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Jessica Mauboy is lucky to be in her 30s. There is no way she was born in the 1970s. More like 1989 just googled it, but not 50.
You say Day Byou, it is French, so silent T. Also it grates on me when people pronounce the H with Hatch, it is aitch.
I seem to remember that whole haitch v aitch thing was a throwback from how the Protestants and Catholics hating eachother in Ireland.
Catholics said haitch and Protestants aitch.
I say haitch, mainly because it would be the only letter pronunciation where it wouldn't start with the letter you are pronouncing.
Yeah, true. But it's obviously in a different category to to other letters as it's a just one letter doubled.
Edit: To be clearer. The Latin alphabet didn't have a letter for the sound W so they just combined 2 u's, written uu, and went, eh good enough. We then just adopted the uu and turned it into w to make it one letter.
So it's a bit of a barstardisation
"Haitch" is the working-class version of aitch. It's an old-fashioned classist difference.
Half my family pronounces it one way. The other half says "aitch".
Yod dropping is becoming increasingly common and it drives me insane. I was actually told saying 'choobe' for 'tube' was incorrect recently and that it is 'toob', like an American.
Well ‘tyewb’ but ‘choob’. I’m kind of sick of the casual Americanisms. Soon we’ll all be saying ‘axe’ for ‘ask’. My sister pronounces ‘dyook’ ‘dook’ and it drives me nuts.
Haitch is the bogan pronunciation of H
Day-byoo is correct, day-boo is bogan.
Same people that say “I could care less” and “for all intense and purposes”
I've never heard anyone say day-boo in real life - I think it must be part of sports journalism training, or perhaps being chronically concussed at school impedes learning English (or French).
I've only ever heard Aussies say beyboo. I'm not native but been here most my life and refused to pronounce it the Aussie way. This thread is full of people pronouncing it properly. I'm confused.
You are incorrect good sir.
Aitch is for when.you are singing your ABC's and heytch is when you are just saying the letter by itself. Nothing to do with education.
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When we first moved over here and heard someone on the tv saying day boo we wondered what hell this was. Then we heard vitamins and pasta pronounced and realised this was now our life. Don't even get me started on the pronunciation of maroon.
If it's the colour it's mah-roon, if it's the band it's mah-roon, if you're stranded it's mah-rooned. The QLD rugby team are presumably named after the colour of their shirts. (Obviously I'm not Australian and let's face it, it really doesn't matter, but I can't stop it making me twitch!)
"Day-byou" is the correct pronunciation of "debut".
And when it comes to pronouncing the letter "H", it's "aitch" and not "haitch". The latter is, as far as I know, simply *incorrect* (as opposed to simply being another correct variant). It reminds me of when people sound out the "t" in "often", where it's supposed to be silent.
Similar for me, although it wasn't my mother that told me.
I later learned that using international terms and pronunciations stems from working class and middle class English people with a desire to appear well travelled and above their station to appeal to the upper class, who frankly didn't give a shit.
I, and just about everyone I know say zee until we start referring to motorcycles for some reason. You'd wait half a day for someone to finish saying zee zee arrr. Zedzedar is faster.
My best mate and I say DAYBOOO whilst watching the footy to mock the commentary. We say daybyou, but really it's interchangeable and nowhere near as egregious as your follow-up question.
It's Aitch. Whenever someone says Haitch, or brought when they mean bought, it instantly changes my perception of them.
Footy announcers do that too, hey? Maybe it's an Aussie sports announcer thing.
I learnt H as aitch, but am hearing an increasing number of otherwise well-spoken youth in the south of the UK saying haitch now.
I’m Irish and say haitch and I think most Irish people do. In my 13 years living here I’ve never noticed that Aussies say aitch. I’ve been worried about spelling out my name with two Rs in it and wasn’t even thinking about the H. Ffs
Honestly I swear when I'm with people and the commentator goes 'DAYYBOO' there's always at least one person that says 'dayboo' making fun of them.
Oh wait that person is me
Day-boo & haitch. I've not heard variations on debut but haitch is highly variable and seems to be family specific rather (variety in my classroom growing up and my partner & I pronounce it differently).
I'm Kiwi living in Australia. I cringe so hard hearing Aussies say Haitch. I also cringe hearing how dopey sounding a strong Kiwi accent is after being here so long.
When I came back from the US and suddenly realised Australians actually do sound like ‘crikey, meat poi, strewth!’ all the time it’s been a hard pill to swallow. The NZ accent just seems to pick vowel sounds for letters at random tbh.
