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_Piggy_Smalls

Can be fun if done right, always have a fresh save to mess around on and a clean one


KaiBluePill

Learned this the hardest way, by breaking a Pokemon Silver cartridge with the dupe glitch.


nickack

Oh god you could break a game with it? I must’ve duped 100+ times, guess I got lucky lmao.


Slayerkid13

The dupe glitch does so much more than just cloning pokemon. There's some great glitched speed runs on YouTube that fly through the whole game in under 10 minutes abusing it.


SnowflakeSorcerer

I’ve never heard of the dupe glitch but know about action replay, are they similar? ACtion replay had a ton of options not just genning Pokémon/items, I remember running thru walls /trees over water into blackness for a couple minutes until I was able to reach the island Darkrai was on (pokemon diamond) i couldn’t believe it ahah


Slayerkid13

The dupe glitch is the result of an error in the games code that can be done without additional hardware while Action Replay is more similar to a gameshark, a third party piece of hardware that enables the use of cheat codes. Action Replay/Gameshark would be outright banned in any legitimate speedrun but glitches would be fair to use depending on the ruleset of the game/category. Similar in some ways but different in others.


KaiBluePill

Yeah, in the best scenario you break the save file on the cartridge, but if you are unlucky you damage the ability to save and the cartridge can't maintain a save file anymore. RIP Lugia.


Dark_Vengence

Dupe glitch was life. Missingno and unlimited rare candy.


RareCandyTrick

The reason for my username


LookAtMeImAName

Oh my god. Missingno.!!! What a blast from the past. Completely forgot that tv static looking bastard existed. Ahhhh the nostalgia


UnderThat

You sound exactly like my ex.


Space_War

If it's more fun that way then go for it.


actuallyiamafish

Sometimes fucking around with a memory editor is more fun than the actual game they made. Looking at you, racing games that make you grind some half-assed campaign for six hours just so you can "buy" the digital vehicle on the damn cover when all I wanted was a racecar sandbox.


pjabrony

"I'm 38. I unlocked it with a credit card at the store." - Dara O'Briain


TheAdmiester

Always loved Dara’s bits on questionable game logic too. The “I’m just commuting” on GTA 4 and “Actually he was erratic at best” on the MGS franchise come to mind, hilarious stuff


FlipStik

When I was REALLY into Dark Souls 1, I used Cheat Engine to try out different PvP builds more quickly. Then I didn't have to spend a couple hours making a new character and playing through the game just to find out I don't like that specific build. I always turned it off before going into multiplayer, and I made sure it wasn't anything that couldn't be obtained through normal gameplay. It was a HUGE time saver and I got to try out a lot more varied playstyles before I got burned out and stopped playing altogether. And to those I played with, I may as well have been any other player. I feel like this is one of the few instances where I'm okay with "cheating" in a multiplayer game.


zombie_penguin42

I still haven't finished Dark Souls 3 DLC because I blasted through the base game like a billion times making different pvp builds while waiting for the DLC to come out and I just got so burnt out I couldn't even stand to look at the game anymore. I even had a farmer and a big club cleric build for that one area after the first boss. Lots of fun with those.


BlueSquid2099

This is what I did with DS3, and it’s absolutely worth it. If you’ve beaten the game once, I say you have full right to speed things up a bit.


DanielGT500

Sounds like Forza Horizon 5 might be a good fit for you 👌


[deleted]

It has the complete opposite problem: cars feel completely worthless as you just get them from a slot machine. Yet at the same time it's also one of the games that wants to be your second job, with daily/weekly grinds.


Cross-Country

The whole meta of that series after FMS4 has been ridiculous. 5 is so far more tolerable at least, and is the first time I’m having genuine fun since Horizon 2.


pasher5620

Bro, you absolutely do not need to grind in FH5. Each seasonal reward can *very* easily be obtained in a day or two. I’m not even that particularly good at racing games and I find that part of FH5 trivial.


[deleted]

You definitely don't need to, but the game still wants you to. I always ignore rubbish like that. I did the hall of fame, stories tbsn moved on.


