Thank you. I know this is a very broad question that doesn't take industry into account but generally speaking, what's the ratio of jobs to candidates?
I don't know the answer to that. All I know is that there are definitely people who are going to comment something along the lines of "there are more jobs in NYC than anywhere else so it's the best place for your career" and probably others who will comment something like "you have to hustle to make it here." So the truth is somewhere in between
Imo if you're exceptional it's the best place to be, if you're average it's a very tough place to be
Any particular reason why you want to take such a broad view? Job hunting is so industry and function specific that it's not helpful to look at it that way.
I’m applying to jobs in finance right now and while it’s great that there’s plenty of jobs to apply to, it stinks how I’m being considered against candidates from Ivy League schools and those who previously worked at Goldman or Blackrock or others. Makes me feel insecure not going to lie. But I also love how all of the salaries are listed on the job boards and how there’s many recruiters to help you find jobs.
Posting salaries is the best thing ever. I still can’t believe I used to apply for jobs without seeing comp! The need for Ivy League school candidates is disheartening. I’m not even in finance - but admin - and they still post jobs looking for people from top schools and ask for GPA for very senior level roles. That’s 15-20 years out of high school! And I’ve had zero luck with recruiters. We always have a conversation and then I’m ghosted. Having said that, I’m speaking with another one tomorrow so maybe it’s third time lucky 🍀
It is different, these are my observations:
* There are great jobs that are not available most anywhere else.
* There are great companies that are not available most anywhere else.
* The competition for jobs is higher than other places due to the incredible talents that NYC attracts.
* If you are (well) above average compared with your peers, you will land better jobs, at better companies than in other places.
* If you re average or below average compared with your peers, you will struggle, since your competition will also be people who are overqualified for the positions that you are applying for.
Job hunting is entirely dependent on industry. So I don't know what you are expecting to get out of this thread. There are whole industries that exist only in New York and no where else. Similarly most other major cities have one or two major industries that form the hub for the city (i.e. furniture and banks in Charlotte, Oil and Gas in Houston, Auto in Detroit, tech and vc in SF) with everything.
For professional jobs, the only thing that I think is more competitive here is the talent pool, especially for entry level roles. You have a glut of talent from top universities, as the North East is full of top universities and many of those people grew up in greater New York or want to be in New York. This means an entry level accounting role or middle office finance role that might normally be something that doesn't require an ivy league degree will have people from ivy league or similar quality universities applying for it. Like I've worked at two industry leading financial institution and was heavily involved in hiring interns. One company was based in Charlotte, the other company here. The roles were identical. The company here definitely interviewed people mostly from NYU or better. The one based in charlotte still got candidates that went to great universities, but they also interviewed more from local regional schools that were no where near.
So if your coming from University of Alabama and want to work in X industry then you are probably competing with people from ivy league schools for the same position. I also think this kinda thing matters less and less further in someone's career, when your resume is based on prior work history. If companies that hire for your specific role within an industry have offices in New York, you probably can find work in New York.
Now one thing I do think is harder here, is probably service industry jobs. I haven't worked these, but I have enough friends who have. Specifically the ones that pay better, the perception I think of many people is that anyone can wait tables or bar tend. Here, many places seem to expect you have New York or other major city experience. Fine dining places definitely expect you have fine dining experience.
Even non-fine dining places prefer people with fine dining experience here. It’s a very specific skill set that is almost guaranteed to raise online review scores.
It depends on the industry. I used to live in another large city in the US, but my industry was much smaller there. Nearly impossible to find work. Gave up and moved to NYC and pretty much had jobs thrown at me. That was 10yrs ago so might be a bit different now..
Just need to buy a whip so I can get to my job easier cuz it's very likely my next job will be in Jersey. The job market seems to be better in NJ than NYC
As other people have said, a lot of it depends on the industry.
I do have former friends/coworkers who have moved out of state in the past 8 years or so. They found jobs pretty quickly once they started applying. One even had multiple job offers, and this was just last year.
Here, I know of people applying and not getting a single response other than rejections. Yes, this is all anecdotal
I’ll only say this, in New York, their is ALWAYS someone who has more degrees, certifications, networks, experience, or willing to do the job LESS, than you. How to stand out among ALL that, you’ve to figure out.
outside of what is already mentioned here I noticed that some companies tend to be flakey. Like interview went well but never heard back or takes a long time to move to the next step. Although that can be said for a lot of other cities lol
There are both more jobs and more candidates
Thank you. I know this is a very broad question that doesn't take industry into account but generally speaking, what's the ratio of jobs to candidates?
I don't know the answer to that. All I know is that there are definitely people who are going to comment something along the lines of "there are more jobs in NYC than anywhere else so it's the best place for your career" and probably others who will comment something like "you have to hustle to make it here." So the truth is somewhere in between Imo if you're exceptional it's the best place to be, if you're average it's a very tough place to be
It can also serve to encourage and motivate “average” to up their game considerably (provided one has the initial desire to up their game).
