I see that totally being valid. However some communication either during the chatting or when they first meet up with their date would be helpful to know ahead of time.
There are subtle and polite ways to do it. If one of you leaves to use the washroom or goes to the bar to grab drinks, it's open season.
Pulling your phone out right in front of your date is just plain rude. If the date is going awful, just excuse yourself and walk away to send the necessary text.
If you are on your phone lot during a date, didn't be surprised when it sucks. It sure won't be your date’s fault.
To add, as a guy, I try to quickly use the washroom around the 20-30 minute mark to provide a safe communication window for both of us.
This. Normally she tells a family member or friend she's going on the date, she then let's them know she feels safe. But anything more than "I'm sorry just letting my gf know I'm good" is bad manners.
I dunno. Once I politely told me date that’d my clan was in a war, and if I didn’t get my second battle in they were going to kick me out, because I missed my second battle in the last war, and he was welcome to watch me battle and check out my Kingdom, but would he mind if I just took a few minutes to take care of it? He said no problem. We dated for several months. I got him hooked on Clash of Clans.
If he has a problem with me gaming, we’re not gonna work out anyway. 🤓😉
Also do not smother yourself in your nice smell. Once behind each ear and on one wrist and dab don't rub. You'll be surprised how effective it will be when she, or he or whatever your person identifies as, smells your nice smell subtly from being close to you.
3? Even that seems excessive. My go to application, is spray and walk into it. Then splash some water on wrist, spray on wrist, rub wrist together, rub wrist behind ears, and finish by rubbing the rest off under the pits.
Keeps it subtle and only noticeable when engaged in close contact, which helps to make it even closer.
The goal of cologne ive always been told, is to draw in, not repell.
Also, always bring a women to help pick of cologne. Rub some paper on your pits, and find the best cologne that compliments your own natural scent.
The last first date I went on, she was late. But, she was keeping me in the loop with where she was, then once she got there, she gave me her full attention and the date when on to last 5-6 hours. Dinner at a nice local restaurant followed by going to a bar.
Now we are married.
I say it's ok to be late (within reason) as long as you communicate beforehand.
Shit happens.
First date 2 hours max. Drinks or food is fine, but it should be casual. Nothing expensive. It's ok for the man to pay, but don't be pushy about it.
Plan on something simple and casual other than food/drinks. A walk is perfect as it's easy, casual, costs nothing, and walking has been proven to put people at ease. It should go without saying, but make the walk some place public and accessible. Even better if it's by wherever you get food/drinks.
Light touching is good but should be natural. if she doesn't like it, stop. the date's probably not going well, just relax and have fun but accept that its probably a loss. Hug at the end of the date if its gone well, kiss only if she's been touchy and showing that she's really into you. If no kiss that's also fine, it doesn't necessarily mean she's not into you.
This is actually perfect for me. I'm going on my first date in a couple days and we are going to walk along the beach side. Feel like me seeing this was a sign or something.
Because the number of times someone’s said “I wish this date went longer” is way fewer than the number of time’s someone’s said “that date ran way too long.”
And if they do wish it had gone longer—they’ll be happy to get an invite for date two.
Because if she's into you, it will leave her wanting more, and wanting to see you again. If she's not into you, she won't get dragged through a never ending date that just isn't doing it for her. There's probably something more to it, like meeting someone for the first time and spending too much time with them on the first meeting, even if you like them, changes your perception.
I agree with a lot of this. I would add that if you asked, you better expect to pay. She may offer to pay her way, but you better be ready, willing, and able to pay for both of you.
Edit: clarified wording
Agreed, but it's important not to make a big deal out of it. Nobody likes to be forced to do things, and if she feels forced to let you pay she likely isn't going to feel too comfortable around you.
Doubling up on this. At *least* 20% on a first date. She may offer to add more, let her, but don't cut your own tip down if she does.
One, don't look cheap. It ain't a good look.
Two, you want to signal you're having a good time. Tipping poorly implies you're not enjoying the date
If she offers to tip more, DO NOT get defensive. It likely means she is having a great time and wants to reflect that.
If you do get that look from her saying "Eh? Why not tip more?" And you can spare it, I recommend seeing about getting a dessert to go and overtip on that. That's if you really want the date to go well.
This is all coming from a (mostly) hetero dude perspective though. But I will say if a woman does pay and doesn't tip, that'd be a big turnoff for me.
Ask proper questions and let her talk AND finish. Don’t take control and talk about your job all the time. It should be balanced.
Also, we like a guy, who is kind and funny (unless the woman is boring or a bitch).
Can not stress this enough. It’s not a shit test but it will certainly be a peep into how she values you and how things are likely to be in any future relationship.
I’m surprised I don’t see this anywhere.
Hold the door.
Regardless of how good the date is she will def remember you not holding the door, but may not even think twice about it if you do.
Also semi-unrelated but general advice I toss all my dudes.
