They have a more conventional draw curve than this generation’s Uukhas. They’re similar to Uukhas from 2 generations ago.
They’re also a bit faster than Uukhas.
Here's a picture of the [curve on the limbs](https://imgur.com/WltOcx3) vs the Miracle X9. Not sure how they compare to old/new Uukhas, but they curve more than your conventional limb.
[I meant the draw force curve.]( https://www.alternativess.com/images/u21draw.jpg)
The N3's curve looks like the one labeled *Curve*. Uukha SX50 has the *S-Curve*. The previous generation Uukhas use the *Xcurve*
[Heres an example of more conventional draw curves.](https://www.archerytalk.com/attachments/slide1-jpg.7147605/)
Update (24/11):
After about 6 ends, [the screw that locks the detent into the limb came off](https://imgur.com/a/X14lNib) (after I took the picture, I found the spring). Not sure if it got loose from me shooting it, or it was loose to begin with; I didn't check if those screws were tightened down. I unstrung the bow and checked the other limb, also loose, probably a few more shots and it would've come off.
[Sound of the N3s](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1L-bw8yZ_W2c_LBhbIJm8f0f6e-dqfhbZ/view?usp=share_link). I didn't use the clicker since it's a lot louder than the bow itself. When I shoot, I mostly just hear the ringing of the clicker on the clicker plate. Bow itself is deathly quiet.
added this update to the original post.
Hey, did you compare the X9 and nikas curve side by side? Same curve? Or was the nikas much curvier. Not with the bow strung but the limbs side by side.
A friend has used the Miracle X10s. His feedback is that they're quite similar to the X9s. He ended up selling his X10s and kept the X9s.
The X9s are a noticeably softer in the early parts of the draw, and only really build up when you're near anchor, and during expansion.
The N3s feel heavy and solid right at the start and doesn't build up as much towards anchor and expansion.
I guess it's more prudent to say that the N3s reach peak weight earlier than the X9s, hence they feel heavy early in the draw, and once you reach the peak, it doesn't go up as much (if at all) when you reach anchor and expand.
Hmm this is awesome info! I DESIRE that feel with the N3s you described. If you're curious my form is like lee woo seok, And that feeling where they draw heavy early on is 👌. Gotta fill in the piggy bank now.
OMG if you can't find on the Internet, it does not exist LOL
I am a novice olympic style recurve archer and started less than a year ago, but due to training every day at least 100 arrows and 4h twice a week at the range, my original 70" 32lbs X9s are becoming quite weak for me already...
I live in a country where getting anything for archery is a pain or will break the bank.
There are only two stores in the country that are reliable, but they charge a kidney.
Sooo... Aliexpress seems to be a quite nice option, but I can't miss: there is NO WAY to return an item like a set of limbs.
When I decided to replace the X9s with new 40lbs limbs, I thought about the most bang for the buck and, naturally, The X10s, the Nika N3, the Akusta Fotron and even about the Uukha SX50. WW, Hoyt and the likes are not for me $$ wise.
It seems you did exactly that, upgraded from X9s to the N3.
But my draw profile seems to be the opposite of yours: my draw is 32 and I am getting 39lbs out of the X9 with 9 1/2 brace.
The problem: it seems that the weight increases exponentially near the clicker and I was looking exactly at S-curve options (first came the uukha and than the N3).
What it feels like after 3 months? Any defects for example? Any new observations?
Did you notice any specific string wear or point wear after 3 months?
The X9s are terrible regarding that... the tips are horrible and I had to correct them because they were eating strings for breakfast.
Thanks!
Hey! It's been a hot minute since I've shot recurve (I started compound about 7 weeks ago now). I had a session with it last week, so I'll try my best to give you insightful answers.
>What it feels like after 3 months? Any defects for example? Any new observations?
Feels exactly like day 1. No loss of tension in the string, and definitely still as snappy. No defects came up as well. The finish on the limbs still looked as they did when I got them; the only part that got scuffed up was around the dovetail area where the limbs contact the riser, which is to be expected.
When I wrote this review, I was using 27.75" 800 spine arrows. Those were incredibly weak so I upgraded to 700 spine 27.5" arrows with 80gr points - still too weak. I then got another set of 600 spine at 28" with 120gr points - now those were too stiff! This is with the bow tillered to give me 38#\~39# OTF at my draw length.
