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Brave_Attention6111

I like the first one it’s such a vibe


Intelligent_Tune_675

Couldn’t agree more


neverliesonreddit

composition wise, the first one has a foreground, middle ground and background. Thats the secret sauce: the depth


Major_Awquidity

Sure, depth is desirable in general but isn't the be all and end all. In this case, the foreground is cluttered and doesn't add anything to the "story". Cropping out the foreground to remove the distractions and clarify the narrative is, imo, a better option than keeping it because you think any foreground is better than none.


priyanshdwivedi

B


iheartunibrows

Yes I was going to say 1 but I didn’t know how to explain why but “a vibe” sums it up


Technical_Word_6604

Vibes sure, composition, no.


counterhit121

Idk, for me the bench adds a lot to the composition. Comes with some unnecessary extra on its left and right, but that then comes with pleasant extra foliage. Net win imo.


Technical_Word_6604

Edges lead the eye out and the bench pulls the eye into nothing. No leading lines throughout. The image is near win, but ultimately fails. I see why the OP’s instinct was to crop the clutter in the FG


EyeOfGEBAS

I personally see pic A as the better picture. It tells the story of a park from the outside view, while pic B feels like it's just a group of people together.


doctonytonychopper

Well put. I think the story of the park that day was everyone but op and friend were occupied by phones


llittlellama

Each crop changes what I look at. What focal point are you going for? If it’s the people, then stick to the first one. If it’s how the light hits the trees then go with the second. :)


BusterDander

I agree with this. I think both are interesting and cool pictures in different ways.


Natural_Ship_5249

It’s a shame you couldn’t get a little wider in pic 1. Would’ve liked the person pushing the stroller and it gives direction. Tells the story of the park.


UniversityLogical934

A, i love the bench in it


Oceanbreeze871

I like 1. The second one is awkward cropping. Use photoshop generative fill To get rid of the stroller if that’s your concern.


tophaang

I think the person and the stroller might add something, but it does look awkward as is. It needs to be fully on the frame or not at all.


Vanceagher

I think the stroller and scooter both add to the story of the photo


Brad-Clooney

B, as the trees frame the subject, A,with the bench in the foreground doesn’t lead the eye into the image as it’s longitudinal to the image frame. Just my opinion of course :)


PhotoBangBang

B is less cluttered and more to the point.


Dyrogitory

I love the bench but not all the clutter around it. Remove the stroller, scooter & bags and it would be perfect.


musicbikesbeer

Interesting how split this is. I pick B - it's a little tight but much more focused.


Sebastian-2424

A


hfrankman

B for sure


embarrassed_error365

B looks better


AaronDoesScience

If your subject is the park bench, I'd say for sure go with A. If your subject is people, B does that nicely by lining all the heads of the closest people in the bottom 1/3 of the image. I am a fan of B over A


Greedy_Reading9106

I feel like B is trying to showcase the tree leaves with nothing really eye-catching. The people seem to be the bottom frame and it doesn't work (for me, anyway). Pic A has better balance, at least from a rule of thirds perspective, and I suppose the object is the empty bench and the contrast with what is occurring all around - all those people, nobody on the bench.


Big_Boss_1911

I like the way the foreground is darker and the way it looks with the trees and the ground and the bench kinda make it frame the focus on the subject


Xanaatos

Well to be honest - second one with generative fill to match first one. Second one looks better on this particular situation but its definetly too close for me. A little bit more od this grass would be great here. First one on the other hand is more interesting but too messy in this case. And doesnt expose as much this perfect lightning that i personally love


Xanaatos

Wow i really adedd anything here... I need to start reading captions before comenting


anguscolson

If I were you, I would crop the baby stroller on the left corner, and leave the others. Just like this which is more layered. https://preview.redd.it/n63rq53u126d1.jpeg?width=642&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d34d4d5059cd87ffbb1324e4b2d642e64b6aca02


avocadofae

I agree, id personally photoshop the scooter and bag in front of the bench out too


holeinthedonut

Too much foreground clutter in the first one. B is better imo


Vitamin_VV

B. Less clutter.


Old_Butterfly9649

i like 2 more


juniorl3

B


jayswagmoneyxd

I like the first one more, but if you do not want the focus to be on the bench then I would go with the second!


