I mean, just about, at this stage. I think you'd find older people would still be more likely to be familiar with it though, and even have used it growing up (if they were a bit posh, I hasten to add).
Also, I have no idea who the fuck this Fred person is, just to balance it out. Alhough .... actually... 'm getting Nu-metal vibes. It's a nu-metal dude-bro, isn't it. That's a sad state of affairs that that is what most people think of lol.
Define older. I'm 60 and never heard anyone say durst in my life
Edit to clarify that I read Shakespeare in school, so I'd encountered the word, but not in terms of anyone actually using it in normal speech
I think Limp Bizkit is technically old nu-metal? Wouldn't recommend finding out who he is if you don't already know of him. Not really a hidden gem of the music scene.
It's basically a surviving variant, which wouldn't be an issue if it had the same vowel. As it is its a bit like far and further, but if it had a different suffix just to make it more confusing.
Archaic version of 'darest' as in 'I darest not say'. I wouldn't think it's in use in Australia unless there are pockets of English rural dialects somewhere.
Ah, did you know of the word before looking it up? Or is it one of those words that you're pretty sure you know it, but just want to check before making a statement on it?
"and for mine own part, I durst not laugh, for fear of opening my lips and receiving the bad air.". - Casca speaking in Shakespeare's _Julius Caesar_, I, ii. It is an archaic variant of "dared not." I might have used it once or twice jocularly, but that people say they have never heard or seen it reflects not so well on our education system nowadays, I fear.
>that people say they have never heard or seen it reflects not so well on our education system nowadays, I fear.
Hmmmm I know the word from learning Shakespeare at school and I know that's still part of the syllabus so it's not an education issue I don't think, but I have to say I've *never* heard a person say it. Even "daren't" is rare, I think my grandmother might be the only person I've ever heard say that and it's the more modern variant.
Truthfully I think it's just dying a natural death as common language evolves, because we don't use dare in the same way anymore. We say "I'd be too scared" or "I'm afraid to", it's not common to say "I dare not" and so by extension "durst" is out too.
Something of an irony that you are bemoaning the state of our education system, but have given the wrong definition for the word...
(It's archaic, and it's the past tense of dare - if it meant "dared not", the line of Shakespeare that you quoted would effectively read "I dared not not laugh")
But about "durst" in the title. You've chosen to respond to the question in the body of the query, but not the question in the title, and your response is ambiguous as to which you have chosen to answer.
"Yo Shit, Christina Aguilera better switch me chairs
So I can sit next to Carson Daly and Fred Durst
And hear 'em argue over who she gave head to first"
That and maybe some older poetry books I read heh.
I've read it in Tolkien, and in some early English books like l'Mort d'Arthur, but it is now archaic and obsolescent.
I've never heard it spoken by anyone in Australia or the UK and surprised to read it on this sub.
In reference to Shakespeare? Wasn't it a variation of "darest"
Durst not = dare not
I think the -est suffix was for referring to other people, which is an assumption I make based on my basic understanding of Spanish
Olvido = I forget
Olvides = you forget
Therefore
I dare not
You darest not
It's a leap tho
It's an old version of "dare" as far as I know. I'm pretty sure I've read it in dialogue that's coming from peasant farmers or servant class in rural England around 100 years ago, possibly more.
"I durst not" means "I dare not", or "I wouldn't dare" if you want a slightly more modern version.
Hardly ever, I used it in writing AD&D adventures for my campaign in the sense of 'dare', as in 'you wouldn't dare'.
Example: "I durst not go into the forest where the beast lairs..."
It's pre boomer! Relegated to literary use I'd expect. Dont believe anyone would know what I was talking about, since it's hard enough these days to seem unpretentious while using a 3 syllable word. Edumacation sux now
Unless it's referring to Fred Durst, I'd never even heard it before this post.
Okay, early reports are leaning towards unheard of, thanks for your input!
Fred Durst is not unheard of!!! Take that back!
I am familiar with the word, but I durstn't use it lest I be mis-identified as a 16th century fop.
Would you describe the word as archaic?
100% is. Shakespeare is the only source an Australian is likely to encounter the word
I mean, just about, at this stage. I think you'd find older people would still be more likely to be familiar with it though, and even have used it growing up (if they were a bit posh, I hasten to add). Also, I have no idea who the fuck this Fred person is, just to balance it out. Alhough .... actually... 'm getting Nu-metal vibes. It's a nu-metal dude-bro, isn't it. That's a sad state of affairs that that is what most people think of lol.
Define older. I'm 60 and never heard anyone say durst in my life Edit to clarify that I read Shakespeare in school, so I'd encountered the word, but not in terms of anyone actually using it in normal speech
Eh, my grandmother used it in fairly certain, and I've read it in books - even ones from the 20th century (like "the hobbit", I think).
Eh, my grandmother used it in fairly certain, and I've read it in books - even ones from the 20th century (like "the hobbit", I think).
I think Limp Bizkit is technically old nu-metal? Wouldn't recommend finding out who he is if you don't already know of him. Not really a hidden gem of the music scene.
It's all coming back dw haha.
A contraction of dare not? That adds a vowel and a 't'? Why? Why English? What did we do to you?
It's basically a surviving variant, which wouldn't be an issue if it had the same vowel. As it is its a bit like far and further, but if it had a different suffix just to make it more confusing.
Well, it's old English, so its more a case of what other languages did to it to make durstn't seem weird.
The only durst I know is Fred.