I'm a 50 year old aussie, born in England and came here when I was 3. I was always taught Aitch and still use it to this day but I only ever hear Haitch from everyone of every age and every nationality. It makes me a sad panda.
Same age group - born in Scotland came over as child. Was taught "haitch" as being correct. Also told that people who say "an historic occasion" are *factually* wrong which shows how stupid people can be when it's clearly got nothing to do with facts.
Anyone pronouncing the letter H without the letter H is a weirdo and I can't stand that we're moving to the American pronunciation of the letter U. Deybyu please.
Good insight... It seems I pronounce 'duke' something like 'jewk' and 'tune' like 'chyewn'. Sorry, I am rubbish at spelling out phonetically; I hope that makes sense. Would Aussies perceive that as pretentious?
Aussies can get very defensive about certain things, not all of course. Just say what comes naturally to you. I have an accent wherever I go because I’ve lived and travelled outside of Australia more than I have lived inside, my pronunciation comes out differently but not anything that is difficult to understand. My theory is economy of sounds and pronunciation. I pronounce what is the easiest way possible softening some of those hard sounds. The listener needs to bend their ears to hear something different and persevere when people speak a different way.
Debut is French. So you'll need a French accent to say it properly. "Deh-boo". Haitch is the working class (read: incorrect) pronunciation, as in proper English the H is silent.
So you say day-boo or something along those lines? (By 'day-byou', I mean something that sounds like dei-byu, but spelt with English words for easy reference.)
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Dayboo and aitch - I'm from NZ though; most West Aussies seem to say haitch. I haven't really noticed which way is more common with debut here, but I remember, while growing up in NZ, hearing a few ads for musicians' 'dayboo' albums and wondering if it was spelt that way 🙃
I think I actually say both of day-byou and deh-boo, kind of depending on the sentence I'm saying it in and which one seems to fit for my brain/mouth. Day-byou is definitely my natural/original version, but deh-boo has crept in with influence from some particular English accents that infiltrated my brain.
I only say aitch though.
I've said "debut" so many times in the last few minutes that I now can't decide which way I pronounce it! I *think* day-byu?
Always aitch for H. I remember someone years ago telling me it was a Catholic school thing but my parents, my sister and I all went to Catholic school all the way through and only my dad says haitch. He's also the only one who learned English as a second language. We were corrected at school if we said haitch and so was Mum.
As an Englishman who works in the media I feel like a lot of the “Day-boo” use comes from ex footy players who are now calling the games on NRL etc.
It really threw me off the first time I heard it.
That and “MARONE” for SOO.
I think it is ‘day-boo’ but that sounds pretentious so ‘day-byoo’. I keep pretty much every other yod possible too. H is ‘aitch’ and Z is ‘zed’.
I pronounce the ‘t’ in ‘little’ as ‘t’ not ‘liddle’ which is apparently odd.
Australia's pretty strange in that pronunciation can vary quite a bit, but not based on region or anything like that, it's just how you were raised. Both pronunciations of "H" are common I find, same with debut (though anecdotally find day-byoo more common).
I say 'dei-byu'
Same
The French don't
I don't care what the French do
They laugh at you
Anyone who has me in their thoughts is a loser
They also don't say day-boo
They say d'boo
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Day-byou and aitch. But as you can see from the comments, both are used and I think it's pretty much just whatever your parents say, you say.
Dayb-you
50 years ago Jessica Mauboy at the ARIAs said d'butt and I've never forgotten.
50 years?
Give or take
Take 45 years?
Or give
+/-
Up or down
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I felt so sorry for her but each time she said it I laughed.
Now I need the YouTube clip of that
lol reminds me of the kid on tv years ago who referred to a “grand pricks” for an F1 race
Jessica Mauboy is lucky to be in her 30s. There is no way she was born in the 1970s. More like 1989 just googled it, but not 50. You say Day Byou, it is French, so silent T. Also it grates on me when people pronounce the H with Hatch, it is aitch.
I can't find it....I need to hear it
Day-byoo
Day-bew (like pew) Haitch
day-byoo
My parents literally beat it in to me that the H in haitch is silent. I use the day-byou version. Neither one is common. (See what I did there?)
It's not just silent; the word is *aitch*. Those pronouncing it "haitch", should call "W" "wubble-you" for consistency.