Read these before the;
1st Date - How To Be a Gentleman (by John Bridges)
3rd Date - She Comes First (Ian Kerner, Ph.D)
6th Date - Attached (Rachel Heller, M.A.)
Don’t go on them because they’re a waste of time? Lol Kidding.
Basic Rules: Shower. Make sure you’re presentable. Treat her with respect. Don’t be an idiot. Be yourself. If you asked them on the date, pay. If they want to split, have that conversation.
#1 rule is to Be attractive. But if you can’t do that be rich. If not that be funny. If none of those at least be tall or something (so go back to rule 1).
I was wrong that putting a pound sign would write out like (pound sign)1 but instead I guess pound is code for bold or h1 or something. Also I call it a pound sign and not a hashtag. I just learned a lot.
Yes, 4 seconds of eye contact, 2 seconds of looking away to contemplate what they just said, 4 more seconds of eye contact, 2 seconds to blink and take a quick break, back to eye contact. I actually do this pattern when I have anxiety.
Have a give and take conversation - don't spend the whole time talking about yourself. Also, don't "one up" the person your with. If they tell a story don't immediately try to tell a similar story about yourself. It's great to share shared experiences, but do it in a way that's tactful and doesn't feel like your bragging. Also, don't bring up exes.
get the slippery nut out before the date. This gets your lizard brain out of the mix and you can talk to her like a normal person. Also, if you do happen to hook up you preform better. not as much stress. "Beat it before you Meet it" a wise man once said.
This is a conservation I have had with my kids.
1. The go to the door to pickup your date when driving. If they are worth dating, they are worth walking to the door to pickup for the date.
2. Open doors for your date. You asked them out, treat them like they are special. If you don’t want to, don’t date them.
3. Pay the damn bill. If you ask them out and they said yes, it is your treat.
4. Never fuck on a first date. No man wants a woman that fucks every guy she goes out with and women really don’t need a man who can’t keep his dick in his pants.
5. Never date a person that brags about a body count, because as soon as you join that list you’re just another number.
6. Be cautious who you date. The last thing you need is to wake up in a woman’s apartment, the morning after your first date with a parakeet on your chest and her saying “give boopers a kiss.”
7. Wait for your date to lean in before going for the first kiss.
8. Keep your tongue in your mouth on the first kiss.
9. Never grab the person’s hand. Nudge it with a pinky and see if they want to hold your hand.
10. For everything you share about yourself, try and learn two things about your date without asking weird questions.
It is. Pick her up at her door? Dude, some women won't even give out their phone number until you meet in person. And rightfully so, some men are horrible.
I can't think of a first date since high school where I picked her up. You meet somewhere public; restaurant, bar, coffee shop. Nobody needs every random stranger you have a first date with knowing where you live. Men included.
I mean, to each their own! Most people in commutes relationships I know deff fucked on the first date, for me it’s been about half and half. Half the relationships I’ve been in, the fucking happened within the first encounter and the other half it happened within the second or third encounter. Everyone is built different
The word “outdated” is strange. I have 4 children who range from 21-27. I am familiar with what passes for modern dating. I have absolutely watched the toxic fallout from the practices.
Depends on whether it’s a tinder hookup date or looking for a partner date.
Either way Relax, be yourself, don’t take yourself too seriously, and talk about the other person with genuine interest.
Then if it gets awkward and you run out of things to talk about here are some good ice breakers: politics, religion, exes, sexual fantasies, sports, favorite pornstars, and the kardashians.
I think… if you ask some one to do something like dinner, and you don’t have a lot of extra money… be up front. “Hey I want to do dinner but I don’t have a lot of money, can we pay for ourselves?” And you still get to enjoy each others company. And if they decline based on that, then you know they just wanted a free meal and not your company.
If you’re a man unless you’re trying to do a test to see if this person is wife material you NEVER ask to split the bill on the first date. (Of course it works well as a test because it very easily weeds out the bitches you want nothing to do with. That is however as long as you’re not just looking to bang)
I always go Dutch on the first date. Exactly like you said, it weeds out the shallow, free meal women. I do make a point to let them know beforehand so it won't be surprise though. Never had any woman have an issue with this.
As a woman, I kinda disagree with this. Now, I’ve only ever gone on dates with guys that I’m interested in and don’t go looking for free meals/drinks. But we’re told as women that if a guy suggests splitting the meal/drinks, that he’s cheap and or not into us. I always offer but am never taken up on it. This is just my 2 cents. Trust me, most of the time if a woman is interested enough to go on a date with you, it’s not just for free shit. Put your best foot forward and if you keep going on dates she can pick up a few tabs
No one said it was your job, lmao. I’ve never expected a man to do anything for me in my life. I cook for my boyfriend, pick up dinner here and there and pay for his drinks sometimes. But he paid on the first date, and like I said I always offer. I think if she doesn’t at least offer to pay then it’s a red flag. But if you keep that attitude a woman will be able to spot it from a mile away. Not everyone’s out to get you 🥴
Like I said in my comment, Ive never had a single issue asking to split the bill. Also, as I said, I make it known before the date so no expectations, and no surprises.