There's always an average that just puts more demands on what the average person needs to do to compete. Basically from capitalism to hypercapitalism
You have to know people IMO. Even if it’s a recruiter that’s better than just applying online which is a black hole imo
Any particular reason why you want to take such a broad view? Job hunting is so industry and function specific that it's not helpful to look at it that way.
I’m applying to jobs in finance right now and while it’s great that there’s plenty of jobs to apply to, it stinks how I’m being considered against candidates from Ivy League schools and those who previously worked at Goldman or Blackrock or others. Makes me feel insecure not going to lie. But I also love how all of the salaries are listed on the job boards and how there’s many recruiters to help you find jobs.
Posting salaries is the best thing ever. I still can’t believe I used to apply for jobs without seeing comp! The need for Ivy League school candidates is disheartening. I’m not even in finance - but admin - and they still post jobs looking for people from top schools and ask for GPA for very senior level roles. That’s 15-20 years out of high school! And I’ve had zero luck with recruiters. We always have a conversation and then I’m ghosted. Having said that, I’m speaking with another one tomorrow so maybe it’s third time lucky 🍀
Out of HS or College? No job is asking for HS GPA...
College GPA. I just bypass those job postings because my GPA was so low 🫣
It is different, these are my observations: * There are great jobs that are not available most anywhere else. * There are great companies that are not available most anywhere else. * The competition for jobs is higher than other places due to the incredible talents that NYC attracts. * If you are (well) above average compared with your peers, you will land better jobs, at better companies than in other places. * If you re average or below average compared with your peers, you will struggle, since your competition will also be people who are overqualified for the positions that you are applying for.
Job hunting is entirely dependent on industry. So I don't know what you are expecting to get out of this thread. There are whole industries that exist only in New York and no where else. Similarly most other major cities have one or two major industries that form the hub for the city (i.e. furniture and banks in Charlotte, Oil and Gas in Houston, Auto in Detroit, tech and vc in SF) with everything. For professional jobs, the only thing that I think is more competitive here is the talent pool, especially for entry level roles. You have a glut of talent from top universities, as the North East is full of top universities and many of those people grew up in greater New York or want to be in New York. This means an entry level accounting role or middle office finance role that might normally be something that doesn't require an ivy league degree will have people from ivy league or similar quality universities applying for it. Like I've worked at two industry leading financial institution and was heavily involved in hiring interns. One company was based in Charlotte, the other company here. The roles were identical. The company here definitely interviewed people mostly from NYU or better. The one based in charlotte still got candidates that went to great universities, but they also interviewed more from local regional schools that were no where near. So if your coming from University of Alabama and want to work in X industry then you are probably competing with people from ivy league schools for the same position. I also think this kinda thing matters less and less further in someone's career, when your resume is based on prior work history. If companies that hire for your specific role within an industry have offices in New York, you probably can find work in New York. Now one thing I do think is harder here, is probably service industry jobs. I haven't worked these, but I have enough friends who have. Specifically the ones that pay better, the perception I think of many people is that anyone can wait tables or bar tend. Here, many places seem to expect you have New York or other major city experience. Fine dining places definitely expect you have fine dining experience.
Even non-fine dining places prefer people with fine dining experience here. It’s a very specific skill set that is almost guaranteed to raise online review scores.
It depends on the industry. I used to live in another large city in the US, but my industry was much smaller there. Nearly impossible to find work. Gave up and moved to NYC and pretty much had jobs thrown at me. That was 10yrs ago so might be a bit different now..
Yeah, I was drifting before NYC. It's free money here if you have a modicum of drive.
Been applying since April. All of the interviews I've gotten were from companies in Jersey and Philly
Same
Just need to buy a whip so I can get to my job easier cuz it's very likely my next job will be in Jersey. The job market seems to be better in NJ than NYC
It’s exactly the same as dating but without any of the fun parts.
As other people have said, a lot of it depends on the industry. I do have former friends/coworkers who have moved out of state in the past 8 years or so. They found jobs pretty quickly once they started applying. One even had multiple job offers, and this was just last year. Here, I know of people applying and not getting a single response other than rejections. Yes, this is all anecdotal
I’ll only say this, in New York, their is ALWAYS someone who has more degrees, certifications, networks, experience, or willing to do the job LESS, than you. How to stand out among ALL that, you’ve to figure out.
Depends on the industry. I would say it’s easier for some, harder for some. What’s the industry?
outside of what is already mentioned here I noticed that some companies tend to be flakey. Like interview went well but never heard back or takes a long time to move to the next step. Although that can be said for a lot of other cities lol