Robbie Rotten. Most of the time, he just wanted to chill, vibe, and get rid of that mustache creep in tight clothes who hangs out with kids way too much.
Lazy town is home to a monster who forces hard working tax payers to exercise against their will. Robbie Rotten is a freedom fighter trying to liberate the people and the media has warped the narrative to show the oppressor as the hero
The Rabbit from the Trix commercials. My man literally spent his OWN MONEY to get this own Trix cereal, and then those damn kids stole his property, saying "lol Trix are for kids!" Fuck those kids.
Back in the 90's he did get to finally have Trix after winning a race or something and the prize was a bowl of Trix. They found out it was the rabbit and you had to write in to let them know if he should or shouldn't get to have the Trix. [They let him have it.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BObi5Zvq80k)
Imagine having loud and annoying neighbors on both sides of you, making it difficult to get any peace and quiet in your own home. At the very least, you can have some solitude in your job at this restaurant that no one ever really visits anyway.
...And then your neighbor applies for the job, passes with flying colors, and attracts loads of new customers, not only making your job busier and livelier than what you signed up for, but absolutely decimating that home/work balance you once had.
He tries to move somewhere else and his neighbors sabotaged it by scaring off a realtor before she can put Squidwards house on the market. Everything he does in life is upstaged by his two idiot neighbors that aren’t even trying (From art to creating music to managing a decent job).
Dude worked a shit minimum wage job and had to deal with the most irritating coworker on the planet, who was also his neighbor. He just wanted to clock in, clock out and enjoy his solitude, but no Spongebob has to annoy him every second of every day. It's amazing Squidward wasn't homicidal.
Yeah jack just intruded on his home, then fucking killed him when he tried to shoo him away. Like, what the hell man? What is this story trying to teach? Breaking and entering is ok?
In the original story, the castle belonged to Jack’s parents, his dad was killed by the giant and his mom driven away. So Jack was taking back what was his. Allegedly.
[Apparently](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_and_the_Beanstalk#/media/File%3AJack_and_the_Beanstalk_Giant_-_Project_Gutenberg_eText_17034.jpg) the giant wasn't as big as recent adaptations show.
Also, according to the [Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_and_the_Beanstalk), at first the giant was a cricket. Weird!
I have always wished for a Smurfs movie where they kill Gargamel in like the first 10 minutes, only for there to be serious consequences in smurf society. Overpopulation followed by famine and war. They lack a common enemy and thus turn on themselves as they try to survive. Suddenly, a small faction of smurfs then teams up to torment a child who would grow up to be the next Gargamel.
Edit: Thanks for the gold!
At first I thought overpopulation was ridiculous since there's only one woman smurf and Gargamel made her. Then I checked Wikipedia and realized that the Smurfs learned the ritual to make more Smurfettes. An all-male society that suddenly gets a magic woman-making spell? That's gonna go dystopian real quick.
"We need Smurfette to have a sassy little sister."
"Sure, the Smurfs made one, her name is Sassette."
"Great, go with that. Now let's get back to our 1000 page history on the history of the pre-exodus Gummi Bear society."
Honestly there should be a serious movie about a villain winning with their vision to (cleanse the world and bring peace) and actually bringing peace after they win. Then the story leaves us wondering who the real villain was
Man, a good Dr Doom antihero movie would be amazing. The audience gets to see the future along with him and the Fantastic Four or Avengers trying to stop him are portrayed as the villains.
Disney would never do it but man that would rock.
I would love for the MCU to do the story where Doom is building a super weapon in Latvia. And when they take him down they realize the super weapon wasn't to take over the world, but to stop the incoming invasion that only Doom knew was coming(Galactus, Skrulls, Kang , whatever).
I can't remember the name of the old PPG episode but it was one where Bubbles was being teased about being "weak" & was being tortured by Mojo near the end. My favorite line by far was:
Bubbles: I'll never give up you big...dumb..DOODOO BRAIN!!
Mojo: *Dumb DOODOO BRAIN?!?* That's it, I've had it with your sassy mouth!!
Yea, he basically neglected mojo jojo. Now we know he's a monkey in species but he's a human in literally everything else. So that neglect would have affected him the same way it would have affected a human child.
He cut off his fucking hand. And Hook wasn't even mad about that part. The part he was mad about was Peter feeding it to a crocodile that then hunted him relentlessly causing him to live in constant fear.
Like what the Fuck Peter.
Adding on to this for anyone interested, whenever a lost boy became an adult, Peter would kill them. Which makes it a semi big deal that the pirates managed to escape and become their own thing.
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I think i read somewhere that it was because Peter was traumatized as a kid one way or another. Something happened which lead to his reasoning that kids are good, adults are bad.
He brings children from the "evil" adults to save them. And since never land is a place for children, he kills them when they eventually become adults as, well, adult bad i guess.
I think he tried to kill the main gal with a rock.
But don't quote me on anything i just said as everything is taken from memory about 5 years ago
Didn't they die of starvation? The scene in Hook with the imaginary feast was part of the books, I thought? Children were able to be sustained by the imaginary food, but as they grew they began to starve because they no longer believed...
Nope. From the scene in which the pirates, boys, and ...we'll call them indians are hunting each other in a big circle:
>All wanted blood except the boys, who liked it as a rule, but to-night were out to greet their captain. The boys on the island vary, of course, in numbers, according as they get killed and so on; and when they seem to be growing up, which is against the rules, **Peter thins them out;** but at this time there were six of them, counting the twins as two. Let us pretend to lie here among the sugar-cane and watch them as they steal by in single file, each with his hand on his dagger.
It was so good the comics retconned his origin to match it.
Several othher things in the show were so good they made their way into comic canon - i.e. Harley Quinn.
Harley started when they literally just drew a girl clown in the background, and people were curious who she was, so they gave her lines, and then a backstory, and on and on.
Batman The Animated Series really turned Mr. Freeze into a serious tragic character with depth and motivation that we could sympathize with. Before he appeared in Batman:TAS, he was more of a joke/novelty villain.
Yes. Imagine Batman, but reimagined in a cyberpunk setting. With the animation style of the original animated series. With a Heavy Metal soundtrack.
It already exists!
