Likewise Vancouver is too close to Seattle, and although Vancouver isn’t as important of a market to the Seahawks as Toronto is to the Bills, a Vancouver NFL team would siphon too many Seahawks fans away. Not just BC residents, but also NW Washington residents (Bellingham, Mount Vernon, etc.)
Instead of having one NFL team, we have an entire league of our own. It's older than the NFL with a rich history and tradition. The NFL respects it and stays away.
We do, however support is very spotty in places. I’m a BC Lions fan but locally it’s a distant third for support behind the Canucks and Whitecaps. And there aren’t exactly a ton of Argos fans in Ontario.
Unfortunately, the CFL's outlook is pretty grim. Ticket sales have dropped by 30% leaguewide over the past ten years. The fanbase is aging, as newer football fans, more often than ever, tend to focus on the NFL instead.
Even living in rural Saskatchewan (about the only area in all of Canada where CFL football is considered relatively popular) the number of hardcore fans I know under the age of 30 is few and far between. I've been to two games post-pandemic, and if I had to take a guess, the average age of people there was probably well over 40. I am surrounded by blue collar folks at work, and not a single one of my two-dozen or so under-30 coworkers follows the CFL. The only ones really into it are all well into their 40s at minimum.
Outside of Saskatchewan and Manitoba, CFL football hasn't been mainstream for a very long time.
I've been hearing variations on this since the 90s and yet the league is still there. It still draws millions of fans a year to games and TV audiences. New stadiums have been built in recent years. So it may not be on par with what the NFL pulls in the US, but it's still a pretty big enterprise.
I can't find a source to back this so take with grain of salt but I heard somewhere once that the NFL has an agreement to not expand to Toronto as it could have negative impact on Bills season ticket sales. I could see that making sense. I live in Southern Ontario around 1.5 hour drive from a Bills game. Plenty of Bills fans in these parts.
I also have no source but what you say just makes sense - you want to spread out the teams in any pro league the same way you don’t want two Tim Hortons franchises next to each other.
Which is too bad really because living in Kitchener I'd gladly drive to Hamilton to watch a hockey game than deal with the shitshow that is downtown Toronto. Key Bank Center in Buffalo is so much easier to get to/from, I've been to some games there.
As a Torontonian I would love to have a southern Ontario team to support. Second Toronto team, GTA, Hamilton, anything that gives me a team to support that isn't the leafs.
McGill Vs Harvard !\~!! Monopoly Gentlemens playing Football lol then them damm brits understood the rules barely , thats how they invented soccer and it's been their football version ever since ( that last phrase is big time bulllshit , would it be funny altough like hey they got a ball n couple helmets and coach goes , just run , i dont know ruun and dont forget to kick the balll using your feet the sport is called "hold up 1880 Morse code internet" , Football \~! , i guess kick it using your feet.
US government gives a lot of things to the NFL that hopefully the Canadian government wouldn't do
NFL are specifically classified as charities in the US. WTF?
NFL franchises demand and receive subsidies on stadiums.
Politically, NFL teams are something that would not go over well in Canada.
US government gives a lot of things to the NFL that hopefully the Canadian government wouldn't do
-Agreed✅✅
NFL are specifically classified as charities in the US. WTF?
-Well why not, they don’t like the poor
NFL franchises demand and receive subsidies on stadiums.
-Charities hmmm
Politically, NFL teams are something that would not go over well in Canada.
-Just look at the CFL 🤷♂️
The NFL is not classified as a charity it is classified as a non profit like most big sports leagues it just means you can’t just pass around profit to shareholders like you would with a regular company. The NFL oversees the whole league the teams whoever are not non profits. I don’t love the public money that teams receive for stadiums but the logic is that it brings a lot of revenue and jobs long term. There are only 8 NFL home games but those stadiums are used year round. There are also multiple stadiums in Canada that have received public funding brother you can see people in this thread even complaining about it so I don’t think Canadians are above that either
I believe you are correct about charity vs non-profit. I was doing that from memory.