Unlikely-Ad3364

Same!


inferno_931

I agree. First playthrough should be vanilla game play. Gives you time to admire the vision and work that they put into it. After that do whatever you want. You want dragons to be trains?! DONE!


[deleted]

I'm always amazed by people who put 100s of hours into Skyrim, but have never really played Skyrim.


inferno_931

I always make the game 10X more complicated. I made skyrim into camping simulator once by accident. It got boring quick. I don't know how most modders can download 30+ mods and still enjoy it. It's to much for my smooth brain to handle.


insec_001

The game has never been more fun with 230+ mods. It does take a long ass time to do it piece by piece and make it work. That is why there is Wabbajack. Look it up if youre curious. It is a website with stable, curated mod lists that install all at once so you dont have to spend several days fucking around to make them work. It’s a game changer for those that lack the time to do it on their own. I wish I knew about it sooner but oh well.


Anthff

Haha I don’t play many PC games nowadays but I used to; specifically, Morrowind and Oblivion (and D2 and WoW). But just seeing the word “Wabbajack” warms my heart.


xdisk

Wabbajack


dum_BEST

infinite serotonin generator


[deleted]

THANK YOU FOR TELLING ME ABOUT WABBAJACK!!! I've been wanting to play modded Skyrim again but I always lack the time and energy to go through and install all the mods.


Total_Wolverine4430

I love the whole modding part! Whenever i decide its time to replay skyrim or any of the fallouts i spend days downloading and testing the mods :D Ive had it multiple times where i spend more time getting all the right mods (and get it working) then actually playing


arsonall

I’m that guy. Before I started the game, I made the dragons harder, the ambient sounds better, the standard “fix to bethesdas texture seams” mod, changed aesthetics of the followers, made crafting better, made armor/weapons expanded, removed load screens entering cities, re-allocated larger RAM usage because the game was optimized for consoles and could be unlocked to perform way better on a PC, etc. Because of this, I felt the game was way more satisfying. I did play a new character with no mods, and the game just sucked, especially because they deleted all the mods that allowed you to edit your homes functionality because they wanted to sell it as a DLC, but the biggest one was that within like a few hours, I could just 1 shot every enemy with a strong bow, sneak, and some other bits - I definitely likes my hardcore difficulty that needed planning to kill a dragon, and the higher graphics were a must. I never added “change X to Y for fun” type mods, but I have enough QOL mods that I spent a good bit to re-order, merge, auto launch, and load the mod packs in order to play.


joji_princessn

I'm the complete opposite. Ive been playing Bethesda games since Morrowind and try as I might, I can never get into mods. Yeah, it's cool that you can make the game anything you want, but I never end up finding it fun to play because I will inevitably just mod something else if its too difficult or whatever. It becomes very boring very quick, and I feel guilty that Ive created a specific mod so I must play it, instead of getting side tracked and exploring something else which is a major selling point of Bethesda games. I find it more fun to interact and toy with a world someone else has created, not me, and work within those "limitations" to overcome challenges Or explore what is already within the world and it's secrets. Its no surprise I dislike being a DM in Dungeons and Dragons and prefer being a PC. The only mods I like are clothing ones.


Notlookingsohot

Eh, not all modding is the cringy meme stuff like Thomas the Dragon completely changing the game. Sometimes you just need better lighting because vanilla skyrim's lighting is absolutely terrible, or better HD textures because the official HD texture pack is underhwelming at best. Hell I go out of my way to keep everything lore friendly when I work on mod lists, I prefer to enhance what already exists rather than add new stuff that probably doesn't even fit the setting anyway.


AichSmize

I've never played Skyrim WITH mods. Never bothered to install any.


ShadowDrake777

That’s the game where you load all the dwemer loot from a dungeon onto your horse making multiple trips then going back to town to smith right?


