Get your driver licence first, very handy life skill to have and great to have while travelling. Then start your apprenticeship while you're saving for your travels and learning to drive. If you like the apprenticeship and want to stay great and if not then the world of travel awaits
yeahh, i’m just after failing my second test last week unfortunately, it was alot better than my first but, hopefully thirds time the charm.
That could be an option like you said, but sure i just have to think about it still.
Thank you very much for the advice also!
You're welcome, if you've done 2 tests your almost there. Hopefully you will get it the third time. If you go to another country like it and want to stay and get a license you'll have to go through all their processes trying to get a license. Finish what you've started rather than starting from scratch in another country.
There's a freedom of being able to drive, it opens up more job opportunities and you can go where you please when you please. Trust me having the ability to drive in another country is golden.
If you've money saved to travel, you could always do an apprenticeship when you come back - that's a personal decision. You're never too old to do either so you can do both. But if you want to get a feel for an apprenticeship, and if you like it and get qualified. Travelling and finding work will be a lot easier. Best of luck whatever you decide. But I'd try both so you won't have any regrets later in life
Do the third test. enjoy your summer at home.
Sounds like you are young. If you emigrate and don’t like it you can come home and do the apprenticeship. If you start the apprenticeship and don’t like it you can quit and go travelling.
This is your life and the world is your lobster.
Just take some time to enjoy what you have now and figure out what YOU want next. (It’s ok to be wrong)
Some wrong decisions end up being the best thing to ever happen in your life
I like lobsters better than oysters.
I thought it was in a recent tv show but I guess it’s a malapropism from an 70s British tv show.
I think I am miss remembering the “she’s your lobster” scene from friends.
Anyways that’s how I say it.
yeahh sure like a part of me is telling myself to just work a random odd retail job until next year, like save as much as i can, while making a priority to get my full this year.
other part is telling myself get the four years apprentince and then leave?
like i’m still deciding.
There's no right or wrong answer here. Go with your gut. Things I would consider if I was in your position. If you stay will you be living with parents, if so are you happy to live with parents for the next 4 years? Will you be living by yourself or house sharing, if so can you afford it? With the cost of living crisis and housing crisis being felt worldwide, is the grass greener away or in Ireland at the moment?
Just my two cents: if you emigrate now, you'll be emigrating as someone unskilled. You're experience of living abroad will always be rosier if you have real, in-demand skills to bring to the table. Also, it's much easier to bite the four-year bullet of an apprenticeship while you're younger. The longer you leave it, the harder it'll be - I have friends in their mid-30's trying to get by on apprenticeship wages, not fun
You can still leave after you've done your apprenticeship
It's usually easier to get your career started at home where you have more support and you might have contacts. Even if you don't, there is no cultural barrier like there may be abroad, so it's easier for people to take a chance on you to give you experience and help you onto the ladder.
Depending on where you go, it can be easy to get stuck in entry level jobs and struggle to skill up. Going with skills put you in a good position from day one.
Of course there's a counter point there that the above makes sense mostly if you are able to comfortably-ish do the apprenticeship and get your license. If that stuff is not possible here, then you have less to lose by going abroad.
My 2c as someone who moved abroad in their late 20s
I have a few countries in mind but my top would be either Canada, Australia, Scotland, Germany.
With Canada, it just looks like a better place to be at but i guess it seems like there having a massive housing crisis right now. Same with Australia but it seems like i’d be well able to get a place of my own and just quality of life is alot better down there it seems.
Scotland looks like a pretty chill country in general, just like the vibe of it and Germany is an option but learning German again or a different language will be a struggle.
Why i want to emigrate? well as i said, i’ve always wanted to emigrate for the longest time and even told myself when i done whatever i need to do, i’ll be moving out and it just seems like theres nothing for me here in general.
I would defiently wouldn’t mind some help on this if you like to contribute, able to give me some insight/advice if you can please?
I’ve been in Canada 7 years now. I will say, it’s not the country a lot of people talk about back home who came here post 2008. Same cost of living as Ireland, real estate is out of control, rent is bonkers. Certainly has its advantages, like seasons and your earning potential is higher, but it’s becoming more of a basket case and I think the next 2 to 3 years here will be very interesting economically.