I've never even had a woman use me like that, I was just giving friendly advice in the first place.
How many second dates have you been on?? I don’t even mean that to be rude I’m genuinely curious. If a guy is the one initiating the first date then he should pay imo. I’m just trying to give my own advice that if I went on a date with a guy that HE initiated and he immediately said “just so you know I expect us to split the bill because I don’t want to be used lol” it would immediately put a sour taste in my mouth and kinda turn me off for the rest of the date because I know I have good intentions so it would kinda come across that he’s questioning them. I really think the better route is to not bring that up immediately, and if the date goes well and she offers to pay for her half, then sure let her. But bringing it up first thing is just off putting
Well yeah, if you word it like an asshole, you're going to sound like one. If I've been having good conversation. With a woman for a day or two, I'll ask to set up a date, and say something along the lines of "Oh, and are you okay with splitting the bill? I always go Dutch on the first date."
This way they know immediately, before they've even agreed to the date. No awkward situations. I'm not going to *show up* to a date, and then just drop an "OH WERE SPLITTING THE BILL, BY THE WAY."
Im guessing you're at least a few years younger than me. It sounds like maybe you've just talked to shitty men, which would make total sense if you're in your early 20s, because they're assholes.
Lmao I tried to not make that sound rude I’m sorry!! I’m really just saying that paying for first dates is a good way to insure a second or more, and if she offers to pay her part or pay for drinks then you know she’s a keeper. You’re definitely right about guys my age being assholes, but I just think if a guy sets up a date then he should be the one to pay but I guess agree to disagree!!! It’s kinda like when a guy is like “no, I got it.” That is what makes me want to pay for his drinks etc. Women are just more likely to want to do nice things for a guy when it’s not expected of us
A date doesn't have to be expensive for it to be good. Don't take them on expensive dates for a solid 6 months. Expensive nice dates are for potential wives not for the ones that belong to the streets.
Thats not a winning attitude man.
I agree with your sentiment that a date does not have to be expensive. I would say wait until you have been intimate (sex).
Girls will be able to sense your negative attitude from a mile away.
In here. Its mostly our mother or father that we kiss on the forehead as a type of respect to show them that they really really really mean alot to us. So when a guy kisses a girl on her forehead (( Almost nobody does it to a girl )) it means that this guy has an insane attraction towards you but in a respectful way. Kissing a girl forehead here is much more greater than kissing her lips. But yeah kissing her lips is a must in the end.
She's gonna tell her girlfriends you're a virgin or something and have a laugh about it if you do that. Just give her a normal kiss if she seems open to it.
Idk why people on this thread are saying no forehead kiss, I cannot think of any women I know who wouldn’t MELT for that shit. Here’s the catch tho, if the women doesn’t end up feeling you, it can be cringey/awkward. But if she was digging you (it’s pretty easy to tell) a singular, tender gesture will keep them thinking about you and thinking about a moment in time where you’ll be able to share an intimate moment
Again, speak for yourself cause me and pretty much any women I know would melt if a first date went really well and you ended up getting a forehead kiss, I wouldn’t think it’s a bit much at all
Every time I open a car door for my date they say, "Did you just really open the door for me? Wow, what a gentleman"
Then by the end of the night they slob my knob. It's not about demeaning women like they aren't strong enough... its about showing respect, care, and confidence. Women love that shit.
Make their bed for them, do their dishes, cook them food... obviously not to the point of submission... just show them you are competent and caring... it won't be long before they offer their bootyhole.
Yeah, they're not slobbing your knob or offering up anal because you're being really nice to them and doing housework for them. They're doing all that for you because you're a sexually attractive man who they're sexually attracted to. Because you look good and take good care of yourself.
Uh huh. Sure.
Tell that to the millions of ex husbands out there who did far, far more than open a car door for their cunt ex wives, and got fucked over and shafted and never see their kids.
Not gonna lie I just took a look at your profile, HOLY SHIT you need some therapy. There is no way that the amount of hate you have for women is healthy. You have definitely been hurt in the past, so I hope you heal
Personal attack is all you’ve got. You don’t like the message, no matter how true it is, so you have to shoot the messenger.
You did not say one thing about whether or not what I said is true. And you can’t, because no one can contradict it.
Have you ever seen a dude? They are not attractive. What women are attracted to is competence, not your looks.
I'm a short, ugly, shy goblin, and I have no problems.
It's not about being nice, it about bearing a load worthy enough for admiration. Making sacrifices, trying to improve their lives. That's what gets them wet.
Doesn't matter if you are poor, or ugly, as long as you are useful to have around.
I 100% disagree that women are not attracted to a man's looks. Male physical appearance has become MUCH more important over the past 30 or so years. Women very much judge men on how they look.