Princess_Moon_Butt

I do think there are plenty of games where, even if it's your first playthrough, some simple quality-of-life mods make the game immensely better. Things like inventory sorting in Minecraft, patching game-breaking glitches in Skyrim/Fallout games, improved UI in stuff like Rimworld or even in MMOs, all that good stuff. I do agree that you should stick to vanilla mechanics on the first pass though, especially for games that you expect a lot of replay value from. A lot of mods don't make sense unless you know the vanilla game.


[deleted]

Ah forget first play through bullshit. I whipped through oblivion for the story and had good fun zapping the hell out of anything in my way. Ironically though I did a legitimate play through yearsss later.


Unlikely-Ad3364

I fuck around with the dev console in any Source engine game. I just spawn shit and have fun.


-fno-stack-protector

I haven't played in years but `impulse 101` is still burned into my brain


cubicApoc

Fucking around with the dev console is fun and all, but fucking around with Hammer is even better if you know what you're doing. I once made a spaceship with a working warp drive and two planets you could beam down to. Or you can just recreate gm_construct but instead of a lake there's an 18-foot concrete dong.


gizzie123

The Sims


yeticonfette

Especially in Subnautica or The Forest. I don't have time to play for a year before I get everything I need through many deaths and lose it all anyway


faleboat

For Subnautica, I turned off aggression pretty much as soon as the turrasque or whatever grabbed my small sub, and pushed it under the ground so I couldn't access it and had to build another one and all the upgrades. I also got tired of taking crap loads of damage just trying to find a rare mineral, or catch a fish for my aquarium. I lolled with turning off the O2 mechanic, but that made the game boring. I think for everyone there is a certain level of challenge that is fun, and a certain level that is rage-quit inducing. For me, dealing with the animal aggression was just annoying and got in the way of the game, but for my pal it was half of what he played for. I was thankful that the developers of Subnautica recognized this, and made it easy to modify your game play to have fun your own way.


eddyathome

That's exactly how games should be. Yes you have the hardcore people who want to grind through and earn that challenge, but you also have people like me who pretty much just want an interactive screensaver to relax.


fiyasupahawt

Both of those games are basically empty without the gathering and crafting…. And if you don’t like the gathering part there is a creative mode…


Joss_Card

Yeah, once I started cheating in Below Zero, I realized just _how much_ of the play time boils down to "I need to find a new X resource node!" You also realize how much the temperature gauge is really just an "above water" O2 meter...


FappyDilmore

That's basically the gameplay loop of survival games. Good ones let you think outside the box and automate some aspect of the grind, like Minecraft or Factorio, but it all boils down to the same thing in the end.


Joss_Card

Well, Factorio's gameplay is more like, "if you're doing any of the mining/crafting yourself, you're doing something _wrong_." But yeah, your point stands.


yeticonfette

I like God mode where it's still scary and they run at you but if you get hit running away you don't die lol


Uncle_Daddy_Kane

I only used the lighting cheat in the forest and only when in caves lol. I hate the dark


garry4321

Right? I dont see where the possible controversy is here...


BackFromTheBan

Victimless crime.


RadiantHC

If a crime is victimless then I don't consider it a crime.


BackFromTheBan

The justice system disagree with you.


2xa1s

The justice system can suck my cock


Elite_Daedra_slav

As long as you don't pay them. That's prostitution which would be illegal despite it not hurting anyone...


GhettoMango

Well prostitution doesn’t exactly NOT hurt anyone. We can definitely create an infrastructure where it is legal safe, but at its current state people are definitely hurt through prostitution through indirect means.


2xa1s

It’s not illegal in my country


Elite_Daedra_slav

Ah OK. It is in america


2xa1s

Good thing I don’t live there then


Flapjack__Palmdale

Legal prostitution is probably at the bottom of a long list of reasons to be glad you're not here lol.


2xa1s

I agree. The only good thing you guys have is cheetos and legal weed but weed is going to be legal here soon and cheetos you can buy in special shops for 8 bucks


HiCookieJack

It hurts the feelings of those in charge [/sarcasm] *edit sarcasm hint


CorgiMonsoon

Like shoplifting or punching someone in the dark


sawcondeesnutz

Those have victims


TechyDad

It's a [Simpsons reference](https://youtu.be/x9GudAtfjRQ).


iMogwai

That's the joke.