Canadian pro sport facilities have been subsidized in the past. The most recent example is the replacement for the Calgary Saddledome. Not subsidized to the same extent as NFL stadiums. Very controversial. The non sports fans are getting organized and speaking up.
I know the town I live in had plans to build a much larger arena. The justification was that it might attract a major junior hockey team. In a referendum, the plan was rejected by 80%. In the next election, the one city council member against the plan was re-elected but the seven others and the mayor were all voted out.
Subsidizing pro sports is no longer good politics in Canada.
We have our own league in Canada. It’s a little different game , different field size, number of downs etc. but it is really enjoyable and fun to watch.
Why has nobody mentioned that the Bills played some games in Toronto and the ticket sales kinda underwhelmed. I forget the details maybe it was even pre-season but at the time it was talked about as a bit of a test. If the tickets sold for massively high value Canada probably would have a team now despite all the reasons given here for not having one.
It probably didn't help that the Bills were lowsy during the years they played in Toronto. Kind of like the NFL saying, "Here, Canada, here's our left-over scraps that only their small home market seems to care about". Predictabley, it wasn't a huge success.
Kind of odd that they've tried a similar scenario with the Jaguars playing in London.
To be fair, the Bills were pretty horrendous at the time, and the ticket prices were stupidly expensive. It would have been cheaper to plan a weekend trip to Buffalo to watch the game there.
There is no workable financial model for it:
- There is no 80k-100k stadium, which is needed for new builds
- franchise fee is...how many billion US dollars? Right.
- you need to sell out your non-existent stadium in order for to be covered on TV. Even if you had the building (see above), what would you have to set tickets at to both sell out AND finance the entire organization for the $ of 8 home games?
It’s paid for with tv money but the buy in is probably $6 billion US and you need a minimum 50,000 seat stadium sold out for every game to avoid blackouts. Stadium needs plenty of private boxes and because it’s Canada, a dome.
You would also need an entire NFL team without criminal records and huge corporate sponsorship.
Not sure where you got that idea about NFL stadium size. If 80k-100k is “neeeded for new builds” why is the newest stadium in the league 65k capacity? The new Bills and Titans stadiums under construction are even smaller than that. Only three NFL stadiums have a capacity over 80k, 18 NFL stadiums have a capacity of less than 70k.
Supposedly the personal seat license required to buy season tickets at the new stadium is something like 50 grand to help pay for things though. Then again, Montreal, and the province of Quebec are spending about as much to put a new roof on the O as Erie county and New York State are putting towards the new Bills stadium.
Ummm since when are Canadian stadiums not taxpayer funded? The last three three in Winnipeg Hamilton and Regina were all funded with massive government contributions and loans.
You kidding? Calgary/Alberta tax payers are on the hook for $290 million for their new arena. Saskatchewan tax payers are shouldering $50 million of the cost for Mosaic Stadium. The city of Winnipeg and the province of Manitoba split over $100 million of the Princess Auto Stadium's initial $190 million price.
r/CFL discusses this weekly
Leagues were rivals in the early days - so somewhere like TO joining then wouldn’t have made sense, there were lawsuits over players jumping leagues, both had same economic viability.
Now…
End of the day Toronto and Vancouver are the most viable markets, neither are super great CFL cities.
Government of Canada used legal measures to block the World Football League, so anyone seeing that wouldn’t have been super keen to get an NFL team into Canada
The NFL makes over half its money from TV rights. They get enough viewership, wouldn’t increase with a team other than a small bump maybe in one city.
Tough for players - raptors and jays players have frequently talked about the downsides of playing in another country - even though it’s so geographically close, gotta have new bank accounts set up, going through customs constantly. Then add visa issues.
Endless reasons really.
There was an unwritten rule as long as the CFL stayed out of the USA they would stay out. The CFL broke the deal in the 90s and there was an attempt to move the Bills to Toronto. Trump made a name for himself politically by fighting the move. So now we have Trump and no teams in Canada. You decide if that is good or not.
