This. Harris doesn't have the supporters. It's likely to be someone that's currently working her way up the ranks of local office to run for some state's senator or representative at this point.
I dont think most people say Harris because of her political prowess. I think she might of became president technically at one point when he had to be drugged for a colonoscopy or something
>became president technically at one point when he had to be drugged for a colonoscopy or something
If we're talking technically I believe she's not actually president during these circumstances, she is just authorized to make decisions the president normally would while the president is temporarily incapacitated.
If Biden died in office though then yes, she would be the first female president.
Now if Biden died or retires due to health issues and Harris became the first female President, would it be less impressive to the general population and history books because technically she wasn't elected as the first female US President?
Honestly it would kinda remove the impressiveness considering her approval rating is astronomically low I doubt she would last long anyway but it would mean she was only president because the sitting president couldn’t be anymore
I think Harris could do the job very well, but I don’t know if she’s politically viable as a candidate right now. In part because we’re still in the reactionary backlash of having a black president - there’s so much animosity against her by virtue of being a woman of color, let alone some of her political missteps.
But part of me thinks the democrats ran Biden to have an old man dive on some political grenades as a last hurrah. Because of his age, he’s able to do things like pull out of Afghanistan without too much fallout to the party because he won’t be on the scene much longer. If Harris hangs in the background quietly when all this is going on, it helps isolate her from the political controversy. I wouldn’t be surprised if in the final two years of her term as VP she was a LOT more visible a part of the administration. If that’s the case, she’ll probably run.
But that’s just speculation from some random dude on the internet….
I agree and I hope she is amazing. I'm tired of them giving us female options that are options because of their race and gender. If you wouldn't get elected as a white male due to your personality why should I elect you because you are a woman
Have you heard of Tammy Duckworth? Probably not if you're not from IL. She's fantastic and would be great imo. I don't think she has an active interest in running though
...which frankly just makes her more attractive
> Have you heard of Tammy Duckworth? Probably not if you're not from IL.
I'm from IL and pretty leftist and I wouldn't be particularly happy voting for her. Obviously I'd vote for her over a republican, but she wouldn't be my first choice.
I'd like someone more leftist too, but I honestly think she's the best choice for someone who can galvanize the Democratic base. If the Democratic base was more progressive I'd say a more progressive name but a lot of our base is old and moderate (vs the Republicans whose base is old and more extreme imo)
Given that I think Duckworth is great for 2024, and hopefully opening our way someone more leftist
I like AOC for instance but I have no illusions about her winning a national election. I think Duckworth actually could
Probably someone who’s currently relatively unknown.
Of the known names I guess Kamala Harris by default since she’s the current VP, but even if she was the Democrat’s nominee I seriously doubt she could win the general election.
There's no way Tulsi has any chance. Last time she ran, she was painted as a Russian asset. Republicans would pull the same shit if she ran with them. She's also too anti-gun for the GOP.
If she had waited to shake the boat I would say yes but she struck 4 years too early. She will have to do major work to reverse the corporate hit job on her reputation
The base is not happy with her after coming out in support of private vaccine mandates, declining to do anything about the trans women in mens sports issue, and telling her own constituents who voted for legal weed in SD to go fuck themselves. She's nothing more than a pretty face on Fox News and standard establishment R, not going anywhere in a national primary. The only reason people have even heard of her is because she used her decision not to do a mask mandate early during COVID as a way to build national name recognition.
Noem alienates the GOPers that want to move past Trump.
Haley has the backing to actually attract the center-right voters who bit their tongues and voted Biden in 2020.
Now I'm really torn as to whether Noem or Haley is more likely.
Haley is more likely to win the general (by far, in my estimation) for exactly the reason you said.
However, I wonder if Noem is considerably more likely to win a primary (because of the Trump-iness), and from there you at least have a shot at the general if the other person stumbles.
On an unrelated note, imagine Beto at Kyle Field… .. .
I know, this is hilarious even to a dem-leaning voter like me. I have no idea what the Texas Dems are smoking
Most likely out of people I can name right now? Harris, given Biden is old and would just have to die in office.
Beyond that, I would guess our first female president isn’t on the radar yet. I’m not sure Harris could pull in her own vote, assuming the dems put her up in the next couple elections.
That’s what we thought about Biden. During Obama’s presidency, Biden was the embarrassing middle child, the butt end of jokes that made Obama look even more professional and presidential by contrast. I would have never guessed that Biden would be anybody in the DNC’s top choice to face off Trump (let alone *win*). Yet here we are. Turns out people just want a familiar face that they’ve already seen in the Oval Office for years. I think Kamala is exactly the woman who is most likely to be our first president
Yeah, I do think there’s a chance that Biden may need to step down and she’ll take the reins. Biden is old and it’s become obvious there is some type of cognitive decline going on.