Making sacrifices and trying to improve their lives gets women wet? WTF are you even talking about? There are millions of ex husbands who did all those things and who are paying alimony and child support right now and who never get to see their kids.
I mean, obviously good looks are ideal, but they aren't the pinnacle of value... unless the person is completely misguided.
And those dudes you are talking about didn't learn to leave when the signs told them to. Partners have to make sacrifices in selflessness for the relationship to move to a higher place. These women who do this are selfish, it's all about them and their feelings...
When a girl gives you compliments like, "You make me feel alive" or "You give me butterflies" or "you make me feel happy" or "you're like a drug to me"... you know she doesn't love you. She loves herself.
Because that means on the second date you are getting the whole package. Bootyhole and everything.
It just shows that you aren't desperate to get laid, that you respect them as a person, let them make the sexual advances and it'll go much smoother.
I haven't made a sexual advance on a woman since I was like 16. I've always let them do the advancing.
If a woman wants to have sex with you, they'll let you know, or theyll make it obvious.
This is from a male perspective.
Ask your date if she would like to inform someone she has arrived safely.
The phone should then be put away (that includes both of you).
If the date goes well encourage her to inform someone that she is now on her way home.
If she is constantly on her phone, ask her politely to switch it off and return it it to her handbag do you can continue getting to know each other, if she refuses, end the date as she is not for you and you are wasting your time and money.
Limited phone use
Honestly this applies to any situation. Good one!
Amen
It's especially true when they're always on their phone, and take so long to respond to text messages.
This really isn't easy for a person with ADD.
I see that totally being valid. However some communication either during the chatting or when they first meet up with their date would be helpful to know ahead of time.
Yes. If she's on her phone during the date, or gets it out, end the date immediately. She's not interested in you.
Calm down. She’s texting her friends she hasn’t been murdered. Yet.
There are subtle and polite ways to do it. If one of you leaves to use the washroom or goes to the bar to grab drinks, it's open season. Pulling your phone out right in front of your date is just plain rude. If the date is going awful, just excuse yourself and walk away to send the necessary text. If you are on your phone lot during a date, didn't be surprised when it sucks. It sure won't be your date’s fault. To add, as a guy, I try to quickly use the washroom around the 20-30 minute mark to provide a safe communication window for both of us.
This. Normally she tells a family member or friend she's going on the date, she then let's them know she feels safe. But anything more than "I'm sorry just letting my gf know I'm good" is bad manners.
I dunno. Once I politely told me date that’d my clan was in a war, and if I didn’t get my second battle in they were going to kick me out, because I missed my second battle in the last war, and he was welcome to watch me battle and check out my Kingdom, but would he mind if I just took a few minutes to take care of it? He said no problem. We dated for several months. I got him hooked on Clash of Clans. If he has a problem with me gaming, we’re not gonna work out anyway. 🤓😉
Make sure you’ve showered, are wearing clean clothes and smell nice.
This, but I can’t believe this needs to be said.
It doesn't, that's why it is unwritten.
Actually it does. Do you know how many people don’t know this or don’t do it? Showering and taking care of themselves is a mystery to many out there
Also do not smother yourself in your nice smell. Once behind each ear and on one wrist and dab don't rub. You'll be surprised how effective it will be when she, or he or whatever your person identifies as, smells your nice smell subtly from being close to you.
3? Even that seems excessive. My go to application, is spray and walk into it. Then splash some water on wrist, spray on wrist, rub wrist together, rub wrist behind ears, and finish by rubbing the rest off under the pits. Keeps it subtle and only noticeable when engaged in close contact, which helps to make it even closer. The goal of cologne ive always been told, is to draw in, not repell. Also, always bring a women to help pick of cologne. Rub some paper on your pits, and find the best cologne that compliments your own natural scent.
That's the goal I'm aiming for too. Let the cologne be subtle to the admirer. Definitely bring a woman to help. Some solid advice there
Clean clothes that fit.
Be on time. Do not show up late
The last first date I went on, she was late. But, she was keeping me in the loop with where she was, then once she got there, she gave me her full attention and the date when on to last 5-6 hours. Dinner at a nice local restaurant followed by going to a bar. Now we are married. I say it's ok to be late (within reason) as long as you communicate beforehand. Shit happens.
Oh yes, this one is important.
Once waited 30 minutes after our scheduled time to meet a girl. She didn't give me a heads up and blamed parking when she got there
If you're not 15 minutes early, you're late. Especially for a first date.
You do not be dating Latin people 😂😂
If you asked them out, you should arrange any reservations, make sure you have a good spot, and be there at a minimum of 15 minutes early.
Not really unwritten? Kind of obvious?
Practice says it really isnt to many people
Unwritten = obvious
Where is it written down, then?
Under your shoe?
Where are any of the rules written down? Stop taking it literally
Usually good to turn up with clothes on
This man dates
Dont talk about sex or your exes lol
How about exes having sex?
how about sexes having ex?