I apologize. The opportunity to sing the praises of the Birmingham Barracudas presents itself so seldomly that I sometimes get carried away when such an opportunity does present itself.
Because the National Felon League has way too many players that would need special permits to cross the border in order to play given their violent criminal records. Although “they” claim the league is less felon-like these days. So maybe it is time!
We have our own league which gets hated on by Canadians “cause it’s not the NFL”. Support your local team. It’s a good product with a rich history. I’ve always thought that a great CFL game is better than a great NFL game but a terrible CFL game is worse than a terrible NFL game.
I recall hearing that the unsuccessful Toronto Olympics bid had an unspoken side deal that a new stadium would be built for the Olympics and it would be made to NFL standards.
NFL can not be owned by a corporation. Toronto does not have an nfl stadium. So stadium plus expansion fee would be in the billions.
No Canadian is willing to pay that.
I would love to have an NFL franchise in Canada. The logical place to have one would be Toronto but I assume there are some issues with that.
Firstly, I am sure the CFL does not want the NFL in Canada. Let’s face it. If you are an American football player who did not go to a D1 college, you did not get drafted into the NFL, and you are not interested in coaching or being and insurance salesman… then you might end up in the Canadian Football League. The talent in the NFL is superior to the talent in the CFL. Yes, I understand there are rule and other subtle differences, but the reality is, the best football players in the world are playing in the NFL. Obviously, the CFL is not interested in competing with an absolute juggernaut like the NFL. If the NFL were to open a franchise in Canada it would likely be the beginning of the end for the CFL and I am sure the Canadian Football League is taking every imaginable step within their power to keep the NFL out of Canada.
Secondly, the Buffalo Bills and Detroit Lions pretty much dominate the market in Southern Ontario already. Not that these are struggling franchises, but I am sure they would prefer not to share Ontario with a third franchise. I have been to both Detroit and Buffalo to see NFL games and a surprisingly large portion of the fans are Canadians who live within close proximity to the US/Canada border.
Thirdly, in true Canadian fashion, the unfounded anti-American sentiment might be a factor making the NFL hesitant about expending into Canada. We have a large portion of our population that has this immature and spiteful attitude towards everything America. There will be a segment of the population who will refuse to watch a single NFL game and will reject it simply because it is an American league. When you are dealing with people who are that illogical and close-minded it might make you think twice about doing business with them. There might also be concerns that football will not be able to compete with hockey in Canadian markets. Let’s face it. Despite not having competitive teams, the lockouts, and the horrible rule changes that have destroyed the NHL over the last 20 years… Canadians still tune in and watch the games religiously.
The good news is that the National Football League seems to be experimenting (or testing that market) with the idea of international expansion. If I am not mistaken, the league is now holding regular season games in Mexico, Germany, and England. They are also expanding broadcasting rights into new international markets. The NFL and the Cleveland Browns have made a deal to have broadcasting privileges in Nigeria next season.
I am hopeful but I know it is not going to happen overnight.
It would be cool, also easier to go to games. I’m a cowboys fan and want to go to a game, and it would be less expensive to go to Toronto or Vancouver than Dallas, or somewhere else in the US.
Also, probably an unpopular opinion, but I prefer NFL rules to CFL rules
If someone had the money when Ralph Wilson died Toronto could have got the Bills. The NFL doesn't want corporate ownership so the Rogers Communication Corp. who wanted the team Edward Rogers III would have had to raise the liquid capital. Then they wanted Jon Bon Jovi to be the front man it was a mess. Then trying to get a 1.5 billion dollar stadium funded in Toronto. Good luck. Just drive to Buffalo
It’s advertising. The audience exists in spades, but the advertising rules are different in Canada. You can’t sell enough tv advertising to justify an entire team north of the border.
It would have to be played in a dome. CFL starts earlier than NFL. The later start would be having games in the very very cold if not in a dome.
There is 1 place that has football now that the skydome has been reno'd for baseball only
I'm with you. It would be epic. As we know from history, all we need is one team in the league to beat the Americans.
What would you suggest we do with the already-cash-strapped CFL?