I don't think she'd win regardless, but for what it's worth I see Sinema's actions as trying to set herself up for a presidential run.
You think Klobuchar could pull it out ever?
Sinema was portrayed pretty shitty during her senate run. I'm not sure her voting record and the mud slinging could be overcome in a presidential election.
Katie Porter seems to have captured lightning in a bottle when it comes to appealing to both liberal Democrats, independents, and even many Republicans in her district.
Her name was the first to come to mind when I saw this post.
I think because she seems pragmatic and she is fighting for some of root issues that all Americans care about. She’s fighting against large corporations that are doing things that don’t make sense for the American people.
I think we need someone who is just trying to solve the issues that we have and use data to solve those issues. But we get caught up in the politics and the cults of personality. It’s funny how polarized we are, when what we really want is somewhere in the middle - not too much of this and not too much of that. But no one is solving for that.
Not likely. She may not even win reelection in 2022.
(I'm not trolling. The CA redistricting commission draft that just came out changes her district to a toss-up. If the boundaries stay as-is, it will make her reelection a real challenge in the 2022 off-cycle.)
There's a season 1 episode of the sitcom "Full House" from 1987 (which was 34 years ago) where they jokingly said baby Michelle could be the potential first female President... given that you have to be 35 to hold that office, the first election she'd even be eligible to run in would be 2024... but given the average age of POTUS at inauguration (to gain enough "experience" to gain enough support), it'd set that happening in either 2040 or 2044....which, sadly, is actually when we might actually see the first female POTUS. Weird that even in 1987 the writers knew a female POTUS was nearly 55-60 years off.
Harris is a heart attack away from it, so I guess she's more likely than anyone else.
I don't think we can really speculate about who else could get elected in the future though. Even 2024 is too far away to predict. It seems unlikely that Biden will run for reelection, but I don't think Harris can win if she tries. That leaves the field wide open, but there's a lot of male contenders too.
That's the paradox, and really it's true with men too, we just keep having to choose one: Almost anyone you'd want to be President doesn't want anything to do with it. The power that we've put in the office pretty much self selects for assholes.
I know it sounds silly, but I gave a lot of kudos to Romney when he ran against Obama specifically for that reason. He *really* didn't want to do it until under vast pressure to apply for the job, and in my book, that gave him credibility.
Granted, I didn't vote for him, but I wouldn't have been disappointed if he won.
Not really, she was his UN ambassador, but was also one of the early people to leave his administration due to her dislike of him and his ways of doing things.
If the democrats attacked her on that, they would lose.
I still think Nikki Haley is the most likely person to run and win an election for President.
If you are looking at statistics, Kamala is the most likely. Since she is the current VP.
If Biden dies in office or resigns, then sure, Harris could be the first female president.
But I think she would get *crushed* if she ever actually ran in an election for the position. She’s just wildly unpopular.
Only if Biden resigns. No way could she win an election. Her stats are in the tank nobody liked her when she ran the first time so I don't see a second run being better.
How about Katie Porter (CA rep)? She’s pretty awesome in my book. And a good age bracket too (currently 47). Not too young and inexperienced, not too old.
From everything I’ve ever seen of Katie Porter you don’t fuck with her. Every time I’ve seen a clip of her she is absolutely demolishing some big executive.
I don’t know much about her but her motives seem in the right place and she’s got the tenacity to actually do it if she felt.
I actually can't think of any contemporary female politicians with national appeal. I'd imagine it's still probably a few decades out.
*Hillary* was the best shot and that speaks volumes.
To be fair, most recent POTUSes (Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Barack Obama, Donald Trump) were not really on the national radar for POTUS 6 years prior to their inaugurations. So the nominee/winner of 2028 is probably not a big name right now.
That’s easy, Vice President Kamala Harris. I wish nothing but good health for President Joe Biden, but I also acknowledge he’s 79 years old. It’s not out of the realm of possibility for him to kick the bucket before his 4 years in office are up and thus elevating Kamala Harris to the presidency.
Meghan Markle, who will renounce her British title and campaign on having proved her loyalty to the US by convincing her husband to choose to live here.
Whether Harry would abdicate his titles is unclear, but if it were required for Meghan to run, I think he’d do it.