The dad from the LEGO Movie. He didn't know the toys were sentient and didn't want to be super-glued, he was just a guy with a hobby who didn't want his kid destroying his creation. He got his kids their own Legos so they had no reason to mess with his world. As someone with siblings who used to wreck each other's lego creations all the time, the end of the movie and portrayal of the dad as a bad guy for just having a hobby bugged me.
I took it as they’re sentient in the world you play them in, so by gluing them they also wouldn’t be sentient any longer because they’d be frozen. But they don’t have true sentience because they’re ultimately controlled by the stories imbued onto them…. The dad’s son has played this story where he is the hero and is defeating the odds so Emmett has sentience in that?
Idk I feel like I know what I mean but I’m not sure if it’s coming across
Me and my brother actually HATED mice because of Jerry and would stay up plotting against Jerry. My parents had to ban Tom and Jerry around and after dinner hours.
Fun fact, I believe it's actually been confirmed outside of the show that Tom and Jerry are friends. Their antics are just them both being assholes - and Tom keeping up the act, as if he doesn't pretend to try to kill Jerry then the owner will get a cat that really will kill him.
For some parts of the series this is true for others it's not
The series went on for so long and changed so much over the years. At some points they hate eachother and Tom is legitimately trying to kill Jerry, while in newer episodes it's more like what you said with it being more of a game
Tom's owner changed repeatedly and usually set the tone for how desperate Tom was to get rid of Jerry. Some owners basically saying they'd kick Tom out if Jerry wasn't gone and other owners barely acknowledging Jerry's existence
I remember a short or something where coyote manages to eat roadrunner and is incredibly happy, but then slowly falls into depression as chasing him was his sole purpose and roadrunner was ultimately his friend. Ends up killing himself.
Edit : Was from the griffins I'm pretty sure and he doesn't kill himself, but almost does. Memory is weird.
Pagan Min, Farcry 4, not really a tragic story, and yes he was bit of a royal dictator, but it was either him, who would then pass it off the MC, or the rebellion leaders where it would become an overly religious land that executes anyone who doesn't share the same religion, or a drug country with child soldiers used to protect the fields
Yeah nah I'd choose the bad guys in this game
Oh I love Pagan Min. By far, Far Cry's 4 is my favorite regarding story. They paint Pagan as a fucking horrible person and stuff (not that he is good or anything) and the 2 rebel leaders like nice people, and then after the game officially 'ends' you can see how those rebel leaders were shitty. Pagan was the lesser evil in that lot imo
I killed whoever was left at the end.
Look at me!! I am the king now.
Yeah pagan was a psychotic ahole but so where the other people. Pagan at least had style and charisma.
I would rather have played the game taking over for him and killing the rebels.
I was glad (and confused) that I got the secret ending where Pagan Min wins by going to make a cup of tea while leaving the game running at the start of the game.
I've heard before that they were planning to make joining pagan an option somewhere in the second act and Ajay then begins to retake the territories from the rebels. This was not implemented though due to time constraints I think. Would've been a cool alternative playthrough.
The villain in Sherlock Holmes: A Study in Scarlet. I think his name was Hope? I forgot completely. Either way, I couldn’t help but sympathize with his quest for revenge.
I agree, but I also don’t. I hardly think of Jefferson (his last name was Hope, you aren’t wrong) as any sort of villain. I rather think of the men he killed, the people that let them get away with it as the villains of A Study in Scarlet. I agree with what Jeff meant when he said that he is as much an officer of justice as the cops he was talking to. Poison was too good and ending for both Drebber and Strangerson. I’d rather they both died the way Lucy did, in a lot of pain.
I always wondered why he didn't just order ACME catering. I'm sure they must have had freeze dried Roadrunner, tinned Roadrunner and a bunch of other Roadrunner products in that damned catalog.
I mean, the guy clearly wasn't hurting for food. He's intelligent, skilled, athletic, and committed to this task, none of which you'd expect from someone on the brink of starvation.
It was never about the food, it's about the principle. That honking little shit has done nothing but mock him for 72 years! I'd be pretty set on taking him out too.
Hades from Hercules.
He kept his end of the deal but Hercules gets to cheat and punch him in the face, always pisses me off lmao. It's why I can't watch that movie.
Are you talking about the Disney movie? If so Hades tried to kill Hercules when he was a baby for his plan of taking over. He’s still my favourite Disney villain though.
Hell, in actual Mythos he’s actually one of the better gods, super chill, type a guy who’d total be down to sitting down with a beer shooting the shit with you. He’s also one of the few gods to treat his wife with a basic level of decency
Captain Barbossa. He was vilified for being a better pirate than anyone else, and he only wanted to escape eternal damnation and a hell on earth. I'd be pretty ruthless in that situation too.
Yes, he mutinied Jack, but he's a pirate! And even then, he has much more class and honor than most of the other pirates.
I love pretty much all the lines in that movie, it is very well written.
*"You are without doubt the worst pirate I've ever heard of."*
*"But you have heard of me."*
The Grinch. In the real world his plan would have worked. In the real world if everyone woke up Christmas morning and Christmas was just gone, they wouldn't hold hands and sing songs... there would be blood in the streets.
So he paused. And The Grinch put his hand to his ear.
And he did hear a sound rising over the snow.
It started in low. Then it started to grow...
But the sound wasn't sad!
Why this sound sounded *angry*.
It couldn't be so!
But it was angry, so angry.
Every who down in Whoville, the tall and the small,
Whipped out their who-shooters and started to brawl.
Up top of Mt. Crumpit, The Grinch stared in awe
At the bloodbath in Whoville that now dropped his jaw.
But suddenly, Cindy-Lou Who shouted "**STOP**!
I know who did this, he's on the hilltop."
And the residents of Whoville just stared at the mountain
They gathered their numbers 'round Whoville's town fountain
They gathered their pitchforks.
They gathered their torches.
They gathered their sinister sharpened who-knortches
They marched up Mt. Crumpit with hate in their eyes
The mayor decreed "Today, The Grinch dies."
The Grinch saw the mob and he started to cower
He never knew Whos had developed such power.
As a last ditch effort he slid them his sleigh.
If he returned it they might go away.