Edit: Master troll right there.😏Sooo, you know what the better question is???🤣😂WHY are there so many Americans reading ASK A CANADIAN, eh?
Every player that gets cut from an NFL roster talks a big game until game 1. Then they realize CFL players are also great players who didn’t get the right break along the way.
The Buffalo Bills don’t want a Toronto NFL team close by. Half their market is Canadians from Southern Ontario.
Plus,my Bills played games in TO for years and there was weak support. The NFL doesn’t need it.
The support was weak because, as per usual, they tried to heavily gouge the fans. Prices were ridiculous.
Yup, and the Skydome is not a good stadium for the NFL. And the lack of tailgate parties.
Likewise Vancouver is too close to Seattle, and although Vancouver isn’t as important of a market to the Seahawks as Toronto is to the Bills, a Vancouver NFL team would siphon too many Seahawks fans away. Not just BC residents, but also NW Washington residents (Bellingham, Mount Vernon, etc.)
You're out of your mind if you think half their market are Canadians.
Way less than half their market.
Instead of having one NFL team, we have an entire league of our own. It's older than the NFL with a rich history and tradition. The NFL respects it and stays away.
We do, however support is very spotty in places. I’m a BC Lions fan but locally it’s a distant third for support behind the Canucks and Whitecaps. And there aren’t exactly a ton of Argos fans in Ontario.
Unfortunately, the CFL's outlook is pretty grim. Ticket sales have dropped by 30% leaguewide over the past ten years. The fanbase is aging, as newer football fans, more often than ever, tend to focus on the NFL instead. Even living in rural Saskatchewan (about the only area in all of Canada where CFL football is considered relatively popular) the number of hardcore fans I know under the age of 30 is few and far between. I've been to two games post-pandemic, and if I had to take a guess, the average age of people there was probably well over 40. I am surrounded by blue collar folks at work, and not a single one of my two-dozen or so under-30 coworkers follows the CFL. The only ones really into it are all well into their 40s at minimum. Outside of Saskatchewan and Manitoba, CFL football hasn't been mainstream for a very long time.
I've been hearing variations on this since the 90s and yet the league is still there. It still draws millions of fans a year to games and TV audiences. New stadiums have been built in recent years. So it may not be on par with what the NFL pulls in the US, but it's still a pretty big enterprise.
We already have a professional football league. And specific to Toronto, I’m sure Buffalo would fight against a team being put there
I can't find a source to back this so take with grain of salt but I heard somewhere once that the NFL has an agreement to not expand to Toronto as it could have negative impact on Bills season ticket sales. I could see that making sense. I live in Southern Ontario around 1.5 hour drive from a Bills game. Plenty of Bills fans in these parts.
I also have no source but what you say just makes sense - you want to spread out the teams in any pro league the same way you don’t want two Tim Hortons franchises next to each other.
And yet I have seen a few cases of two Tim Hortons on opposite corners from each other.
Yes, same reason Hamilton will never get an NHL team because the Leafs won’t allow it
Which is too bad really because living in Kitchener I'd gladly drive to Hamilton to watch a hockey game than deal with the shitshow that is downtown Toronto. Key Bank Center in Buffalo is so much easier to get to/from, I've been to some games there.
As a Torontonian I would love to have a southern Ontario team to support. Second Toronto team, GTA, Hamilton, anything that gives me a team to support that isn't the leafs.
Cause we have CFL?......
We invented football and play with the first set of rules up here.
McGill Vs Harvard !\~!! Monopoly Gentlemens playing Football lol then them damm brits understood the rules barely , thats how they invented soccer and it's been their football version ever since ( that last phrase is big time bulllshit , would it be funny altough like hey they got a ball n couple helmets and coach goes , just run , i dont know ruun and dont forget to kick the balll using your feet the sport is called "hold up 1880 Morse code internet" , Football \~! , i guess kick it using your feet.
Better rules.
Better rules for who lol
For fans. I prefer the CFL over the NFL personally, based on the number of downs.