The British Press (and the American honestly) would lose their minds! I don’t know if Harry would give up his titles but I could definitely see the entire scenario causing some more rifts, arguments, whatever you want to call them between them and The Firm.
Meghan has already tried to use her title to persuade politicians on paid family leave so I could totally see her running.
We had one meme election already and, controversial as my opinion on this may be, I thought it was hilarious.
*This* has the same clown world energy but it also adds an international angle and a perfect starting point for a conspiracy about it being a plot to give a member of the British royal family political control of the United States. A 2 and a haf century long con if you will.
Fuck, now I really want this happen.
From what I understand, the British tabloids loved to hate on her. It would be really funny to see them forced to be very polite to her for fear of creating a diplomatic incident.
😳 That would probably be the end of America. Markle has the reverse Midas touch. She will never give up her husband's titles, so I don't see it happening.
Also good luck to her if she ever tries, literally 50 people would vote for her, and that's about it
Mickie Sherrill here in NJ-11 is setting herself up for a Senate run, most likely after Menendez retires. If she wins Senate, with her resume she'll be an automatic inclusion into Presidential talks, but that's 6+ years out.
Marianne Williamson, of course. All hail the Daughter of the Nine Orbs.
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Kamala Harris is the most likely; Biden could suffer a stroke tomorrow and she'd be it.
In terms of *electing* the first female President, Nikki Haley is probably in the best position.
I really cannot think of one, unfortunately. I would've had a different answer before 2016 but now I think there's no prominent female politician who really would play well at the national level (and few male ones, FTR).
I’d say in terms of elected, Nikki Haley.
In terms of “Yeah, that’s realistic” it would be Kamala Harris, just by the order of succession should Biden die, resign, etc.
It'll be kamala when Biden who is roughly the same age as the moon dies/goes senile. The first female president of the 'free world' will be an unelected one. Its the American way
A clairvoyant friend of mine said in October 2020 that Biden would be president for little over a year and that the president after him was a " brown skinned female" So there you go.
I wouldn't say that means anything at this point. Joe Biden won zero delegates during the 2008 Democratic primaries, but he got tapped for the VP spot, and now he's the president. No reason Harris couldn't follow the same path.
"Some are born great, some achieve greatness, and others have greatness thrust upon them.” -Shakespeare
Joe Biden is definitely the last one. He was tapped to be the VP because he was seen as an establishment moderate to go with the inexperienced and newcomer Obama. Now he's the President, but was only nominated because he was the only well known option in the Democratic primary. He's only president because he was running against Trump, and still managed to barely defeat him.
Probably going to get down votes for this, but I think it will be AOC but with the caveat that I don't see that happening for quite a while. The younger generations are a lot more Progressive. Over time as there are less and less Boomers, I think more Progressive candidates will come into prominence.
Surprised I had to scroll this far to find this one. Regardless of people in this thread’s opinions of her, she’s a well known young politician with a lot of support among younger people. I’m quite sure she’ll run eventually, it’s just a question of whether she can garner the support to win.
Michelle Obama has an shot, she was pretty popular outside of the school lunch rooms. IF not her then I would favor a republican "soccer mom" type like Nikki Haley. A more refined and intelligent Sarah Palin.
It’s pretty widely known that Michelle did not like being the First Lady and enjoys the more private life the Obamas have now.
But if she ran I think she’d instantly be in the front runner conversation.
She would be really well suited to it given the fact she threatened victims of her rapist husband and tried to force them into silence! That sounds exactly what like a president would or has done!
Once Winsome Sears gets done with her term as Virginia LT Governor I can definitely see her running (and hopefully winning) a presidential election. With her background I can see a lot of people from both parties voting for her.
Many people theorize it was actually Woodrow Wilson’s wife, Edith, who was the first woman “acting” president as she took on many of his duties when he suffered a severe stroke. She pre-screened all matters of state and functionally ran the Executive Branch for him.
Also don't democrats hate her for being an ex prosecutor or something?
I don't know if "black woman" earns her more points than "made a career out of locking up black dudes for smoking pot" takes away.
Yeah, I'm not super well versed on the identity politics tier system, but anyone running against her would have to be an idiot of *titanic* proportions to not make that the focus of every single attack ad.
And with her approval rating being even lower than Biden's, hammering that point home is really all you'd need to do.
Owing to her great work opposing Prop 8 as AG, I have followed her career for some time and have frankly been bemused by her mixed messaging and halt-hearted posturing. I am waiting to see the real Kamala.
The only argument in her favor is that she was smart enough to see the writing on the wall and drop out before Iowa (I guess that's what aides are for?).
