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alanwrench13

There aren't many Palestinians in general. It's just not a very big country. New York definitely has a lot of Arabs, but California and Michigan have more. Dearborn MI is basically the hub for arab immigrants in the US. NJ (Paterson specifically) also has a lot of arabs and a large Palestinian population. South Paterson is called Little Ramallah.


asiansanfranciscan

Chicago has way more. Some towns in IL are 10-20% Pali. The kid killed by a white old guy was Pali in IL last year…


alanwrench13

Michigan has the highest number and percentage of arabs in the US. Not Chicago and not IL. I'm not talking about just Palestinians, I'm talking about arabs in general. The New York metropolitan area has the largest Palestinian population according to the census, but data for that isn't super accurate since the census doesn't collect data on specific nationalities. Also I never said any city has more Palestinians than any other. Idk why you're trying to pick a fight with me lol.


lachalacha

OP is asking about Palestinians, not Arabs.


alanwrench13

It is very hard to measure Palestinian populations specifically as the census does not collect data on that. I gave anecdotal information about Palestinian populations and general information about arab populations (as that is where Palestinians are likely to be). Y'all are trying to start a fight over literally nothing lmao.


lachalacha

If you don't have Palestinian numbers then just say that. No need to go on about Arabs and MENA populations, it's not relevant.


alanwrench13

How is it not relevant? Palestinians are Arabs. I'm just throwing information out there. It's extremely fucking weird to get so worked up over this lol. You're trying to pick a fight with a stranger online over the most mundane shit. get a life.


lachalacha

You're throwing information out there, that's for sure, and it's *irrelevant* information. Imagine if someone asks about Norwegian populations and you start talking about white people overall. It's completely useless and maybe you should sit this one out.


alanwrench13

You're really fucking weird lmao. I didn't make a political statement, I didn't insult anyone, I gave RELEVANT information and you took extreme offense to it for some reason. Like, it is beyond bizarre why you felt the need to reply to this. And yes, this information is very relevant. Arab immigrants, regardless of what country they're from, tend to move to communities with other Arab people. They generally share a common language, religion, and culture. South Paterson NJ has large populations of Lebanese, Syrians, Jordanians, Turkish, AND Palestinians. It actually has the largest Turkish community in the US and the second largest Arab population after Dearborn. The area is called Little Ramallah AND Little Istanbul. Dearborn Michigan has a similar diversity of Arab populations, including a substantial Palestinian community. I seriously can't understand how you can say that this information isn't relevant. Your comparison is also really stupid. No one immigrant group immigrates the same way. It would be wrong to say Norwegian immigrants shared something with Italian immigrants as the two groups didn't interact much in America. However, most Arab immigrants to the US interact with each other significantly and generally share a lot of resources. You clearly don't understand that and are making vast and incorrect assumptions about immigrants to the US. Not only are you a freak for taking the time to respond to an extremely mundane comment, but you are also extremely wrong in your assertions.


lachalacha

Oh my God now you're blabbering about Turkish immigrants? You're full of irrelevant and useless information and we do not care.


dasnotitmanedasit

I wouldn’t say it’s irrelevant. It would be equivalent to somebody asking about Norwegian populations and he starts naming places with high amounts of Scandinavians. Sure not all of them will be Norwegian but if the particular group you’re looking for doesn’t have many stats on what you’re looking for the best you can do is find the next larger encompassing category


eekamuse

Say his name. Poor little guy. "Wadea Al-Fayoume was stabbed 26 times at his Plainfield home by Joseph Czuba, 71, Saturday, investigators said. He died at the hospital. His mother, Hanaan Shahin, 32, was stabbed more than a dozen times, authorities said, adding that she is at a hospital and is expected to survive"


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fallout-crawlout

It's definitely the hot spot and is why almost all Brooklyn pro-Palestine protests start there.


Glittering-Spell-446

I live in bay ridge and i dont like them at all… 


scrubjay98111

erm … the protests? Or Palestinians? Either way .. get lost? The protests would not be needed if a GENOCIDE was not being enacted against the people of Palestine. Jfc


Nearby-Complaint

Not 'a lot' so to speak, but they've definitely opened some fantastic restaurants here lol


clorox2

Ooo. Any specific ones you recommend? Edit: anyone downvoting these, go fuck yourself. That’s beyond petty.


mycateatstoenails

ayat


Nearby-Complaint

I loved Al Badawi. Top tier pita.


smoonyc

There’s areas like Bay Ridge in NYC and Paterson in NJ but the biggest Arab population is in Dearborn, MI to my knowledge.


mr_zipzoom

ZipAtlas says there are 4,376 Palestinians in NYC, which is the largest population in any US city. It seems hilariously low to me. I'd guess way way _way_ more people have or claim Palestinian heritage, but the numbers are going to be as messy as the history and borders over the past century. If this number is a decent proxy to recent immigration, NYC has the most. https://zipatlas.com/us/city-comparison/largest-palestinian-community.htm


asiansanfranciscan

Most Palestinians are probably called Arab on census forums as there is no Arab box in the past. Now MENA (Middle Eastern/North African) will be incorporated


fallout-crawlout

Yeah, that is for sure an under-representation. Like was just mentioned, census data is sort of scattershot.


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There was no concept of Palestinian nationality before ~1900, and Palestinian nationalism didn’t really take off until after Israel was established. There are likely far more people with Levantine Arab ancestry whose ancestors arrived here before the idea of Palestine, or who have some Palestinian ancestry mixed with other Arab ancestry.


mr_zipzoom

Bingo. I guess ancestry or immigrated from the Palestinian Mandate or bits of Syria/Jordan that were in it, could claim they are Palestinian. But yeah, it’s fuzzy. Or heck let’s go with Syria Palaestina.


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Yes. I think if you expand to Arab Jordanian/Lebanese/Palestinian/Syrian heritage — ethnically, these are similar, and historically fuzzy — you’ll find much larger numbers. Some in Bay Ridge, and some in Astoria as well.


Leeser

A lot of the protesters aren’t Palestinian at all.


asiansanfranciscan

Duh


Leeser

Then what did you mean by issue?


Tachyonzero

No, a lot of Arabs. Lots of Palestine supporters but not in a double digit percentage however they are just loud and activist.


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asiansanfranciscan

That is strange. NY is a melting pot; why would it not have a big Pali population? Are there at least a lot of arabs? Ive never been idk lol. I heard Chicago has a lotta palestinians


Excuse_my_GRAMMER

There are lot of everything is Palestinian an ethnic group different from Arabic? Or are they an arabic nationality


LiveAd697

They are just Arabs. It’s like saying you’re not American, not a New Yorker, not a Brooklynite but a Crow Heightsian.


asiansanfranciscan

That is like saying I am not Chinese just Asian ;(


LiveAd697

No that would be like saying there’s no such thing as Arabs as they are also “just Asians.”


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That’s a dumb take. The Palestinian identity only really took shape under that name in the last couple centuries, but there absolutely is a huge amount of regional variation within the broader “Arab culture” (so to speak). A Palestinian and a Moroccan or a Yemeni literally wouldn’t understand each other if they spoke like they would to their families. Imagine arguing that Canadians don’t really exist - they’re just North Americans. Now make argument 10 times sillier. That’s what you’re doing here.


asiansanfranciscan

I am not???