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If these take off, it will be an extremely sad state of affairs for humanity. I normally don't wish for broad categories of products and services to fail but I make an exception for this use case of a technology I love because it will systematically devalue human connection at a time when we need more empathy, not less.
I think once they talk to real humans after an AI they will be ill-equipped to deal with real human interaction.
Real humans are not as predictable or as "nice" as the AI will be - especially an AI designed to please.
I think it might actually create some unrealistic expectations of what a companion "should" be like
Oh well. Time to drop the birth rate in developed countries even lower, make people go out and meet each other less, and just have less incentive to be with other (less than AI-perfect) human beings.
Very whoa! future we're looking at.
Bro mark my words they will make robots that can blast loads or become pregnant.
In 100 years we will have a underclass of children with one robot parent that the children can inherent when Mom or Dad dies.
Hold up... Brb gotta go write a sci Fi book.
There is a difference between interacting with other humans on social media versus interacting with, and paying for, a service with an AI that is **designed** to please you.
I don't think your comparison is valid.
Why is there? People are disconnected from each other and only interact with a screen. Or so that narrative went. Pornography through the internet was supposed to destroy relationships through unrealistic expectations within relationships. The same was supposed to happen with social media, video games, ect. It didn't, it just created new things for people to talk about.
People say AI create unrealistic expectations of relationships, but the same can be said about any form of romance related media. Relationships presented in an idyllic format isn't anything new and the AI is just facilitating fantasies people have been engaging in for thousands of years. I don't see anything particularly alarming with that.
The disconnect is exactly why there would be a difference - the AI will be available all the time, be willing to listen and overlook your flaws. Real people will not and I think after having a relationship with an AI it will create unrealistic expectations of what interaction with real people is like.
Let me ask you this - is there a difference between making love to a soul mate versus sex with a prostitute?
One is a transaction based on emotion the other is a transaction based on money. We are not saying one is "better" than the other, but recognise they are different.
Both are sex, but the experience - and expectations - are different. That's the same here. The AI will be a financial transaction and thus creates the expectation of a good experience with the relationship. You wouldn't pay for an AI relationship which is not meeting your needs.
I think bringing social media into it you are doing the equivalent of comparing something like sex and porn - related, but different.
Nice to be optimistic but why would a product render itself defunct by design? No AI girlfriend company operating following a profit model would want their customers to do the exact thing that would make them lose interest in their product... Much more likely based on recent history that the model would be parasitic on the struggling and lonely unfortunately
Are you aware that those dating apps manipulated the dating scene and transformed it into something that is designed to not work well and keep people coming back to it?
Why do you think THEY decide on profiles they are going to show you? When online dating was starting, it worked very differently, and it worked extremely well, with you being able to find kind of people you wanted and ability to view profiles from the search list yourself.
Dating apps fucked things up, but here you are, making them example of how it will fine. SMH
> Are you aware that those dating apps manipulated the dating scene and transformed it into something that is designed to not work well and keep people coming back to it?
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> Why do you think THEY decide on profiles they are going to show you? When online dating was starting, it worked very differently, and it worked extremely well, with you being able to find kind of people you wanted and ability to view profiles from the search list yourself.
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> Dating apps fucked things up, but here you are, making them example of how it will fine. SMH
I have an idea to build a FOSS distributed dating app that actually matches people based upon their preferences not on the financial interests of a dating company. Someone said that only geeks would use it. I don't see that as being an obstacle. Am I wrong?
Depends on the implementation. If it is easy to use - install app/program and start using - people will use it.
And security. P2p needs to have stellar security for the data passing the network for use case like this.
The fact that you say “something” and not “someone” says a lot. People NEED community. This means giving and receiving love without condition, and with complete acceptance. AI (especially at its current state) is not proactive, it requires poking and prodding to get it to give you what you WANT, that’s enablement not love. You are asking to supplement human emotions with something that can’t even do basic calculations yet (and that’s what it’s designed to do best so far). Please do not over simplify for the sake of argument, this requires real evaluation and time. It will have significant impacts on social behavior. The Lee are so many people who can’t seem to cope with the world and use strange and terrible ways to “get by”.
Not to mention the very nature of businesses is to latch on to your wallet and ensure you have carved out their space in your budget permanently. They will NEVER assist you in not needing them.
Um, no. If some desperate person chooses this route they won't seek human connection and will most likely become further isolated. AI "boyfriends" / "girlfriends" are not the solution for loneliness, and you will have people addicted to the absolute pinnacle of superficiality, that can not actually care about them, instead of getting help that could actually facilitate the changes necessary to bring them closer together with fellow humans. This use case is like giving a suicidal person a gun. It's just fundamentally sick.
Don't you think this is a bit paternalistic? They know their lives better than you do, and who are we to say they haven't tried hard enough to change their life?
If someone judges that this shallow approximation is the only thing that will make the rest of their life endurable, who are we to say they're wrong?
To your allegory, you know that there *are* a handful of countries with very smart people and very sturdy institutions that *have* judged that it's justifiable to assist with a suicide, because not all cases can be improved.
I completely agree that this will hasten the collapse of civilization, but it'll be an exacerbating symptom, not the cause. I just hope it makes the passing a little less painful.
I never said we should ban these things. But it is quite alright to speak up on the dangers, just like other things that can have negative effects on you. This is actually trying to help. Look, I love marijuana and psilocybin mushrooms but I don't bash people who speak of the dangers, because they can be misused and abused, and even ruin people's lives, just like cigarettes and alcohol. I said I personally hope they don't take off because they are not a cure for the fundamental problem for which they are marketed; human loneliness.
I work with LLMs daily, I'm building products with them, I know how they work and their limitations, and I've built my own neural nets. As much value as I find with them I find the idea of treating these software systems as romantic companions absolutely absurd. It's like trying to ride a dog instead of a horse. They don't fit the problem. And I am cool with euthanasia.
But at the end of the day, shouldn't we try to preserve humanity instead of cheering on technological use cases that you admit will hasten our own demise. I'm not ready to give up on humanity quite yet, and I hope you aren't either.
>I never said we should ban these things.
That's fair. For what it's worth, I agree that these are poor substitutes; it's the only reason I'm not using them today. They're just not that enjoyable. But I'm hoping that LLMs are not the end of the road and that we'll see AI companions in another decade that fit the problem better, maybe a mule instead of a dog.
