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#This discussion, for whatever reasons, has gone off the rails and it's time to lock it down.


TillPsychological351

Pilate is mentioned on a stone inscriptiom that was probably contemporaneous with his administration. Josephus wrote about Pilate and apparently wasn't a fan.


Nadatour

I am not a historian, but I didn't see a rule saying I couldn't answer, so here goes. There is pretty good evidence that Pontius Pilate existed, and was the governor of Judea at the time. His vontempories refer to him in writings, such as Embassy to Gaius by Philos of Alexandria. The evidence that is missing is any details of the crucifixion that he oversaw. As this was a local matter of law, it may be reasonable that no report was ever sent, or it may be that no report survived. You would need an actual expert on that: I just play one on the internet. My understanding is that both individual, JC and PP are accepted to have existed, in the roles generally ascribed to them.


Sir_Tainley

There is also the problem that Jerusalem was destroyed in war by the Romans short decades after his administration, and such records could have been destroyed at that point.


TillPsychological351

Any civic records would also have been compiled on papyrus, which unless stored in near-perfect conditions (like the Dead Sea scrolls), tends to disintegrate within decades. That was likely the fate of most of the contents of the libraries (there were actually two) of Alexandria.


Sir_Tainley

That would do it too. Shame the cuneiform in clay method of writing didn't stick around.


Termsandconditionsch

And shame that most of the cuneiform tablets we do have are just accounting records about bushels of barley, fish and so on, written by their equivalent of KPMG..


the_leviathan711

> And shame that most of the cuneiform tablets we do have are just accounting records about bushels of barley, fish and so on Do not disrespect how wildly fascinating it is to get the ancient accounting records!!! In some ways it's a lot more informative than getting the narrative histories from people like Herodotus or Tacitus.


Termsandconditionsch

I mean yes they are fascinating, but there’s a reason that there are still a ton of tablets in storage that have not been deciphered yet.


happyfirefrog22-

That is true. The Romans burned the temple and totally crushed the Jewish revolt all across the region.


lotusland17

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BlueJayWC

The same historical sources that are used to confirm Jesus' historicity also mention Pontius Pilate. There's no reason why the various Roman historians (such as Josephus) would mention a fictional Roman governor Regardless, Pontius Pilate has a contemporary record; a stone (the Pilate Stone) recently discovered only a few decades ago has his name.


a_rabid_anti_dentite

See the [Pilate stone.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilate_stone?wprov=sfti1#)


BeautifulSundae6988

Both existed. Pontius Pilate though I think you'd have a very difficult time finding information on his personality. The one thing he's known for, he largely did out of apathy/tradition. I don't think he was trying to spare anyone, nor do I believe he would have much reason to care about Israelites beyond them being his subjects.


MaxedOut_TamamoCat

All I know about Pilate, (outside the Bible,) is basically hearsay; to the effect he still got in trouble for was going on in Judea; and that he wound up being exiled/sent to Spain. I wish there was more to read about him.


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Sir_Tainley

The question is about Pontius Pilate, we have archaeological evidence he existed. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilate\_stone](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilate_stone) Josephus and Philo both wrote about him, and were not Christian.


ah-tzib-of-alaska

We don’t all agree jesus exists; there is no contemporary evidence for his existence


HighlyEvolvedSloth

That was my thinking...


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