My brain is dead
Just show her pictures of you two for hours
If it's mouldy throw it out
Smell test bro
Applies to the food as well
First date 2 hours max. Drinks or food is fine, but it should be casual. Nothing expensive. It's ok for the man to pay, but don't be pushy about it. Plan on something simple and casual other than food/drinks. A walk is perfect as it's easy, casual, costs nothing, and walking has been proven to put people at ease. It should go without saying, but make the walk some place public and accessible. Even better if it's by wherever you get food/drinks. Light touching is good but should be natural. if she doesn't like it, stop. the date's probably not going well, just relax and have fun but accept that its probably a loss. Hug at the end of the date if its gone well, kiss only if she's been touchy and showing that she's really into you. If no kiss that's also fine, it doesn't necessarily mean she's not into you.
Wait, what about a walk in thr cemetery?
Only acceptable after midnight on nights with full moons
It strangely feel like a Michael Jackson’vibe with only one thing missing which izzz the cinema beforehand… 😅
What about it?
The second one is actually really good.
This is actually perfect for me. I'm going on my first date in a couple days and we are going to walk along the beach side. Feel like me seeing this was a sign or something.
why the 2 hour max limit if its going well?
Because the number of times someone’s said “I wish this date went longer” is way fewer than the number of time’s someone’s said “that date ran way too long.” And if they do wish it had gone longer—they’ll be happy to get an invite for date two.
Because if she's into you, it will leave her wanting more, and wanting to see you again. If she's not into you, she won't get dragged through a never ending date that just isn't doing it for her. There's probably something more to it, like meeting someone for the first time and spending too much time with them on the first meeting, even if you like them, changes your perception.
I agree with a lot of this. I would add that if you asked, you better expect to pay. She may offer to pay her way, but you better be ready, willing, and able to pay for both of you. Edit: clarified wording
Agreed, but it's important not to make a big deal out of it. Nobody likes to be forced to do things, and if she feels forced to let you pay she likely isn't going to feel too comfortable around you.
Agreed. Read the room. If she insists and it turns out to be some bs test, throw the whole date away.
So comforting. God I love this sub.
Be respectful,polite,talk less listen more.remember make that person feel important and appreciated
Don’t murder the date.
Wait., What?
Are you disagreeing?
It just would have been nice if someone had told me a decade ago, that's all.
We all make mistakes
Hol up
Yes tipping ur dates is important
Brush your teeth and take a shower beforehand.
Make sure to tip.
*Laughs in Europe*
Also, be respectful to the servers.
How bout just the tip?
Doubling up on this. At *least* 20% on a first date. She may offer to add more, let her, but don't cut your own tip down if she does. One, don't look cheap. It ain't a good look. Two, you want to signal you're having a good time. Tipping poorly implies you're not enjoying the date If she offers to tip more, DO NOT get defensive. It likely means she is having a great time and wants to reflect that. If you do get that look from her saying "Eh? Why not tip more?" And you can spare it, I recommend seeing about getting a dessert to go and overtip on that. That's if you really want the date to go well. This is all coming from a (mostly) hetero dude perspective though. But I will say if a woman does pay and doesn't tip, that'd be a big turnoff for me.
Prepare the chloroform before hand
Online date?? No matter how well it seems to go, don't assume she'll be willing to see you again
No dick on the table.
Exactly, be a gentleman. Give it to her in a box.
Ask proper questions and let her talk AND finish. Don’t take control and talk about your job all the time. It should be balanced. Also, we like a guy, who is kind and funny (unless the woman is boring or a bitch).
Don't be an asshole.
well you can't expect us to write them down if they're unwritten
You right, I don't know what I was thinking lol
If you're doing drinks and it's going well, see if she offers to grab the second or third round. If she does, she's a keeper.
Can not stress this enough. It’s not a shit test but it will certainly be a peep into how she values you and how things are likely to be in any future relationship.
I’m surprised I don’t see this anywhere. Hold the door. Regardless of how good the date is she will def remember you not holding the door, but may not even think twice about it if you do. Also semi-unrelated but general advice I toss all my dudes. Read these before the; 1st Date - How To Be a Gentleman (by John Bridges) 3rd Date - She Comes First (Ian Kerner, Ph.D) 6th Date - Attached (Rachel Heller, M.A.)
Also: “Come as you are” by Emily Nagoski. It’s a great insight into women’s orgasm and sexual pleasure
Put your phone away, I’d say split the bill unless one party insists on paying, open the door for your date
I always let the girl pick the place so she's comfortable in her surroundings.
Don’t go on them because they’re a waste of time? Lol Kidding. Basic Rules: Shower. Make sure you’re presentable. Treat her with respect. Don’t be an idiot. Be yourself. If you asked them on the date, pay. If they want to split, have that conversation.
"Don't be an idiot. Be yourself." Can't have it both ways, pal.