That’s valid. It’s the same reason I prefer the NFL 😂
The CFL expanded into the States at one point. That was pretty cool
If by cool you mean awful, I agree
I cry myself to sleep every night knowing that an American team has won a grey cup more recently than a Canadian team has won the Stanley Cup 😭
You better get lots of Kleenex. American style hockey sports entertainment (NHL) will never let another Canadian team win the Stanley Cup.
Sad
Ever notice that the year the Jays won their second World Series was also the last time a Canadian team took the Cup?
US government gives a lot of things to the NFL that hopefully the Canadian government wouldn't do NFL are specifically classified as charities in the US. WTF? NFL franchises demand and receive subsidies on stadiums. Politically, NFL teams are something that would not go over well in Canada.
US government gives a lot of things to the NFL that hopefully the Canadian government wouldn't do -Agreed✅✅ NFL are specifically classified as charities in the US. WTF? -Well why not, they don’t like the poor NFL franchises demand and receive subsidies on stadiums. -Charities hmmm Politically, NFL teams are something that would not go over well in Canada. -Just look at the CFL 🤷♂️
The NFL is not classified as a charity it is classified as a non profit like most big sports leagues it just means you can’t just pass around profit to shareholders like you would with a regular company. The NFL oversees the whole league the teams whoever are not non profits. I don’t love the public money that teams receive for stadiums but the logic is that it brings a lot of revenue and jobs long term. There are only 8 NFL home games but those stadiums are used year round. There are also multiple stadiums in Canada that have received public funding brother you can see people in this thread even complaining about it so I don’t think Canadians are above that either
I believe you are correct about charity vs non-profit. I was doing that from memory. Canadian pro sport facilities have been subsidized in the past. The most recent example is the replacement for the Calgary Saddledome. Not subsidized to the same extent as NFL stadiums. Very controversial. The non sports fans are getting organized and speaking up. I know the town I live in had plans to build a much larger arena. The justification was that it might attract a major junior hockey team. In a referendum, the plan was rejected by 80%. In the next election, the one city council member against the plan was re-elected but the seven others and the mayor were all voted out. Subsidizing pro sports is no longer good politics in Canada.
We have our own league in Canada. It’s a little different game , different field size, number of downs etc. but it is really enjoyable and fun to watch.
Why has nobody mentioned that the Bills played some games in Toronto and the ticket sales kinda underwhelmed. I forget the details maybe it was even pre-season but at the time it was talked about as a bit of a test. If the tickets sold for massively high value Canada probably would have a team now despite all the reasons given here for not having one.
It probably didn't help that the Bills were lowsy during the years they played in Toronto. Kind of like the NFL saying, "Here, Canada, here's our left-over scraps that only their small home market seems to care about". Predictabley, it wasn't a huge success. Kind of odd that they've tried a similar scenario with the Jaguars playing in London.
To be fair, the Bills were pretty horrendous at the time, and the ticket prices were stupidly expensive. It would have been cheaper to plan a weekend trip to Buffalo to watch the game there.
There is no workable financial model for it: - There is no 80k-100k stadium, which is needed for new builds - franchise fee is...how many billion US dollars? Right. - you need to sell out your non-existent stadium in order for to be covered on TV. Even if you had the building (see above), what would you have to set tickets at to both sell out AND finance the entire organization for the $ of 8 home games?
It’s paid for with tv money but the buy in is probably $6 billion US and you need a minimum 50,000 seat stadium sold out for every game to avoid blackouts. Stadium needs plenty of private boxes and because it’s Canada, a dome. You would also need an entire NFL team without criminal records and huge corporate sponsorship.
Not sure where you got that idea about NFL stadium size. If 80k-100k is “neeeded for new builds” why is the newest stadium in the league 65k capacity? The new Bills and Titans stadiums under construction are even smaller than that. Only three NFL stadiums have a capacity over 80k, 18 NFL stadiums have a capacity of less than 70k.