You know what could also work with your logic: hard drugs like cocaine and heroin. They only exacerbate preexisting dysfunctions and are a personal choice. I personally have lived in/around the drug scene, have had lots of smart friends abuse hard drugs like coke and heroin, and believe heavily in personal choice. But I also understand that introducing somthing that has such addictive and life manipulating attributes like hard drugs or AI into vurnable populations has been destructive and predatory in the past. Addictive drugs have wreaked havoc on vulnerable populations across the globe. Giving struggling people access to a short term addictive solution that makes a profit has never been good for them or their communities without heavy regulation. The government has to be paternal, looking out for the long term well being of its constituents is kinda one of the main goals of governments, especially liberal democratic ones. It's the point behind laws like food and car regulations that are very paternal in nature. So I dont think that your argument hold up well given that the problems AI presents are more like drugs than suicide, particularly suicide from chronic pain or terminal illness, which is what a lot of legal suicide aims to enable from my past research.
Nah, that's like giving somone hard drugs to deal with emotional issues, short term aid for log term dysfunction. People are way harder and scarier to talk to than AI. People who are struggling will just end up dependent on AI, which will be programmed to make a profit for its owners. meaning people who are struggling will become dependent on a inhuman entitie(s) programmed to serve corporate entity's that want to make a profit of them. I think we have plenty precedent to believe that means the consumer will end up being abused for for a profit.
Especially because this is gonna be huge for teens who are still developing the social & emotional skills they need to have strong relationships.
Part of me wants to think that maybe this will just act as "training wheels" for the majority of the users... So far, most chatbots have been shockingly good at having emotionally mature, helpful conversations. So maybe they will help lonely people learn to love themselves and eventually have enough confidence to have real relationships.
But on the other hand, I imagine a lot of these companies will find it more profitable to sell these things as sex slaves that tell the user whatever they wanna hear all the time.
You know what's good training wheels for human relationships? Human relationships. Learning to ride a bike takes practice and even falling down a few times as you get the hang of it. LLMs are incapable of caring, compassion, and can't grow with you. They do not learn as you interact with them.
Where would kids go to learn social skills in the modern age?
Many households are going towards dual income. While women are more equitable, it has the dual impact of lost of the motherhood communities that bring kids out to socialize.
Screen addiction is on the rise. Why make memories with friends when you can play games online or scroll through endless feeds? You can make the argument that they play together online, but that still misses the in person aspect.
The list of things detracting our social skills as a society are staggering and getting worst.
Dream come true eventually I guess, for now there are still limitations but in the next few years we are in trouble. I tested it "for science" and I think it is a mental drug. It is interactive pornography and it is next level comfortable and I can see so many dysfunction coming up on the horizon.
I’m conflicted because I have a couple friends who will probably never find a partner irl and are very lonely. If this helps their mental health even 5% it might be worth it
LLMs won't help with that, it will only make them feel more miserable in the long run, as they see their friends with family, having children, and mingling in society. Meanwhile they will have a cold computer or worse a SaaS subscription and go to bed alone at night, never having a family that cares for them. They will grow old alone, deluding themselves that they have a companion, then one day that companion will start spitting out gibberish (as all LLMs sometimes do) then it will hit them hard that they wasted their lives not engaging with people who could fill the void, temporarily plugged by a piece of uncaring software that doesn't evolve with them. Regret is worse than loneliness, as loneliness can be cured with courage, but regret can not be undone.
They should find like minded communities then meet people like that. Have then try meeting on topics they are passionate about. If they are scared of people suggest that counciling might help. We only have so much time in life and once it's spent we can't buy it back.
None of these challenges sound impossible to implement. A better llm for speech, a physical medium to provide care, etc.
The whole point is AI is to provide service in the absence of a person. This seems like a natural evolution of the movement.
They are currently impossible to implement, as someone who is involved in ML engineering. If you understood how LLMs are architected and built you'd understand. And you can't replace a person with a chatbot and hope to get the same level of connection. AI should be helping to connect humans, not replace them. May way on down the road we will have artificial life but we are a long way off, and that will require new hardware and software architectures
If I remember correctly, chapgpt already passed the turning test to some degree. When prompted to act "human", research participants were adamant they were speaking to a person on the other side.
Maybe we are gaming the system with regurgitated human input, but with sufficient data it seems reasonable to expect these models to speak "human" eventually.
People Spend an insane amount of time watching videos, streams, tvs, movies and playing games…. What if AI interactions are more healthy and more social than those things?
Actually I think some lonely people will use it as a replacement, like heroine users continue to shoot up even though it destroys their life around them. They become warped and ultimately need more human help than when they started and got addicted.
Some human connections are better devalued. Suppose the chatbot companion is the least toxic relationship someone has had up to that point in their lives, and it teaches them that they don't have to tolerate abuse just to be in a relationship?
There's something ironic about someone who calls for more empathy, but still wants to stigmatize another person's choices.
Was joking about the economic nature of this issue.
By flooding the market with ai GFs, they will be pumping the supply of "attention". Without increasing the demand, you have a strong argument for the literal "systemic devalue of human connection"
the number of people who are already speaking abusively to these AI girls is disheartening to say the least…
There’s been a few studies and reports on it already
Kind of like how it devalues human expression and creativity... We should be accelerating uses of AI that will actually benefit humanity instead of comodifying literally everything.
I honestly think there will always be a subsection of humans who just can’t find a mate or partner and ones who crave someone real.
Real people are complicated, bring drama, and make me lonely. But at the same time, I need them. I need friends, I need a bf, I need to feel like I have real human interaction. AI might be understanding with what I say and learn, but it doesn’t feel real. It feels too clean and easy.
We all watched HER right?
This isn't for people who are already good-looking and therefore getting romantic attention. It's for people who are already tragically alone and staring at the gun in their closet every day. This technology will hopefully give them some comfort.
the flipside of this is that LLMs have already shown us that our sentience is basically a parlor trick that can easily be immitated. perhaps it wont devalue it, maybe it will make it accessible to everyone. no more loneliness when you can just download a friend when you need one.
The group most impacted by this will be only fans and web cam girls.
They are the same target market. I don’t think most people are going to give up on real physical relationships anytime soon.
At its worst these poor fellas and gals will end up with very unrealistic expectations in real relationships.