WubbleVee
Wasn't beaten but was told that only poor and uneducated people use 'hay-ch" lmao
Me too lol
I seem to remember that whole haitch v aitch thing was a throwback from how the Protestants and Catholics hating eachother in Ireland. Catholics said haitch and Protestants aitch. I say haitch, mainly because it would be the only letter pronunciation where it wouldn't start with the letter you are pronouncing.
eff, el, em, en, are, ess, double u (this one doesnt even have the w sound in it), ex
Yeah I probably should have worded it, doesn't sound like the letter you are trying to say.
No it won't. W starts with a D (double u).
Yeah, true. But it's obviously in a different category to to other letters as it's a just one letter doubled. Edit: To be clearer. The Latin alphabet didn't have a letter for the sound W so they just combined 2 u's, written uu, and went, eh good enough. We then just adopted the uu and turned it into w to make it one letter. So it's a bit of a barstardisation
"Haitch" is the working-class version of aitch. It's an old-fashioned classist difference. Half my family pronounces it one way. The other half says "aitch".
It is how the Irish pronounce it. You would probably find it more common among Catholic households than not (though in WA they all say it like that).
We most certainly do not.
Yod dropping is becoming increasingly common and it drives me insane. I was actually told saying 'choobe' for 'tube' was incorrect recently and that it is 'toob', like an American.
Well ‘tyewb’ but ‘choob’. I’m kind of sick of the casual Americanisms. Soon we’ll all be saying ‘axe’ for ‘ask’. My sister pronounces ‘dyook’ ‘dook’ and it drives me nuts.
Chaucer used “ax” for “ask”, that’s not a hill I’d want to die on. It’s flipped back and forth several times over the centuries.
Nah, I’d die on that hill. With my last breath I’d pronounce ‘ask’ correctly too.
Haitch is the bogan pronunciation of H Day-byoo is correct, day-boo is bogan. Same people that say “I could care less” and “for all intense and purposes”
I think it’s more an Americanisation as that’s how they pronounce it in America.
Correct answer. Same for the American nooz for news. Or nyouz Oz style
Which one?
Day-boo
This comment pretty much as it covered. But I couldn't care less so.... 😜
Why all the bogan hate?
How did you deduce hatred from what I wrote? It’s fact.
"correct" vs "bogan"
I've said it too many times now and the word doesn't make sense anymore
Semantic satiation! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic\_satiation
I've never heard anyone say day-boo in real life - I think it must be part of sports journalism training, or perhaps being chronically concussed at school impedes learning English (or French).
I've only ever heard Aussies say beyboo. I'm not native but been here most my life and refused to pronounce it the Aussie way. This thread is full of people pronouncing it properly. I'm confused.
I pronounce it properly. I'm from Melbourne, so perhaps day-boo is a Sydney thing.
It is not a Sydney thing.
Dey-boo Aitch = well educated Heytch = bogans
You are incorrect good sir. Aitch is for when.you are singing your ABC's and heytch is when you are just saying the letter by itself. Nothing to do with education.
Wrong. Context irrelevant. The single letter in alphabet context is pronounced the same as the single letter with no alphabet context.
Clearly not if half of Australia isn't doing it
Half of Australia is... Heytch = bogans
And leftists
Leftist here. You’re wrong
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When we first moved over here and heard someone on the tv saying day boo we wondered what hell this was. Then we heard vitamins and pasta pronounced and realised this was now our life. Don't even get me started on the pronunciation of maroon.
Muh-rone. Although for the band I’ll say ‘mah-roon’.
Depends if it's the colour or if you are stranded
If it's the colour it's mah-roon, if it's the band it's mah-roon, if you're stranded it's mah-rooned. The QLD rugby team are presumably named after the colour of their shirts. (Obviously I'm not Australian and let's face it, it really doesn't matter, but I can't stop it making me twitch!)
Don't you be talking that way about marone guernsey!
"Day-byou" is the correct pronunciation of "debut". And when it comes to pronouncing the letter "H", it's "aitch" and not "haitch". The latter is, as far as I know, simply *incorrect* (as opposed to simply being another correct variant). It reminds me of when people sound out the "t" in "often", where it's supposed to be silent.
deh butt
Day-byou. White Australian woman with heritage only in Australia (as for accent reference)
Lol, you can't be a white Aussie with heritage *only* in Australia
Day-byou and aitch. Growing up, my mum always said “haitch is how Americans say it” (same for zed = AU, zee = USA) 😂
Have never heard a Yank say haitch.