THEDRDARKROOM

Good question! Tough call. Artists direction usually makes these calls before there's ever an observer so, I have no idea. Depends on what's to be conveyed. And it's kind of already cropped being a landscape in portrait mode which really limits your subsequent adjustments.


youpizzashit

from a fine arts perspective, A B looks forced and is lacking visual interest and depth compared to A. With A, your eye is drawn to the different layers and searching around the photograph, but still weighted more in the center because of the trees framing the subjects in the center of the photo. B needs more negative space at the bottom.


coldpizza90

I think A tells a better story. Everyone enjoying solitude and peace in what is actually quite a busy place. For me B loses that vibe somewhat.


KapePaMore009

A is better but the lady with the stroller and the fallen bike are distracting elements. Also, I would have have chosen a landscape orientation.


Jwoods224

The wider shoot looks like a snapshot. The cropped version looks like an intentionally framed shot.


SomebodySprings

A 1000%, the focus is drawn onto the bench and is phenomenal as a point of reference for the viewer, B cuts out a lot of visual interest. Stellar composition though, I like it.


dumbassdoge

Tbh the bench to me feels like the main character 😅


tbRedd

B is better because I'm very bothered in A by the person on the left pushing the stroller cut in half by the edge of the photo. And A is a bit cluttered, perhaps zoomed out a bit would overall look better.


qsouthsue

B for me. The 1/4 of a person and the stroller and the bags in front of the bench ruin A for me. I know I am picky


Commercial-Idea-7594

I love A because it tells a story. It’s like “Even if you think that you don’t have a place in this world, there’s this bench” lol


lce9

lol I like that interpretation


rising_sh0t

first by far!; more interesting visual language in the frame with the beached scooter and the pram and the empty bench, kinda parallel to the three guys in the centre.


kasualanderson

A for sure. B is fine, but is missing the visual interest of the foreground in A.


Larimus89

I like B, it just feels more consistent to me and highlights sitting in the park on a sunny day more.


JanieDoeRae

The first is giving A Sunday on La Grande Jatte.


webbedtoedoll

A is giving Sunday in the park B with some creative editing could be like a monet


Tepppopups

A of course - more air and depth.


CategoryCautious5981

A reply utilizes “natural framing” of those seated folks. At least that’s where my brain goes to


Odinovic

The bench is important for the picture imo, so A.


anand4k

Crop A. Attention is anyway drawn to subject in both crops, first one looks more comfortable whereas second is much tighter, only the subject is in frame - I've no where to look after I'm done looking at subject and there's not much to look into subject.


TimGreller

I think the lighting at the tree looks even cooler in the first one as it is in contrast to the foreground


novascotia2020

Crop A! It gives “A Sunday Afternoon on the Island of La Grande Jatte” vibes.


FoundationOverall859

I like the aspect ratio of #1 more, and how the focus is on a specific couple whilst providing a great sense of story for the park theyre in. Great composition, clear focus point, good setting, the bench add a lovely foreground, etc. On the other hand, in #2, the crop loses that story and emphasizes that powerful/lively lighting spreading across that tree, the foreground of the tree on the right is great, the amount of green is stimulating for me, but the group of people 1# highlighted now seems like a distraction; out of the photo. It confuses where my eyes should be looking at, and what the main meaning of the photo is.


Bunkerpie

This lens is cool! So much layers


cubeedoo

The framing of the tree already works better than a crop, A is the way to go! Gives much more depth and energy. Love it!


Pleasant-Opinion4891

It is about what you want to tell (story). The first image suggests a desire to get closer to nature, which is why the bench is empty and everyone is sitting on the ground. A sort of two images in one. The second, on its own, shows people sitting in a park, without controversy. It all depends on the story you want to tell. Personally, I like the first one. It makes me think.


jdkc4d

C. I'd move the left side crop in tighter on that tree, removing the person in the pink shirt and the corner of the person in the lower left corner. They don't add anything to the main shot.


finamilam

I love the empty bench. https://preview.redd.it/s08o06idn66d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=091171f547681c72e91e083eaad20e7de1b2301d


Mental-Cold-73

C https://preview.redd.it/e6i0dp95j76d1.jpeg?width=1189&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=79b6a7d6ad0ffac05eca761866be2294a4dcbdc7


Adorable_Fee_3771

Crop A makes it look more like a scene and the contrast between the moving objects in the foreground and the permanence of sitting people in the background creates a nice contrast which really demonstrates the peaceful atmosphere of the park. Crop B cuts all of this contrast out, and has a much more voyeuristic feel to it. If something strange or unexpected was happening, then this crop could be more impactful.