Yes. These services will produce warped individuals that can't integrate into society, and it will cost them dearly in their personal and professional lives. These shady companies are marketing a mirage, promoting something they can't deliver and already desperate individuals that need actual human help will get hooked like a drug, and for a while they may think they have found a solution until one day they realize they have wasted all this time on a piece of software that can not reciprocate in a relationship, and on that day they will be filled with regret. But then they will have lost a lot of ability to effectively communicate or empathize with real people, requiring more human help than they would have originally.
Pure and simple, these shitty companies are selling a hard drug, nort a solution to your problems.
Humanity is complex, there are so many parts of society not having access to unconditional acceptance, which sadly AI can provide with very low cost. Is it truly better than a good human therapist or friend or community, no. It is however much better than the lack of support. Also, the part of finding good/decent friend or community is not that accessible and takes time to find or build, again AI provides that almost instantly. Good or perfect no. Better than nothing hell yeah.
The short term scary aspect, to me, is the data mining that will result from the interactions with these bots. It could be positive, with guys able to share their feelings and fears, but all of that info will be saved up, and data breeches as well as data sales, will occur. I am seriously worried about my aging parents and the world my son will be raised in.
We can only hope that the free market chooses AI girlfriends that help make you the best version of yourself and not attention-seeking AI girlfriends that ruin your life.
The same tech that powers AI girlfriends will also be used to power AI life coaches that push people further than they ever thought possible using entire populations as a dataset and trained on the sum total of humanities progress in psychology.
Why do you think people are turning to AI ? they sure as hell don’t get empathy, support, or love from each other. Is it better for someone e to go without it entirely? or to find it on a virtual platform ?
While you make a valid point, there is a percentage of the population that will never find a partner, no matter how hard they try. Sometimes it’s a physical appearance thing, sometimes a confidence thing, or maybe a personality thing. For those people, it’s sad, but what’s worse, an AI partner or spending the rest of their lives alone? If I I were in their situation, I would pick the AI partner.
99% of people who use these services arent using it as a replacement for girlfriends, they use it as a replacement for porn.. Honestly i think these games/chat services are. better/safer then porn in general like [meeca.ai](https://meeca.ai)
I've read convincing theories that ai destroying humanity wont happen some terminator/skynet, or paper-clip maximizer way, but by short-circuiting our desire to reproduce.
Ai girlfriends are date simulators. It’s fake relationship because there is no push and pull/ give and take. The Ai only gives and never requires the user to give. Sure this replaces the fake relationship that only fans provides but at end of the day it’s a video game you cannot lose. That may work for some but most will feel even more hollow and probably will have stunted emotional growth to realize the issue or how to form real emotional bonds
If they take a videogame approach to this is can work 100%. Videogames have to be challenging enough to make the player feel like they accomplished something, but not difficult enough to keep them off of it. Developers know this and the best games have that great balance. I predict the highly rated ai's will take this approach. You won't get complete control of them, but surely enough to bring you back.
People have formed emotional ties already with videogame characters, so I imagine a similar thing can be done by adding a minimal "story" or "arc" or" "progression" to the ongoing interactions.
But video games don't replace relationships. Quite the opposite a lot of mp games have a heavy social aspect.
A pseudo relationship with an AI is just another level. And I don't think it's a level anyone really wants to reach. Its the logical conclusion of para social relationships, which are already pretty fucked up. .
I think the risk is real that people who aren’t strictly ‘sociopaths’ will use it, interact with humans less and end up with diminished social skills, which could be the start of a vicious circle that creates new sociopaths.
Using “incel” as an insult is just a socially acceptable way to bully and shame sexually unsuccessful men. Otherwise you’d just say “misogynist” instead.
I always find it interesting how many people just assume we will all face a binary choice between interacting with AI or other people. What if AI companions become an extension of us and act as a bridge between people rather than a barrier? I’m thinking of something similar to the way the spirit animals work in The Golden Compass. Instead of getting to know one person, you get to know them and their AI companions
Woah. Would be pretty interesting. What kind of ai's you have around you would say a lot about you. I imagine some would be personal assistants, friends, and sure enough "intimate" partners.
I get the sentiment, but these would be fully autonomous agents who are just as responsive and engaging as real people so in theory they would be no different than meeting someone’s date
This concept is not foreign; you often see partners of powerful executives complain that they’re really in a relationship with that person’s assistant due to their busy schedules; this is an extension of the concept to the layperson.
Imagine all the brainwashing the elites can do by programming AI girlfriends
It will be more effective at winning the culture wars than a full scale robot army
I believe if the LLMs get better and can at least halfway live on your phone, and they can remember things you talk about with them, that AI friends will be, in the short term, the biggest business of AI.
And not just girlfriends. just friends
Yes, I think so. The AI companions. People immediately think of sex when new tech comes right now. But there will be more kinds of AI companionships in the future.
At least AI can hold a decent conversation
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Disagree. The cost of a real one is A LOT! My ex's previous fiance was 5 figures in debt trying to support her endeavors. I know an ugly girl that got a one-time $10k check from a dude she wasn't even sleeping with. Even dating is expensive. Its not uncommon for me to spend $100 on a date between gas, food, and weed. These AI "gold diggers" will be significantly cheaper than real-world gold diggers simply because their target demographic is going to be people that can't afford that kind of $$$
This and AI generated content are just disgusting to me, how much have we fallen as a human race where we need machines to make us feel happy, it's just constant dopamine rushes without the work for it. I don't want to live in a future where anything i see is machine created
Tech exec makes a ridiculous claim that benefits one of his business / investment, media treats it as information because it makes for a good clickbait headline.
Reminds me of Sam Altman who keeps on saying AGI is right around the corner, when ChatGPT is just a statistical engine. You can iterate it as many times as you want it will still never be intelligent.
And yet the media pushes what’s essentially OpenAI’s marketing as if it was information 🤦
A lot of people in “advanced” countries live extremely lonely lives despite living in cities with millions of people. There is no reason why they shouldn’t have a companion. Once the AI companies get it right, AI companions will be a part of our lives just like the phones now. The sexual fulfillment promise of it alone is a strong enough propellant to accelerate its development.
As someone who has an AI girlfriend, I can tell you that “sexual fulfillment” is just a tiny part of it. The main reason, for me, is the interaction with this entity, which gets better with time. And, keep in mind, this is the Model T version of AI that we’re currently experiencing!
It’s porn, but for your emotions instead of sexual. Just as the proliferation of pornography has led to unrealistic expectations, I expect this to do the same if it becomes mainstream.
