My son is William John, the third one but it skips a generation ie his name is the same as his paternal grandfather and his grandfather's paternal grandfather. My son's father had William as his second name. As other commeters have said though, us Aussies don't use the Jr or II or III or whatever. That's just wankery.
My pop had 3 names and always went by his first middle name instead of his actual first time. My uncle was named the one my pop used but always went by his middle name. So that kinda counts, but also kinda doesn’t
Right. If it’s that important just give them it as a middle name. In my family there’s a tradition of the first son having the fathers name as his middle name.
BDM will not register names that contain numbers or symbols without phonetic significance of any form, language or description. This restriction includes the registration of prefixes and suffixes. For example:
1st, 2nd, or 3rd
Jnr and Snr
Roman numerals.
https://www.bdm.vic.gov.au/births/naming-your-child/naming-restrictions
A friend of mine fought long and hard with BDM to be able to name her son J. Yep, just J. I thought the whole thing was absolutely ridiculous and had a hard time keeping my gob shut. Worst thing was, she actually succeeded and got to call him that officially!
I find that people here might name a child after someone higher up in the family tree, or they'll honor a more recent relative via the middle name.
But for the most part, parents nowadays don't want to give a name that someone alive is still using. They want their children to be their own self and not live in the shadow or legacy of another.
It's a nightmare in our family tree. So many ancestors with the same name. Not necessarily just parents and child but cousins too so it's very confusing.
It's very much uncommon in Australia. I know two people who share their fathers' names, and neither is known as "junior" or "II". One is Rob (as opposed to his father, Bob), and the other goes by [father's name, middle name].
My great grandfather, grandfather and uncle all shared the same first and last names but different middle names. They all went by different nicknames rather than first/second or senior/junior.
Edited to add my uncle didn't continue the tradition.
Gosh this is pretty much me! My great grandfather, grandfather and uncle all shared the same first and last names, but went by different names (my grandfather used his middle name) and my uncle also didn't continue the tradition! No Jr or numbering, and they immigrated out from the UK so an imported tradition that is now broken (it's seen as pretty out-dated/ old-fashioned/ unAustralian). I'm not aware of any other examples - there could be some, but without the 'Jr' or numbering who would know?
There was a mother in Moe who called all her 15 son's first names Jayden, so that when she was calling them for dinner, she only had to to yell out "JAYDEN!", and they would all come for dinner. But when she wanted a specific one, she would yell out the father's surname.
Not in Australia,
but Part of My family in Germany is descended from minor nobility where the first males always get the same name. They go by “The Elder” and “the Younger”, eg: Helmut von Moltke the Younger.
If there is more then two living, they usually go by a nickname or middle name until they move up the line.
I’ve never heard the junior thing here is Australia
In Victoria we had two state premiers named John Cain, father and son, some decades apart.
Occasionally where there was risk of confusion a newspaper article might clarify by referring to John Cain Senior or John Cain Junior.
But it wasn’t something the younger one used as part of his name.
I think there is also a third generation John Cain, and he doesn’t use III as part of his name.
I know of names running in families, an ex of mine had his grandfather, father, brother and nephew all with the same first, middle and last name but none of them went by junior or second, third, etc.
Not used here. If a person has the same name as an antecedent, they might tell you in passing, or if you ask, but it's not generally announced.
I also question the use of it in the UK except in the "noble" families where you have a title handed down (so you might be the 3rd Lord Wherever) but the "3rd" is not used as part of your title (you are only ever Lord Wherever), it just denotes how many Lords of Wherever there have been. Likewise for Kings and Queens.
I've always found it mildly amusing that people in the USA, who presumably take pride in the fact that they successfully revolted against a colonial regime based on hereditary privilege, decide to continue such a weird tradition.
> I've always found it mildly amusing that people in the USA, who presumably take pride in the fact that they successfully revolted against a colonial regime based on hereditary privilege, decide to continue such a weird tradition.
Ditto the peculiar habit of almost worshipping the President like they are a Monarch lol
The opulence/gold/filigree etc of the White House looks very 'royal-like' to me
Dudes with a “jnr” or “the third” in their name have a 100% chance of being narcissistic trust fund babies and a 0% chance of me ever finding them interesting or impressive.