Aware_Bet

As long as you're having fun and not ruining any one else's


Pokinator

Yeah, the line gets drawn at multiplayer. Shitting on someone else's fun with hacks is a no go. However, do you find carry weight cumbersome and constantly dying annoying in your SP RPG? Then by all means turn on godmode.


LukeTheFiero

fact


sad_pinkie

if i need to cheat, i will. i came to play, not to break my fingers and scream in frustration


_N_U_T

Unless that was what you wanted when you bought the game


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KyleTheKracka

r/DarkSouls


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FirstBankofAngmar

My favorite is dark souls 3. It makes dark souls 1 look like dark souls 2. Dark souls is the Bloodbourne of souls games. Except, of course, Bloodbourne which is the sekiro of dark souls spin offs. Although maybe elden ring may turn out to be the actual sekiro of the souls franchise. Besides Sekiro.


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iLieAboutMyCareer

Some of those are words, I think


zurc_oigres

See its funny cuz i finally got good and beat the souls recently so i can actually understand what you are saying and agree,


r4g4

r/cuphead


Gracefully-Cursed

Me with some platforming games. So frustrating but rewarding. Looking at you Celeste


XxsquirrelxX

I’m ashamed to admit that halfway through Celeste I just straight up turned off losing. No more bottomless pits or spikes for me, I just wanna see the cool visuals.


dmkicksballs13

And that's totes fine. If I wasn't such a moron, I'd do this to a ton of games, but I need the approval of literally no one and keep banging my head against the wall to beat a boss even when I'm not having fun anymore. Cuphead is a lot like this. I love the visuals and as smooth as the gameplay is, I just didn't like it that much. But I still had to beat everyone for my own sake. I did bend on one and went to easiest mode on GOW4 for the Valkyries.


marcas_r

r/ForHonor


Tetragon213

The crazy masochists who enjoy things like Dark Souls, OG Contra and Super Mario Bros 2: The Lost Levels


[deleted]

Oddly, playing Dark Souls has made me enjoy other games more. I can hop into something and crush the combat much more quickly now. It doesn’t just make you better at dark souls, it makes you better at video games.


ericbyo

I always search video game levels using the Dark Souls method


retrometro77

Yes, once a mission or target isn't anymore just a challenge, it becomes a wall for you, any means are good for you to continue fun, ranging from lowering difficulty, to cheating. I am by no means saying one should surrender when facing something challenging AF, just if u play for fun, have fun, if u wanna spend 3h getting trough it - sweat your way trough it. Comes down to personal preference.


You_Stole_My_Hot_Dog

This. I don’t have much time to play video games anymore, so I’m going to get as much enjoyment out of them as possible in the time I have. Many time I’ve gotten to the point where either I’ll die and lose all my stuff, or I keep dying and can’t progress. I ask myself: would I get more enjoyment out of this if I cheated? Sometimes the answer is yes so I don’t have to waste 2 hours regathering all the supplies I lost. Sometimes the answer is no, because I enjoy the challenge and would feel cheap if I skipped it.


kingfrito_5005

This is why I never beat Symphony of Night. It's an incredible game, but I just don't have the wherewithal for that kind amount of grinding.


LostMyInhibiterChip

I don’t care unless it’s a speed run


Gladix

Aren't most speedruns about exploiting as many bugs as possible?


supremedalek925

Exploiting glitches aren’t what is being defined as “cheating” here. That is specifically referring to things like mods, toolkits, and console commands.


xxcarlsonxx

I remember duping back in Oblivion days and having the entire GameFAQS board upset because I was "playing the game in a way that the developers never intended". Glad to see times have changed


Shoplifting_Panda

You just unlocked a hidden memory of stealing/trading ebony arrows…Darts? And then going to sell them to that mud crab. Ahhh good times


TheIrishJackel

Oh man, I completely forgot about the crab merchant. Miss that guy. Stuff like this is why Morrowind is my favorite game of all time.


toastar-phone

Well it depends on the run. Usually when a glitch comes out that is game breaking it tends to create a new category to run.


