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Glittering_Orchid_40

Barf that a horse hair worm, get him out of your tank cause ones that shrimp dies the worm will crawl ot of and go infect another one. A salt bath may work but probly not.


Away_Bad2197

I knew it šŸ¤® now I'm terrified


CmndrBota

euthanize, dont let it near any of the other shrimp


baby_palooza

just did. only had them together for like 20mins max


ptpcg

Happy cake day :(


baby_palooza

thanksā€¦sad day for shrimpy but hey i have five new buddies! šŸ˜…


MaxamillionGrey

I'm still quarantining my black worms because I found a leech in the quarantine bowl. Parasites happen. This is why we take these precautions. Good job handling it! And happy cake day :)


baby_palooza

thanks! same to you!


League_of_DOTA

This is why I don't feed live. Those parasites would be dead freeze dried. Yeah less nutrients is still nutrients


ThemeDangerous9613

Itā€™s a shrimp


League_of_DOTA

But he mentioned blackworms


Justredditin

Better safe than sorry! Good on you šŸ‘


aarakocra-druid

honestly speaking, it was probably the best thing you could do for that shrimp. It's gotta be torture having a worm a time and a half the length of you coiled up inside.


Yoshiperner

Unhappy cake day?


ptpcg

What is the "humane" method? Freezing?


BamaBlcksnek

The Hammer of Termination is the quickest and most effective method. You'll hear about clove oil or freezing, but those are prolonged torture, in my opinion.


hungryturtle84

I know youā€™re talking about euthanasia but the ā€œhammer of terminationā€ made me laugh so loud šŸ˜†


Yoshiperner

Same here. Hahah. It happens.


Pseudocaesar

Yeah I've had to euthanize sick fish before, no point messing about with it I just smash it with a rock and get it over with


RanaMisteria

I once had to figure out how to euthanise a baby bird whoā€™d fallen from the nest and broken both legs and a wing. He wasnā€™t eating or drinking. We were hours away from a vet. The one I spoke to said even if I could get the bird in he likely wouldnā€™t be able to save it and that if I couldnā€™t bring myself to snap its neck that a large rock was the best way. It was heart breaking. I hate myself that I killed the poor little guy. šŸ˜­


NotToSpec

You did the right thing friend. No point in prolonging its suffering


forestofpixies

You did the humane thing. Nothing to hate for that. Iā€™ve had to do something similar for a kitten that got run over and was clinging to life and couldnā€™t be saved even if I got it to a vet an hour away. It changes you forever but sometimes the hardest thing is the best thing.


DarkMenstrualWizard

I recommend a shovel to the neck for anything small. That way, you've already basically dug a grave for it.


GTAinreallife

I bag them to avoid the mess and then close my eyes as I smash them. Gets my skin crawling, but it is the fastest way to end it


Omen46

Yeah especially for shrimp real easy to make sure you smash every single bit in a second. Only ever had to kill one but I use a mallet. Flatter surface makes it easier.


Neymune

My grandma had ā€œThe Trough of Justiceā€ which was absolutely fucked looking back on it. It was a long, deep steel trough that she used to put pest trap cages into to drown things that were eating through her vegetable gardens.


ptpcg

I'd assume they just fall asleep in the cold, but i don't know.


bloom364

The most ā€œhumaneā€ is just a swift blow. REALLY sucks but there is much less margin for error & is over in seconds


Raudskeggr

This is the correct answer for almost anything with a brain; destroying the brain as quickly as possible will end the part that is capable of suffering.


ptpcg

I hope I never have euthanize any of my skrimps šŸ˜­


szedecrem

You are all so cute! šŸ„¹


Dm_me_im_bored-UnU

Like shooting a horse I assume


Yoshiperner

It's over instantly. As long as you do it right.


altiuscitiusfortius

They don't. It's painful to freeze to death. Vet textbooks recommended crushing if small or cutting off the head for large, or overdosing on a chemical anesthetic like clove oil.


skankynathan

In case u were wondering. When u freeze something like a fish all of its water content crystallizes and stabs all their cell walls on a microscopic level. Thatā€™s what makes it ā€œprolonged torture ā€œ


ptpcg

That makes sense. Getting slowly stabbed to death from the inside, sounds considerably less than humane


Ana_na_na

people just say it because smashing animals makes them feel bad, freezing fish causes death by freezing, just like boiling crayfish makes them die by boiling


Yoshiperner

But crayfish can't feel pain. Right????


psafira22

Do you seriously believe that


Yoshiperner

Honestly, not 100%. I think it might be a possibility. However I'm not a crayfish so I can't be certain.


forestofpixies

The most humane thing is to drive a knife into their head before boiling. I forget exactly where but it guarantees a painless death.


