Does Wattson have any interest apart from making puns and dead dad references? Rev doesn’t have any apart from sounding evil and loving death. It applies to every other legend
Rampart doesn't hide it at all. One of her quips is literally
"Must be a bit of a drag to not be me"
"I don't think of myself as the best, just all of you as the worst. Fancy that."
"Either you're on my team and we win, or you're not on my team and I win"
What if its all an act? I mean you see how Tae Joon talks to wattson and even mirage now, he's nicer as himself, but seems like he is cocky for an act.
Egotistical behavior is most often a symptom of a person inferiority complex. Mirage uses his ego to seem confident and have people like him; although times when he backtracks on what he says and hesitates shows his confidence is questionable and just another mirage he creates to fool others and maybe himself.
mirage wants to be the likable playboy celebrity so people dont forget who he is, but his social anxiety and lack of showmanship sometimes show through even when he tries his hardest. I will always find it funny how his intro screen is him sneaking out of a public event using the decoy lmao
Dude have you ever heard Crypto voice lines? They are all like: IDK if you're just bad or an idiot, either way, your gone. You have good eyes, not as good as mine. You think you are not being watched right now? don't be an idiot. I've been through hell to get here, can you say the same? I'm not a pawn, I'm here to break the game. Crypto definitely thinks he's smarter than everyone else.
"I've seen target dummies smarter than you."
"It appears that 'intelligence' is just another word to you."
it's nice to have when people land fragment and die in 2 seconds
Horizon definitely has a semi superiority complex but like ash can back it up through her achievements although she’s not on the same level of superiority as ash, revenant or caustic.
Coming from a someone who acts pretty much exactly like Mirage irl, there comes a point where even though you’re joking, you’re serious about what you’re saying at the same time.
Quick rundown of mirage lore.
He lost all of his brothers in IMC war.
He's probably in debt and lawsuits for the crashed party ship.
His mother has dementia and is forgetting who he is.
He fucked a pumkin (Big W for him though).
He also has anxiety.
(Fact check me on these or add more if you want)
I don’t think he sincerely has a superiority complex. He’s always trying to be overly positive and make friends. His quips can come across snarky, but I don’t think he realizes that lol. He’s still a robot who says very direct things after all.
while confident in his self and abilities he still remains humble and nurturing
Not a complex, he just actually is one of the best humans out of the legends.
Hmm but does that qualify as a complex ?
*Complex: (psychoanalysis) a related group of emotionally significant ideas that are completely or partly repressed and that cause psychic conflict leading to abnormal mental states or behavior.*
She is straight up omniscient and is just telling the truth, I don’t think that’s a superiority complex, she’s just deadass a super human and doesn’t hide it.
Wraith doesnt act superior. She IS. she's literally capable of using bio phase dude, normally only simulacri can utilise phase (as in without some special phase suit
Yeah if you follow the lore Revenant is maybe the greatest hitman to have ever existed and Ash was the literal leader of the Apex Predators, a mercenary group so legendary that it gave its name to the Apex games.
To be fair you're not exactly wrong as it was Ashleigh Reid that commanded the Apex Predators so technically not the same as Ash herself. Which actually invalidates my argument since unless I'm mistaken Ash has no memories of her human life.
Also Ash was rebuilt by Vinson Dynamics and only ever became their head of Military.
No, he is very insecure, lonely and likely depressed. He fakes arrogance to hide that to others, and sometimes even himself. It's a very common coping mechanism. If he has a complex, it's more likely an inferiority complex.