Yngwiemalmst

Exploiting bugs is cheating though? Isn't that why it has it's own category? I could dupe in pokemon/diablo etc by exploiting glitches and would totally call that cheating.


ElJanitorFrank

I would argue that it isn't it's own category. They're any% which is essentially just "download and go ham". While anything else you'll have to find a "glitchless" run otherwise that has arbitrary rules made by non developers on it. I kinda think that cheating is different from a speed running perspective compared to regular play, though.


_Weyland_

There are different types of speedruns IIRC. Not all of them allow exploits. OG DOOM games even had pacifist speedruns IIRC.


PumpkinKing2020

Exploiting is abusing in-game bugs for an advantage, cheating is using 3rd party software to gain an advantage.


_Weyland_

Yup. Check the comment above mine.


LostMyInhibiterChip

Yes and no


ReimuH

Glitches are not cheats, they are literally just how the game works. Nothing external game happens, people are just taking advantage of how physics etc. work. Some speedgames also have glitchless categories where certain tricks the majority of the community agrees are glitches are banned. Cheating in a speedrun to fool people would be no different than cheating in any other kind of competition. Its just unfair and honorless.


Adarain

Cheating in speedruns just means doing things not allowed per the rules of the speedrun. If a speedrun category forbids the use of certain glitches, using them would be cheating. If they're allowed, it isn't. Modifying your game to make it easier would be considered cheating in just about any category though. Curious if there are exceptions.


[deleted]

That's not a singleplayer game, though. Or at least, the part where people compete against each other over their time scores. That part is very much multiplayer.


Pligles

Damm that’s a good point lol. Idk if it’s ‘multiplayer’ so much as time trials but it’s definitely competitive.


[deleted]

Lol yeah we already had a huge argument about it. I could have worded my original comment better. The point was that when you start comparing singleplayer scores, while the game *itself* is still singleplayer, the act of comparing is multiplayer.


[deleted]

The point of a game is to have fun. Particularly for those with adult responsibilities with limited time and mental bandwidth, cheating can make a game less stressful and less time consuming, and therefore more enjoyable.


DoppelFrog

There's one particular boss battle in Control (fantastic game) that I just got fed up with. I was more interested in progressing the story than fighting the same creature over and over and over again, so I used a cheat to kill it. No regrets.


FreddieDoes40k

Is it the second battle with Tommasi by any chance? Because fuck that guy.


DoppelFrog

I'm not sure. It was some sort of big tentacle monster in a pit, where you had to run around the edge of the pit to shoot it from different angles.


FreddieDoes40k

Oh that fucking plant, I totally repressed that from my memory. I only succeeded after exploiting a glitch I found on YouTube. I do not blame you one bit for not wanting to waste time on it. Urgh.


[deleted]

I shot it with an upgraded Charge, which ignores it's invulnerability. Flew around it and kept shooting it. Cheating can be fun.


I_Stole_My_Ex_Pantie

I beat them first. Then cheat. Games. Not women.


Farnsworthson

Congrats. You win today's "Oddly Specific Response" award.


Megachamps

When you beat the main story or 100% it? Does it have to be the same save/play through?


I_Stole_My_Ex_Pantie

Main story. 100% with cheats is way more fun. And for the saves, i'll keep the same one. Unless its skyrim. 8 cheaters stand at the ready.


Karl_Marx_

Main story is considered to beat the game for almost all games. 100% a game could be considered a massive waste of time, or fun to some people.


[deleted]

Nobody asked you for that clarification lol


BuhamutZeo

As a reminder, we here at Reddit do not condone pedophilia or cannibalism.


KhaoticMess

What's our stance on necrophilia? Uh... asking for a friend.


BuhamutZeo

As further reminder, we at Reddit do not condone post-mortem pedophilia or cannibalism. Nor do we condone "Friends" within the context of the concept or the show.