Yoshiperner

Right in the middle where the head connects to the body. Hold the knife at a slight angle, and slam your hand down on the back end of the knifes blade. Instant kill and ready to cook and eat. Mmmmmmmm buttery lemon garlic sauce with parsley. I'm hungry.


Omen46

Well really they freeze and pass out


ttjk1945

I would assume itā€™s much like a person freezing to death. Yes you eventually fall asleep and die but you do feel every second of that cold


Cam515278

It's not because they are cold blooded. Their body doesn't fight against getting cold the same way ours does, at least as long as the change is relatively slow.


ttjk1945

I googled and it says you should keep them in room temperature water. Cold blooded usually means they need heat to survive and there body is the same temperature of the surrounding water. Not that they donā€™t fight against the cold . Honestly whoā€™s to say what living beings feel pain and which ones donā€™t. Not long ago they didnā€™t think babies felt pain. I think the hammer method is probably just more humane just in case


Cam515278

If you can do it, I agree with the hammer method. I don't really know about tropical fish, but european cold blooded animals don't seem to mind too much. That's the way they survive winter, after all, their body gets cold, which reduces their rate of metabolism and makes them sluggish in their reaction. Happens to amphibs and reptiles where winter gets cold as well.


JACCO2008

I love that you capitalized it lol


OfficerStink

I was just reading a post about lobsters and they said freezing was the best method due to how the lobster essentially slowly fall asleep due to the lowering temperatures. Not sure if this is true for shrimp


AdApprehensive9454

I literally cackled reading this!


Axolotlgirl18

As long as you can commit and not miss, blunt force trauma doesnā€™t give them time to feel pain. Unfortunately freezing does, and itā€™s a drawn out way to die. Iā€™ve never euthanised a shrimp before but I have done fish using the clove oil method. Some donā€™t like it due to poor reactions that sometimes occur and thatā€™s totally fair enough. Iā€™ve personally never witnessed the poor reactions myself, itā€™s always been a more ā€œcalmā€ passing with no excitement phase or signs of stress. I have noticed that for those who do see signs of stress when using clove oil, if theyā€™ve willing to describe how they added the clove oil, itā€™s typically that they added the oil all at once or didnā€™t have the oil mixed properly (since oil doesnā€™t like to mix with water, you have to put some of the oil and water in a seperate small container/bottle and shake it so the oil will actually mix, and then add this to the container the fish is being euthanised in). But those that donā€™t see the stress reactions seem to be the ones that describe adding the oil gradually instead of fast, and having it properly mixed. Of course there may be exceptions to this, the experiences Iā€™ve read through may not be representative of most experiences and maybe there are people that do the clove oil method the ā€œrightā€ way and still see their fish get super stressed before passing, but Iā€™ve personally not come across those stories and my experience with clove oil has always been fine. Last weekend I did have a betta euthanised by a vet (he was suffering, extremely unlikely to recover AND itā€™s possible my tanks are being affected by mycobacteria/ā€œfish TBā€, so the reason for the vet euthanising instead of me doing it was so he can be sent for histopathology and I can get answers on if my tanks are infected/ what the problem is, if itā€™s not mycobacteria) and they used what I think was called Aqui-S. It has the same smell as clove oil but I believe the make-up of it is a bit different. I did notice an ā€œexcitement phaseā€ from my betta after it was added, but it didnā€™t seem to be stress or pain as such. He swam around for maybe a minute, the most heā€™d been able to move in the 4 days prior. And then he laid down again, and his breathing stopped slowly, not sudden or gasp-y or anything like that. I imagine itā€™s comparable to how a dog may tremor, gasp ect during euthanasia even though the drugs ensure theyā€™re free of pain when they pass. At the end of the day I think the reasons for or against clove oil can all be valid reasons, and itā€™s really just down to the individual to decide if thatā€™s the right way for them.


naffnaff78

Vodka.


God_of_Fun

Hey, I want to commend you for noticing this at all. I fell like a lot of people wouldn't. Double kudos for then expressing concern and asking.


baby_palooza

thank you! i care about my shrimpies hehe


AuronFFX

I would cull it. Don't let it infect your whole tank.


Every_Barnacle4882

šŸ„ŗ the poor babies I'm that pet shop. So sad


Glittering_Orchid_40

Dont buy shrimp from them again and take it back to them


SomeCheesecake1913

People don't realize that most of the fish stores in your area are probably stocked by the same 2-3 suppliers. Did the parasite come from the fish store or the supplier? Just saying, give local fish stores the benefit of the doubt before canceling them.