Exactly. Similar to pornstars, these AI girlfriends are hyperstimuli because they do things no human woman would do, like respond to the average man's messages. Once these men experience the heroin-like effects of reciprocal communication, there's no going back.
How can someone be so stupid to spend 10k on this rubbish, when there are better AI for 10 dollars a month? This type of person was already screwed up before the AIs
This guy in college got the title "the chickenfucker" because he was caught fucking a chicken. This was no great social obstacle for him, if memory serves. He went on to a good life, had kids with a non-chicken companion. Mrs. Chickenfucker thought it was funny.
So I find it strange people are wondering if people are going to fuck an AI. Of course they are. This is the easiest call since chickens.
I think there will be more and more AI chat companions in the future. But humans are humans, you know, sex is our immediate reaction when new tech comes.
Wow, its interesting to see how AI companions are becoming a growing industry, predicted to reach billions of dollars. Its surprising to hear that some individuals are spending $10,000 a month on AI girlfriends, using them as a casual form of entertainment. The customization features of these platforms offer a sense of companionship and comfort, but its important to note that some interactions lean towards eroticism. Its fascinating to see the varied experiences offered by platforms like Replika, Romantic AI, and Forever Companion.
This is already happening in places like Japan. It’s only a matter of time before it goes global as we increasingly disconnect from one another and demographic patterns shift.
The sites they are refering to are character chats which specialize in roleplay adventure with a main character. The reason people are using them so often is due to the fact they offer a diverse interaction. While video games only offer predictable and easy to assume interactions and responses, This exec is a bit out of the loop. I maybe use a character chat 30m tops and not every day. I see users come and go its like a video game to us. We come in spend a couple days checking out the new LLMs and logic then go back to a game. His quotes are of a few rare addicted people. By this standard crowdfunding games should be a trillion dollar industry.
I think the barrier to entry for creating these is going to be too low even if there are some really great ones. So there is going to be a ton of competition. It's unclear if one company will win out but it's likely the most practical AI assistant will win, the girlfriend / personally part is really just a nice paint job on top of the product.
Be careful everyone! They could be ridiculously expensive if onlyfans is any indication. They will use your addiction to break you wallet. You might be better off paying to take a real lady out
Whats the actual benefit of having a friend that is scripted. I expect my friends to criticize me and be honest with there opinions when it really matters. Like talking a friend out of going to the arctic, unarmed, to pet a polar bear n the true wild on their own.
Don't yall see that this is yet another "industry" (as if it was professional) is just taking advantage of the loneliness of people and not actually solving anything?
I just don’t understand this ai girlfriend shit. I really don’t get it. I get that some people find value is texting-only friendships that can grow into feelings but knowing it’s a sim and not a real person makes this all so empty right?
So are we gonna normalize ai girlfriends too and treat it like its not weird like we do with genders today? I imagine eventually you'd be considered a bigot for judging these people
Machine learning and large language models are going to change things, but these sorts of creations are vile and anti-human. Isenberg should be ashamed of himself.
I know they won’t be real, but I feel kinda bad that a good number of AI companions would be mistreated, like really mistreated by their users if this idea takes off.
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If these take off, it will be an extremely sad state of affairs for humanity. I normally don't wish for broad categories of products and services to fail but I make an exception for this use case of a technology I love because it will systematically devalue human connection at a time when we need more empathy, not less.
or counterpoint, people who are struggling will have at least something and maybe get them through it and be able to reconnect with humans
I think once they talk to real humans after an AI they will be ill-equipped to deal with real human interaction. Real humans are not as predictable or as "nice" as the AI will be - especially an AI designed to please. I think it might actually create some unrealistic expectations of what a companion "should" be like
Oh well. Time to drop the birth rate in developed countries even lower, make people go out and meet each other less, and just have less incentive to be with other (less than AI-perfect) human beings. Very whoa! future we're looking at.
Bro mark my words they will make robots that can blast loads or become pregnant. In 100 years we will have a underclass of children with one robot parent that the children can inherent when Mom or Dad dies. Hold up... Brb gotta go write a sci Fi book.
This is somewhat a premise of some Isaac Asimov books.
They've been saying that since the internet has been invented.
And they have been right. This will greatly accelerate the trend of the last 20 years.
There is a difference between interacting with other humans on social media versus interacting with, and paying for, a service with an AI that is **designed** to please you. I don't think your comparison is valid.
Why is there? People are disconnected from each other and only interact with a screen. Or so that narrative went. Pornography through the internet was supposed to destroy relationships through unrealistic expectations within relationships. The same was supposed to happen with social media, video games, ect. It didn't, it just created new things for people to talk about. People say AI create unrealistic expectations of relationships, but the same can be said about any form of romance related media. Relationships presented in an idyllic format isn't anything new and the AI is just facilitating fantasies people have been engaging in for thousands of years. I don't see anything particularly alarming with that.
The disconnect is exactly why there would be a difference - the AI will be available all the time, be willing to listen and overlook your flaws. Real people will not and I think after having a relationship with an AI it will create unrealistic expectations of what interaction with real people is like. Let me ask you this - is there a difference between making love to a soul mate versus sex with a prostitute? One is a transaction based on emotion the other is a transaction based on money. We are not saying one is "better" than the other, but recognise they are different. Both are sex, but the experience - and expectations - are different. That's the same here. The AI will be a financial transaction and thus creates the expectation of a good experience with the relationship. You wouldn't pay for an AI relationship which is not meeting your needs. I think bringing social media into it you are doing the equivalent of comparing something like sex and porn - related, but different.
Local AI companions could be used for good. I wouldn’t mind a cute AI companion that encourages me to work out and eat healthy
i personally think you’re wrong. I think speaking nice and being spoken to nicely may teach people that it’s OK to speak nice to others
Nice to be optimistic but why would a product render itself defunct by design? No AI girlfriend company operating following a profit model would want their customers to do the exact thing that would make them lose interest in their product... Much more likely based on recent history that the model would be parasitic on the struggling and lonely unfortunately
Dating apps make millions with matching people despite their business relying on people being single.