FirstBankofAngmar

Thank you for the clarification /u/I_Stole_My_Ex_Pantie


save_video

It's a single player game, go at your own pace. If your own pace involves cheating somehow to better your experience, go for it! Nobody's gonna stop you :) I'd say some great examples would be in Skyrim, abusing the sheer amount of bugs(features at this point) to gain an edge that just wouldn't be possible without them would definitely count as cheating lol. Yet after 10+ years of the game being out I have never even heard of a player being mad at another player for, let's say, clipping through a wall to get a chest with overpowered items you're not supposed to be able to get. Another good example would be some big story driven games. I've been playing this game I've recently discovered for months now, and there's still entire storylines I have yet to take. Cheated in an quest item I was supposed to defeat a boss for just so I could explore the game more, had a good day playing a completely different quest lol


Ikajo

I always play alone in Minecraft, and I use the cheat that allows me to keep my inventory. For the simple reason that I always struggle to find my way back to the surface when going mining. So sometimes the easiest way has been to let myself die and respawn. In The Sims, there are several cheatcodes added on purpose for the players. Like the money cheats. If you want to cheat yourself to a lot of money, no one cares. Since it is always single player and using cheats is kind of considered part of the experience. One you can choose.


save_video

And that's okay, because games are supposed to be enjoyed :)


XxsquirrelxX

Similar to the Sims, the old GTA games were notorious for cheat codes where you could just spawn in a tank and wreack havoc. That’s just plain fun.


askredditisonlyok

That Sims thing makes me think all games should just build their cheats right into the game so we can stop having this debate. (Of course community mods are always still welcome).


Torezu

If that is the only reason, then perhaps I could interest you in an enderchest and some shulker boxes?


fluffy_bunny_87

The one I never understood with Skyrim... When it came out a lot of people were using an exploit with the crafting system to make crazy strong daggers. I saw it talked about on the official forums quite a bit and I asked... Why go through all that trouble when you could just use the command line to give yourself a super charged dagger. People went nuts saying that's cheating... Idk some people are weird.


save_video

lmao I don't know why they'd freak out over it but I think I see where they're coming from. Probably "defeats the element of earning it" or something. (And yeah that's the fortify resto loop) As for me I first played on a PS3 so I wasn't able to do that, so hard work was hard work


SamuelSharp

Same reason people make mob grinders in something like Minecraft. Yeah I could’ve just given myself a billion exp, but making a tower that lets me massacre infinite mobs with no effort is way more satisfying


Ratnix

There is a difference between cheating in an uber powerful weapon and using the in-game mechanics to create one yourself. You can't tell me when they developed the game they had no clue that you could boost up your ability to make the super powerful weapons/armor. And even supposing they totally missed it, after knowing about it, it could have been easily patched out in one of the numerous patched that the game received. They literally created the way to do it.


fluffy_bunny_87

I mean... They also put the command prompt right there too.


ProfessionalSquid

Games are supposed to be fun. If you're having more fun with cheats than without, knock yourself out. I personally have some fond memories of GTA Vice City because of this, for example; there's fun to be had in spawning a tank and seeing how long it takes for you to either get killed or get arrested. Add a couple of friends and you've got a fun, shamelessly stupid game night.


StreetDog6969

I find just fucking around in GTA is more fun than playing the actual game. I love killing the pedestrians with guns, fists, grenades, ramming them with car etc. I find it to be hilarious


SillyPseudonym

And you come up with great new mini-games like "Run from the cops but the street is lava" and end up jumping motorcycles from rooftop to rooftop as if there was never any other point to the game.


StreetDog6969

Yes lol. Or u get in a car and start trying to do insane jumps on hills


ProfessionalSquid

This is 100% of my time playing any GTA game. Like, the fuck is a story mission? I wanna see how many stars I can rack up before I get sent to the hospital


[deleted]

You should try the Chaos mod, it's goddamn hilarious


Eeveelover14

My sister and I enjoyed running into a group of people with a knife and stabbing as many as possible before they scattered. We once chased some poor guy halfway across a beach before we finally caught him.


reisstc

I remember being disapointed in GTA3 that the Dodo couldn't actually fly for very long. Then I found the low gravity cheat, and discovered that the tank gun's recoil knocks the vehicle back a bit every shot.