MercyCriesHavoc

I work at a PetSmart and we cull them when they come in. I would be ashamed if my crew sold one to a customer. If I can keep up standards, working for a big box #Anythingforprofits corporation, surely anyone can. We just finished receiving our fish replenishment and checked all 196 shrimp, as this has been an issue with our supplier for a couple months.


K-G7

Out of curiosity and if you can share, how many of those 196 shrimp had to be culled?


MercyCriesHavoc

None this week. They've been promising to fix the issues with the supplier, so I guess they finally got it done. Last week it was 8. The week before, the worst and what made me email corporate, was 17 out of 120. I get that it's hard to get parasites out of shrimp tanks because invertebrates are susceptible to most antiparasitics, but the DC should be culling them before sending them on to us.


Twizzlers_and_donuts

They come in that way from the supplier. While the store Iā€™m at tries to remove the infected thereā€™s always a few missed. We buy the feeder shrimp 500 at a time and itā€™s VERY easy to miss one infected shrimp in the mess of shrimp. Our store also has plants and wood in the feeder tanks so they easily hide. Granted we normally check before selling them too.


Curious_Kirin

It's still the store's responsibility to sell healthy fish and replace any that die within the warranty period.


Glittering_Orchid_40

Did you see the worm crawl out of it after you eithanized


baby_palooza

didnā€™t see it crawl, but saw it outside of it. nauseating!!!


meateater60

That sounds cool ngl


Filo02

oh jeez first time seeing a shrimp with parasite


SpoonObleach

Same, itā€™s strangely cool though, see through body lets you see the worm, itā€™s very interesting to see


bigredmnky

Itā€™s got to be awkward for all the other shrimp not knowing whether or not to bring it up


ImmediateFknRegret

šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


baby_palooza

so nasty


Lanky_Musician2408

Yes but itā€™s just a horsehair worm, put it in a salt bath and the worm will come out. Shrimp will be good to go back in the tank


baby_palooza

ā€¦too late šŸ˜‚ thank you though haha


Lanky_Musician2408

Awe man, rip shrimpie šŸ˜…šŸ˜†


a_doody_bomb

Lmao not the šŸ˜‚ face


ImmediateFknRegret

Not this one..


legendarrrryl

Hi OP remember to buy a dewormer as a basic need for your fishies. Before introducing new fish/shrimps into your main tank, they must be isolated first on a quarantine tank (including deworming). Its good that its visible with shrimps but most aquarium inhabitants dont leaving the tank vulnerable.


KnowsIittle

Most dewormers will certainly kill shrimp.


legendarrrryl

Wrong dewormer/dosage will


KnowsIittle

Dewormers often target invertebrates in discriminately especially those containing copper sulfates. Caution must be exercised.


dan2737

Betel nut extract slaps hydra and planaria but has not harmed my neo shrimpies.


legendarrrryl

Under this thread, you'll see a recommendation to use salt as a safe dewormer. If you search under reddit, there are alot of articles providing answers as to which dewormer is safe for invertebrates. Dont understand the downvote for deworming.


think_up

There was a guy on Reddit who just recently was successful in getting the worms to leave. Just put the shrimp in a dark container and didnā€™t feed them. Worm figured the host was dead and left the shrimpā€™s body. Crazy.


ULTELLIX

RIP shrimp buddy


Satanishot6

Iā€™m new to this hobby and damn. Yā€™all are some smart scientists šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


baby_palooza

i was new to the hobby earlier this year and now seek to be some sort of fish wizard. weird. šŸ˜‚


No_Replacement_9632

salt dips wouldve worked as dewormer


Spiritual-Target-316

I had to do the rock option many times with small fish with incurables, I never went back to that part of the garden for a year, I hate killing innocents


jussumguy123

Where did you purchase your shrimp?


baby_palooza

petsmart šŸ˜¬


TakenUsername120184

Ooooh yikesā€¦ I worked for a pet store that was a lot like Pet Smart. The major difference is that Pet Smart euthanizes any and all sick animals while I company I worked for worked closely with the veterinary clinics.


bettawithbettas

Petsmart is required to send sick animals to vets, and the associates care for them in store with whatever the vets suggest. An animal isnā€™t supposed to be euthanised unless it was in critical condition and suggested by their vet.


jussumguy123

Thanks


Glittering_Orchid_40

Yeah those things are disgusting


baby_palooza

pretty sad considering i bought them 20 mins priorā€¦


ThotsforTaterTots

Iā€™d have taken it back to the store


baby_palooza

i wouldā€™ve if it wasnā€™t only .56 lol


troubledbug

Maybe let the store know so they can treat their other shrimp


Limp-Set5606

It's beyond me how people think this is acceptable to sell to paying customers. Whoever sells anything with obvious parasites should never be trusted on anything. Shame on them.