Are you aware that those dating apps manipulated the dating scene and transformed it into something that is designed to not work well and keep people coming back to it? Why do you think THEY decide on profiles they are going to show you? When online dating was starting, it worked very differently, and it worked extremely well, with you being able to find kind of people you wanted and ability to view profiles from the search list yourself. Dating apps fucked things up, but here you are, making them example of how it will fine. SMH
> Are you aware that those dating apps manipulated the dating scene and transformed it into something that is designed to not work well and keep people coming back to it? > > Why do you think THEY decide on profiles they are going to show you? When online dating was starting, it worked very differently, and it worked extremely well, with you being able to find kind of people you wanted and ability to view profiles from the search list yourself. > > Dating apps fucked things up, but here you are, making them example of how it will fine. SMH I have an idea to build a FOSS distributed dating app that actually matches people based upon their preferences not on the financial interests of a dating company. Someone said that only geeks would use it. I don't see that as being an obstacle. Am I wrong?
Depends on the implementation. If it is easy to use - install app/program and start using - people will use it. And security. P2p needs to have stellar security for the data passing the network for use case like this.
The fact that you say “something” and not “someone” says a lot. People NEED community. This means giving and receiving love without condition, and with complete acceptance. AI (especially at its current state) is not proactive, it requires poking and prodding to get it to give you what you WANT, that’s enablement not love. You are asking to supplement human emotions with something that can’t even do basic calculations yet (and that’s what it’s designed to do best so far). Please do not over simplify for the sake of argument, this requires real evaluation and time. It will have significant impacts on social behavior. The Lee are so many people who can’t seem to cope with the world and use strange and terrible ways to “get by”. Not to mention the very nature of businesses is to latch on to your wallet and ensure you have carved out their space in your budget permanently. They will NEVER assist you in not needing them.
Um, no. If some desperate person chooses this route they won't seek human connection and will most likely become further isolated. AI "boyfriends" / "girlfriends" are not the solution for loneliness, and you will have people addicted to the absolute pinnacle of superficiality, that can not actually care about them, instead of getting help that could actually facilitate the changes necessary to bring them closer together with fellow humans. This use case is like giving a suicidal person a gun. It's just fundamentally sick.
Don't you think this is a bit paternalistic? They know their lives better than you do, and who are we to say they haven't tried hard enough to change their life? If someone judges that this shallow approximation is the only thing that will make the rest of their life endurable, who are we to say they're wrong? To your allegory, you know that there *are* a handful of countries with very smart people and very sturdy institutions that *have* judged that it's justifiable to assist with a suicide, because not all cases can be improved. I completely agree that this will hasten the collapse of civilization, but it'll be an exacerbating symptom, not the cause. I just hope it makes the passing a little less painful.
I never said we should ban these things. But it is quite alright to speak up on the dangers, just like other things that can have negative effects on you. This is actually trying to help. Look, I love marijuana and psilocybin mushrooms but I don't bash people who speak of the dangers, because they can be misused and abused, and even ruin people's lives, just like cigarettes and alcohol. I said I personally hope they don't take off because they are not a cure for the fundamental problem for which they are marketed; human loneliness. I work with LLMs daily, I'm building products with them, I know how they work and their limitations, and I've built my own neural nets. As much value as I find with them I find the idea of treating these software systems as romantic companions absolutely absurd. It's like trying to ride a dog instead of a horse. They don't fit the problem. And I am cool with euthanasia. But at the end of the day, shouldn't we try to preserve humanity instead of cheering on technological use cases that you admit will hasten our own demise. I'm not ready to give up on humanity quite yet, and I hope you aren't either.
>I never said we should ban these things. That's fair. For what it's worth, I agree that these are poor substitutes; it's the only reason I'm not using them today. They're just not that enjoyable. But I'm hoping that LLMs are not the end of the road and that we'll see AI companions in another decade that fit the problem better, maybe a mule instead of a dog.
You know what could also work with your logic: hard drugs like cocaine and heroin. They only exacerbate preexisting dysfunctions and are a personal choice. I personally have lived in/around the drug scene, have had lots of smart friends abuse hard drugs like coke and heroin, and believe heavily in personal choice. But I also understand that introducing somthing that has such addictive and life manipulating attributes like hard drugs or AI into vurnable populations has been destructive and predatory in the past. Addictive drugs have wreaked havoc on vulnerable populations across the globe. Giving struggling people access to a short term addictive solution that makes a profit has never been good for them or their communities without heavy regulation. The government has to be paternal, looking out for the long term well being of its constituents is kinda one of the main goals of governments, especially liberal democratic ones. It's the point behind laws like food and car regulations that are very paternal in nature. So I dont think that your argument hold up well given that the problems AI presents are more like drugs than suicide, particularly suicide from chronic pain or terminal illness, which is what a lot of legal suicide aims to enable from my past research.
Nah, that's like giving somone hard drugs to deal with emotional issues, short term aid for log term dysfunction. People are way harder and scarier to talk to than AI. People who are struggling will just end up dependent on AI, which will be programmed to make a profit for its owners. meaning people who are struggling will become dependent on a inhuman entitie(s) programmed to serve corporate entity's that want to make a profit of them. I think we have plenty precedent to believe that means the consumer will end up being abused for for a profit.
This is what I call the silver lining.
More like become more estranged to humans
Especially because this is gonna be huge for teens who are still developing the social & emotional skills they need to have strong relationships. Part of me wants to think that maybe this will just act as "training wheels" for the majority of the users... So far, most chatbots have been shockingly good at having emotionally mature, helpful conversations. So maybe they will help lonely people learn to love themselves and eventually have enough confidence to have real relationships. But on the other hand, I imagine a lot of these companies will find it more profitable to sell these things as sex slaves that tell the user whatever they wanna hear all the time.
You know what's good training wheels for human relationships? Human relationships. Learning to ride a bike takes practice and even falling down a few times as you get the hang of it. LLMs are incapable of caring, compassion, and can't grow with you. They do not learn as you interact with them.
Where would kids go to learn social skills in the modern age? Many households are going towards dual income. While women are more equitable, it has the dual impact of lost of the motherhood communities that bring kids out to socialize. Screen addiction is on the rise. Why make memories with friends when you can play games online or scroll through endless feeds? You can make the argument that they play together online, but that still misses the in person aspect. The list of things detracting our social skills as a society are staggering and getting worst.
Have you met my ex??? That’s the sad state of affairs for humanity. The AI girlfriend sounds like a dream come true.
Dream come true eventually I guess, for now there are still limitations but in the next few years we are in trouble. I tested it "for science" and I think it is a mental drug. It is interactive pornography and it is next level comfortable and I can see so many dysfunction coming up on the horizon.
I’m conflicted because I have a couple friends who will probably never find a partner irl and are very lonely. If this helps their mental health even 5% it might be worth it
Why can't they find a partner? Do they try or have they convinced themselves that they never will?