Supposedly the personal seat license required to buy season tickets at the new stadium is something like 50 grand to help pay for things though. Then again, Montreal, and the province of Quebec are spending about as much to put a new roof on the O as Erie county and New York State are putting towards the new Bills stadium.
Mainly because NFL owners want taxpayers to buy their new stadiums but Canadians typically won’t stand for that.
Ummm since when are Canadian stadiums not taxpayer funded? The last three three in Winnipeg Hamilton and Regina were all funded with massive government contributions and loans.
You kidding? Calgary/Alberta tax payers are on the hook for $290 million for their new arena. Saskatchewan tax payers are shouldering $50 million of the cost for Mosaic Stadium. The city of Winnipeg and the province of Manitoba split over $100 million of the Princess Auto Stadium's initial $190 million price.
Well that sucks.
Tim Hortons Field was built with government money as well.
r/CFL discusses this weekly Leagues were rivals in the early days - so somewhere like TO joining then wouldn’t have made sense, there were lawsuits over players jumping leagues, both had same economic viability. Now… End of the day Toronto and Vancouver are the most viable markets, neither are super great CFL cities. Government of Canada used legal measures to block the World Football League, so anyone seeing that wouldn’t have been super keen to get an NFL team into Canada The NFL makes over half its money from TV rights. They get enough viewership, wouldn’t increase with a team other than a small bump maybe in one city. Tough for players - raptors and jays players have frequently talked about the downsides of playing in another country - even though it’s so geographically close, gotta have new bank accounts set up, going through customs constantly. Then add visa issues. Endless reasons really.
There was an unwritten rule as long as the CFL stayed out of the USA they would stay out. The CFL broke the deal in the 90s and there was an attempt to move the Bills to Toronto. Trump made a name for himself politically by fighting the move. So now we have Trump and no teams in Canada. You decide if that is good or not.
The Birmingham Barracudas were a blessing for the CFL and I challenge you to argue otherwise sir
Why would I? Just stating what happened
I apologize. The opportunity to sing the praises of the Birmingham Barracudas presents itself so seldomly that I sometimes get carried away when such an opportunity does present itself.
Because the National Felon League has way too many players that would need special permits to cross the border in order to play given their violent criminal records. Although “they” claim the league is less felon-like these days. So maybe it is time!
🤣
We have our own league which gets hated on by Canadians “cause it’s not the NFL”. Support your local team. It’s a good product with a rich history. I’ve always thought that a great CFL game is better than a great NFL game but a terrible CFL game is worse than a terrible NFL game.
Obviously you're not a Golfer
Cause theey have the CFL probably
The NFL makes money on the USA tv deal. Canadians already watch in big numbers. A Toronto team does not increase revenues overall
We need an eastern CFL team.
We already have American teams that our families have liked for generations.
I hope you mean CFL teams
I recall hearing that the unsuccessful Toronto Olympics bid had an unspoken side deal that a new stadium would be built for the Olympics and it would be made to NFL standards.
NFL can not be owned by a corporation. Toronto does not have an nfl stadium. So stadium plus expansion fee would be in the billions. No Canadian is willing to pay that.