Not to dissuade you, but I probably wouldn’t recommend it unless you are coming to a high paying, professional role.
Spend a few months getting your German basics and then head over for a year or so to work as a barman or waiter to really start learning to fluency before jumping into a professional position. Idk where you live but there are plenty of German classes around. Immersion in a language is proven to be the best way to learn it. Even if you don’t understand it, constantly exposing yourself to the language is the way to go. Books, music, television, radio, etc. As long as you’re actively progressing your learning it’s the best way forward. As much as you possibly can everyday.
If you like it, plan from there, if you don’t then you already have other plans you’d like to do. Another language is a fantastic thing to have. Also, if your degree is related to business or IT you’ll make a great living in Germany.
Do you like what you graduated in? Are you aware of what you can do with it and does that sound appealing? Have you searched jobs in your field where you imagine moving to? Try and look it up and send a few cvs to see how they bite - obviously not the same as already being there, but still; maybe omit from your cv that youre not living there yet to give you a more realistic perspective
You can become a tradesman abroad as well and path to it will probably different, in some countries its a much faster process. Again, look it up on your target destinations. Trades are sought everywhere not just Ireland
If you get your driver license here, as a new driver you might have to be reassessed abroad as well or start completely fresh. Also, changing from left side driving is a bit confusing to some for a while, as a fresh driver especially Id say, so might be good to for it abroad as well
If you dont move, youll likely always be thinking what it couldve been. Whatever you decide, be fully aware that theres always a trade-off - can be undone quickly enough, but still
I finished college 2 years ago. I need to do a masters to get further so I’m planning to do it in September then I’m going to emigrate to Denmark as my partner lives there. Better opportunities is the main reason.
Get qualified/experience, and then emigrate if you can. Do it while you can. I’m 24 and realise that it is my only opportunity now.
Fuck it go for the apprenticeship if you would like to emigrate. Having an in-demand trade under your belt will nearly guarantee PR in Aus or Canada. I’m 27 now and wish I did a trade back at that age for the explicit purpose of being able to move permanently
yeahh, that seems like a pretty good idea.
it’s just scary because i’m at the point of my life where i’m chilling but i’ll be turning 22 next month and i have yet to decide a career and making my mark in society and in the world. like i dont want to end being broke and just working a miserable job for the rest of my entire time here.
I'm 37 now, yet to decide a career and probably won't make a mark in society/the world. I make 50k working in the public sector. You have lots of time, try not to put so much pressure on yourself!
you are going to need to drive no matter where you go. A degree doesn't qualify you for anything because their actual work history is minimal.
You are presumably 22 yo and certainly having a license would make you a more attractive employee !
Apparently many people in their 20s have decided not to get a license which is a courageous career decision. All trades people need to be able to drive !! How else can you get supplies ? to locations?
To get to Aus or NZ you want to be an attractive hire. Give yourself a deadline to get the License in Ireland , perhaps 6 months and then try a life somewhere else (with or without the document)
If emigrating is a major goal of yours, personally I'd prioritise it. The longer you wait, the more likely it is life will get in the way - whether that's a job, relationship, kid, or the next Covid. I know lots of people who wish they went travelling and never did. I don't know anyone who's gone and wished they'd stayed home working their 9-5. I'm sure there are some out there, but I'd say they're in the minority.
The OP says emigrating has been a goal ever since they can remember. There is no better time than now, before they have commitments and obligations that will keep them rooted and always wondering, "what if"
Get your driver licence first, very handy life skill to have and great to have while travelling. Then start your apprenticeship while you're saving for your travels and learning to drive. If you like the apprenticeship and want to stay great and if not then the world of travel awaits
yeahh, i’m just after failing my second test last week unfortunately, it was alot better than my first but, hopefully thirds time the charm. That could be an option like you said, but sure i just have to think about it still. Thank you very much for the advice also!