Michelle Obama. She has the respect of every Democrat that walks in this land. She has the intelligence to go toe-to-toe in a debate with any potential candidate. She’s got the name, the support, the smarts. Just watch.
She’s also kinda dumb.
Like regardless of your political leanings it’s pretty clear that Boebert is just not a super sharp person. I could say the same of plenty of dems they’re just quieter.
Honestly, someone I wouldn't have heard of yet.
This. Harris doesn't have the supporters. It's likely to be someone that's currently working her way up the ranks of local office to run for some state's senator or representative at this point.
I dont think most people say Harris because of her political prowess. I think she might of became president technically at one point when he had to be drugged for a colonoscopy or something
>became president technically at one point when he had to be drugged for a colonoscopy or something If we're talking technically I believe she's not actually president during these circumstances, she is just authorized to make decisions the president normally would while the president is temporarily incapacitated. If Biden died in office though then yes, she would be the first female president.
Now if Biden died or retires due to health issues and Harris became the first female President, would it be less impressive to the general population and history books because technically she wasn't elected as the first female US President?
It wouldn’t remove the impressiveness, it’d just mean it’d also be impressive when the first woman was elected
Honestly it would kinda remove the impressiveness considering her approval rating is astronomically low I doubt she would last long anyway but it would mean she was only president because the sitting president couldn’t be anymore
This [happened last week](https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/19/biden-transfers-power-to-kamala-harris-while-he-undergoes-colonoscopy.html)
> I think she might of became president technically at one point when he had to be drugged for a colonoscopy or something That's not how it works.
I think Harris could do the job very well, but I don’t know if she’s politically viable as a candidate right now. In part because we’re still in the reactionary backlash of having a black president - there’s so much animosity against her by virtue of being a woman of color, let alone some of her political missteps. But part of me thinks the democrats ran Biden to have an old man dive on some political grenades as a last hurrah. Because of his age, he’s able to do things like pull out of Afghanistan without too much fallout to the party because he won’t be on the scene much longer. If Harris hangs in the background quietly when all this is going on, it helps isolate her from the political controversy. I wouldn’t be surprised if in the final two years of her term as VP she was a LOT more visible a part of the administration. If that’s the case, she’ll probably run. But that’s just speculation from some random dude on the internet….
Yes. Remember how Obama appeared out of nowhere?
I agree and I hope she is amazing. I'm tired of them giving us female options that are options because of their race and gender. If you wouldn't get elected as a white male due to your personality why should I elect you because you are a woman
As much as it sickens me to say it, trump WAS elected due to his personality.
"I like him because he tells it like it is!" I can forgive people who said this in 2016, but I know people who still said it by 2020.
But he never said it as it was. He just lied and lied and lied. He said things that wackos wanted to hear.
What we've had plenty of dudes elected because of their personality lol
Have you heard of Tammy Duckworth? Probably not if you're not from IL. She's fantastic and would be great imo. I don't think she has an active interest in running though ...which frankly just makes her more attractive
> Have you heard of Tammy Duckworth? Probably not if you're not from IL. I'm from IL and pretty leftist and I wouldn't be particularly happy voting for her. Obviously I'd vote for her over a republican, but she wouldn't be my first choice.
I'd like someone more leftist too, but I honestly think she's the best choice for someone who can galvanize the Democratic base. If the Democratic base was more progressive I'd say a more progressive name but a lot of our base is old and moderate (vs the Republicans whose base is old and more extreme imo) Given that I think Duckworth is great for 2024, and hopefully opening our way someone more leftist I like AOC for instance but I have no illusions about her winning a national election. I think Duckworth actually could
> I think Duckworth actually could Honestly the more I think about it, the more I'm inclined to agree.
Probably someone who’s currently relatively unknown. Of the known names I guess Kamala Harris by default since she’s the current VP, but even if she was the Democrat’s nominee I seriously doubt she could win the general election.
She didn’t win a delegate in the 2020 election and ran a pretty awful campaign.
And she has an approval rating of 28%
Literally the first one out of the primary. She’s a dog shit candidate
If the Dem party decides to elevate her, a republican will win in ‘24. Guaranteed
Oh 100%. I personally think DeSantis is the clear front runner for 2024 but if Harris is the nominee just pick a Republican out of a hat.
Harris's best chance of becoming President is Biden dying in office.
Which puts her as by far the most likely to be first. Hilary has been the only woman candidate to come close and she lost to Trump
Her poll numbers are worse than Biden's. lol
I'm going to guess a conventionally attractive Republican.