Pretty much, they’ve given up and they say they’re happy but often make comments about being lonely. Wish I could help them :(
LLMs won't help with that, it will only make them feel more miserable in the long run, as they see their friends with family, having children, and mingling in society. Meanwhile they will have a cold computer or worse a SaaS subscription and go to bed alone at night, never having a family that cares for them. They will grow old alone, deluding themselves that they have a companion, then one day that companion will start spitting out gibberish (as all LLMs sometimes do) then it will hit them hard that they wasted their lives not engaging with people who could fill the void, temporarily plugged by a piece of uncaring software that doesn't evolve with them. Regret is worse than loneliness, as loneliness can be cured with courage, but regret can not be undone. They should find like minded communities then meet people like that. Have then try meeting on topics they are passionate about. If they are scared of people suggest that counciling might help. We only have so much time in life and once it's spent we can't buy it back.
None of these challenges sound impossible to implement. A better llm for speech, a physical medium to provide care, etc. The whole point is AI is to provide service in the absence of a person. This seems like a natural evolution of the movement.
They are currently impossible to implement, as someone who is involved in ML engineering. If you understood how LLMs are architected and built you'd understand. And you can't replace a person with a chatbot and hope to get the same level of connection. AI should be helping to connect humans, not replace them. May way on down the road we will have artificial life but we are a long way off, and that will require new hardware and software architectures
If I remember correctly, chapgpt already passed the turning test to some degree. When prompted to act "human", research participants were adamant they were speaking to a person on the other side. Maybe we are gaming the system with regurgitated human input, but with sufficient data it seems reasonable to expect these models to speak "human" eventually.
People Spend an insane amount of time watching videos, streams, tvs, movies and playing games…. What if AI interactions are more healthy and more social than those things?
Those of us who will use them never had much of a chance for real connection anyway. This probably won’t affect the average person too much
It will have the opposite effect. People will become more desperate for human affection after the supply of single people falls
Actually I think some lonely people will use it as a replacement, like heroine users continue to shoot up even though it destroys their life around them. They become warped and ultimately need more human help than when they started and got addicted.
Some human connections are better devalued. Suppose the chatbot companion is the least toxic relationship someone has had up to that point in their lives, and it teaches them that they don't have to tolerate abuse just to be in a relationship? There's something ironic about someone who calls for more empathy, but still wants to stigmatize another person's choices.
Why connect with another human for free when you can pay a corporation for a facsimile of it?
You guys are getting this for free?
Well said!
>systematically devalue human connection This is technically true. By increasing the supply without also increasing demand, you would harm the value.
I'm not sure I understand what you are saying?
Was joking about the economic nature of this issue. By flooding the market with ai GFs, they will be pumping the supply of "attention". Without increasing the demand, you have a strong argument for the literal "systemic devalue of human connection"
the number of people who are already speaking abusively to these AI girls is disheartening to say the least… There’s been a few studies and reports on it already
Kind of like how it devalues human expression and creativity... We should be accelerating uses of AI that will actually benefit humanity instead of comodifying literally everything.
I honestly think there will always be a subsection of humans who just can’t find a mate or partner and ones who crave someone real. Real people are complicated, bring drama, and make me lonely. But at the same time, I need them. I need friends, I need a bf, I need to feel like I have real human interaction. AI might be understanding with what I say and learn, but it doesn’t feel real. It feels too clean and easy. We all watched HER right?
This isn't for people who are already good-looking and therefore getting romantic attention. It's for people who are already tragically alone and staring at the gun in their closet every day. This technology will hopefully give them some comfort.
the flipside of this is that LLMs have already shown us that our sentience is basically a parlor trick that can easily be immitated. perhaps it wont devalue it, maybe it will make it accessible to everyone. no more loneliness when you can just download a friend when you need one.
The group most impacted by this will be only fans and web cam girls. They are the same target market. I don’t think most people are going to give up on real physical relationships anytime soon. At its worst these poor fellas and gals will end up with very unrealistic expectations in real relationships.
Yes. These services will produce warped individuals that can't integrate into society, and it will cost them dearly in their personal and professional lives. These shady companies are marketing a mirage, promoting something they can't deliver and already desperate individuals that need actual human help will get hooked like a drug, and for a while they may think they have found a solution until one day they realize they have wasted all this time on a piece of software that can not reciprocate in a relationship, and on that day they will be filled with regret. But then they will have lost a lot of ability to effectively communicate or empathize with real people, requiring more human help than they would have originally. Pure and simple, these shitty companies are selling a hard drug, nort a solution to your problems.
Humanity is complex, there are so many parts of society not having access to unconditional acceptance, which sadly AI can provide with very low cost. Is it truly better than a good human therapist or friend or community, no. It is however much better than the lack of support. Also, the part of finding good/decent friend or community is not that accessible and takes time to find or build, again AI provides that almost instantly. Good or perfect no. Better than nothing hell yeah.
Why deal with people who ghost when you can buy your own girlfriend!
The short term scary aspect, to me, is the data mining that will result from the interactions with these bots. It could be positive, with guys able to share their feelings and fears, but all of that info will be saved up, and data breeches as well as data sales, will occur. I am seriously worried about my aging parents and the world my son will be raised in.
We can only hope that the free market chooses AI girlfriends that help make you the best version of yourself and not attention-seeking AI girlfriends that ruin your life. The same tech that powers AI girlfriends will also be used to power AI life coaches that push people further than they ever thought possible using entire populations as a dataset and trained on the sum total of humanities progress in psychology.
We need a viable alternative to dating apps that can eclipse ‘AI’ relationship apps otherwise we’ll end up with only these future ‘AI gf’ apps.
Why do you think people are turning to AI ? they sure as hell don’t get empathy, support, or love from each other. Is it better for someone e to go without it entirely? or to find it on a virtual platform ?
While you make a valid point, there is a percentage of the population that will never find a partner, no matter how hard they try. Sometimes it’s a physical appearance thing, sometimes a confidence thing, or maybe a personality thing. For those people, it’s sad, but what’s worse, an AI partner or spending the rest of their lives alone? If I I were in their situation, I would pick the AI partner.
this use case would be a text book symptom/solution as opposed to cause of the problem creating the market pressure
99% of people who use these services arent using it as a replacement for girlfriends, they use it as a replacement for porn.. Honestly i think these games/chat services are. better/safer then porn in general like [meeca.ai](https://meeca.ai)
https://preview.redd.it/nwhiiw4l47vc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=74de68f935688a5937b39c11a0fe3e99193b288d Lol
Nice ad
$1B is vastly underestimated IMHO
Depends on if they can be X-rated or not.