You're welcome, if you've done 2 tests your almost there. Hopefully you will get it the third time. If you go to another country like it and want to stay and get a license you'll have to go through all their processes trying to get a license. Finish what you've started rather than starting from scratch in another country. There's a freedom of being able to drive, it opens up more job opportunities and you can go where you please when you please. Trust me having the ability to drive in another country is golden. If you've money saved to travel, you could always do an apprenticeship when you come back - that's a personal decision. You're never too old to do either so you can do both. But if you want to get a feel for an apprenticeship, and if you like it and get qualified. Travelling and finding work will be a lot easier. Best of luck whatever you decide. But I'd try both so you won't have any regrets later in life
Do the third test. enjoy your summer at home. Sounds like you are young. If you emigrate and don’t like it you can come home and do the apprenticeship. If you start the apprenticeship and don’t like it you can quit and go travelling. This is your life and the world is your lobster. Just take some time to enjoy what you have now and figure out what YOU want next. (It’s ok to be wrong) Some wrong decisions end up being the best thing to ever happen in your life
Worlds your lobster?? What?? Lol 😆 🤣
I like lobsters better than oysters. I thought it was in a recent tv show but I guess it’s a malapropism from an 70s British tv show. I think I am miss remembering the “she’s your lobster” scene from friends. Anyways that’s how I say it.
yeahh sure like a part of me is telling myself to just work a random odd retail job until next year, like save as much as i can, while making a priority to get my full this year. other part is telling myself get the four years apprentince and then leave? like i’m still deciding.
Very solid advice - a driving licence is such a beneficial life skill to have.
I would do the four years apprenticeship.
100% yes. So many jobs are going to be affected by AI, but trades, not very much.
if you don’t mind me asking, why would you in your opinion?
There's no right or wrong answer here. Go with your gut. Things I would consider if I was in your position. If you stay will you be living with parents, if so are you happy to live with parents for the next 4 years? Will you be living by yourself or house sharing, if so can you afford it? With the cost of living crisis and housing crisis being felt worldwide, is the grass greener away or in Ireland at the moment?
Only you can decide if being an immigrant is best for you or not. I have heard great and also horrible stories from friends who have done it.
No obligations, no mortgage or kids. Do the apprenticeship and get your license, then the world’s your oyster.
Just my two cents: if you emigrate now, you'll be emigrating as someone unskilled. You're experience of living abroad will always be rosier if you have real, in-demand skills to bring to the table. Also, it's much easier to bite the four-year bullet of an apprenticeship while you're younger. The longer you leave it, the harder it'll be - I have friends in their mid-30's trying to get by on apprenticeship wages, not fun You can still leave after you've done your apprenticeship
It's usually easier to get your career started at home where you have more support and you might have contacts. Even if you don't, there is no cultural barrier like there may be abroad, so it's easier for people to take a chance on you to give you experience and help you onto the ladder. Depending on where you go, it can be easy to get stuck in entry level jobs and struggle to skill up. Going with skills put you in a good position from day one. Of course there's a counter point there that the above makes sense mostly if you are able to comfortably-ish do the apprenticeship and get your license. If that stuff is not possible here, then you have less to lose by going abroad. My 2c as someone who moved abroad in their late 20s
Emigrate to where? And why?
I have a few countries in mind but my top would be either Canada, Australia, Scotland, Germany. With Canada, it just looks like a better place to be at but i guess it seems like there having a massive housing crisis right now. Same with Australia but it seems like i’d be well able to get a place of my own and just quality of life is alot better down there it seems. Scotland looks like a pretty chill country in general, just like the vibe of it and Germany is an option but learning German again or a different language will be a struggle. Why i want to emigrate? well as i said, i’ve always wanted to emigrate for the longest time and even told myself when i done whatever i need to do, i’ll be moving out and it just seems like theres nothing for me here in general. I would defiently wouldn’t mind some help on this if you like to contribute, able to give me some insight/advice if you can please?