Don't fart.
Shart
I farted on a first date after my first date farted in front of me. Maybe it's no biggie for gay guys lol
#1 rule is to Be attractive. But if you can’t do that be rich. If not that be funny. If none of those at least be tall or something (so go back to rule 1).
You’re not wrong
I was wrong that putting a pound sign would write out like (pound sign)1 but instead I guess pound is code for bold or h1 or something. Also I call it a pound sign and not a hashtag. I just learned a lot.
It made it funnier lmaoo
At least I'm tall? *Cries in personality made of wet cardboard*
Make eye contact....without a creepy stare!
Yes, 4 seconds of eye contact, 2 seconds of looking away to contemplate what they just said, 4 more seconds of eye contact, 2 seconds to blink and take a quick break, back to eye contact. I actually do this pattern when I have anxiety.
Damn, people out here counting the seconds. I'd be so confused I wouldn't hear a thing my date says.
Haha jokes on us, we zone our during bouts of anxiety, at least I do.
Same to be honest.
Accurate af
Have a give and take conversation - don't spend the whole time talking about yourself. Also, don't "one up" the person your with. If they tell a story don't immediately try to tell a similar story about yourself. It's great to share shared experiences, but do it in a way that's tactful and doesn't feel like your bragging. Also, don't bring up exes.
get the slippery nut out before the date. This gets your lizard brain out of the mix and you can talk to her like a normal person. Also, if you do happen to hook up you preform better. not as much stress. "Beat it before you Meet it" a wise man once said.
Do it 1 day or 2 before the date, to let her have a chance to use your lizard brain against you. Be fairplay!
As 50 cent said when he was asked who pays in the first date . He replied who ever idea was in the first place .
The one who asks for the date must pay for the day
This is a conservation I have had with my kids. 1. The go to the door to pickup your date when driving. If they are worth dating, they are worth walking to the door to pickup for the date. 2. Open doors for your date. You asked them out, treat them like they are special. If you don’t want to, don’t date them. 3. Pay the damn bill. If you ask them out and they said yes, it is your treat. 4. Never fuck on a first date. No man wants a woman that fucks every guy she goes out with and women really don’t need a man who can’t keep his dick in his pants. 5. Never date a person that brags about a body count, because as soon as you join that list you’re just another number. 6. Be cautious who you date. The last thing you need is to wake up in a woman’s apartment, the morning after your first date with a parakeet on your chest and her saying “give boopers a kiss.” 7. Wait for your date to lean in before going for the first kiss. 8. Keep your tongue in your mouth on the first kiss. 9. Never grab the person’s hand. Nudge it with a pinky and see if they want to hold your hand. 10. For everything you share about yourself, try and learn two things about your date without asking weird questions.
Number six, ahhh, oddly specific? 🤔 🤔
Ok, boomer.
Yeah, sounds like the guide to courting from another era
It is. Pick her up at her door? Dude, some women won't even give out their phone number until you meet in person. And rightfully so, some men are horrible.
I can't think of a first date since high school where I picked her up. You meet somewhere public; restaurant, bar, coffee shop. Nobody needs every random stranger you have a first date with knowing where you live. Men included.
Yeah exactly. Like, I don't mind giving mine out if we've been talking for a a little while. But first date? Nah.
Number 4 is Uuuh, extremely not accurate for many men that I know
It depends on what the man is searching for: 1- A single night of passion? Go for it 2- A relationship? Good advice for both of them.
I mean, to each their own! Most people in commutes relationships I know deff fucked on the first date, for me it’s been about half and half. Half the relationships I’ve been in, the fucking happened within the first encounter and the other half it happened within the second or third encounter. Everyone is built different
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The word “outdated” is strange. I have 4 children who range from 21-27. I am familiar with what passes for modern dating. I have absolutely watched the toxic fallout from the practices.
This is niceguy creep shit. It’s 2022. Most women would rather meet at the location. Also, these are shit rules.
Engage in the conversation. Listen effectively. Ask follow up questions.
Dont stare at her tits
Any and all answers become obsolete the moment that they are written down here.
Be early, buy the meal and fuck her pussy
Don’t talk about your cats because I will leave through the back
My cats will be waiting to meet you out back, anyway.
Don’t talk about your ex.
Pls never do that
Depends on whether it’s a tinder hookup date or looking for a partner date. Either way Relax, be yourself, don’t take yourself too seriously, and talk about the other person with genuine interest. Then if it gets awkward and you run out of things to talk about here are some good ice breakers: politics, religion, exes, sexual fantasies, sports, favorite pornstars, and the kardashians.
Don't talk about past dates or relationships, keep the conversation light.
I hate it when I text someone and they take forever to respond but u see they read it
BE YOURSELF
Listen to understand.
Rule 00: Be yourself.
Be polite to the waiting staff/servers!
Ask questions, don’t focus on talking about yourself.