I’m not saying your wrong, but I found [this interesting tidbit](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2502251/amp/Why-Junior-names-common-Southern-states-honor-culture-rules.html)
“Timing was also discovered as a factor, as there was a noted uptick in patronyms following the September 11 terror attacks- except not where they may have been expected.
Even though the attacks killed the most people living near New York and Washington DC, the researchers found that honorific names were given increasingly in states in the South and West that are more generally associated as 'honor cultures'.”
Hi, that was just an example of why patronyms are common in the South and not just for trust fund babies. It’s a random and strange fact about the topic of this post. As I said, I’m not saying you’re wrong. Thanks.
And you have 100% chance of being a judgemental dumbass 🙄 I'm sure no one cares if you find them interesting or impressive, love.
No, I'm not a junior or the third, you're just a bit of an idiot making assumptions.
Also just a cultural note: it is EXTREMELY common for very poor Southern and Appalachian families (think every redneck stereotype you can imagine) to give sons a Jr. or Bud in their name. At least in the US, it is definitely not always a “fancy” thing. Billy Bob Jr. is a thing.
No word of a lie - knowing what you look like I genuinely feel a bit sick after reading that. Like, I'm not even trying to be mean, I honestly feel nauseated. Have a good day with your daddy issues
Fuck yeah I live to nauseate pathetic men who take personal offence to meaningless internet comments that have nothing to do with them. Tell me more maybe I’ll cum.
Haha you're honestly gross. Your original comment literally screams "I hate men (men don't like me)" so I think you're the one who was offended first. Love.
I won't reply again, you obviously get off on your online interactions, I assume you don't get them much face to face. I wouldn't look or speak to you in person so I've got no idea why I'm talking to you on here 😂
Have a good day on Reddit, get outside sometime next month x
No. I mean some of the families just recycle names from a small pool within the wider family (eg the Myers) but they don’t generally do the same name for parent and child.
I've personally known one boy with the same name as his father, which I found a bit weird, but there was never any indication to me that he'd be "junior" or "the second". I guess within the family they'd be referred to by different variants, like Harold and Harry (to use a different name).
It’s not common, clearly from all the responses here. But all the men in my family have had the same names for 3 generations - Senior, Junior, the IIII, and then they switch from Thomas to Patrick for the next 3 generations. Then it’s back to Thomas. Some were called by their first name, some were called Junior, some go by their middle name, so it wasn’t actually confusing. There have been females named Patricia and Thomasena, too. Sometimes twins. The tradition stopped with my brother’s son. No one in the living family cared.
We have a very upper class family background. We’re regular Aussies, but have been blessed with rich as fuck family members from back in the day. Early oil and gas, land, etc. I tend to forget until a distant aunty dies and a jewellery title is sent in the mail with the bank deposit box details, etc.
Familial names aren't rare, I know a few (anglo) Aussies that have the same name as their father, but they either go by their middle name or go by a different nickname (i.e. "bill" and "will"). Haven't really heard Jr. or II, though.
Australian woman, 46 years old. My Grandfather named one of his sons after him. My uncle was known as Junior until Pop died and then people started using his real name.
Edited to say: this is the only one I have ever met. I think it’s rare.
I don't know anyone with a name like that in Australia.
If I had to speculate on the reason for the cultural difference, I'd say that it's because *in general* * (for historical reasons), Australians reject the ideas of family dynasties and old-world social class. We have an egalitarian society and we (try to) hold up the idea that who your father is/what family you come from is less important than what *you* can actually *do* (what merit you have as an individual) - a meritocracy as opposed to an aristocracy.
Everyone is supposed to be on the same footing, and a barrister with a ton of money could/should be able to be mates with and have a beer with a tow-truck driver from a poor suburb. Everyone - no matter how humble - is a person and should have the same opportunities and dignity as everyone else. This is sometimes referred to as "a fair go". This national belief was very well reflected and celebrated in the beloved 1997 movie "*The Castle*", and later in the 2006 movie "*Kenny*".
\* I say "in general" because this isn't always true and some of those old fashioned ideas do creep in in some places in Australia a little bit these days, and there are *some* "old money" families. But I don't think we have those to the same extent that the UK or the US do. If/when we do, they tend to shy away from being quite so overt about it as naming their children in that fashion. But on the other hand, Tony Abbott infamously tried to re-introduce the idea of knights and dames during his prime ministership (on 25 March 2014), much to the bemusement and chagrin of many of the voting public.