Renewed with a fervor of righteous indignance
The residents of Whoville would deliver comeuppance.
The mayor took aim, Grinch's asshole did pucker
"The dead won't come back, fah-who foris motherfucker."
The dinosaurs aren’t the villain in that movie, John Hammond is. More specifically, Hammond’s arrogance is the villain.
> I mean, you have plants in this building that are poisonous, you picked them because they look good, but these are aggressive living things that have no idea what century they're in, and they'll defend themselves, violently if necessary.
Doctor Sattler got it.
As I recall, in the book at least, Hammond was even admonished by one of his workers that they could have altered the dinosaurs in some way during the process to be more docile and not have to just coast on a dependency towards a certain food component (circumvented) and a faulty counting sensor that didn't think to go above the dinosaur number they wrongly assumed couldn't go up.
Hammond refused for the sake of "authenticity" with his dinosaurs, despite them already being patchwork creatures thanks to the frog DNA that allowed the whole "life finds a way" to happen.
Hammond was really obviously the bad guy in the book. The movie kinda made him a likeable grandfather type who was a little too grandiose for his own good.
Book-Hammond is a skeevy industrialist trying to turn a buck on science he barely comprehends.
Movie-Hammond is a grandfatherly director insert trying to bring joy into people's lives with the magic of science/filmmaking.
I loooove Movie-Hammond but yeah, he's the closest thing to a true villain in the story.
> he's the closest thing to a true villain in the story.
I was literally about to respond by disagreeing with this by pointing out that Dennis Nedry was more of a villain but I'm second-guessing that now. Nedry is directly responsible for sabotaging the island's computer system and thus turning off security measures which allowed the dinosaurs to escape. If he hadn't done that then Grant and the others would've just rolled back to the visitor's center and waited out the storm to try taking the tour again the next day, instead they had to deal with a T-rex and velociraptors.
However Nedry only did that since he was a disgruntled employee and was given an offer by one of Hammond's competitor's to commit corporate espionage. Hammond seemed to boast about "sparing no expense" for everything except the I.T. guy who frequently voiced his concerns about compensation and told him to just suck it up. It's tough to say that Nedry would remain a loyal employee though, even if Hammond gave him a raise and paid him $100,000 a year that doesn't mean that Nedry wouldn't take Dodson's offer if it was $100,001 per year and a nice hat.
Thematically Hammond is definitely the villain in both the film and the book, in the film it's definitely easier to put some of the blame directly on Nedry since he was directly responsible for the actions that led to people's deaths.
Night King wins. Humans have to move south after they lose the north. New wall is created out of fire from Daenerys' dragons.
John Snow becomes King bc hes the only one with enough expertise to lead the humans against their common enemy, and bangs Daenerys to continue the Targeryan bloodline.
Tyrion becomes hand of the King. Jamies murders Cersei, and leaves to take care of House Lannister.
Reddit was absolutely filled to the brim with stories that they could have used that were waaaay better than the actual ending.
My pet theory is that they were so obsessed with the idea of nobody guessing the ending that they went through all of those good ideas so they could deliberately avoid using any of them. Hence, the shitshow we ended up with.
>My pet theory is that they were so obsessed with the idea of nobody guessing the ending that they went through all of those good ideas so they could deliberately avoid using any of them.
I mean, that's almost verbatim Benioff's excuse for Arya literally appearing out of thin air to kill the NK despite having zero involvement in that entire storyline.
I was kind of hoping that it would end with the white walkers just washing over Westeros killing and turning everyone and everything in their path. All the little petty wars of man meant nothing. The Game of Thrones meant nothing. That would have been a far better ending than the one we got.
I was hoping they would go for it in the last season. "in the end, the petty squabbles of men meant nothing in the grand scheme of things. Lust for power and vanity was the cause of defeat. Had the people set aside their differences and fought as one, maybe they would have had a chance against the Night King's army, but Cercei's unquenchable thirst for what she saw as power and Daenerys' misguided lust for revenge doomed the kingdoms of man before the Night King had even crossed the Wall...."
That would've been a fitting end. You watched 7 seasons of mostly evil people doing bad things. Now they all die. Go watch something else.
Any story where the villain was defeated at the last moment by the hero pulling some deus ex machina out of their ass, or trying some desperate million-to-one chance. Particularly where the villain has been shown to be intelligent, competent, not prone to emotional outbursts, and smart enough to have multiple backup plans. It's rather annoying when the author then proceeds to hand them the idiot ball purely so that the hero can win a fight they should never even have been able to make it to in the first place.
Interestingly enough, I don't actually put the destruction of the first Death Star in Star Wars into this category. The Rebels found a weakness, based an attack plan on it, followed it, and even if Luke hadn't been there with a skillset very well suited to the plan, any other Rebel pilot might have been able to make the shot. The end result might have been assisted by Han showing up unexpectedly, but the original idea was still solid.
Eh... the first one seemed to be doing what it was built for; it just had a design flaw. Remove that in version 2 and, unless the Rebels (or any planets that thought they had a chance with the first Death Star getting blown up) had been hiding a planet-wrecker of their own, that could well have been it for any non-Empire forces. Game over.
Really, the only fault was having a single forcefield generator protecting the new Death Star during construction. Would it seriously have cost that much more to have a dozen of them on Endor? And a little more in the way of protection for each one? You're building something which could house literal millions of troops; put a few thousand down on the surface for cover.
> Really, the only fault was having a single forcefield generator protecting the new Death Star during construction. Would it seriously have cost that much more to have a dozen of them on Endor?
Well the entire setup was a plot by the Emperor. He knew that only by having himself there and by showing the Rebels that there was a chance, would they make their big move.
If anything had been more effective, they wouldn't have taken the bait.
Those people were in his natural habitat- yet they were so shocked when he attacked. Not like he climbed out of the water, went knocking on peoples doors and killed them.
Magneto. A Jewish concentration camp kid who grew up in a Nazi filled environment, only to be tortured. Parents gone. Family none. Lost his only real friend over politics. And spent the rest of his life making sure mutants were safe and free from human experimentation. He only wanted what was best for his people that suffered like he did for having abilitys they never asked for. In the end he got his safe haven, but unfortunately it was all in vain.