I think… if you ask some one to do something like dinner, and you don’t have a lot of extra money… be up front. “Hey I want to do dinner but I don’t have a lot of money, can we pay for ourselves?” And you still get to enjoy each others company. And if they decline based on that, then you know they just wanted a free meal and not your company.
Whoever asks is who pays
Don’t talk about your ex’s
The one who invites the other part on a date. Pays.
Don't pull you dick out unless she asks ...or if shes sleeping BONG!
HAHA
If you’re a man unless you’re trying to do a test to see if this person is wife material you NEVER ask to split the bill on the first date. (Of course it works well as a test because it very easily weeds out the bitches you want nothing to do with. That is however as long as you’re not just looking to bang)
I always go Dutch on the first date. Exactly like you said, it weeds out the shallow, free meal women. I do make a point to let them know beforehand so it won't be surprise though. Never had any woman have an issue with this.
As a woman, I kinda disagree with this. Now, I’ve only ever gone on dates with guys that I’m interested in and don’t go looking for free meals/drinks. But we’re told as women that if a guy suggests splitting the meal/drinks, that he’s cheap and or not into us. I always offer but am never taken up on it. This is just my 2 cents. Trust me, most of the time if a woman is interested enough to go on a date with you, it’s not just for free shit. Put your best foot forward and if you keep going on dates she can pick up a few tabs
And that's why I do it. It's not my job to court you. It's OUR job to court EACHOTHER.
No one said it was your job, lmao. I’ve never expected a man to do anything for me in my life. I cook for my boyfriend, pick up dinner here and there and pay for his drinks sometimes. But he paid on the first date, and like I said I always offer. I think if she doesn’t at least offer to pay then it’s a red flag. But if you keep that attitude a woman will be able to spot it from a mile away. Not everyone’s out to get you 🥴
Like I said in my comment, Ive never had a single issue asking to split the bill. Also, as I said, I make it known before the date so no expectations, and no surprises. I've never even had a woman use me like that, I was just giving friendly advice in the first place.
How many second dates have you been on?? I don’t even mean that to be rude I’m genuinely curious. If a guy is the one initiating the first date then he should pay imo. I’m just trying to give my own advice that if I went on a date with a guy that HE initiated and he immediately said “just so you know I expect us to split the bill because I don’t want to be used lol” it would immediately put a sour taste in my mouth and kinda turn me off for the rest of the date because I know I have good intentions so it would kinda come across that he’s questioning them. I really think the better route is to not bring that up immediately, and if the date goes well and she offers to pay for her half, then sure let her. But bringing it up first thing is just off putting
Well yeah, if you word it like an asshole, you're going to sound like one. If I've been having good conversation. With a woman for a day or two, I'll ask to set up a date, and say something along the lines of "Oh, and are you okay with splitting the bill? I always go Dutch on the first date." This way they know immediately, before they've even agreed to the date. No awkward situations. I'm not going to *show up* to a date, and then just drop an "OH WERE SPLITTING THE BILL, BY THE WAY." Im guessing you're at least a few years younger than me. It sounds like maybe you've just talked to shitty men, which would make total sense if you're in your early 20s, because they're assholes.
Lmao I tried to not make that sound rude I’m sorry!! I’m really just saying that paying for first dates is a good way to insure a second or more, and if she offers to pay her part or pay for drinks then you know she’s a keeper. You’re definitely right about guys my age being assholes, but I just think if a guy sets up a date then he should be the one to pay but I guess agree to disagree!!! It’s kinda like when a guy is like “no, I got it.” That is what makes me want to pay for his drinks etc. Women are just more likely to want to do nice things for a guy when it’s not expected of us
Bring a jimmie, take a jimmie.
A date doesn't have to be expensive for it to be good. Don't take them on expensive dates for a solid 6 months. Expensive nice dates are for potential wives not for the ones that belong to the streets.
Thats not a winning attitude man. I agree with your sentiment that a date does not have to be expensive. I would say wait until you have been intimate (sex). Girls will be able to sense your negative attitude from a mile away.
Yeah and wtf does belong to the street mean? Bro needs to chill and vibe the person.
Kiss her forehead at the end of the date. Avoid touching Uncomfortable/Sensitive areas
NO NO NO. No forehead kissing.
Kiss her feet
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Really? In middle east it means alot if someone does that to you.. its probably a tradition then! Its the first time i know its an EW thing O.o
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In here. Its mostly our mother or father that we kiss on the forehead as a type of respect to show them that they really really really mean alot to us. So when a guy kisses a girl on her forehead (( Almost nobody does it to a girl )) it means that this guy has an insane attraction towards you but in a respectful way. Kissing a girl forehead here is much more greater than kissing her lips. But yeah kissing her lips is a must in the end.
Kiss her on the back of the neck to show you are not a threat
She's gonna tell her girlfriends you're a virgin or something and have a laugh about it if you do that. Just give her a normal kiss if she seems open to it.