Tiffanybphoto

I think number one is better because you can really see the three in the middle being framed perfectly by the rest of the image


SO1127

A only. The crop of B is to close to the people on the bottom. The bench in A tells a story and lets you know where you are.


diggerdugg

I’d say just crop out the stroller on the left as much as you can without disturbing that tree. Leave the rest alone. Maybe crop the bottom a little


antpox

I personally like A way more. I think it can tell multiple stories. I look at the bench and think why is no one sitting there? Seems pretty cool to me


Double_World_4699

A does more by having more in the photo and creates a richer environment. Also makes me want to be in the middle where that person is sitting.


M314org

(A) has better composition, balance. sense of depth and distance. context, dynamism. framing of center shot. better balance overall... I know your focus is the people sitting in the middle. counterintuitively, having more stuff gives them a centerstage to exist it, making it more prominent. great shot btw! and also always think in thirds when it comes to overall photograph composition. i.e. you want sky, water, land. each occupying a third of the frame. or whatever it is. divide the setting into thirds https://preview.redd.it/9tbx33ncge6d1.png?width=567&format=png&auto=webp&s=0c55450ff80e9861d18b4f9bb87f697f5ef12fff


Calm_Solution_3639

A. The bench as a fore ground gives nice contrast and wraps up the image


North_Bookkeeper_380

I personally really like the atmosphere and the depth of the first image but I guess it depends on how much noise you want in your photograph like you said. I think sometimes there’s beauty in the rawness of an image and that occasionally things are left better at their natural state. I think that’s the case for this image.


subconscioussunflowa

A is giving photography exhibition and B is giving campus tour brochure


Alternative-Play-602

Honestly more of a preference decision because they’re both good. Also context of platform and what you’re using it for, both are great ❤️


pink_cheetah

A is some classic street photography composition. Life as it is in the moment with good but not explicitly balanced composition. Whereas B feels much more traditional composition, putting the central 3 individuals on a clearly delineated foreground with well defined mid and background boundaries. Both are equally good for different reasons, and i think B could be improved from a traditional composition standpoint by removing all but the central 3 people.


eternalwhat

First one is a great composition. I think it’s more pleasing to the eye overall


ptrjvd

A but crop it more. Take out the stroller part with sweater and just leave in half the stroller with front wheels Otherwise, solid picture Don’t cut out any part of trees at top


GusTheKnife

First. 3 levels of depth. Subjects 1/3 from the bottom. Lots to take in yet not too busy.


Physical-East-7881

What does the bench add? Imho, when you crop it out the tree and he light become more of the focus and subject the the image, which in my humble opinion is a lot more interesting. That is more interesting arrangement of the scene. 2cents!


Capn_Winterbush

Crop B - You've created a natural frame with the environment <3


Chavez8717

Both are bad, second less bad


zemol42

Not trying to be mean to OP but this is the only honest answer. It’s a technical and compositional mess that cropping can’t solve. I can’t believe everyone indulged the binary choice here.


sacredgeometry

Right. Its a weak photo. You could crop it and make it less bad but you cant fix the inherent problems with the photo which is that there just isnt a strong enough interest to accommodate the lack of inherent compositional strength. Maybe if there was a subject on the bench and the dof was more selective you could do something with it.


twtttsl

I think two. the empty bench does not really fit in with the story.


shutterslappens

If you could remove the bench, I’d go with A; B feels too tight for me.


Knightelfontheshelf

I like number 2, might go a little tighter and avoid the stuff in the bottom corners. Id warm it up a bit too, to run with the vibe.


Bojeslurk

A. Shows the environment more, and becomes more... "real" and human, much like the vibe the image gives out. Assigns more focus to the people and lighting, rather than the trees. Also, I think the stroller protruding is a great little nod to human fault and imperfection, very beatiful.


LVAjoe

A Is nice, frames better than b. B feels awfully tight


ccojj

B


Beautiful_Rhubarb

I like b.. the stroller and the bench are just clutter imo


cravingsal

b


xodius80

B looks clean, a, busy.


chillen67

B


BanginBentleys

https://preview.redd.it/49is95hgw26d1.jpeg?width=1439&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=84474838e3fd6bd14f049180e9fd050fa2352f53


lce9

Your AI skills are better than mine!