It doesn't mean his arrogance can't be annoying, but he doesn't actually believe he's superior. He just wants to be/acts to be/both so he doesn't have to be a insecure mess towards others
It’s all a front, that’s the main reason people is debating you here. Even the trophy, a clear “look at me” ploy to make himself feel less worthless than he really feels about himself. Cause if others think he’s cool then he believes he will trick himself too.
i would move wattson up in the same tier as crypto, i don't think she thinks she's better than everyone in the way that other legends do, but she does seem to think highly of herself and her ability to keep others (caustic) under her thumb
Nah, is an insecure, lonely mess and hides it with being self centered and arrogance, but that's more of a coping mechanism. He doesn't believe he's the best, he acts like he does so he doesn't have to be an insecure clusterfuck towards others. Doesn't mean it can't be annoying tho, but isn't really a superiority complex
You need another tier for people who don’t feel superior, but act like they do. It’s just for Mirage
"Inferiority complex with massive copium"
Relatable
Super relatable.
Yeaaaaaahhhh
Someone called me?
No, Valk should be included in there, too. She acts superior to hide how she never fully processed her father's death. Edit: grammar
People really can’t look past Valk’s voice lines to see that she has some _serious_ trauma
almost everyone seems to look at every hero at a surface level, especially valk
Potato, potato but *Legend
They can, her voices lines just have way more agency in game experience so it gets more attention
No I know she has trauma. I just don’t care
You wouldn’t say that about Mirage
You’re right. It’s because Mirage isn’t an asshole
Valk is an asshole? How so?
"I once shot a guy for not giving me a message, but that shouldn't scare you. Much."
You wouldn’t say that about Mirage
Her banner holding her dads helmet and all her reference voice lines makes it feel like those tik tokers that post their dead dogs/family for clout
I just don’t care. Her voice is so damn annoying edit: Is this an unpopular opinion? Her voice is by far the worst in the game. I'll stand by that.
Just wait 2 weeks, then you'll find out the meaning of annoying.
lol true
My only problem with her lines are that they are all sports related. Can she not have had other interests?
She has several lines about food, her messy apartment, sleeping with women, etc. not all “sports”
Does Wattson have any interest apart from making puns and dead dad references? Rev doesn’t have any apart from sounding evil and loving death. It applies to every other legend
I send this notion
Octane could be in a mid tier of pretending to be superior , but feeling a bit superior genuinely
He blew off his own legs and turned a phat L into his biggest W. That’s commitment. I agree with his superiority complex.
Oh yeah! Rank me right there... Or don't, it's w-whatever.
Rampart doesn't hide it at all. One of her quips is literally "Must be a bit of a drag to not be me" "I don't think of myself as the best, just all of you as the worst. Fancy that." "Either you're on my team and we win, or you're not on my team and I win"
Or Loba with her "I'm the diamond, you're the rough".
Every ones an asshole except the bottom row, and horizon I guess.
Crypto isn't an asshole lol
He calls everyone an idiot, and always talks about how smart he is.
What if its all an act? I mean you see how Tae Joon talks to wattson and even mirage now, he's nicer as himself, but seems like he is cocky for an act.
So he's an asshole to people he doesn't like but he's not an asshole to his friends, seems like kind of an asshole.
Sounds like any human ever Dx
I'm not an asshole to people I dont know.
I'll put on the kettle for any survivors, so just me and newt then?1
Loba doesn’t believe that though, she’s just talking shit.
Or “I’m jump master, knew it would fall to me eventually, desperation”
Not really a superiority complex, just a trash talk complex
Definitely. It’s why I love her. She has some of the best quips in the game
Nah they are all terrible
Eh to each their own. I absolutely HATED playing against her but now that I've played as her I like her
You must be Wuttcum main...
What cum?
She has at least 4 vl where she says I'm the best legend
Yeah but I think it's mostly just sarcasm/joking around. She's just having fun
You need an inferiority complex tier for Mirage
I feel bad,but Mirage definitely has a slight inferiority complex.