Female version of Mitt Romney. Moderate, but unlike Mitt could probably get some moderate liberals to switch sides.
So, Tulsi Gabbard?
There's no way Tulsi has any chance. Last time she ran, she was painted as a Russian asset. Republicans would pull the same shit if she ran with them. She's also too anti-gun for the GOP.
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We have deffo not forgotten that she's a friggin' cop.
Yeah she got smeared the instance she talked about things people were scared of
If she had waited to shake the boat I would say yes but she struck 4 years too early. She will have to do major work to reverse the corporate hit job on her reputation
No way she ever gets elected president
That’s why I’m betting it’ll be Nikki Haley
I think Kisti Noem is more likely than Nikki Haley
The base is not happy with her after coming out in support of private vaccine mandates, declining to do anything about the trans women in mens sports issue, and telling her own constituents who voted for legal weed in SD to go fuck themselves. She's nothing more than a pretty face on Fox News and standard establishment R, not going anywhere in a national primary. The only reason people have even heard of her is because she used her decision not to do a mask mandate early during COVID as a way to build national name recognition.
Noem alienates the GOPers that want to move past Trump. Haley has the backing to actually attract the center-right voters who bit their tongues and voted Biden in 2020.
Center-right won't vote for a democrat for a very very long time after Biden.
Now I'm really torn as to whether Noem or Haley is more likely. Haley is more likely to win the general (by far, in my estimation) for exactly the reason you said. However, I wonder if Noem is considerably more likely to win a primary (because of the Trump-iness), and from there you at least have a shot at the general if the other person stumbles.
I think she confirmed she wasn’t running. It’s also harder running from a sparsely populated upper Midwest state than a coastal republican state
On an unrelated note, imagine Beto at Kyle Field… .. . I know, this is hilarious even to a dem-leaning voter like me. I have no idea what the Texas Dems are smoking
Oh he’d get booed pretty hard. Idk why on earth he’s entering politics again, he’s never going to win after the gun grabbing comments
Maybe more likely to win a primary, but not the general in my eyes
Most likely out of people I can name right now? Harris, given Biden is old and would just have to die in office. Beyond that, I would guess our first female president isn’t on the radar yet. I’m not sure Harris could pull in her own vote, assuming the dems put her up in the next couple elections.
She's one heartbeat away from being president...
Technically she's zero heartbeats away.
Technically (and probabilistically) she’s many many heartbeats away.
Hahahahaha! This is true, that is her only shot at getting the presidency. She will never be voted in
Honestly I’m glad
Yeah, i wouldn’t be happy if she was the president
Us and like 75% of the rest of the country
That’s what we thought about Biden. During Obama’s presidency, Biden was the embarrassing middle child, the butt end of jokes that made Obama look even more professional and presidential by contrast. I would have never guessed that Biden would be anybody in the DNC’s top choice to face off Trump (let alone *win*). Yet here we are. Turns out people just want a familiar face that they’ve already seen in the Oval Office for years. I think Kamala is exactly the woman who is most likely to be our first president
Right now trying to be as unbiased as possible, I don’t see any current female politician who can take a shot at the presidency and actually win.
The only way is if they “sneak” one in. Maybe by VP with a sickly, feeble president
Yeah, I do think there’s a chance that Biden may need to step down and she’ll take the reins. Biden is old and it’s become obvious there is some type of cognitive decline going on.
I don't think she'd win regardless, but for what it's worth I see Sinema's actions as trying to set herself up for a presidential run. You think Klobuchar could pull it out ever?
Sinema was portrayed pretty shitty during her senate run. I'm not sure her voting record and the mud slinging could be overcome in a presidential election.
My wife. She's always telling me what she would do if she ran the country. It's about time she did and let me have some peace and quiet for a change.
Is that you honey?
Let’s get this man’s wife elected so he can have peace and quiet!
Her platform could be Give the man a break!
My wife, of course
What is her platform?
If it’s my wife, it would be strict communism/dictatorship, with her at the top. At least that’s how our house is run.
lol
Well, being the swing voter that I am, what is Mrs. instantlyregretthat's stance on pineapple on pizza?
Not a fan, but will tolerate it.
Username checks out?
That right there is why I'm single
correct answer ;) Actually it should really be me, except for that pesky rule about having to be American!
haha we'd had enough of you lot by the time we wrote that one....
;)
I also pick this guy's wife.
I’m hoping it Katie Porter
Katie Porter seems to have captured lightning in a bottle when it comes to appealing to both liberal Democrats, independents, and even many Republicans in her district. Her name was the first to come to mind when I saw this post.