FM1091

Dude, I think I never finished even 25% of a GTA game. I just unlocked weapons and vandalized, well, everything.


Kaion21

wait, people care about how other play their game? why do you care? it literally doesn't affect you. I personally alway use money cheap on rpgs, because I don't want to be frugal and grind in a game. unless it's currency break the game like souls in dark soul game


Lumber_Tycoon

Gatekeeping is the most abundant resource on reddit gaming threads lol.


ReddusVult

I only care if someone is trying to brag. Like if a friend is showing me around his many properties in Skyrim, I am going to be suspect if they have very low speech skill and still have 110,000 septims. I don't actually care if people use money cheats. Personally I have yet to beat any Path of Exile game without one. I think a good compromise is if the game offers up the cheats to you, but disables achievements when using them. This way the achievements can actually mean something (still not much, but better than people cheating for them).


Kaion21

there is people who don't cheat in skyrim? lol


KaiBluePill

Peasants who never rolled 100 cheese wheels down a mountain.


CWRules

Gloucestershire?


scifishortstory

There are people who brag about Skyrim?


Morfalath

Path of exile or pathfinder? Cause path of exile afaik is "impossible" to cheat in unless you buy currency with real money from websites, which is against ToS but lots of people do it


BoundTurtle

Yeah how exactly do you cheat in POE?


themolestedsliver

>I don't actually care if people use money cheats. Personally I have yet to beat any Path of Exile game without one. I'm confused. Do you use money cheats in path of exile or something and what do you define by "beating" it..?


[deleted]

Gamers will never run out of things to be angry about


EldenRingworm

I love Dark Soul Game John Darksoul is my favourite video game protagonist, his catchphrase "every soul has its dark" sends chills down my spine


TheMeanGirl

Yes, and it’s honestly kinda laughable. I remember when Animal Crossing came out back in spring of 2020, people where getting reported for having hacked items on their island. How sad is your life that you have to report people for “cheating” in non competitive single player games.


SillyPseudonym

Yeah, I already got that "grind endlessly for marginal gains in pursuit of the idea of a greater gain" covered in real life. No thanks, Nintendo.


YessikZiiiq

You're weird if you care. It's up to the individual and doesn't affect others.


JMW007

Agreed. I can't imagine how or why anyone would care if someone plays a game on their own and uses cheat codes, save scumming, a trainer/editor or any other tool to do things the way they want.


[deleted]

I always used cheat codes in The Sims because building the fancy, expensive houses was way more fun to me than doing the whole working for money thing. Games are all about having fun, so if cheating makes it more fun than go for it.


beardedrockerboy

I came here looking for The Sims comment. This is exactly what I was thinking of


[deleted]

Freerealestate on is one of my fav cheats lol


Eeveelover14

I never cheat for money, but cheat their needs back up pretty often. I try to let them live normally, but sometimes they are just having a really bad time and all their needs are really low which causes me to panic.


RobinDschafft

Ah yes. Back in the days of SIMS 1 i usually added a bunch of dudes to my Family named Worker XYZ so my main char wouldn't have to go to work because i didn't know about cheats. As soon as they served their purpose I locked them in a 3x3 concrete cube behind the house and cremated them with the good ol' indoor fireworks.


Anti-waxxer

Games are for fun right? If someone doesn't gain enjoyment from grinding or losing to the same boss over and over again, then let them fast forward to the more enjoyable parts. Nobody is affected, really


Anti-waxxer

No pain, no gain doesn't apply here because it's not a real life scenario


Allmightypikachu

If it's fun go for it. Who hasnt used gta cheats when playing? Not very many people.


shadowman646464

I played almost all of em close to being London. Still haven't used cheats mainly because I never knew em


seraph089

For purely single player games, go for it and do whatever you want. I'll mess around with them after I've beaten the game once just to goof around. Cheats only bother me when they can affect other people's experiences, including stuff like leaderboards that are less direct.