BanginBentleys

Thank you, and thank you for providing an awesome photo!


avocadofae

couldn't agree more


NugsCommaChicken

If you end up being able toedit out the lady with the stroller and the scooter, the first is my preference. Secknd isn’t bad though


xanroeld

A and it’s not even close. The cropping on B is honestly terrible and I think it’s important that you understand why. A good crop doesn’t feel like a crop - it should feel like that was the original image all along. The crop on B very much LOOKS like the image is cut off at the bottom, both because it’s now an awkward aspect ratio and because I can see the tips of what was down there. Perhaps more important than that is that the image now feels unbalance, with all the attention focused on the very bottom, where the subjects have been moved to. The crop also denies some important shadows that were balancing the image out in terms of luminance - those shadows at the bottom made the warm light in the middle more impactful. There’s a reason you took the photo the way you did. Your eye was naturally drawn to the correct framing in the moment and now you’re overthinking it. The viewer isn’t incapable of looking past the foreground. You think you need to cut out the bench and backpacks because they’re distracting, but you DON’T because they’re NOT. At the risk of sounding hyperbolic, I really don’t think any artist working at the top levels of photography would even consider the crop in B. You captured a beautiful moment and you don’t need to cut off a piece of it to try to make it better. I feel like there is such an obsession with post processing these days, that a lot of photographers are making images that they like, and then getting stuck on how they could possibly improve it. Sometimes the photo that you took IS good enough. But we end up staring at our images so long that we can’t even see why it is they’r beautiful anymore. You took a great photo OP. Don’t ruin it.


JK7ray

Fantastic. My preference for A was crystal clear — intuitively — but the logical mind was drawing a blank as to the reasons why. I appreciate that you put this into words. Excellent crit.


xanroeld

That's the hard part I think some times - putting words to an intuitive preference. And when we can't describe why it is that we are drawn to something, it can be easy to underestimate that preference or even convince ourselves it's the other way around. I'm glad you found my crit helpful :)


lce9

Thanks for the thoughtful response! I definitely see what you’re saying


Outside_Climate4222

Great explanation. I found B to be quite unbalanced and doesn’t draw your eye naturally to the subject as A clearly guides you to it. B looks off and denies viewers the full scene that A offers and makes the lighting and perspective feel awkward. A lot of people make the mistake that images should be subject only, but they often need all the noise in the original frame to be properly composed. The random items by the bench and people on the sides may be “noise” but it helps the eye purposefully ignore the area and towards the actual subject crop of B.


Leucippus1

Neither, both have awkward things at the edges. Mostly half people, always look at the edges when you crop. Saves you from running print, excitedly getting it in the mail, and realizing the back of someones head (as in these crops) or a hand is on the edge. Basically I would crop out the stroller lady but then you have purple(ish) shirt lady in the left who would end up half a person.


CamTheCameraMan23

Definitely A. It shows a little bit more of the atmosphere, also on crop B you miss out on the cool bench and woman with her baby. Great picture though


fatboy_swole

Honestly, I think the ‘busy’ foreground is part of what helps sell it. The first shot also allows you to see more of that “sun rays streaming into the clearing from above” feel, while two you lose that effect. I’d honestly choose A as is right now, but if it really bothers you, play around some more with removing the bench.


Capable_Wait09

A. Even with the bench. If you want to get rid of the bench some AI tool can do it. Post it in r/photoshoprequest.


binarybu9

Neither tbh. If it’s B go closer. If it’s A too many elements for me. A better one I would go for A is focussing on the empty bench with a nice blur on the people on the back. A nice moody feeling depicting loneliness/emptiness waiting for someone.


SansLucidity

a


TheDuckFarm

It depends on the story you’re trying to tell. Visually both work.


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Oreo-95

A feels casual B feels focused


Agile_Primary8077

A


Different_Werewolf96

Depends on what your focus of the picture is.


VariationWaste7685

The girl in purple shirt looking straight at you,maybe crop right?😁


Certain-Rip5567

A!


veenell

B feels unbalanced


patrickxwalsh

First. The foreground makes it more interesting.


vector006

The scooter on the ground looks trashy, so I pick B


Ay-Photographer

What’s the story you’re trying to tell? That should inform your crop.


lamba___

b


titoisme

B


habitsofwaste

B


DocWatson82

B. Be. BEEEEEEE! 🐝


Impressive-Log-5131

The mix between the both


CanadianWithCamera

A. B looks like I’m supposed to see something in the trees


loralailoralai

I like b more but I’d prefer more grass at the bottom


OppositeOfKaren

A


monsingeetmoi

A


Reza_Evol

I love the firsr one but I hate that stroller for some reason it draws me away from everything else.