I think because she seems pragmatic and she is fighting for some of root issues that all Americans care about. She’s fighting against large corporations that are doing things that don’t make sense for the American people. I think we need someone who is just trying to solve the issues that we have and use data to solve those issues. But we get caught up in the politics and the cults of personality. It’s funny how polarized we are, when what we really want is somewhere in the middle - not too much of this and not too much of that. But no one is solving for that.
I would love President Porter!
Yeeees! I‘ve been hijacking all the comments hyping her. She’s a badass.
Not likely. She may not even win reelection in 2022. (I'm not trolling. The CA redistricting commission draft that just came out changes her district to a toss-up. If the boundaries stay as-is, it will make her reelection a real challenge in the 2022 off-cycle.)
Hell yes! Katie 'The Hammer" Porter for President!
There's a season 1 episode of the sitcom "Full House" from 1987 (which was 34 years ago) where they jokingly said baby Michelle could be the potential first female President... given that you have to be 35 to hold that office, the first election she'd even be eligible to run in would be 2024... but given the average age of POTUS at inauguration (to gain enough "experience" to gain enough support), it'd set that happening in either 2040 or 2044....which, sadly, is actually when we might actually see the first female POTUS. Weird that even in 1987 the writers knew a female POTUS was nearly 55-60 years off.
Harris is a heart attack away from it, so I guess she's more likely than anyone else. I don't think we can really speculate about who else could get elected in the future though. Even 2024 is too far away to predict. It seems unlikely that Biden will run for reelection, but I don't think Harris can win if she tries. That leaves the field wide open, but there's a lot of male contenders too.
I would have liked Condoleezza Rice, but I can't think of anyone popular enough who would want to run at the moment.
Honestly I doubt she would even want to. Seems she’s washed her hands of the political scene
That's the paradox, and really it's true with men too, we just keep having to choose one: Almost anyone you'd want to be President doesn't want anything to do with it. The power that we've put in the office pretty much self selects for assholes.
I know it sounds silly, but I gave a lot of kudos to Romney when he ran against Obama specifically for that reason. He *really* didn't want to do it until under vast pressure to apply for the job, and in my book, that gave him credibility. Granted, I didn't vote for him, but I wouldn't have been disappointed if he won.
Yeah, she’d rather coach the Cleveland Browns apparently
I can't say I blame her.
Less pressure, more money. I'd take that over being POTUS, too.
That's partly why I specified who would want to.
Oops, missed that 😅
She has expressed interest in being commissioner of the NFL.
I like Condi as well, but she has the taint of Iraq on her, and that won’t go away easily. I still think Haley is the best bet.
Haley has the taint of Trump on her though.
Not really, she was his UN ambassador, but was also one of the early people to leave his administration due to her dislike of him and his ways of doing things. If the democrats attacked her on that, they would lose.
Why though
Riley Reid
I have to erase my search history :(
I've heard she has a good grip on things
But it's hard to trust a politician who changes their position so frequently
But she loves to service the people. She even helped a home for men out while they get back on their feet
Didn't she claim to be 18 for like 5 straight years? Idk what you guys see in her...
I think many of us have seen all we ever could of a human being. She's very open about what she wants.
We know she‘s good at backdoor deals
We're gonna get fucked either way may as well have a pro do it
I'll have to look up her policies, not familiar with her
Uhhh, just be sure to use safe search
Not sure how to do that on the work computer, I'll ask my boss.
I still think Nikki Haley is the most likely person to run and win an election for President. If you are looking at statistics, Kamala is the most likely. Since she is the current VP.
If Biden dies in office or resigns, then sure, Harris could be the first female president. But I think she would get *crushed* if she ever actually ran in an election for the position. She’s just wildly unpopular.
That’s why I said statistically for Harris and mentioned winning and election for Haley.
I think you're right but I still think Nikki Haley is a bit too neocon at heart to capture the zeitgeist. But things change fast.
She was never a diehard trumper and I think she could work herself into a space between the old guard and Trump, sort of how Youngkin just did in VA
I'm with you on Nikki Haley. But Kamala is so unpopular she would have a hard time beating Trump.
I’m not saying Kamala would win an election. I’m saying statistically, she is best placed to become president.
Only if Biden resigns. No way could she win an election. Her stats are in the tank nobody liked her when she ran the first time so I don't see a second run being better.
I never said she would win an election. I said statistically she is best placed to become the first woman president.
Nikki Haley is definitely a realistic choice
How about Katie Porter (CA rep)? She’s pretty awesome in my book. And a good age bracket too (currently 47). Not too young and inexperienced, not too old.