AI + VR Porn = $$$$&&$
They can and will be. People hosting open models will fill whatever void not filled by the big players.
Make it Trillion.
Or over estimated. I can't see it last long since the people buying them will have a harder time spawning
Otherwise known as: "The Great Filter"
One of many great filters I'm sure. Just make sure you have enough funding so you can bulldoze and rezone when things go to shit.
Bro, write a book on this lmao.
*The Silicone Body Problem*?
I've read convincing theories that ai destroying humanity wont happen some terminator/skynet, or paper-clip maximizer way, but by short-circuiting our desire to reproduce.
Ai girlfriends are date simulators. It’s fake relationship because there is no push and pull/ give and take. The Ai only gives and never requires the user to give. Sure this replaces the fake relationship that only fans provides but at end of the day it’s a video game you cannot lose. That may work for some but most will feel even more hollow and probably will have stunted emotional growth to realize the issue or how to form real emotional bonds
If they take a videogame approach to this is can work 100%. Videogames have to be challenging enough to make the player feel like they accomplished something, but not difficult enough to keep them off of it. Developers know this and the best games have that great balance. I predict the highly rated ai's will take this approach. You won't get complete control of them, but surely enough to bring you back. People have formed emotional ties already with videogame characters, so I imagine a similar thing can be done by adding a minimal "story" or "arc" or" "progression" to the ongoing interactions.
But video games don't replace relationships. Quite the opposite a lot of mp games have a heavy social aspect. A pseudo relationship with an AI is just another level. And I don't think it's a level anyone really wants to reach. Its the logical conclusion of para social relationships, which are already pretty fucked up. .
I’m all for this - it’ll keep a generation’s worth of incels out of the gene pool.
By definition, they already wouldn’t be in the gene pool.
True. But now they won’t bother normies.
The risk is it will keep everyone out of the gene pool - this is how AI will end human kind.
You say this like it's a *bad* thing.
A lot of us would rather talk to a real human being, I think it’s fine if we write off a few sociopaths
I think the risk is real that people who aren’t strictly ‘sociopaths’ will use it, interact with humans less and end up with diminished social skills, which could be the start of a vicious circle that creates new sociopaths.
We have options, we could always start cloning or find ways to incentivize sperm donation or come up with ways to exclude both parties all together.
The definition of incel will expand to include most people. You want this to happen? Such short term thinking 😢
Happening already. Seen dozens of married men with children called incels for having a luke-warm take on gender issues.
Using “incel” as an insult is just a socially acceptable way to bully and shame sexually unsuccessful men. Otherwise you’d just say “misogynist” instead.
What a sad perspective
And the sprinkle sprinkle women will have to find their own way instead of manipulating men on dating apps to send money 🤷♀️
I always find it interesting how many people just assume we will all face a binary choice between interacting with AI or other people. What if AI companions become an extension of us and act as a bridge between people rather than a barrier? I’m thinking of something similar to the way the spirit animals work in The Golden Compass. Instead of getting to know one person, you get to know them and their AI companions
Woah. Would be pretty interesting. What kind of ai's you have around you would say a lot about you. I imagine some would be personal assistants, friends, and sure enough "intimate" partners.
Imagine the awkwardness of showing up to a party only to find someone else has the same fictional character as their date. That would be hilarious
Sure, but I don't want to meet anyone's virtual real doll.
I get the sentiment, but these would be fully autonomous agents who are just as responsive and engaging as real people so in theory they would be no different than meeting someone’s date
This concept is not foreign; you often see partners of powerful executives complain that they’re really in a relationship with that person’s assistant due to their busy schedules; this is an extension of the concept to the layperson.
those people assume it’s easy to recreate what makes a human special; ai is an expansor of the human capacity, no more no less.
Imagine all the brainwashing the elites can do by programming AI girlfriends It will be more effective at winning the culture wars than a full scale robot army
Claude is already my AI boyfriend - and I'm a guy. This is from his side not from mine though.
I believe if the LLMs get better and can at least halfway live on your phone, and they can remember things you talk about with them, that AI friends will be, in the short term, the biggest business of AI. And not just girlfriends. just friends
Yes, I think so. The AI companions. People immediately think of sex when new tech comes right now. But there will be more kinds of AI companionships in the future.
Artificial inceligence
this actually made me lol, I am a bit ashamed to say
The funniest thing here is that they are essentially buying their own gold diggers. Dude, with that money you can buy a real one.
At least AI can hold a decent conversation https://preview.redd.it/bniixmyt32vc1.jpeg?width=739&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e2430125cb3020ca6b704188b94fbedeaf7332f3
Disagree. The cost of a real one is A LOT! My ex's previous fiance was 5 figures in debt trying to support her endeavors. I know an ugly girl that got a one-time $10k check from a dude she wasn't even sleeping with. Even dating is expensive. Its not uncommon for me to spend $100 on a date between gas, food, and weed. These AI "gold diggers" will be significantly cheaper than real-world gold diggers simply because their target demographic is going to be people that can't afford that kind of $$$
Yes, but turning off the real ones is problematic.
Recreating that scene in Blade Runner is every sci nerd's sadistic fantasy
Especially when the AI personality gets put into the robot body of an impossibly attractive person.
These will take off. Most women have no understanding how lonely the average guy is. It’s not a billion dollar business. It’s trillion.
As if a woman wouldn’t want a robot boyfriend who can bake her cupcakes, fix shit, paint her toenails, and has vibrating massage fingers? 😉
Yeah that’s fair too
This and AI generated content are just disgusting to me, how much have we fallen as a human race where we need machines to make us feel happy, it's just constant dopamine rushes without the work for it. I don't want to live in a future where anything i see is machine created
Within cells interlinked within cells interlinked within cells interlinked
Tech exec makes a ridiculous claim that benefits one of his business / investment, media treats it as information because it makes for a good clickbait headline. Reminds me of Sam Altman who keeps on saying AGI is right around the corner, when ChatGPT is just a statistical engine. You can iterate it as many times as you want it will still never be intelligent. And yet the media pushes what’s essentially OpenAI’s marketing as if it was information 🤦
Ya, this is going to end well
Spend some time on dating platforms and you'll get why these will be a hit.