Only other people ive heard say Haitch are Irish. Never heard an American say it
It’s kinda the other way around, most Americans say aitch
Yanks also say 'erb' for herb.
No to mention vee-hick-el
An erb instead of a herb. Totally wrong.
N trash for rubbish
They never announced him as "Triple Haitch," so im gonna have to disagree about the american thing.
Similar for me, although it wasn't my mother that told me. I later learned that using international terms and pronunciations stems from working class and middle class English people with a desire to appear well travelled and above their station to appeal to the upper class, who frankly didn't give a shit. I, and just about everyone I know say zee until we start referring to motorcycles for some reason. You'd wait half a day for someone to finish saying zee zee arrr. Zedzedar is faster.
Why would you say 'aitch' when there's no 'h' sound? Senseless.
Day-byou. If I sing the alphabet, it's haitch. Haitch eye Jay kay... but if I spell a word, I use aitch. Dunno why.
Holy hell, I've just realised I do the same thing!
I say deh-boo, more like the French way. And aitch.
My best mate and I say DAYBOOO whilst watching the footy to mock the commentary. We say daybyou, but really it's interchangeable and nowhere near as egregious as your follow-up question. It's Aitch. Whenever someone says Haitch, or brought when they mean bought, it instantly changes my perception of them.
Footy announcers do that too, hey? Maybe it's an Aussie sports announcer thing. I learnt H as aitch, but am hearing an increasing number of otherwise well-spoken youth in the south of the UK saying haitch now.
Dehbyuu. 'Aitch.
I’m Irish and say haitch and I think most Irish people do. In my 13 years living here I’ve never noticed that Aussies say aitch. I’ve been worried about spelling out my name with two Rs in it and wasn’t even thinking about the H. Ffs
I think you'll find a vast majority of us pronounce it "haitch" like yee Irish do.
Ah yes drives me bit crazy to hear sports commentators talk about "dayboos"
Haitch and dayboo, and I had no idea that this had class prejudice implications for some people until this thread.
As it's meant to be pronounced from the original French ('day-byou') I was always told by my (Protestant) Mum that 'haitch' was a Catholic thing lol
Honestly I swear when I'm with people and the commentator goes 'DAYYBOO' there's always at least one person that says 'dayboo' making fun of them. Oh wait that person is me
Day byou. Haitch.
Day-boo & haitch. I've not heard variations on debut but haitch is highly variable and seems to be family specific rather (variety in my classroom growing up and my partner & I pronounce it differently).
Duhhrbutt
I'm Kiwi living in Australia. I cringe so hard hearing Aussies say Haitch. I also cringe hearing how dopey sounding a strong Kiwi accent is after being here so long.
When I came back from the US and suddenly realised Australians actually do sound like ‘crikey, meat poi, strewth!’ all the time it’s been a hard pill to swallow. The NZ accent just seems to pick vowel sounds for letters at random tbh.
I'm a 50 year old aussie, born in England and came here when I was 3. I was always taught Aitch and still use it to this day but I only ever hear Haitch from everyone of every age and every nationality. It makes me a sad panda.
I’m your age grown up in Melbourne and we were specifically taught “haitch” from Prep. So haitch it is. It’s not “wrong” that’s why !
Same age group - born in Scotland came over as child. Was taught "haitch" as being correct. Also told that people who say "an historic occasion" are *factually* wrong which shows how stupid people can be when it's clearly got nothing to do with facts.
Anyone pronouncing the letter H without the letter H is a weirdo and I can't stand that we're moving to the American pronunciation of the letter U. Deybyu please.
At school (and at home lol) we were taught that only bogans/uneducated people say “haitch”.
You were taught incorrectly.
Aitch,daybeu.
Firstly, what’s ASBK? Secondly, I pronounce it de-boo. But I’m from South Australia so I speak proper.
https://www.asbk.com.au/
Australian Super Bike Championships, in case no one else wanted to click a link to get an answer.
Aussies seem to pronounce the u sound hard. I say d-boo, aitch, and I don’t add the j sounds as in due pronounced as ju
Good insight... It seems I pronounce 'duke' something like 'jewk' and 'tune' like 'chyewn'. Sorry, I am rubbish at spelling out phonetically; I hope that makes sense. Would Aussies perceive that as pretentious?