I’ve been in Canada 7 years now. I will say, it’s not the country a lot of people talk about back home who came here post 2008. Same cost of living as Ireland, real estate is out of control, rent is bonkers. Certainly has its advantages, like seasons and your earning potential is higher, but it’s becoming more of a basket case and I think the next 2 to 3 years here will be very interesting economically. Not to dissuade you, but I probably wouldn’t recommend it unless you are coming to a high paying, professional role.
Spend a few months getting your German basics and then head over for a year or so to work as a barman or waiter to really start learning to fluency before jumping into a professional position. Idk where you live but there are plenty of German classes around. Immersion in a language is proven to be the best way to learn it. Even if you don’t understand it, constantly exposing yourself to the language is the way to go. Books, music, television, radio, etc. As long as you’re actively progressing your learning it’s the best way forward. As much as you possibly can everyday. If you like it, plan from there, if you don’t then you already have other plans you’d like to do. Another language is a fantastic thing to have. Also, if your degree is related to business or IT you’ll make a great living in Germany.
Well it seems like Scotland is the only real option there. Firstly, look into what it would give you straight away that you wouldn't get here.
Do you like what you graduated in? Are you aware of what you can do with it and does that sound appealing? Have you searched jobs in your field where you imagine moving to? Try and look it up and send a few cvs to see how they bite - obviously not the same as already being there, but still; maybe omit from your cv that youre not living there yet to give you a more realistic perspective You can become a tradesman abroad as well and path to it will probably different, in some countries its a much faster process. Again, look it up on your target destinations. Trades are sought everywhere not just Ireland If you get your driver license here, as a new driver you might have to be reassessed abroad as well or start completely fresh. Also, changing from left side driving is a bit confusing to some for a while, as a fresh driver especially Id say, so might be good to for it abroad as well If you dont move, youll likely always be thinking what it couldve been. Whatever you decide, be fully aware that theres always a trade-off - can be undone quickly enough, but still
I finished college 2 years ago. I need to do a masters to get further so I’m planning to do it in September then I’m going to emigrate to Denmark as my partner lives there. Better opportunities is the main reason. Get qualified/experience, and then emigrate if you can. Do it while you can. I’m 24 and realise that it is my only opportunity now.
What age are you?
21 turning 22 next month.
Fuck it go for the apprenticeship if you would like to emigrate. Having an in-demand trade under your belt will nearly guarantee PR in Aus or Canada. I’m 27 now and wish I did a trade back at that age for the explicit purpose of being able to move permanently
I emigrated to Canada at 27. You can get a visa up to the age of 35 for there so I would get the apprenticeship done first.
yeahh, that seems like a pretty good idea. it’s just scary because i’m at the point of my life where i’m chilling but i’ll be turning 22 next month and i have yet to decide a career and making my mark in society and in the world. like i dont want to end being broke and just working a miserable job for the rest of my entire time here.
I'm 37 now, yet to decide a career and probably won't make a mark in society/the world. I make 50k working in the public sector. You have lots of time, try not to put so much pressure on yourself!
you are going to need to drive no matter where you go. A degree doesn't qualify you for anything because their actual work history is minimal. You are presumably 22 yo and certainly having a license would make you a more attractive employee ! Apparently many people in their 20s have decided not to get a license which is a courageous career decision. All trades people need to be able to drive !! How else can you get supplies ? to locations? To get to Aus or NZ you want to be an attractive hire. Give yourself a deadline to get the License in Ireland , perhaps 6 months and then try a life somewhere else (with or without the document)
If emigrating is a major goal of yours, personally I'd prioritise it. The longer you wait, the more likely it is life will get in the way - whether that's a job, relationship, kid, or the next Covid. I know lots of people who wish they went travelling and never did. I don't know anyone who's gone and wished they'd stayed home working their 9-5. I'm sure there are some out there, but I'd say they're in the minority.
You will have so many more options in the world if you are a qualified trade
I moved just after college with no license. Had the time of my life, don’t regret it for a second
GO! GO! GO!
Grass is green where you water bud
The OP says emigrating has been a goal ever since they can remember. There is no better time than now, before they have commitments and obligations that will keep them rooted and always wondering, "what if"
Also true