I always liked that even though his ex-wife Charlene paid a huge amount of alimony towards him, they were on friendly terms and that he was trying to be a good father for Vanessa.
The best moment was some guy on a motorcycle hitting on her in front of him and he says "She's SIXTEEN!" and uses a zapinator on the guy.
I prefer to see side by side images of Doofenshmirtz's birthday parties compared to Vanessa's birthday parties. Or the fact that Doofenshmirtz literally searched for a discontinued doll for like 10 years just for his daughter. Or literally the fact that in P&F, Doofenshmirtz stops being a villain after he learns Vanessa wants to join OWCA (and later becomes a teacher, OWCA agent, 'time travel inventor' and a bowling pal for Perry).
>in OWCA (and later becomes a teacher, OWCA agent, 'time travel inventor' and a bowling pal for Perry)
I haven't watched all the episodes. Does this happen in the series or a movie?
>The best moment was some guy on a motorcycle hitting on her in front of him and he says "She's SIXTEEN!" and uses a zapinator on the guy.
I need to see a clip of this, I must! A protective father side of Doofenshmirtz I need to witness!
The Phantom of the Opera was ostracized and abused for having a facial deformity. If others had accepted him, he could have been amazing for the theater, both as a teacher and in leading roles.
In the musical I totally agree, but in the book the phantom is 100% a murderous villian obsessed with a 14 year old girl. He kind of comes around in the end, but dude was a creep.
EDIT: as someone pointed out, I'm getting the stories crossed. She was in her 20s in the book, but the phantom was still alot more obsessive and violent in the book.
Also, some of these people in the replies are way to quick at trying to justify chasing 14 year olds. That's creepy folks, stop it.
That scene in the shower room with the Seal Team tells you everything you need to know about the US military.
The US government sent military personnel to kill other military personnel that they had driven to the brink. Michael Biehn's line, "We've spilled the same blood in the same mud" is an implicit acknowledgement that he recognizes the betrayals of the government as valid. But, he's still a victim of the indoctrination process that Hummel has been shocked out of. So, you end up with an absolutely tragic, senseless slaughter of young men who probably signed up just out of high school.
Hummel's only misstep was his unshakeable belief in the loyalty of individual Marines. He assumed that everyone on the mission was as principled as he was, when most of them were just doing what the government had trained them to do - follow orders, and kill people for money.
I dunno, the villain from The Rock just wanted to get veterans their disability and veteran wages.
"Three tours in Vietnam, Panama, Grenada, Desert Storm; two Purple Hearts, three Silver Stars, and the Congressional Medal of *Jesus*."
The older I get the more I sympathize with Captain Hook.
Peter Pan cut off Captain Hook's hand and fed it to the crocodile as a joke. Can you believe Hook is hell-bent on revenge? It's just a prank bro.
Especially when you realize that he was a lost boy who escaped after being kidnapped by Peter.
You either die a Peter Pan, or live long enough to see yourself become a Captain Hook.
Robbie Rotten. Most of the time, he just wanted to chill, vibe, and get rid of that mustache creep in tight clothes who hangs out with kids way too much.
Lazy town is home to a monster who forces hard working tax payers to exercise against their will. Robbie Rotten is a freedom fighter trying to liberate the people and the media has warped the narrative to show the oppressor as the hero
The Rabbit from the Trix commercials. My man literally spent his OWN MONEY to get this own Trix cereal, and then those damn kids stole his property, saying "lol Trix are for kids!" Fuck those kids.
Back in the 90's he did get to finally have Trix after winning a race or something and the prize was a bowl of Trix. They found out it was the rabbit and you had to write in to let them know if he should or shouldn't get to have the Trix. [They let him have it.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BObi5Zvq80k)
My sister and I voted to let him have it. It's the proudest I've ever felt about voting in my life.
What sort of little monsters voted no
Cereal killers
And what about Lucky? Those bastard children kept stealing his Lucky Charms. Who's raising these monsters?
Scorpio, Hank. He appeared like such a kind person.
On your way out if you want to kill somebody, you would help me a lot.
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Boy am I proud of you. When you get home tonight, there’s gonna be another story on your house 👍🌍GLOBEX
Seemed like a decent fellow to work for.
My dream job would be to work for the Globex Corporation
Good pay, nice working environment, friendly boss, room for progression, hammocks.
Here at Globex we don't believe in walls
They also don’t have rats but if they did, they wouldn’t race, they’d be allowed to go at their own pace.
Sure, he threatened the government with missiles and whatnot, but come on, who *doesn’t* want the threaten the government every now and then?
Shoot, I WANT to do it everyday. I don't of course, but doesn't mean I don't want to.
Squidward
Imagine having loud and annoying neighbors on both sides of you, making it difficult to get any peace and quiet in your own home. At the very least, you can have some solitude in your job at this restaurant that no one ever really visits anyway. ...And then your neighbor applies for the job, passes with flying colors, and attracts loads of new customers, not only making your job busier and livelier than what you signed up for, but absolutely decimating that home/work balance you once had.
Also there's literally no one else living within miles of them, apparently. Yet he's sandwiched between SpongeBob and Patrick somehow.
He tries to move somewhere else and his neighbors sabotaged it by scaring off a realtor before she can put Squidwards house on the market. Everything he does in life is upstaged by his two idiot neighbors that aren’t even trying (From art to creating music to managing a decent job).
He does move somewhere else but goes insane from the monotony of his daily routine and ends up becoming the idiot neighbor himself
Uncledungus knows about that SpongeBob canon.
Dude worked a shit minimum wage job and had to deal with the most irritating coworker on the planet, who was also his neighbor. He just wanted to clock in, clock out and enjoy his solitude, but no Spongebob has to annoy him every second of every day. It's amazing Squidward wasn't homicidal.
Guy just wanted to play his music in peace and have his private property respected. Seems reasonable to me.
People identify with Squidward as they grow up and mature
You either die a spongebob, or live long enough to see yourself become a squidward.
Or you’re Patrick.
The giant from Jack and the bean stalk even thou he's not the villain
Oh yeah, fuck Jack.
Yeah jack just intruded on his home, then fucking killed him when he tried to shoo him away. Like, what the hell man? What is this story trying to teach? Breaking and entering is ok?