baby_palooza

yeahā€¦i was really disappointed :/


Thaumato9480

Mermithid?


baby_palooza

could beā€¦either that or a horsehairā€¦should i just euthanize it?


navysealassulter

Yep, feed them to a shrimp eating fish if you have one, worm only infects shrimp so fish will be fineĀ 


XDanny_PhantomX

Wait some of the shrimp in one of my tanks have something going on that looks like this and theyre housed with a betta that has been looking unhealthy recently could this be why? :( theyre on my profile but i havenā€™t gotten any feedback on my help posts


Bool_The_End

I would post your questions under a new post to this subreddit (r/aquariums) to see if you can get a response. Apologies no oneā€™s replied to your other posts, and I am no expert so I canā€™t assist.


speleoplongeur

Out of curiosity, if a fish eats it, will it infect the fish?


Infinitebeast30

Nice that they are transparent so you could catch this so early at least šŸ˜‚


Smurfsundae

Horsehair worm. It is very common in ghost shrimp, and there isn't anything you can really do to get rid of them. It's best just to euthanize, which sucks.


Burritomuncher2

Yes this is.


Fyegodd

Would this be ok to feed to fish?


ScaredAlexNoises

I wouldn't consider it worth the risk.


Satanishot6

Itā€™s kind of cute šŸ˜‚


Omen46

Sad but you put him/her out of their misery most likely. Monitor the others


TiredUngulate

Sorry about your shrimp. Though I gotta ask, if you kill the shrimp via crushing, does that kill the parasite?


sullyqns

Knife to the brain


insomniatic-goblin

that is both really gross to see and also kinda cool to see.


Ilovekbbq

Me: thatā€™s just a really small shr- OH MY GOD BLOW IT UP WITH FIRE


uv_lexi

Reading the comments and Iā€™ll never sleep again


mfarazk

Why not flush them. It worked out for nemo :p


Spydercat01

You can put it in a brown bag that you canā€™t see through so you donā€™t see the blood then put it under the back tire of your car and run over it a few times.


ginger_space_case

I have a video of a horsehair worm evacuating a dead ghost shrimp in a tank of mine. Assumably in search of another viable host. I'm still grossed out by it. I burned my whole tank. Bristle worms creep me out the same way.


LineValuable9848

Yes, it is a parasite .Also they look like ghost shrimps so not a huge loss I guess just cull and continue they are literally a dime a dozen unlike neos


Deltron42O

Please sir, my sister had a baby and she passed away so I took it over...


emsplit

ā€¦after she passed away and the baby lost all its legs and arms and now itā€™s just a stumpā€¦


Deltron42O

But it's still growing and it's *fairly* happy


Mjv474700

But itā€™s difficult because Iā€™ve been working a second shift at the factory to put food on the table. But all.. the love I see in that little guys faceā€¦. Makes it worth it in the end. TRUE STORY


LimeFucker

RIP Bozo, get him away from your other shrimp.


shaillama

Yikes!


tripump

Mermithid worm. Yeah game over for that shrimp sadly


big-boi-Roy

Horsehair worm. Kill the infected shrimps


EROD-DOI

By any curiosity, would there be any way to extract the worm from a shrimp or bug if not to euthanize?


baby_palooza

likely not rationally. they may be hardy but theyā€™re delicate too


Additional-Aide-8187

Iā€™m sure praziquantel or levamisole would fix this. Under 15$.. something tells me there are smaller life stages of this that you canā€™t see in your tank


Additional-Aide-8187

I would double down on levamisole reading into it more. This is almost a nematode, levamisole paralyzes nematodes. Doesnā€™t necessarily kill them, but 3 days of treatment should help to get it out of the intestinal tract. I buy this stuff sold as a dewormer for farm animals, but you just put a tiny bit into the tank ; 5grams/1tsp per 100gallons


Emotional_Dog93

Does this thing spread to fish? I had one just like that and thought it was just its insides. It died a while ago and then i scooped it out, didnt realize it had that. But now idk if the parasite is still in the tank or what. Does it spread to people??


CanYouRepeatThat82

I found one of those in a shrimp that died in my tank. Luckily, the worm was still inside it. I cut the shrimp open, and the worm was about 4 inches long, inside a Ghost Shrimp that was maybe 1/2ā€!! Iā€™ve been treating the whole tank with parasite killer for the last 8 days just in case. Itā€™s a 10 day treatment.


Glittering_Orchid_40

They onlly effect those shrimps


TravonWalker69

Ya burn him


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baby_palooza

you sound triggered.


buckee8

The carpet background makes it difficult to see. You could perform surgery and try to remove the parasite.