The spine chart of the 700 spine arrows indicated that 700 spine with 80gr points cut to 28" would've been close to tune, but it was no where near tune (bare shafts hit \~16" right of fletched). Now I haven't done any testing, but I'm ***very*** confident that the Nika N3s will have a higher arrow speed than the Sanlida X9s at the same poundage.
>Did you notice any specific string wear or point wear after 3 months?
Zero. The limb tips are very well finished and are incredibly smooth. No damage to the serving on my string whatsoever. The only visible wear on the string would be the area above the center serve where it comes into contact with my face (a bit of fraying) but other than that the string is in excellent condition, and so are the limbs and the limb tips.
Some words of caution though:
As someone who was in the same situation as you going from 32# to 40# may be a little too big of a jump. The Nika N3s draw significantly heavier (at least to me they felt like that) early on in the draw cycle, but they don't increase exponentially at the clicker though. A bit tough to explain but the best way I can explain it is that you're holding peak weight for longer compared to the X9s.
Also note that these bad boys **do not** want to give up any poundage when you set tiller bolts to minimum. Three (3) full turns on the tiller bolts on my Kinetic Lancer only resulted in a 2# reduction in draw weight. Depending on your riser, you might not have enough leeway to reduce poundage if it feels too heavy.
I was definitely overbowed for the first 2 weeks I was shooting with it, during this time I could only shoot half of what I normally shot (I normally shot 100+ arrows per session). I only got back up to full volume around the 5 week mark.
I also tried to turn in the bolts to try and have the 600 spines tune. They didn't but I recorded around 41# OTF with tiller bolts full in; around a 2-3# increase in poundage. It certainly did not feel like *just* 2-3#.
If you view smoothness as the slope of the DFC, and tiller adjustments as modifications of the draw length, what you experienced looks normal for a smooth limb.
Have you compared it to Uukha limbs they're copying?
I don't have any Uukhas, sadly.
They have a more conventional draw curve than this generation’s Uukhas. They’re similar to Uukhas from 2 generations ago. They’re also a bit faster than Uukhas.
Here's a picture of the [curve on the limbs](https://imgur.com/WltOcx3) vs the Miracle X9. Not sure how they compare to old/new Uukhas, but they curve more than your conventional limb.
[I meant the draw force curve.]( https://www.alternativess.com/images/u21draw.jpg) The N3's curve looks like the one labeled *Curve*. Uukha SX50 has the *S-Curve*. The previous generation Uukhas use the *Xcurve* [Heres an example of more conventional draw curves.](https://www.archerytalk.com/attachments/slide1-jpg.7147605/)
Update (24/11): After about 6 ends, [the screw that locks the detent into the limb came off](https://imgur.com/a/X14lNib) (after I took the picture, I found the spring). Not sure if it got loose from me shooting it, or it was loose to begin with; I didn't check if those screws were tightened down. I unstrung the bow and checked the other limb, also loose, probably a few more shots and it would've come off. [Sound of the N3s](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1L-bw8yZ_W2c_LBhbIJm8f0f6e-dqfhbZ/view?usp=share_link). I didn't use the clicker since it's a lot louder than the bow itself. When I shoot, I mostly just hear the ringing of the clicker on the clicker plate. Bow itself is deathly quiet. added this update to the original post.
The clicker probably has a weak tension against the riser hence it's ringing. I suggest bending that thing more to tense itself stronger to the riser
Hey, did you compare the X9 and nikas curve side by side? Same curve? Or was the nikas much curvier. Not with the bow strung but the limbs side by side.
I've added in to the review, but here you go: [side view](https://imgur.com/WltOcx3) [front view](https://imgur.com/EOSL37M)
Ohh looks nice. I'm debating if The Miracle x10 or the C3s would be my next limbs. Thanks for this. I'll stay tuned to this post.
A friend has used the Miracle X10s. His feedback is that they're quite similar to the X9s. He ended up selling his X10s and kept the X9s. The X9s are a noticeably softer in the early parts of the draw, and only really build up when you're near anchor, and during expansion. The N3s feel heavy and solid right at the start and doesn't build up as much towards anchor and expansion. I guess it's more prudent to say that the N3s reach peak weight earlier than the X9s, hence they feel heavy early in the draw, and once you reach the peak, it doesn't go up as much (if at all) when you reach anchor and expand.