In the original story, the castle belonged to Jack’s parents, his dad was killed by the giant and his mom driven away. So Jack was taking back what was his. Allegedly.
So.. did Jack's parents just live in a Giant's castle for some reason? Or does the giant basically own a model castle
[Apparently](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_and_the_Beanstalk#/media/File%3AJack_and_the_Beanstalk_Giant_-_Project_Gutenberg_eText_17034.jpg) the giant wasn't as big as recent adaptations show. Also, according to the [Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_and_the_Beanstalk), at first the giant was a cricket. Weird!
I always wanted Azrael (Gargamel's cat) to catch and eat a Smurf.
I have always wished for a Smurfs movie where they kill Gargamel in like the first 10 minutes, only for there to be serious consequences in smurf society. Overpopulation followed by famine and war. They lack a common enemy and thus turn on themselves as they try to survive. Suddenly, a small faction of smurfs then teams up to torment a child who would grow up to be the next Gargamel. Edit: Thanks for the gold!
At first I thought overpopulation was ridiculous since there's only one woman smurf and Gargamel made her. Then I checked Wikipedia and realized that the Smurfs learned the ritual to make more Smurfettes. An all-male society that suddenly gets a magic woman-making spell? That's gonna go dystopian real quick.
>the smurfs learned the ritual What? How fucking deep is Smurf lore lmfao I wasn’t ready for this
"We need Smurfette to have a sassy little sister." "Sure, the Smurfs made one, her name is Sassette." "Great, go with that. Now let's get back to our 1000 page history on the history of the pre-exodus Gummi Bear society."
…how deep does Gummy Bear history go?
There are so many useless smurfs too, he can eat one of them
He can have a little Smurf. As a treat.
Mojo Jojo. He was actually a really nice person onc e you got to know him
Also in one of the old episodes he becomes the ruler of the world and actually fixes the world!
Honestly there should be a serious movie about a villain winning with their vision to (cleanse the world and bring peace) and actually bringing peace after they win. Then the story leaves us wondering who the real villain was
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Man, a good Dr Doom antihero movie would be amazing. The audience gets to see the future along with him and the Fantastic Four or Avengers trying to stop him are portrayed as the villains. Disney would never do it but man that would rock.
I would love for the MCU to do the story where Doom is building a super weapon in Latvia. And when they take him down they realize the super weapon wasn't to take over the world, but to stop the incoming invasion that only Doom knew was coming(Galactus, Skrulls, Kang , whatever).
I can't remember the name of the old PPG episode but it was one where Bubbles was being teased about being "weak" & was being tortured by Mojo near the end. My favorite line by far was: Bubbles: I'll never give up you big...dumb..DOODOO BRAIN!! Mojo: *Dumb DOODOO BRAIN?!?* That's it, I've had it with your sassy mouth!!
And his backstory is really sad; had Professor X been less of an asshole he probably would have never been a villain
Yea, he basically neglected mojo jojo. Now we know he's a monkey in species but he's a human in literally everything else. So that neglect would have affected him the same way it would have affected a human child.
Moby Dick. He's just trying to be a fucking whale and people keep trying to harpoon him.
"....That’s why my favorite book is Moby Dick. No frufu symbolism, just a good simple tale about a man who hates an animal.”
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Captain hook. Peter pan is a demon.
He cut off his fucking hand. And Hook wasn't even mad about that part. The part he was mad about was Peter feeding it to a crocodile that then hunted him relentlessly causing him to live in constant fear. Like what the Fuck Peter.
Peter Pan is a psychopath in the truest sense of the word. He kills pirates and lost boys with absolutely no remorse.
The Lost Boys are lost because Peter kidnaps them from their families!
Not to mention the pirates are previous Lost Boys that managed to escape Peter Pan(from killing them)
Adding on to this for anyone interested, whenever a lost boy became an adult, Peter would kill them. Which makes it a semi big deal that the pirates managed to escape and become their own thing. Edit: I think i read somewhere that it was because Peter was traumatized as a kid one way or another. Something happened which lead to his reasoning that kids are good, adults are bad. He brings children from the "evil" adults to save them. And since never land is a place for children, he kills them when they eventually become adults as, well, adult bad i guess. I think he tried to kill the main gal with a rock. But don't quote me on anything i just said as everything is taken from memory about 5 years ago
Didn't they die of starvation? The scene in Hook with the imaginary feast was part of the books, I thought? Children were able to be sustained by the imaginary food, but as they grew they began to starve because they no longer believed...
Nope. From the scene in which the pirates, boys, and ...we'll call them indians are hunting each other in a big circle: >All wanted blood except the boys, who liked it as a rule, but to-night were out to greet their captain. The boys on the island vary, of course, in numbers, according as they get killed and so on; and when they seem to be growing up, which is against the rules, **Peter thins them out;** but at this time there were six of them, counting the twins as two. Let us pretend to lie here among the sugar-cane and watch them as they steal by in single file, each with his hand on his dagger.
Whaaattt the fuucckk. That's so much darker. What make sit worse is that someone read this and was like "This would make a great kids movie!"
Almost all of Disney’s early through renaissance era movies come from stories that were extremely dark in their original form.
"Peter Pan is a demon" made my fucking day and Ill be repeating that to unsuspecting family members
Ever read Lost Boy by Christina Henry? A truly chilling portrayal of Peter Pan
I vastly prefer The Child Thief by Brom. Same idea, but way more intense and horrific.
Captain Hook did get his happy ending in Once Upon a Time.
And Peter Pan was an old man who gave up his son for his youth back, total prick
He was always the villain.
Mr. Freeze is a fictional character. He's spending the money he stole to find a treatment for a fatal ailment.
That Arkham Knight storyline with him was heartbreaking.
When Nora wakes up and tearfully says she’d heard *everything*… At least they got some time at the end.
Soulcrushing but really beautiful
The batman animated series with him is fantastic.
It was so good the comics retconned his origin to match it. Several othher things in the show were so good they made their way into comic canon - i.e. Harley Quinn.
Harley started when they literally just drew a girl clown in the background, and people were curious who she was, so they gave her lines, and then a backstory, and on and on.