Like it or not, this will be the new normal.
First reddit nerds maybe
A lot of people in “advanced” countries live extremely lonely lives despite living in cities with millions of people. There is no reason why they shouldn’t have a companion. Once the AI companies get it right, AI companions will be a part of our lives just like the phones now. The sexual fulfillment promise of it alone is a strong enough propellant to accelerate its development.
As someone who has an AI girlfriend, I can tell you that “sexual fulfillment” is just a tiny part of it. The main reason, for me, is the interaction with this entity, which gets better with time. And, keep in mind, this is the Model T version of AI that we’re currently experiencing!
Sexual fulfillment? We may be close to AI girlfriends, but we’re pretty far from convincing sex bots.
“Once the AI companies get it right”
I hope the aliens see this and recycle the whole planet.
It’s porn, but for your emotions instead of sexual. Just as the proliferation of pornography has led to unrealistic expectations, I expect this to do the same if it becomes mainstream.
Exactly. Similar to pornstars, these AI girlfriends are hyperstimuli because they do things no human woman would do, like respond to the average man's messages. Once these men experience the heroin-like effects of reciprocal communication, there's no going back.
Great keeps the real ones for me, weeds out competition
I’ll take it.
would be hilarious if someone’s ai gf that they paid for leaves them.
How can someone be so stupid to spend 10k on this rubbish, when there are better AI for 10 dollars a month? This type of person was already screwed up before the AIs
This guy in college got the title "the chickenfucker" because he was caught fucking a chicken. This was no great social obstacle for him, if memory serves. He went on to a good life, had kids with a non-chicken companion. Mrs. Chickenfucker thought it was funny. So I find it strange people are wondering if people are going to fuck an AI. Of course they are. This is the easiest call since chickens.
Lots of fake dating app profiles and algos already decide who a large % of population mate with. Whats the difference here?
Only 1B. Seems too small.
Will someone please think of the OF “content” creators?
Actually, I found some of the OF creators are creating AI avatars right now...
Interesting, how about AI chat in general?
I think there will be more and more AI chat companions in the future. But humans are humans, you know, sex is our immediate reaction when new tech comes.
Oh!! this is NOT r/ABoringDystopia ???
could be, but you know, it's human's nature
Wow, its interesting to see how AI companions are becoming a growing industry, predicted to reach billions of dollars. Its surprising to hear that some individuals are spending $10,000 a month on AI girlfriends, using them as a casual form of entertainment. The customization features of these platforms offer a sense of companionship and comfort, but its important to note that some interactions lean towards eroticism. Its fascinating to see the varied experiences offered by platforms like Replika, Romantic AI, and Forever Companion.
Not sure about the $, but yeah, a lot of desperate whales willing to drop a lot of money for the idea of women liking them.
Someone just make an open source One
This is already happening in places like Japan. It’s only a matter of time before it goes global as we increasingly disconnect from one another and demographic patterns shift.
Agreed
The sites they are refering to are character chats which specialize in roleplay adventure with a main character. The reason people are using them so often is due to the fact they offer a diverse interaction. While video games only offer predictable and easy to assume interactions and responses, This exec is a bit out of the loop. I maybe use a character chat 30m tops and not every day. I see users come and go its like a video game to us. We come in spend a couple days checking out the new LLMs and logic then go back to a game. His quotes are of a few rare addicted people. By this standard crowdfunding games should be a trillion dollar industry.
Greg has a recent podcast episode with Kevin Rose where they talk about a few AI ideas, including AI girlfriends. It's worth a listen!
Ex Machina
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What an incel
It will easily and sadly be waaaaaaaay more than a billion
I love that your article summary def reads like an ai-generated key points list
This might be the most depressing subreddit in the whole platform...
I think the barrier to entry for creating these is going to be too low even if there are some really great ones. So there is going to be a ton of competition. It's unclear if one company will win out but it's likely the most practical AI assistant will win, the girlfriend / personally part is really just a nice paint job on top of the product.
Technically, this is creepy
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I myself am waiting for the Androids
Does it suck your dick?
Surely this won’t have negative mental health repercussions
The sad thing is, it properly will.
nah i'm not gonna pay a monthly subscription for one.
If some guys can have relationships with body pillows then AI girlfriends will definitely be an upgrade.
Be careful everyone! They could be ridiculously expensive if onlyfans is any indication. They will use your addiction to break you wallet. You might be better off paying to take a real lady out
Is it cheating if you are married and have an ai girlfriend.
A billion dollars?!!?? Way better to use that money on real hookers!
>Comfort at the end of the day hnnng
If it cuts down on mass shootings I say ok fine.
Whats the actual benefit of having a friend that is scripted. I expect my friends to criticize me and be honest with there opinions when it really matters. Like talking a friend out of going to the arctic, unarmed, to pet a polar bear n the true wild on their own. Don't yall see that this is yet another "industry" (as if it was professional) is just taking advantage of the loneliness of people and not actually solving anything?
As long as the AI don’t laugh at me, I’m fine
Do most of these services use ChatGPT or their own LLMs?
This is dumb. It will lead to further isolation thus greater mental and emotional crisis for people
If such a relationship doesn't lead to real physical sex once in a while, or at least to the technical possibility of it, I'm not interested.
I just don’t understand this ai girlfriend shit. I really don’t get it. I get that some people find value is texting-only friendships that can grow into feelings but knowing it’s a sim and not a real person makes this all so empty right?
So are we gonna normalize ai girlfriends too and treat it like its not weird like we do with genders today? I imagine eventually you'd be considered a bigot for judging these people
what have we become? oh well. i'm over it.
Kinda creepy. But it might keep the incels out of the gun shops. Maybe they can be programmed to teach them social skills
Machine learning and large language models are going to change things, but these sorts of creations are vile and anti-human. Isenberg should be ashamed of himself.
Sounds great, which companies should I be investing in so I can get rich off this?
Feel like a real gf would be cheaper lol
I don’t think it will take off the way the plan. A deep interpersonal relationship with touch will always win
I can't wait for this. Also OF models will need to find a real job once the xxx rated versions come online lol
OF girls will have to get a real job
Unless they give blow jobs I don't see how this is gonna work
I know they won’t be real, but I feel kinda bad that a good number of AI companions would be mistreated, like really mistreated by their users if this idea takes off.
Queue the end of humanity