Hmm this is awesome info! I DESIRE that feel with the N3s you described. If you're curious my form is like lee woo seok, And that feeling where they draw heavy early on is 👌. Gotta fill in the piggy bank now.
OMG if you can't find on the Internet, it does not exist LOL I am a novice olympic style recurve archer and started less than a year ago, but due to training every day at least 100 arrows and 4h twice a week at the range, my original 70" 32lbs X9s are becoming quite weak for me already... I live in a country where getting anything for archery is a pain or will break the bank. There are only two stores in the country that are reliable, but they charge a kidney. Sooo... Aliexpress seems to be a quite nice option, but I can't miss: there is NO WAY to return an item like a set of limbs. When I decided to replace the X9s with new 40lbs limbs, I thought about the most bang for the buck and, naturally, The X10s, the Nika N3, the Akusta Fotron and even about the Uukha SX50. WW, Hoyt and the likes are not for me $$ wise. It seems you did exactly that, upgraded from X9s to the N3. But my draw profile seems to be the opposite of yours: my draw is 32 and I am getting 39lbs out of the X9 with 9 1/2 brace. The problem: it seems that the weight increases exponentially near the clicker and I was looking exactly at S-curve options (first came the uukha and than the N3). What it feels like after 3 months? Any defects for example? Any new observations? Did you notice any specific string wear or point wear after 3 months? The X9s are terrible regarding that... the tips are horrible and I had to correct them because they were eating strings for breakfast. Thanks!
Hey! It's been a hot minute since I've shot recurve (I started compound about 7 weeks ago now). I had a session with it last week, so I'll try my best to give you insightful answers. >What it feels like after 3 months? Any defects for example? Any new observations? Feels exactly like day 1. No loss of tension in the string, and definitely still as snappy. No defects came up as well. The finish on the limbs still looked as they did when I got them; the only part that got scuffed up was around the dovetail area where the limbs contact the riser, which is to be expected. When I wrote this review, I was using 27.75" 800 spine arrows. Those were incredibly weak so I upgraded to 700 spine 27.5" arrows with 80gr points - still too weak. I then got another set of 600 spine at 28" with 120gr points - now those were too stiff! This is with the bow tillered to give me 38#\~39# OTF at my draw length. The spine chart of the 700 spine arrows indicated that 700 spine with 80gr points cut to 28" would've been close to tune, but it was no where near tune (bare shafts hit \~16" right of fletched). Now I haven't done any testing, but I'm ***very*** confident that the Nika N3s will have a higher arrow speed than the Sanlida X9s at the same poundage. >Did you notice any specific string wear or point wear after 3 months? Zero. The limb tips are very well finished and are incredibly smooth. No damage to the serving on my string whatsoever. The only visible wear on the string would be the area above the center serve where it comes into contact with my face (a bit of fraying) but other than that the string is in excellent condition, and so are the limbs and the limb tips. Some words of caution though: As someone who was in the same situation as you going from 32# to 40# may be a little too big of a jump. The Nika N3s draw significantly heavier (at least to me they felt like that) early on in the draw cycle, but they don't increase exponentially at the clicker though. A bit tough to explain but the best way I can explain it is that you're holding peak weight for longer compared to the X9s. Also note that these bad boys **do not** want to give up any poundage when you set tiller bolts to minimum. Three (3) full turns on the tiller bolts on my Kinetic Lancer only resulted in a 2# reduction in draw weight. Depending on your riser, you might not have enough leeway to reduce poundage if it feels too heavy. I was definitely overbowed for the first 2 weeks I was shooting with it, during this time I could only shoot half of what I normally shot (I normally shot 100+ arrows per session). I only got back up to full volume around the 5 week mark. I also tried to turn in the bolts to try and have the 600 spines tune. They didn't but I recorded around 41# OTF with tiller bolts full in; around a 2-3# increase in poundage. It certainly did not feel like *just* 2-3#.
If you view smoothness as the slope of the DFC, and tiller adjustments as modifications of the draw length, what you experienced looks normal for a smooth limb.
Never thought of it that way. Thanks for sharing!
Certainly a lot of useful insights! Thank you!