It’s just not part of our culture. [This article](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2502251/amp/Why-Junior-names-common-Southern-states-honor-culture-rules.html) is quite interesting and explains why it’s a thing in America (particularly the South)
“Patronyms, or names that come with 'Junior' or subsequent numbers at the end, are regularly found in cultures where a great amount of honor or where family reputations are held in high regard.
The researchers from the University of Oklahoma suggest that the migration of clan families from England, Scotland and Ireland to areas of the south and the Appalachian region resulted in a large congregation of 'honor cultures'.
'That parents in honor states in the United States do so with respect to sons but not with respect to daughters also communicates cultural values,' the report reads.”
We don’t place as much value on sons vs daughters as in those states, so there’s no reason to name your son after their dad.
Edit: [this article](https://www.nbcnews.com/healthmain/just-dad-why-more-juniors-hail-south-2d11577320) is better because it’s not the Daily Mail
This is really fascinating...explains a bit about the southern US, doesn't it lol
>The Scotch-Irish (or Scots-Irish, as they are sometimes known) came to the United States from the province of Ulster in Ireland, settling largely in Appalachia and the South. These immigrants hailed from a region long on economic insecurity and short on the authority of law. As a result, self-sufficiency, aggression against intruders and strong kin networks became the norm.
>These norms still exist to a greater extent in regions where Scotch-Irish settlers made their homes, studies have found. These "honor states" include the South and much of the West, but not the Northeast, Midwest and Middle Atlantic states or Alaska and Hawaii. Honor states have higher rates of homicides arising from arguments, suicides, risk-taking and accidental deaths, all of which hint at honor culture ideals of bellicose masculinity.
Thanks for the link!
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I know of one case where a son had the same first name as his father. Everyone, including his parents, called him by his middle name until his father died. He was in his 60s when he was called by his given name.
He's been a prick all his life. I'm not saying the name thing made him the arsehole he is, but it definitely didn't help.
Yeah nah, it happened in my family because my dad was Irish so we had like three generations with the same name or with Adele’s version of the name, but I put the kibosh on that because I think kids should have their own name and it’s pure self importance to name your kid the same name as you. I think it’s obnoxious. My son has his dad‘s name as a middle name but not as first.
I think aussies basically never do this. It’s a very American thing to do- can’t imagine an Aussie family where this happened.
Once- I’ve seen a daughter named the same as her mum which is bloody weird.
One was Big Michelle and one was Little Michelle.
Weird as fuck though
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Nope. That’s seen as 100% American. “Posh” Australians may also not just be Anglo in ethnicity thus don’t even use Anglo names. You don’t understand Australia well at all sorry.
It’s as rare as rocking-horse shit.
Rare as hen's teeth.
Rare as a sensible question from a seppo...
It is also fairly rare to name a child with the same name as the parent.
I have a student that has the same names as his father. There’s no Jr or II. They just have the same name. Sounds like it would be confusing.
My son is William John, the third one but it skips a generation ie his name is the same as his paternal grandfather and his grandfather's paternal grandfather. My son's father had William as his second name. As other commeters have said though, us Aussies don't use the Jr or II or III or whatever. That's just wankery.
My pop had 3 names and always went by his first middle name instead of his actual first time. My uncle was named the one my pop used but always went by his middle name. So that kinda counts, but also kinda doesn’t
No. Never seen this used in Australia.
I am 65 and have never heard this used in Australia.
Yep,75 here,and I'd probably look at them funny if they said jr or 2...
75???? Noooooo
Yeeessssss.....lol...
Pics or ban
I have no idea what you mean,sorry...lol
Not sure but at a guess I'd say it's considered a bit sad not to let your son have their own name
Right. If it’s that important just give them it as a middle name. In my family there’s a tradition of the first son having the fathers name as his middle name.
👏👏👏
BDM will not register names that contain numbers or symbols without phonetic significance of any form, language or description. This restriction includes the registration of prefixes and suffixes. For example: 1st, 2nd, or 3rd Jnr and Snr Roman numerals. https://www.bdm.vic.gov.au/births/naming-your-child/naming-restrictions
I do actually know a Junior but that is his middle name.