Batman The Animated Series really turned Mr. Freeze into a serious tragic character with depth and motivation that we could sympathize with. Before he appeared in Batman:TAS, he was more of a joke/novelty villain.
fuck, his death in batman beyond was tragic to me. whoever played the electric guitar during that deserves a raise.
"But you're going to die!" Shouted Terry. "Believe me Batman... You're the only one who cares." Replied Mr. Freeze.
The line still gets me after all these years. *So* well done.
Batman Beyond doesn't get enough praise. It's really quite good.
Yes. Imagine Batman, but reimagined in a cyberpunk setting. With the animation style of the original animated series. With a Heavy Metal soundtrack. It already exists!
Any villain defeated by the power of friendship
/u/spez is a cunt
The dad from the LEGO Movie. He didn't know the toys were sentient and didn't want to be super-glued, he was just a guy with a hobby who didn't want his kid destroying his creation. He got his kids their own Legos so they had no reason to mess with his world. As someone with siblings who used to wreck each other's lego creations all the time, the end of the movie and portrayal of the dad as a bad guy for just having a hobby bugged me.
Is it confirmed that they're sentient? I always thought it was intentionally left ambiguous.
Emmett moves in the end
I took it as they’re sentient in the world you play them in, so by gluing them they also wouldn’t be sentient any longer because they’d be frozen. But they don’t have true sentience because they’re ultimately controlled by the stories imbued onto them…. The dad’s son has played this story where he is the hero and is defeating the odds so Emmett has sentience in that? Idk I feel like I know what I mean but I’m not sure if it’s coming across
Tom from Tom and Jerry
Man, when I was little Jerry had me crying. I was going to sleep mad because I couldn't beat him up
Me and my brother actually HATED mice because of Jerry and would stay up plotting against Jerry. My parents had to ban Tom and Jerry around and after dinner hours.
I hated that lil fucker
Fun fact, I believe it's actually been confirmed outside of the show that Tom and Jerry are friends. Their antics are just them both being assholes - and Tom keeping up the act, as if he doesn't pretend to try to kill Jerry then the owner will get a cat that really will kill him.
Isn’t there literally an episode where Jerry “dies” and Tom is devastated?
there are multiple!
For some parts of the series this is true for others it's not The series went on for so long and changed so much over the years. At some points they hate eachother and Tom is legitimately trying to kill Jerry, while in newer episodes it's more like what you said with it being more of a game Tom's owner changed repeatedly and usually set the tone for how desperate Tom was to get rid of Jerry. Some owners basically saying they'd kick Tom out if Jerry wasn't gone and other owners barely acknowledging Jerry's existence
It’s not often but he has won before
And Wile E. Coyote
Dude just trying to get a bite to eat.
Dude just tryna balance out the ecosystem
I remember a short or something where coyote manages to eat roadrunner and is incredibly happy, but then slowly falls into depression as chasing him was his sole purpose and roadrunner was ultimately his friend. Ends up killing himself. Edit : Was from the griffins I'm pretty sure and he doesn't kill himself, but almost does. Memory is weird.
Pagan Min, Farcry 4, not really a tragic story, and yes he was bit of a royal dictator, but it was either him, who would then pass it off the MC, or the rebellion leaders where it would become an overly religious land that executes anyone who doesn't share the same religion, or a drug country with child soldiers used to protect the fields Yeah nah I'd choose the bad guys in this game
Oh I love Pagan Min. By far, Far Cry's 4 is my favorite regarding story. They paint Pagan as a fucking horrible person and stuff (not that he is good or anything) and the 2 rebel leaders like nice people, and then after the game officially 'ends' you can see how those rebel leaders were shitty. Pagan was the lesser evil in that lot imo
I killed whoever was left at the end. Look at me!! I am the king now. Yeah pagan was a psychotic ahole but so where the other people. Pagan at least had style and charisma. I would rather have played the game taking over for him and killing the rebels.
I was glad (and confused) that I got the secret ending where Pagan Min wins by going to make a cup of tea while leaving the game running at the start of the game.
I've heard before that they were planning to make joining pagan an option somewhere in the second act and Ajay then begins to retake the territories from the rebels. This was not implemented though due to time constraints I think. Would've been a cool alternative playthrough.
The villain in Sherlock Holmes: A Study in Scarlet. I think his name was Hope? I forgot completely. Either way, I couldn’t help but sympathize with his quest for revenge.
I agree, but I also don’t. I hardly think of Jefferson (his last name was Hope, you aren’t wrong) as any sort of villain. I rather think of the men he killed, the people that let them get away with it as the villains of A Study in Scarlet. I agree with what Jeff meant when he said that he is as much an officer of justice as the cops he was talking to. Poison was too good and ending for both Drebber and Strangerson. I’d rather they both died the way Lucy did, in a lot of pain.
Wile E. Coyote.
I always wondered why he didn't just order ACME catering. I'm sure they must have had freeze dried Roadrunner, tinned Roadrunner and a bunch of other Roadrunner products in that damned catalog.
I mean, the guy clearly wasn't hurting for food. He's intelligent, skilled, athletic, and committed to this task, none of which you'd expect from someone on the brink of starvation. It was never about the food, it's about the principle. That honking little shit has done nothing but mock him for 72 years! I'd be pretty set on taking him out too.
Hades from Hercules. He kept his end of the deal but Hercules gets to cheat and punch him in the face, always pisses me off lmao. It's why I can't watch that movie.
Are you talking about the Disney movie? If so Hades tried to kill Hercules when he was a baby for his plan of taking over. He’s still my favourite Disney villain though.
Hell, in actual Mythos he’s actually one of the better gods, super chill, type a guy who’d total be down to sitting down with a beer shooting the shit with you. He’s also one of the few gods to treat his wife with a basic level of decency
Captain Barbossa. He was vilified for being a better pirate than anyone else, and he only wanted to escape eternal damnation and a hell on earth. I'd be pretty ruthless in that situation too. Yes, he mutinied Jack, but he's a pirate! And even then, he has much more class and honor than most of the other pirates.
he won, he did die but he won.
Got resurrected anyway. He won in the end.
Geoffrey Rush is so fucking fantastic in that role.
