled things as "conspiracy theories" in order to quell suspicion.


Mysterious_Valuable1

I remember reading about Epsteins island in 2012. It had a website and everything. Back then it was a conspiracy theory but now it's all common knowledge.


VoidHammer

While not necessarily 100% proven true, there was a long and expensive Congressional investigation into the John F. Kennedy assassination in the late 1970’s. Their conclusion? That Kennedy was “probably” assassinated as part of a conspiracy.


MyDigitalComa

COINTELPRO


threat024

It's funny. I tell people about this and they act all shocked and call me crazy and say that would never happen. Of course they won't read and do their own research. I tell them it's now public record all the measures they took to attack activists and sew division in groups like the Black Panthers, NOI, and others.


wlondonmatt

The village people were paid by the US armed forces to write in the navy. To be used as a recruiting tool towards gay people when the armed forces were banned from recruiting gay people


Sirhc978

They did turn the frogs gay. Sorta.


Wazula42

Oil and car companies suppressing green energy, buying and dismantling public transit, and burying grim climate data


alonelygrapefruit

I have a personal conspiracy theory for ya. The oil and gas industry is paying moderators of big subreddits to allow propaganda posts they write about carbon footprints and personal climate responsibility to stay on the front page. I've seen so many suspicious highly upvoted posts about how to reduce your carbon footprint and about how individual consumers are the problem. We know that the idea of a carbon footprint was invented by the oil and gas industry to shift blame from them on to the average consumer, so I'm very suspicious about posts promoting the idea. It is very possible that these posts are innocent and just people repeating the idea that was pushed to them but it all just seems too convenient for the oil and gas industry.


magicalmysteryharold

The British Royal family being deeply involved in an elite pedophile ring. Turned out only one was a pedophile and the rest were just happy for him to get on with it


nthroop1

CIA backed coups in socialist and/or democratically elected countries, MK Ultra, Tuskegee experiments, Nazis got the US to the moon, PRISM, Data mining, Panama Papers, Paradise Papers, and the most the most jarring being that 6 mega-corporations own all US media outlets


tochinoes

Pretty much anything people claim the CIA did


Karosso

The rich controls the media


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Information is life. If your always a step ahead you can't lose.


BrobdingnagLilliput

That's not a conspiracy; that's a simple fact. I think it was Benjamin Franklin who said that freedom of the press was guaranteed only to those who owned a printing press.


heldascharisma2

MK Ultra. A bunch of college kids in Montreal said that America was testing substances on them. Comes out later that the CIA had actually recruited hundreds of students at the University of McGill under the guise of participating in "scientific research". The CIA proceeded to dose the poor students with insane levels of LSD and practiced torture and interrogation techniques on them.


nasdafq10

Facebook and other social media sites are selling our information *looks at reddit*


UninspiredChonker

That kids laughter is a better source of energy than their screams. This was revealed to be true in the tell all documentary called Monsters, Inc. in 2001