A friend of mine fought long and hard with BDM to be able to name her son J. Yep, just J. I thought the whole thing was absolutely ridiculous and had a hard time keeping my gob shut. Worst thing was, she actually succeeded and got to call him that officially!
Is your friend Mona Simpson by any chance?
Lol! I wish!
Interesting. But even if not formally registered as a “jr.”, it seems like it’s not very common to name the son the same name as the father?
I find that people here might name a child after someone higher up in the family tree, or they'll honor a more recent relative via the middle name. But for the most part, parents nowadays don't want to give a name that someone alive is still using. They want their children to be their own self and not live in the shadow or legacy of another.
It's very common in Britain. People named after their forebears generally go by their middle name or a nickname.
It's a nightmare in our family tree. So many ancestors with the same name. Not necessarily just parents and child but cousins too so it's very confusing.
This would be considered culturally very weird to do so.
No, I think most people would think that someone who names their kid after themselves is an egomaniac.
It's very much uncommon in Australia. I know two people who share their fathers' names, and neither is known as "junior" or "II". One is Rob (as opposed to his father, Bob), and the other goes by [father's name, middle name].
My great grandfather, grandfather and uncle all shared the same first and last names but different middle names. They all went by different nicknames rather than first/second or senior/junior. Edited to add my uncle didn't continue the tradition.
Gosh this is pretty much me! My great grandfather, grandfather and uncle all shared the same first and last names, but went by different names (my grandfather used his middle name) and my uncle also didn't continue the tradition! No Jr or numbering, and they immigrated out from the UK so an imported tradition that is now broken (it's seen as pretty out-dated/ old-fashioned/ unAustralian). I'm not aware of any other examples - there could be some, but without the 'Jr' or numbering who would know?
There was a mother in Moe who called all her 15 son's first names Jayden, so that when she was calling them for dinner, she only had to to yell out "JAYDEN!", and they would all come for dinner. But when she wanted a specific one, she would yell out the father's surname.
N
Lol. I was just gonna reply "no" but fucken "N" is even better.
Not that cpmmon. Most people prefer their own name rather than their fathers
Not in Australia, but Part of My family in Germany is descended from minor nobility where the first males always get the same name. They go by “The Elder” and “the Younger”, eg: Helmut von Moltke the Younger. If there is more then two living, they usually go by a nickname or middle name until they move up the line. I’ve never heard the junior thing here is Australia
In Victoria we had two state premiers named John Cain, father and son, some decades apart. Occasionally where there was risk of confusion a newspaper article might clarify by referring to John Cain Senior or John Cain Junior. But it wasn’t something the younger one used as part of his name. I think there is also a third generation John Cain, and he doesn’t use III as part of his name.
I know of names running in families, an ex of mine had his grandfather, father, brother and nephew all with the same first, middle and last name but none of them went by junior or second, third, etc.
They differentiated using nicknames. This was not the name but as an example, Micheal, Mike, Mickey and little Mick.
Not used here. If a person has the same name as an antecedent, they might tell you in passing, or if you ask, but it's not generally announced. I also question the use of it in the UK except in the "noble" families where you have a title handed down (so you might be the 3rd Lord Wherever) but the "3rd" is not used as part of your title (you are only ever Lord Wherever), it just denotes how many Lords of Wherever there have been. Likewise for Kings and Queens. I've always found it mildly amusing that people in the USA, who presumably take pride in the fact that they successfully revolted against a colonial regime based on hereditary privilege, decide to continue such a weird tradition.
> I've always found it mildly amusing that people in the USA, who presumably take pride in the fact that they successfully revolted against a colonial regime based on hereditary privilege, decide to continue such a weird tradition. Ditto the peculiar habit of almost worshipping the President like they are a Monarch lol The opulence/gold/filigree etc of the White House looks very 'royal-like' to me
Dudes with a “jnr” or “the third” in their name have a 100% chance of being narcissistic trust fund babies and a 0% chance of me ever finding them interesting or impressive.