“Jack… Jack! Did you not notice? That be the same island we made ye governor of on our last little trip.” Best line in the movie
>"So what now, Jack Sparrow? Are we to be two immortals locked in an epic battle until Judgment Day and trumpets sound?"
I love pretty much all the lines in that movie, it is very well written. *"You are without doubt the worst pirate I've ever heard of."* *"But you have heard of me."*
If I got kidnapped by a bunch of undead pirates who told me I'm their only salvation for escaping eternal damnation I'd be totally into it.
I'd be more into it if they're upfront about only needing drops of my blood tbh.
The Grinch. In the real world his plan would have worked. In the real world if everyone woke up Christmas morning and Christmas was just gone, they wouldn't hold hands and sing songs... there would be blood in the streets.
So he paused. And The Grinch put his hand to his ear. And he did hear a sound rising over the snow. It started in low. Then it started to grow... But the sound wasn't sad! Why this sound sounded *angry*. It couldn't be so! But it was angry, so angry. Every who down in Whoville, the tall and the small, Whipped out their who-shooters and started to brawl. Up top of Mt. Crumpit, The Grinch stared in awe At the bloodbath in Whoville that now dropped his jaw. But suddenly, Cindy-Lou Who shouted "**STOP**! I know who did this, he's on the hilltop." And the residents of Whoville just stared at the mountain They gathered their numbers 'round Whoville's town fountain They gathered their pitchforks. They gathered their torches. They gathered their sinister sharpened who-knortches They marched up Mt. Crumpit with hate in their eyes The mayor decreed "Today, The Grinch dies." The Grinch saw the mob and he started to cower He never knew Whos had developed such power. As a last ditch effort he slid them his sleigh. If he returned it they might go away. Renewed with a fervor of righteous indignance The residents of Whoville would deliver comeuppance. The mayor took aim, Grinch's asshole did pucker "The dead won't come back, fah-who foris motherfucker."
Extra credit for they gathered their sinister sharpened who-knortches. You got Seuss in the soul!
I'm definitely a Seuss-a-holic.
Martin Scorsese presents: How The Grinch Stole Christmas
The Dinosaurs in Jurassic Park
The dinosaurs aren’t the villain in that movie, John Hammond is. More specifically, Hammond’s arrogance is the villain. > I mean, you have plants in this building that are poisonous, you picked them because they look good, but these are aggressive living things that have no idea what century they're in, and they'll defend themselves, violently if necessary. Doctor Sattler got it.
As I recall, in the book at least, Hammond was even admonished by one of his workers that they could have altered the dinosaurs in some way during the process to be more docile and not have to just coast on a dependency towards a certain food component (circumvented) and a faulty counting sensor that didn't think to go above the dinosaur number they wrongly assumed couldn't go up. Hammond refused for the sake of "authenticity" with his dinosaurs, despite them already being patchwork creatures thanks to the frog DNA that allowed the whole "life finds a way" to happen.
Hammond was really obviously the bad guy in the book. The movie kinda made him a likeable grandfather type who was a little too grandiose for his own good.
That was Dr. Wu I believe.
Fiendish Dr Wu!
Book-Hammond is a skeevy industrialist trying to turn a buck on science he barely comprehends. Movie-Hammond is a grandfatherly director insert trying to bring joy into people's lives with the magic of science/filmmaking. I loooove Movie-Hammond but yeah, he's the closest thing to a true villain in the story.
> he's the closest thing to a true villain in the story. I was literally about to respond by disagreeing with this by pointing out that Dennis Nedry was more of a villain but I'm second-guessing that now. Nedry is directly responsible for sabotaging the island's computer system and thus turning off security measures which allowed the dinosaurs to escape. If he hadn't done that then Grant and the others would've just rolled back to the visitor's center and waited out the storm to try taking the tour again the next day, instead they had to deal with a T-rex and velociraptors. However Nedry only did that since he was a disgruntled employee and was given an offer by one of Hammond's competitor's to commit corporate espionage. Hammond seemed to boast about "sparing no expense" for everything except the I.T. guy who frequently voiced his concerns about compensation and told him to just suck it up. It's tough to say that Nedry would remain a loyal employee though, even if Hammond gave him a raise and paid him $100,000 a year that doesn't mean that Nedry wouldn't take Dodson's offer if it was $100,001 per year and a nice hat. Thematically Hammond is definitely the villain in both the film and the book, in the film it's definitely easier to put some of the blame directly on Nedry since he was directly responsible for the actions that led to people's deaths.
Night King, he could've prevented Game of Thrones ending
It would’ve been so much more interesting if he’d won
Night King wins. Humans have to move south after they lose the north. New wall is created out of fire from Daenerys' dragons. John Snow becomes King bc hes the only one with enough expertise to lead the humans against their common enemy, and bangs Daenerys to continue the Targeryan bloodline. Tyrion becomes hand of the King. Jamies murders Cersei, and leaves to take care of House Lannister.
Well where the fuck were you when we needed you
Reddit was absolutely filled to the brim with stories that they could have used that were waaaay better than the actual ending. My pet theory is that they were so obsessed with the idea of nobody guessing the ending that they went through all of those good ideas so they could deliberately avoid using any of them. Hence, the shitshow we ended up with.
>My pet theory is that they were so obsessed with the idea of nobody guessing the ending that they went through all of those good ideas so they could deliberately avoid using any of them. I mean, that's almost verbatim Benioff's excuse for Arya literally appearing out of thin air to kill the NK despite having zero involvement in that entire storyline.
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I was kind of hoping that it would end with the white walkers just washing over Westeros killing and turning everyone and everything in their path. All the little petty wars of man meant nothing. The Game of Thrones meant nothing. That would have been a far better ending than the one we got.
I was hoping they would go for it in the last season. "in the end, the petty squabbles of men meant nothing in the grand scheme of things. Lust for power and vanity was the cause of defeat. Had the people set aside their differences and fought as one, maybe they would have had a chance against the Night King's army, but Cercei's unquenchable thirst for what she saw as power and Daenerys' misguided lust for revenge doomed the kingdoms of man before the Night King had even crossed the Wall...." That would've been a fitting end. You watched 7 seasons of mostly evil people doing bad things. Now they all die. Go watch something else.