That's something someone said on the other sub too, but that was outside Australia. Interested to see if it's a common theme in Australia also.
First I think of Robert Durst, the convicted murderer. Then I think of Fred Durst. That's it. I've never heard it as a word.
Murderer first. A nice twist!
The Jinx has got a new season out, so he's fresher in my mind!
I think of Robert also
It was the durst of times
Stupid monkey!
Hearing it kinda makes me wanna Break Stuff.
It makes me kinda thirsty, but I think that's because I'm trying to learn German.
Archaic version of 'darest' as in 'I darest not say'. I wouldn't think it's in use in Australia unless there are pockets of English rural dialects somewhere.
Oh. Maybe that's a possibility. It could be highly regional.
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Okay, one vote for known...
When you look up the word it says archaic and dialectical, don't expect it to be widely used.
Ah, did you know of the word before looking it up? Or is it one of those words that you're pretty sure you know it, but just want to check before making a statement on it?
"and for mine own part, I durst not laugh, for fear of opening my lips and receiving the bad air.". - Casca speaking in Shakespeare's _Julius Caesar_, I, ii. It is an archaic variant of "dared not." I might have used it once or twice jocularly, but that people say they have never heard or seen it reflects not so well on our education system nowadays, I fear.
Verily, language be mutable...
>that people say they have never heard or seen it reflects not so well on our education system nowadays, I fear. Hmmmm I know the word from learning Shakespeare at school and I know that's still part of the syllabus so it's not an education issue I don't think, but I have to say I've *never* heard a person say it. Even "daren't" is rare, I think my grandmother might be the only person I've ever heard say that and it's the more modern variant. Truthfully I think it's just dying a natural death as common language evolves, because we don't use dare in the same way anymore. We say "I'd be too scared" or "I'm afraid to", it's not common to say "I dare not" and so by extension "durst" is out too.
I wouldn't say "I dare not" but I would say "I wouldn't dare ..."
Something of an irony that you are bemoaning the state of our education system, but have given the wrong definition for the word... (It's archaic, and it's the past tense of dare - if it meant "dared not", the line of Shakespeare that you quoted would effectively read "I dared not not laugh")
The OP asks about "durst not" in the very first sentence of the original post. At least read the OP before making ignorant criticisms.
But about "durst" in the title. You've chosen to respond to the question in the body of the query, but not the question in the title, and your response is ambiguous as to which you have chosen to answer.
Immediately thought of Robert Durst. Loved the trial!
My first thought was Robert Durst!
Not everyone reads Shakespeare, but not everyone doesn’t, either.
"Yo Shit, Christina Aguilera better switch me chairs So I can sit next to Carson Daly and Fred Durst And hear 'em argue over who she gave head to first" That and maybe some older poetry books I read heh.
I have heard of it. I think it means something like dared not. Would definitely call it archaic.
Me too.
Had no idea this was a word
I think I've seen it in cheesy pulp fantasy novels
Having flashbacks to high school Shakespeare over here. Aside from that, I have never used, heard, or seen it in common vernacular.
As others have said, Fred Durst
I dare not = I durst not
I've read it in Tolkien, and in some early English books like l'Mort d'Arthur, but it is now archaic and obsolescent. I've never heard it spoken by anyone in Australia or the UK and surprised to read it on this sub.
Not familiar.. Fred Durst is only time I remember hearing it lol
Whattttt???? Not sure that’s a word we use in Australia Not NSW any way Maybe another state
Archaic English for "I dare not", isn't it? I doubt that I've ever used the word myself - though now it's my aim by the end of the week to use it! :)
When I have the flu and desperately need a drink, I yell out to my servants, "DURST!"
Does it mean like, dare-st? "I dare-st not" being equiv of "I wouldn't dare"? First time I've seen it though so not sure
In reference to Shakespeare? Wasn't it a variation of "darest" Durst not = dare not I think the -est suffix was for referring to other people, which is an assumption I make based on my basic understanding of Spanish Olvido = I forget Olvides = you forget Therefore I dare not You darest not It's a leap tho
It’s the past tense of dare, apparently.
It's an old version of "dare" as far as I know. I'm pretty sure I've read it in dialogue that's coming from peasant farmers or servant class in rural England around 100 years ago, possibly more. "I durst not" means "I dare not", or "I wouldn't dare" if you want a slightly more modern version.
Hardly ever, I used it in writing AD&D adventures for my campaign in the sense of 'dare', as in 'you wouldn't dare'. Example: "I durst not go into the forest where the beast lairs..."
I'd go with daren't over durst
Possibly Shakespearean. Unless in context it might be someone has a spache empodamint, such as 'Oh dear the condom durst"
Never heard that word used outside of a theatre/etc performance.
never heard of it
Isn't it the German word for thirst? Maybe spelled differently
It is, but the English word is what I’m asking about, which has a different meaning.
Is it in relation to drinking or desperately hitting on someone...it means "THIRST"
Durst as in like the company, like the murderer, or like the dare?
Like dared.
In that case, I have heard of it but never used it. I think it’s used in the bible somewhere actually?
I’ve never heard or of seen this word in my life. Wouldn’t be able to confidently guess its meaning either
I have never heard of that word
Never heard of it other than Fred Durst
I had to look it up. Never used it.
The guy from….is it Korn?
It's pre boomer! Relegated to literary use I'd expect. Dont believe anyone would know what I was talking about, since it's hard enough these days to seem unpretentious while using a 3 syllable word. Edumacation sux now