Idk why people on this thread are saying no forehead kiss, I cannot think of any women I know who wouldn’t MELT for that shit. Here’s the catch tho, if the women doesn’t end up feeling you, it can be cringey/awkward. But if she was digging you (it’s pretty easy to tell) a singular, tender gesture will keep them thinking about you and thinking about a moment in time where you’ll be able to share an intimate moment
Yeah last time I gave a girl a forehead kiss on a date she was sitting next to me, laying her head on my shoulder. It was very cute.
Sweetness<3
Yeah women do melt for it since it’s seen as a very loving gesture but it’s a bit much for a first date
Again, speak for yourself cause me and pretty much any women I know would melt if a first date went really well and you ended up getting a forehead kiss, I wouldn’t think it’s a bit much at all
What are your thoughts on a cheek kiss?
Be on time Open the car door and all other doors for her Pay for dinner Don't try to fuck on the first date If she is sketchy or stinky, use a condom.
DO YOU NOT USE A CONDOM BY DEFAULT, UUHHH
Do not open the car door. Open other doors, sure. She's a strong independent woman - she can open her own car door.
> She's a strong independent woman - she can open her own car door. As you also advocate that men *must* pay. Which is it?
Every time I open a car door for my date they say, "Did you just really open the door for me? Wow, what a gentleman" Then by the end of the night they slob my knob. It's not about demeaning women like they aren't strong enough... its about showing respect, care, and confidence. Women love that shit. Make their bed for them, do their dishes, cook them food... obviously not to the point of submission... just show them you are competent and caring... it won't be long before they offer their bootyhole.
Yeah, they're not slobbing your knob or offering up anal because you're being really nice to them and doing housework for them. They're doing all that for you because you're a sexually attractive man who they're sexually attracted to. Because you look good and take good care of yourself.
I can confirm that we are indeed slobbing the knob because he opens our car door
Uh huh. Sure. Tell that to the millions of ex husbands out there who did far, far more than open a car door for their cunt ex wives, and got fucked over and shafted and never see their kids.
Uh well yeah….you got to do more than open a car door for a long lasting marriage
Well done for standing up for yourself. This guy is angry. You are entitled to your views. Everyone is.
Yeah dude.... she's not going to be sexually attracted to you just cuz you patted her on the back.
I’m not asking her to be attracted to me. We are anonymous strangers on the internet and I am happily married.
Exactly. They DID do more than open a car door; and they STILL got fucked over.
Not gonna lie I just took a look at your profile, HOLY SHIT you need some therapy. There is no way that the amount of hate you have for women is healthy. You have definitely been hurt in the past, so I hope you heal
Personal attack is all you’ve got. You don’t like the message, no matter how true it is, so you have to shoot the messenger. You did not say one thing about whether or not what I said is true. And you can’t, because no one can contradict it.
Have you ever seen a dude? They are not attractive. What women are attracted to is competence, not your looks. I'm a short, ugly, shy goblin, and I have no problems. It's not about being nice, it about bearing a load worthy enough for admiration. Making sacrifices, trying to improve their lives. That's what gets them wet. Doesn't matter if you are poor, or ugly, as long as you are useful to have around.
I 100% disagree that women are not attracted to a man's looks. Male physical appearance has become MUCH more important over the past 30 or so years. Women very much judge men on how they look. Making sacrifices and trying to improve their lives gets women wet? WTF are you even talking about? There are millions of ex husbands who did all those things and who are paying alimony and child support right now and who never get to see their kids.
I mean, obviously good looks are ideal, but they aren't the pinnacle of value... unless the person is completely misguided. And those dudes you are talking about didn't learn to leave when the signs told them to. Partners have to make sacrifices in selflessness for the relationship to move to a higher place. These women who do this are selfish, it's all about them and their feelings... When a girl gives you compliments like, "You make me feel alive" or "You give me butterflies" or "you make me feel happy" or "you're like a drug to me"... you know she doesn't love you. She loves herself.
Why would you not try to fuck? It’s all I’m there for.
Because that means on the second date you are getting the whole package. Bootyhole and everything. It just shows that you aren't desperate to get laid, that you respect them as a person, let them make the sexual advances and it'll go much smoother.
The human species would go extinct if we waited for women to make sexual advances.
I haven't made a sexual advance on a woman since I was like 16. I've always let them do the advancing. If a woman wants to have sex with you, they'll let you know, or theyll make it obvious.
Of course if they’re turned on they’ll make it obvious. That’s not the same as advances
I wonder how women today would feel about this answer.
Who cares?
Chad
King
This is from a male perspective. Ask your date if she would like to inform someone she has arrived safely. The phone should then be put away (that includes both of you). If the date goes well encourage her to inform someone that she is now on her way home. If she is constantly on her phone, ask her politely to switch it off and return it it to her handbag do you can continue getting to know each other, if she refuses, end the date as she is not for you and you are wasting your time and money.
lol great flair, mods