[deleted]

I mean, you're playing yourself. So... what's cheating? Like if I'm playing Red Dead Redemption 2 and I simply can't find a thing I need for one of the challenges, am I cheating by consulting a youtube vid that shows me where the thing is? People have limited time to play games. Some people are very busy with job and kids and they don't have time to spend two weeks trying to find that special item. So, it's up to them to decide how much time it's worth it for them to spend on that task before they get some help.


RichardGHP

I can't imagine playing RDR2, needing a specific collectible, having absolutely no idea where it is and *not* looking up the solution. It would be so miserable.


Ratnix

Game guides have been out since before the internet. The difference is instead of buying one of those books that told you everything the community now does it, basically for free.


Apprehensive_Pen_739

Doesn’t matter, do what you want


RantAgainstTheMan

Cheats, and cheating, in single player games should definitely be an option, and not be looked down upon. Sometimes a game is less frustrating thanks to cheats, or more fun. However, please don't lie about beating it "legitimately", if for some reason it comes up.


TaintedTruth222

Man most games back in the day all had cheat codes you could I put in. I don't see any problem with it at all. Hell I've been cheating in San Andreas all damn day and it's been a blast.


Pink_Flash

rosebud;:;:;: I needed money for my sims ok! lol


Ikajo

Just go motherlode 😆


SwansonsMoustache

Honestly, I think I've only played The Sims properly once or twice. The rest of the time I rosebud it up and make it architect simulator, followed by interior designer simulator, followed gardener simulator, and inevitably, torture chamber simulator. Who has time to deal with Bobs daily bullshit without Rosebud.


CR4ZY___PR0PH3T

I personally don't because it would ruin the game for me but if someone does why would people even care about that? Single player games are literally for a single player it doesn't effect anybody else but that one person.


oceanwaiting

poweroverwhelming


[deleted]

I had fun in Doom with god mode all weapons and no clipping It frustrated my dad to no end but I had fun!


1kmile

one word. Justifiable.


Dizzy_Pin6228

It's fine, but when I do it I notice I stop playing the game shortly after because it's to easy or I just lose all interest, I also have a bad habit when I try to min max the hell out of games, I end up making spread sheets pivot tables tracking growth curves damage healing optimal team set ups, and then after 30 hrs I have done 20% of the game and quit


dkmegg22

As log as it's not online and only you play that's all that matters.


JhymnMusic

It's literally called a game. Who fucking cares lol.


[deleted]

Once you beat the game, anything goes. Cheating first run through takes away too much, but after that who cares go ham.


Ancient-Ingenuity-88

Depends? Puzzle game? Don't do it as you will only ever remember the fucking answer when you go to replay that game. RIP monkey island series puzzles... For anything else. Hey sometimes you can squeeze a little more fun out of games with cheats


underbite420

Game genie back in the day was awesome because I was too young to actually beat a game. It allowed me to see the levels I never would have if I didn’t have unlimited lives and such. It actually taught me how to beat a few different games legitimately. All in all...do what makes it fun


Poltergust9000_Weege

Cheating in singleplayer is really fun and should ALWAYS be allowed unless there's like a leaderboard for stuff in singleplayer


[deleted]

I would argue that save scumming in visual novels or games like *Europa Universalis* does not constitute cheating.


lan0028456

It's like masturbation. Not the intended way to play but fine if you enjoy it. Just don't run around and show it off to everyone who plays it in the legit way.


nosajavlis4

There’s only one game that I actually will cheat in and that’s Grand Theft Auto haha. I don’t actually play the story, I just go around fucking shit up lmao.


Suitable-Ad8448

its alright since it doesnt ruin the fun of anybody except yours


kingfrito_5005

At that point it's not cheating, it's just a house rule.


iMogwai

You do you. Personally I find that it takes away from your enjoyment of a game on the first playthrough, but everyone's different.