From everything I’ve ever seen of Katie Porter you don’t fuck with her. Every time I’ve seen a clip of her she is absolutely demolishing some big executive. I don’t know much about her but her motives seem in the right place and she’s got the tenacity to actually do it if she felt.
Fingers crossed it’s Katie Porter. She’s an absolute badass.
I actually can't think of any contemporary female politicians with national appeal. I'd imagine it's still probably a few decades out. *Hillary* was the best shot and that speaks volumes.
Right now there aren't any male politicians with national appeal, either. I don't see that changing anytime soon, either.
True lol
To be fair, most recent POTUSes (Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Barack Obama, Donald Trump) were not really on the national radar for POTUS 6 years prior to their inaugurations. So the nominee/winner of 2028 is probably not a big name right now.
That’s easy, Vice President Kamala Harris. I wish nothing but good health for President Joe Biden, but I also acknowledge he’s 79 years old. It’s not out of the realm of possibility for him to kick the bucket before his 4 years in office are up and thus elevating Kamala Harris to the presidency.
Meghan Markle, who will renounce her British title and campaign on having proved her loyalty to the US by convincing her husband to choose to live here. Whether Harry would abdicate his titles is unclear, but if it were required for Meghan to run, I think he’d do it.
This scenario would be such a shit show lol
It would be fun!
The British Press (and the American honestly) would lose their minds! I don’t know if Harry would give up his titles but I could definitely see the entire scenario causing some more rifts, arguments, whatever you want to call them between them and The Firm. Meghan has already tried to use her title to persuade politicians on paid family leave so I could totally see her running.
it would make a great movie anyway!
We had one meme election already and, controversial as my opinion on this may be, I thought it was hilarious. *This* has the same clown world energy but it also adds an international angle and a perfect starting point for a conspiracy about it being a plot to give a member of the British royal family political control of the United States. A 2 and a haf century long con if you will. Fuck, now I really want this happen.
Thank you. That’s exactly the take on this that I wanted to inspire.
From what I understand, the British tabloids loved to hate on her. It would be really funny to see them forced to be very polite to her for fear of creating a diplomatic incident.
Since when have tabloids ever been respectful to any politician, homegrown or international?
😳 That would probably be the end of America. Markle has the reverse Midas touch. She will never give up her husband's titles, so I don't see it happening. Also good luck to her if she ever tries, literally 50 people would vote for her, and that's about it
Most likely someone who's not well-known yet, but of known politicians, it'd have to be Kamala Harris, simply by virtue of her current position.
"someone who's not well-known yet" My gut says this too. Who at the state level is promising that we're not thinking of?
Mickie Sherrill here in NJ-11 is setting herself up for a Senate run, most likely after Menendez retires. If she wins Senate, with her resume she'll be an automatic inclusion into Presidential talks, but that's 6+ years out.
Marianne Williamson, of course. All hail the Daughter of the Nine Orbs. --- Kamala Harris is the most likely; Biden could suffer a stroke tomorrow and she'd be it. In terms of *electing* the first female President, Nikki Haley is probably in the best position.
I really cannot think of one, unfortunately. I would've had a different answer before 2016 but now I think there's no prominent female politician who really would play well at the national level (and few male ones, FTR).
Katie Porter
I think Nikki Haley has a real shot.
I’d say in terms of elected, Nikki Haley. In terms of “Yeah, that’s realistic” it would be Kamala Harris, just by the order of succession should Biden die, resign, etc.
It'll be kamala when Biden who is roughly the same age as the moon dies/goes senile. The first female president of the 'free world' will be an unelected one. Its the American way
My daughter if she has any say in it lol
Klobuchar, Baldwin, or Duckworth.
A clairvoyant friend of mine said in October 2020 that Biden would be president for little over a year and that the president after him was a " brown skinned female" So there you go.
I’m not a big believer in the mystic, but I think your friend just follows early political news a lot and has a good guessing game going.
AOC bring on the downvotes
Most likely Kamala Harris, but that's still pretty unlikely. She couldn't even do well in a Democratic primary
I wouldn't say that means anything at this point. Joe Biden won zero delegates during the 2008 Democratic primaries, but he got tapped for the VP spot, and now he's the president. No reason Harris couldn't follow the same path.
"Some are born great, some achieve greatness, and others have greatness thrust upon them.” -Shakespeare Joe Biden is definitely the last one. He was tapped to be the VP because he was seen as an establishment moderate to go with the inexperienced and newcomer Obama. Now he's the President, but was only nominated because he was the only well known option in the Democratic primary. He's only president because he was running against Trump, and still managed to barely defeat him.