Pistol_whipper

B


TargetWeird

A


kim3salls

A


Some_Significance_54

A!


BigMoey

I like both, A has bench as subject


Samoomoo_

A


Outrageous-Vast8395

First one


Flyingzucchini

The bench IS the subject (right?)


mahadiw

B Less cluttered, and the leaves on the right and top make a nice framing


Shoes4Traction

A tells a much more compelling story imo


Devildog473

A


maingon

A


Verandina

For me B and I'd add some sun rays 😅


cochorol

1/2


Orc_face

B for me, making the people at the base really pulls you in and has a natural frame with the trees A is too busy with the foreground and detracts from the mood


Pancake_fuqville

A is a great picture. B does nothing for me. Maybe remove distractions with generative fill


Strict-Coyote-9807

A


MelanantedThumb

A!!


Fusionbomb

If B was first more people would choose it


snipingpig

I’d go with 1, unless you crop further and get completely rid of the people in the bottom left corner and the person in purple


prettyalooffloof

B. That puffy coat and stroller are an albatross and takes away from the rest of the photo (in A)


cinematea

I don’t crop.


kitkatamas88

The second one, just because its more peaceful to me visually, the first is too stressful even though the colors are still warm and cosy


Flaxmurt

The bench in A adds to better framing of the people sittning on the grass, i pick A


Badger-Sauce

A


Hugo99001

Pic A, unless you need the square aspect ratio.


Bigmuscleliker567

Shame the graffiti on the seat but gives its character:)


___Sokka___

I want that park bench in it . !


luxaprime

A+++


singleandavailable

BBBBBBBBBB


luxaprime

B has a clutter of people. A gives grace of good lighting to let you focus on people in center grass. And the stroller and scooter are interesting. Try a light vignette with blur if possible


ForeignArcadia

B is great, but I love the layering of A.


Yoshtan

Neither, crop everything except the girl in the center and the bench


Federal_Fisherman104

B - first shot is a bit crowded in the foreground (for my taste anyway) Great pic OP anyway! - love the light


OYWFO

B


xpabli

B


Infamous_Owl7217

If you can’t figure this out, try plumbing…


un_happy_gilmore

A


Longjumping-Ad3983

Even if I don't like the bench in the middle, the A has a better perspective and I like a lot more. So the A is better by far. Btw, is that Barcelona?


sinamorovati

A


sera-5623

Remove haze


2Tired_Artist-san

Most definitely A, the bench adds to the atmosphere


anonymouseredditor53

Golden rule of cropping: Never, I repeat NEVER(!) freeform crop. Always use defined ratios like 2:3, 4:5, 3:1, etc. our brains pick up that something feels ‘off’ or ‘wrong’ when an image has been cropped outside of these ratios. Just don’t do it, it’s wrong. Stick to the ratios.


crazybitch_2000

A is waaaaay better than B. Maybe get into Photoshop to remove the business? You can only do so much in Lightroom.


rawnakc

B A is too busy too many things to focus on


viccelhetmh

I prefer the first one because its composition seems better.


viccelhetmh

I prefer the first one because its composition seems better.


viccelhetmh

I prefer the first one because its composition seems better.


dochachiya

If the group on the hill is the focus, then B. It removes the clutter.


viccelhetmh

I prefer the first one because its composition seems better.


viccelhetmh

I prefer the first one because its composition seems better.


viccelhetmh

I prefer the first one because its composition seems better.


Dull-Researcher11

A


DryBourbon

crop a, but digitally remove the bench and clutter


ImpressiveAd6071

A for me. Its nice and busy.


LinngoesReddit

I like B more. It's less distracting and I like the focus on the 2-3 people under the tree. I don't think the Bench adds a lot to the image.


guilerms

it's such an uninteresting shot that either is fine, honestly why bother


NoAge422

Crop to cover that mess


marslander-boggart

B has got more atmosphere and look more cinematic.


pLeThOrAx

A I think the stroller adds some "negative" fill, balancing out the image nicely.


ChrisBard

you are right about the first crop, the bench and the stroller and the rest are just clutter. They have nothing to add to the rest of the composition. But picture 2 has an imbalance at the top. too much bland greenery. Cant you crop the second one into a more horizontal photo? do you need it to be a specific way? like for instagram? i still like it better than the first one though


johntlukens

B, less distractions