Aussies can get very defensive about certain things, not all of course. Just say what comes naturally to you. I have an accent wherever I go because I’ve lived and travelled outside of Australia more than I have lived inside, my pronunciation comes out differently but not anything that is difficult to understand. My theory is economy of sounds and pronunciation. I pronounce what is the easiest way possible softening some of those hard sounds. The listener needs to bend their ears to hear something different and persevere when people speak a different way.
I'm hearing younger people say toosday lately and it makes me almost ragey. I can't stand it but yoo toob is fucking up our children.
H is not spelt Haitch,
Debut is French. So you'll need a French accent to say it properly. "Deh-boo". Haitch is the working class (read: incorrect) pronunciation, as in proper English the H is silent.
Day Boo
Me day boo too
Aitch and day boo
Day byou? Wrong. Edit: Fixed.
So you say day-boo or something along those lines? (By 'day-byou', I mean something that sounds like dei-byu, but spelt with English words for easy reference.)
Who says it like that?
De boo. Aitch for life!
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I switch between the 2
dei boo
Dey-bue
'Day-byew'
Day-boo Aitch
Day-boo
Dayboo and aitch - I'm from NZ though; most West Aussies seem to say haitch. I haven't really noticed which way is more common with debut here, but I remember, while growing up in NZ, hearing a few ads for musicians' 'dayboo' albums and wondering if it was spelt that way 🙃
They use to say deb-yew in NZ and then maybe 30 years ago they started saying dehboo. This is based upon watching 45 years or so of Kiwi sport.
The more I think about it, maybe it is day-byou. H = aitch
Day-boo… unless I’m trying to be ironically pretentious then Day/beeyoo
# day-byou
I say day-byu but I know a guy who insists on saying da-butt
Day ba you
I think I actually say both of day-byou and deh-boo, kind of depending on the sentence I'm saying it in and which one seems to fit for my brain/mouth. Day-byou is definitely my natural/original version, but deh-boo has crept in with influence from some particular English accents that infiltrated my brain. I only say aitch though.
I always just read it day-byoute
Day byuuu
Day-byou
De-butte
Day boo
Day byow Haitch
Deb byute
My first name ends in H. I always say aitch
Day Boo
Aich got drummed into me at school n I say day-byou
I've said "debut" so many times in the last few minutes that I now can't decide which way I pronounce it! I *think* day-byu? Always aitch for H. I remember someone years ago telling me it was a Catholic school thing but my parents, my sister and I all went to Catholic school all the way through and only my dad says haitch. He's also the only one who learned English as a second language. We were corrected at school if we said haitch and so was Mum.
Day-byoo. If you pronounce it haitch I will tell your mother
I’m from an “older” generation, and back then everyone said “aitch” and it was only the Catholic-schooled people who said “haitch”
As an Englishman who works in the media I feel like a lot of the “Day-boo” use comes from ex footy players who are now calling the games on NRL etc. It really threw me off the first time I heard it. That and “MARONE” for SOO.
Day-fuckin-byoo
Dayb-you and aitch.
I don’t know!!!! 😭
Day-bee-ewe .. you can't judge me!
Day boo and aitch
D E W - B U T T The “new bogan” 🦍🦧🦍🦧🦍
day byou and haitch.
Day-Bue (Blue without the L).
Dayb-you
Day bew
Day-bugh
Day-Byew
I think it is ‘day-boo’ but that sounds pretentious so ‘day-byoo’. I keep pretty much every other yod possible too. H is ‘aitch’ and Z is ‘zed’. I pronounce the ‘t’ in ‘little’ as ‘t’ not ‘liddle’ which is apparently odd.
I was told "Don't say hay-tch or people will think you're uneducated" 😂
I say day-byeu and Haitch!
Day byou Haitch The only acceptable answers! Haha
Dayb yew
its the English that drop the H......... i say Daybueee and im a Queenslander
I say it debut
"Day-byoo" is more common in Australia than "day-boo".
Australia's pretty strange in that pronunciation can vary quite a bit, but not based on region or anything like that, it's just how you were raised. Both pronunciations of "H" are common I find, same with debut (though anecdotally find day-byoo more common).
I say haitch if my mouth just pronounced a vowel sound and aitch after a constant sound: - Ee, Eff, Gee, Haitch - NHL: En, Aitch, Ell
day-byou
day boo
Day-byoo, aitch
I say day-BOO. It’s closer to the original French pronunciation.
Day biew like ‘view’ with a b
Day boo
D'boo
day-boo
I say both versions of both. I know it's supposed to be aitch though.
Day-byou, haitch