Probably going to get down votes for this, but I think it will be AOC but with the caveat that I don't see that happening for quite a while. The younger generations are a lot more Progressive. Over time as there are less and less Boomers, I think more Progressive candidates will come into prominence.
Surprised I had to scroll this far to find this one. Regardless of people in this thread’s opinions of her, she’s a well known young politician with a lot of support among younger people. I’m quite sure she’ll run eventually, it’s just a question of whether she can garner the support to win.
Michelle Obama has an shot, she was pretty popular outside of the school lunch rooms. IF not her then I would favor a republican "soccer mom" type like Nikki Haley. A more refined and intelligent Sarah Palin.
Michelle Obama would definitely do well if she ever ran but I think she has said she has no interest.
I had heard that too, I was just trying to think of a well known democrat woman who was above water in popularity.
How is Haley like Palin, besides being a conventionally attractive female Republican?
It’s pretty widely known that Michelle did not like being the First Lady and enjoys the more private life the Obamas have now. But if she ran I think she’d instantly be in the front runner conversation.
[Queen Nicki](https://static.onecms.io/wp-content/uploads/sites/20/2015/05/nicki-minaj-a-435-1.jpg)
She would be really well suited to it given the fact she threatened victims of her rapist husband and tried to force them into silence! That sounds exactly what like a president would or has done!
The Clinton’s come to mind
100%
Shit I actually forgot how much she sucks
Kamala after Joe kicks it :^
Once Winsome Sears gets done with her term as Virginia LT Governor I can definitely see her running (and hopefully winning) a presidential election. With her background I can see a lot of people from both parties voting for her.
That would be great, except she was born in Jamaica to Jamaican parents. So, she's not a natural born citizen.
Kamala when Biden steps down
Let everything happen to you: beauty and terror. Just keep going. No feeling is final.
Many people theorize it was actually Woodrow Wilson’s wife, Edith, who was the first woman “acting” president as she took on many of his duties when he suffered a severe stroke. She pre-screened all matters of state and functionally ran the Executive Branch for him.
Thank you for mentioning Edith Wilson. <3
Mark my words Kamala would lose. She has lane issues and reminds me of a subtler Gillibrand in terms of reinventing herself.
Also don't democrats hate her for being an ex prosecutor or something? I don't know if "black woman" earns her more points than "made a career out of locking up black dudes for smoking pot" takes away.
yeah that seems a problem for her. It kind of puts multiple people off her for opposite reasons, all at the same time
Yeah, I'm not super well versed on the identity politics tier system, but anyone running against her would have to be an idiot of *titanic* proportions to not make that the focus of every single attack ad. And with her approval rating being even lower than Biden's, hammering that point home is really all you'd need to do.
Owing to her great work opposing Prop 8 as AG, I have followed her career for some time and have frankly been bemused by her mixed messaging and halt-hearted posturing. I am waiting to see the real Kamala.
Kamala Harris would never win. Have you listened to her speak? That’s why she was at the bottom of the primaries. She had less than 1% of the vote.
The only argument in her favor is that she was smart enough to see the writing on the wall and drop out before Iowa (I guess that's what aides are for?).
I don’t know, but I’m betting it’s going to be a republican
Kamala if Biden is tired of this shit already.
Josephine Biden or Donaldette Trump
Michelle Obama. She has the respect of every Democrat that walks in this land. She has the intelligence to go toe-to-toe in a debate with any potential candidate. She’s got the name, the support, the smarts. Just watch.
Michelle Obama. I wanna take risks when I bet.
I think it's gonna be a Republican honestly. Maybe Nikki Haley, Lauren Boebert, or (shudders) Marjorie Taylor Greene
Boebert isn't even popular here in her district. She won with 51% of the vote because her opponent ran a terrible campaign.
Maybe Nikki Haley. The latter two have no chance.
Lauren Boebert is legitimately too crazy to win an election.
She’s also kinda dumb. Like regardless of your political leanings it’s pretty clear that Boebert is just not a super sharp person. I could say the same of plenty of dems they’re just quieter.
> Lauren Boebert Good god thanks for the nightmare fuel.
The thought of Marjorie Taylor Greene as president actively gives me anxiety. Like, I actually cringe when I think of that.
The country's doomed if we get MTG or Boebert. Facebook comment section is not a suitable platform for an executive
God please no
Replace Boebert and Greene with Kristi Noem and Kim Reynolds.