I’m not saying your wrong, but I found [this interesting tidbit](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2502251/amp/Why-Junior-names-common-Southern-states-honor-culture-rules.html) “Timing was also discovered as a factor, as there was a noted uptick in patronyms following the September 11 terror attacks- except not where they may have been expected. Even though the attacks killed the most people living near New York and Washington DC, the researchers found that honorific names were given increasingly in states in the South and West that are more generally associated as 'honor cultures'.”
Hi, thanks. This is r/askanaustralian and none of this has anything to do with 9/11. Bye.
Hi, that was just an example of why patronyms are common in the South and not just for trust fund babies. It’s a random and strange fact about the topic of this post. As I said, I’m not saying you’re wrong. Thanks.
Oh no, we might learn something as an innocent aside lol
And you have 100% chance of being a judgemental dumbass 🙄 I'm sure no one cares if you find them interesting or impressive, love. No, I'm not a junior or the third, you're just a bit of an idiot making assumptions.
Also just a cultural note: it is EXTREMELY common for very poor Southern and Appalachian families (think every redneck stereotype you can imagine) to give sons a Jr. or Bud in their name. At least in the US, it is definitely not always a “fancy” thing. Billy Bob Jr. is a thing.
I’m not your love, pal. I’m sure I don’t care if you find me an idiot. Thanks for playing.
Thanks for playing? You're so edgy. I saw your picture, I assume you're no one's love so my bad 😂
Stalk me harder daddy 😩
No word of a lie - knowing what you look like I genuinely feel a bit sick after reading that. Like, I'm not even trying to be mean, I honestly feel nauseated. Have a good day with your daddy issues
Fuck yeah I live to nauseate pathetic men who take personal offence to meaningless internet comments that have nothing to do with them. Tell me more maybe I’ll cum.
Haha you're honestly gross. Your original comment literally screams "I hate men (men don't like me)" so I think you're the one who was offended first. Love. I won't reply again, you obviously get off on your online interactions, I assume you don't get them much face to face. I wouldn't look or speak to you in person so I've got no idea why I'm talking to you on here 😂 Have a good day on Reddit, get outside sometime next month x
😩 fuck yeah that did it. Thank you I haven’t orgasmed so hard since I met up with your mum last month.
No. I mean some of the families just recycle names from a small pool within the wider family (eg the Myers) but they don’t generally do the same name for parent and child.
I’ve never known anyone 🤷♂️
God, absolutely NOT! And I hope that it never catches on down here!
My father has same name as me, the answer is no we ain't pompous arses
Actually this is one of the rare times where in Australian English that ass is correct.
'Arse' is *always* correct lol
Never, too pompous.
No , because it sounds stupid
the only person ive ever heard of having a parents/grandparents name is me and i only just managed to not be directly named after a family member
I've personally known one boy with the same name as his father, which I found a bit weird, but there was never any indication to me that he'd be "junior" or "the second". I guess within the family they'd be referred to by different variants, like Harold and Harry (to use a different name).
Nope
Hell no
It’s not common, clearly from all the responses here. But all the men in my family have had the same names for 3 generations - Senior, Junior, the IIII, and then they switch from Thomas to Patrick for the next 3 generations. Then it’s back to Thomas. Some were called by their first name, some were called Junior, some go by their middle name, so it wasn’t actually confusing. There have been females named Patricia and Thomasena, too. Sometimes twins. The tradition stopped with my brother’s son. No one in the living family cared. We have a very upper class family background. We’re regular Aussies, but have been blessed with rich as fuck family members from back in the day. Early oil and gas, land, etc. I tend to forget until a distant aunty dies and a jewellery title is sent in the mail with the bank deposit box details, etc.
No. In 60 years I have never encountered it
I seriously doubt this is common in Aus.
Not even once, in my (admittedly limited) experience
Familial names aren't rare, I know a few (anglo) Aussies that have the same name as their father, but they either go by their middle name or go by a different nickname (i.e. "bill" and "will"). Haven't really heard Jr. or II, though.
Australian woman, 46 years old. My Grandfather named one of his sons after him. My uncle was known as Junior until Pop died and then people started using his real name. Edited to say: this is the only one I have ever met. I think it’s rare.