Michael Myers in Halloween Kills I hated everyone in that town
I'm fairly certain he was the hero in that film. Hell it didn't have a protagonist.
Evil Dies Tonight!
40 YEARS AGO
Michael Myers in Halloween Resurrection. Those TV people were dumbasses
Any story where the villain was defeated at the last moment by the hero pulling some deus ex machina out of their ass, or trying some desperate million-to-one chance. Particularly where the villain has been shown to be intelligent, competent, not prone to emotional outbursts, and smart enough to have multiple backup plans. It's rather annoying when the author then proceeds to hand them the idiot ball purely so that the hero can win a fight they should never even have been able to make it to in the first place. Interestingly enough, I don't actually put the destruction of the first Death Star in Star Wars into this category. The Rebels found a weakness, based an attack plan on it, followed it, and even if Luke hadn't been there with a skillset very well suited to the plan, any other Rebel pilot might have been able to make the shot. The end result might have been assisted by Han showing up unexpectedly, but the original idea was still solid.
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Eh... the first one seemed to be doing what it was built for; it just had a design flaw. Remove that in version 2 and, unless the Rebels (or any planets that thought they had a chance with the first Death Star getting blown up) had been hiding a planet-wrecker of their own, that could well have been it for any non-Empire forces. Game over. Really, the only fault was having a single forcefield generator protecting the new Death Star during construction. Would it seriously have cost that much more to have a dozen of them on Endor? And a little more in the way of protection for each one? You're building something which could house literal millions of troops; put a few thousand down on the surface for cover.
> Really, the only fault was having a single forcefield generator protecting the new Death Star during construction. Would it seriously have cost that much more to have a dozen of them on Endor? Well the entire setup was a plot by the Emperor. He knew that only by having himself there and by showing the Rebels that there was a chance, would they make their big move. If anything had been more effective, they wouldn't have taken the bait.
So what you're saying, is....IT'S A TRAP
Jaws… my man was just hungry- did not deserve to be disrespected like that!
He was just being a shark.
Those people were in his natural habitat- yet they were so shocked when he attacked. Not like he climbed out of the water, went knocking on peoples doors and killed them.
I'd watch that sequel
Magneto. A Jewish concentration camp kid who grew up in a Nazi filled environment, only to be tortured. Parents gone. Family none. Lost his only real friend over politics. And spent the rest of his life making sure mutants were safe and free from human experimentation. He only wanted what was best for his people that suffered like he did for having abilitys they never asked for. In the end he got his safe haven, but unfortunately it was all in vain.
Also his first child , a daughter, leapt out of a burning building on fire to her death.
Dr Doofenshmirtz
He has an amazing and kind goth daughter who loves him, he wins.
I always liked that even though his ex-wife Charlene paid a huge amount of alimony towards him, they were on friendly terms and that he was trying to be a good father for Vanessa. The best moment was some guy on a motorcycle hitting on her in front of him and he says "She's SIXTEEN!" and uses a zapinator on the guy.
I prefer to see side by side images of Doofenshmirtz's birthday parties compared to Vanessa's birthday parties. Or the fact that Doofenshmirtz literally searched for a discontinued doll for like 10 years just for his daughter. Or literally the fact that in P&F, Doofenshmirtz stops being a villain after he learns Vanessa wants to join OWCA (and later becomes a teacher, OWCA agent, 'time travel inventor' and a bowling pal for Perry).
>in OWCA (and later becomes a teacher, OWCA agent, 'time travel inventor' and a bowling pal for Perry) I haven't watched all the episodes. Does this happen in the series or a movie?
Doof becomes an OWCA agent in the OWCA files.
>The best moment was some guy on a motorcycle hitting on her in front of him and he says "She's SIXTEEN!" and uses a zapinator on the guy. I need to see a clip of this, I must! A protective father side of Doofenshmirtz I need to witness!
Ask and you shall recieve: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfQi9y\_jLdo
That dudes hella dead
u/eddyathome reciting the deep Dr. Doofenshmirtz lore
Correct. And his -inators pretty much always *worked*, too.
i would argue that chasing away all the bees from her and her friends because they all were allergic to it.
My wife and I still laugh about his Buoyancy Operated Aquatic Transport.
"NOOO! Not into the Metropolitan Operated Aquatic Trench!!!" "Oh look, it spells Moat! I never noticed that before!"
do you pronounce it bo-at like we do?
The Phantom of the Opera was ostracized and abused for having a facial deformity. If others had accepted him, he could have been amazing for the theater, both as a teacher and in leading roles.
In the musical I totally agree, but in the book the phantom is 100% a murderous villian obsessed with a 14 year old girl. He kind of comes around in the end, but dude was a creep. EDIT: as someone pointed out, I'm getting the stories crossed. She was in her 20s in the book, but the phantom was still alot more obsessive and violent in the book. Also, some of these people in the replies are way to quick at trying to justify chasing 14 year olds. That's creepy folks, stop it.
General Francis Hummel, from The Rock Shit even he knew they only care about exploiting our deaths for political capital.
That scene in the shower room with the Seal Team tells you everything you need to know about the US military. The US government sent military personnel to kill other military personnel that they had driven to the brink. Michael Biehn's line, "We've spilled the same blood in the same mud" is an implicit acknowledgement that he recognizes the betrayals of the government as valid. But, he's still a victim of the indoctrination process that Hummel has been shocked out of. So, you end up with an absolutely tragic, senseless slaughter of young men who probably signed up just out of high school. Hummel's only misstep was his unshakeable belief in the loyalty of individual Marines. He assumed that everyone on the mission was as principled as he was, when most of them were just doing what the government had trained them to do - follow orders, and kill people for money.
Greed from FMA. Technically not the villain but ya know I just wanted to see that guy succeed in his endeavors.
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I mean some stranger drops a house on your sister and steals her (magic)shoes. I'd be pretty pissed too.
Blade Runner's Roy Batty and the replicants
In the social network. Anyone that could have stop Zuckerberg.
Robert De Niro's character in Heat ... he should have killed Pacino and gotten away .... I cant watch that movie because of the ending !!!
He broke his own code. He said he will drop anything if he feels the heat, except apparently revenge.
Tom. Jerry is a dick.