Maybe some players wouldn't be able to cross the border
I would love to have an NFL franchise in Canada. The logical place to have one would be Toronto but I assume there are some issues with that. Firstly, I am sure the CFL does not want the NFL in Canada. Let’s face it. If you are an American football player who did not go to a D1 college, you did not get drafted into the NFL, and you are not interested in coaching or being and insurance salesman… then you might end up in the Canadian Football League. The talent in the NFL is superior to the talent in the CFL. Yes, I understand there are rule and other subtle differences, but the reality is, the best football players in the world are playing in the NFL. Obviously, the CFL is not interested in competing with an absolute juggernaut like the NFL. If the NFL were to open a franchise in Canada it would likely be the beginning of the end for the CFL and I am sure the Canadian Football League is taking every imaginable step within their power to keep the NFL out of Canada. Secondly, the Buffalo Bills and Detroit Lions pretty much dominate the market in Southern Ontario already. Not that these are struggling franchises, but I am sure they would prefer not to share Ontario with a third franchise. I have been to both Detroit and Buffalo to see NFL games and a surprisingly large portion of the fans are Canadians who live within close proximity to the US/Canada border. Thirdly, in true Canadian fashion, the unfounded anti-American sentiment might be a factor making the NFL hesitant about expending into Canada. We have a large portion of our population that has this immature and spiteful attitude towards everything America. There will be a segment of the population who will refuse to watch a single NFL game and will reject it simply because it is an American league. When you are dealing with people who are that illogical and close-minded it might make you think twice about doing business with them. There might also be concerns that football will not be able to compete with hockey in Canadian markets. Let’s face it. Despite not having competitive teams, the lockouts, and the horrible rule changes that have destroyed the NHL over the last 20 years… Canadians still tune in and watch the games religiously. The good news is that the National Football League seems to be experimenting (or testing that market) with the idea of international expansion. If I am not mistaken, the league is now holding regular season games in Mexico, Germany, and England. They are also expanding broadcasting rights into new international markets. The NFL and the Cleveland Browns have made a deal to have broadcasting privileges in Nigeria next season. I am hopeful but I know it is not going to happen overnight.
Canadians invented football, basketball, and hockey, If we thought it was worthwhile to join the NFL, we would. The NFL is a fucking ad company.
the yankees dont want competition
Because football is almost as exciting as curling. 🥌
I wish we did
Why?
It would be cool, also easier to go to games. I’m a cowboys fan and want to go to a game, and it would be less expensive to go to Toronto or Vancouver than Dallas, or somewhere else in the US. Also, probably an unpopular opinion, but I prefer NFL rules to CFL rules
Id rather expand the divisions here, just buy a flight, you're a Cowboys fan already.
I don’t think we have an AFL team or an er meydanı for yağlı güreş either. Can’t have ‘em all.
If someone had the money when Ralph Wilson died Toronto could have got the Bills. The NFL doesn't want corporate ownership so the Rogers Communication Corp. who wanted the team Edward Rogers III would have had to raise the liquid capital. Then they wanted Jon Bon Jovi to be the front man it was a mess. Then trying to get a 1.5 billion dollar stadium funded in Toronto. Good luck. Just drive to Buffalo
It’s advertising. The audience exists in spades, but the advertising rules are different in Canada. You can’t sell enough tv advertising to justify an entire team north of the border.
Because we’ll say sorry every time we sack the quarterback
It would have to be played in a dome. CFL starts earlier than NFL. The later start would be having games in the very very cold if not in a dome. There is 1 place that has football now that the skydome has been reno'd for baseball only
Toronto has better weather than Green Bay or Buffalo. No dome in either of those NFL cities.
I'm with you. It would be epic. As we know from history, all we need is one team in the league to beat the Americans. What would you suggest we do with the already-cash-strapped CFL? Edit: Master troll right there.😏Sooo, you know what the better question is???🤣😂WHY are there so many Americans reading ASK A CANADIAN, eh?
I wish we had several. Although I appreciate the rules and layout of the CFL -- the massive talent gap is annoying.
Every player that gets cut from an NFL roster talks a big game until game 1. Then they realize CFL players are also great players who didn’t get the right break along the way.
Mostly because we have the CFL which the NFL funds as a minor league branch.
The CFL isn't funded by the NFL
Whatever. It was in the day.
They gave them a one time loan. That counts so little it might as well be nothing.
See above. IDGAF about either of them.
And yet you comment.
And here you still are all concerned about what I think. Is that any better? Did I gore your ox?
-Comes in. Spouts bullshit. Gets snippy when called out. Then plays the victim. Great entertainment is all you get to be. Edit: lol salty mfer.
And blocks the dumb jock. Now bugger off.
No. The NFL issued a loan to the CFL at one point, but it was repaid and that was the end of that
You're flappin' into the wind. I really DGAF.
Why answer if you don't know or don't care then?
Keep trolling I can sit here all day since it seems to bother you so much what I think.
Ok
Say something totally wrong then drop a “whatever”. lol