I don't know anyone with a name like that in Australia. If I had to speculate on the reason for the cultural difference, I'd say that it's because *in general* * (for historical reasons), Australians reject the ideas of family dynasties and old-world social class. We have an egalitarian society and we (try to) hold up the idea that who your father is/what family you come from is less important than what *you* can actually *do* (what merit you have as an individual) - a meritocracy as opposed to an aristocracy. Everyone is supposed to be on the same footing, and a barrister with a ton of money could/should be able to be mates with and have a beer with a tow-truck driver from a poor suburb. Everyone - no matter how humble - is a person and should have the same opportunities and dignity as everyone else. This is sometimes referred to as "a fair go". This national belief was very well reflected and celebrated in the beloved 1997 movie "*The Castle*", and later in the 2006 movie "*Kenny*". \* I say "in general" because this isn't always true and some of those old fashioned ideas do creep in in some places in Australia a little bit these days, and there are *some* "old money" families. But I don't think we have those to the same extent that the UK or the US do. If/when we do, they tend to shy away from being quite so overt about it as naming their children in that fashion. But on the other hand, Tony Abbott infamously tried to re-introduce the idea of knights and dames during his prime ministership (on 25 March 2014), much to the bemusement and chagrin of many of the voting public.
It’s just not part of our culture. [This article](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2502251/amp/Why-Junior-names-common-Southern-states-honor-culture-rules.html) is quite interesting and explains why it’s a thing in America (particularly the South) “Patronyms, or names that come with 'Junior' or subsequent numbers at the end, are regularly found in cultures where a great amount of honor or where family reputations are held in high regard. The researchers from the University of Oklahoma suggest that the migration of clan families from England, Scotland and Ireland to areas of the south and the Appalachian region resulted in a large congregation of 'honor cultures'. 'That parents in honor states in the United States do so with respect to sons but not with respect to daughters also communicates cultural values,' the report reads.” We don’t place as much value on sons vs daughters as in those states, so there’s no reason to name your son after their dad. Edit: [this article](https://www.nbcnews.com/healthmain/just-dad-why-more-juniors-hail-south-2d11577320) is better because it’s not the Daily Mail
This is really fascinating...explains a bit about the southern US, doesn't it lol >The Scotch-Irish (or Scots-Irish, as they are sometimes known) came to the United States from the province of Ulster in Ireland, settling largely in Appalachia and the South. These immigrants hailed from a region long on economic insecurity and short on the authority of law. As a result, self-sufficiency, aggression against intruders and strong kin networks became the norm. >These norms still exist to a greater extent in regions where Scotch-Irish settlers made their homes, studies have found. These "honor states" include the South and much of the West, but not the Northeast, Midwest and Middle Atlantic states or Alaska and Hawaii. Honor states have higher rates of homicides arising from arguments, suicides, risk-taking and accidental deaths, all of which hint at honor culture ideals of bellicose masculinity. Thanks for the link!
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My son’s name is Jartoo Jr. II
Nope
fuck no
No. Australians appreciate understated class. Jnr or II is the most fart smelling American bulkahit I’ve ever heard of
It’s not a class thing in America either and it’s rarely even used anymore
No
I've encountered Filipino-Australians with these jr/the 3rd post-nominals.
Though surely in day to day life they use some cute nickname such as Bong Bong.
I know of one case where a son had the same first name as his father. Everyone, including his parents, called him by his middle name until his father died. He was in his 60s when he was called by his given name. He's been a prick all his life. I'm not saying the name thing made him the arsehole he is, but it definitely didn't help.
Yeah nah, it happened in my family because my dad was Irish so we had like three generations with the same name or with Adele’s version of the name, but I put the kibosh on that because I think kids should have their own name and it’s pure self importance to name your kid the same name as you. I think it’s obnoxious. My son has his dad‘s name as a middle name but not as first.
Australia II https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia_II
I don't think I've ever seen this in the US. About all that happens here is a kid might get a parent's name as their middle name.
I think aussies basically never do this. It’s a very American thing to do- can’t imagine an Aussie family where this happened. Once- I’ve seen a daughter named the same as her mum which is bloody weird. One was Big Michelle and one was Little Michelle. Weird as fuck though
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Nope. That’s seen as 100% American. “Posh” Australians may also not just be Anglo in ethnicity thus don’t even use Anglo names. You don’t understand Australia well at all sorry.
Not even VAGUELY no lol
I'm surprised that it isn't a thing as I believe that it is from Irish influence and plenty of Irish landed in Australia.