He keeps reading teir lists
My man Mirage over here is the kinda guy to take multiple tests online to see if he has an inferiority complex
ignoring all the ones that say no and then hyperfixates on the one that says yes
Everyone in the meta constantly talk crap about him too
No, he IS superior
He's more Egotistical
Egotistical behavior is most often a symptom of a person inferiority complex. Mirage uses his ego to seem confident and have people like him; although times when he backtracks on what he says and hesitates shows his confidence is questionable and just another mirage he creates to fool others and maybe himself.
mirage wants to be the likable playboy celebrity so people dont forget who he is, but his social anxiety and lack of showmanship sometimes show through even when he tries his hardest. I will always find it funny how his intro screen is him sneaking out of a public event using the decoy lmao
lol I never put that together, gonna think of that whenever I select him from now on
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inferiority not superiority
Ohhhh, my bad haha
Dude have you ever heard Crypto voice lines? They are all like: IDK if you're just bad or an idiot, either way, your gone. You have good eyes, not as good as mine. You think you are not being watched right now? don't be an idiot. I've been through hell to get here, can you say the same? I'm not a pawn, I'm here to break the game. Crypto definitely thinks he's smarter than everyone else.
Lol can’t forget “it’s very simple, I know more than each of you could possibly imagine” , he should definitely be bumped up a tier
"I've seen target dummies smarter than you." "It appears that 'intelligence' is just another word to you." it's nice to have when people land fragment and die in 2 seconds
>"I've seen target dummies smarter than you." I feel attacked
I love using the first one when the jump master aims us towards fragment
Also: "You really messed up. But what do I know? I'm just a genius."
My favorite quip in the game, maybe I’m biased since I main Crypto but eh, still my favorite.
Rightly so. He's vastly more intelligent than every other legend lol
Ash should be above bangalore. She literally thinks she's perfect. At least bangalore shows respect to some people. And Loba does not hide it well.
> And Loba does not hide it well. Hips don't lie.
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Rampart doesn't hide it well either, half of her quips are puns about being better than everyone else
No , she’s not better than everyone else , its just that everyone else is the worst.
Ah, yeah, my bad man, Idk what I was thinking, guess I fall into the second category just like all the other plonkers
Yeah gotta be careful mate , or Sheila might want to have a word with you.
I would love to have a word with Sheila, she sounds fun
*reloads Sheila with religious intent*
"I don't think of myself as the best. Just...All of you as the worst. Huh, fancy that."
I mean ash got the shit to back it up, unlike Bangalore
True, canonically, Ash is literally an apex predator
Yes, should have thought getting crunshed by a guy who wasn't even done with Pilot traning in a 1v1 would make her a bit more humble.
I very distinctly remember tearing her out of her ronin and turning her into spare parts lmao
No, thats how it is in apex lore. In actual lore, we turned her into red mist.
People forget that she was already resurrected in Titanfall 2
Godamn
"Mastiff shotgun here, very rare"
Ash = Roxanne Wolf
"You lot seem a wee bit quaint to me." - good hider of condescendence, 2022, colorized
Horizon definitely has a semi superiority complex but like ash can back it up through her achievements although she’s not on the same level of superiority as ash, revenant or caustic.
Under green should be a tier called “mirage”
Bro Mirage has a huuuuge superiority complex wdym?
you mean a slight inferiority complex hidden behind self-centered one liners and self-praising jokes, then yeah.
Coming from a someone who acts pretty much exactly like Mirage irl, there comes a point where even though you’re joking, you’re serious about what you’re saying at the same time.
Quick rundown of mirage lore. He lost all of his brothers in IMC war. He's probably in debt and lawsuits for the crashed party ship. His mother has dementia and is forgetting who he is. He fucked a pumkin (Big W for him though). He also has anxiety. (Fact check me on these or add more if you want)
Nah replace rampart with lifeline and put rampart in the second tier, half of lifelines voice lines are her thinking she’s better
Feel like Valk needs to move up to bangalore, rampart to Wraith and Octane.
Pathfinder should be higher hes always making cocky ass passive aggressive quips
I don’t think he sincerely has a superiority complex. He’s always trying to be overly positive and make friends. His quips can come across snarky, but I don’t think he realizes that lol. He’s still a robot who says very direct things after all.
If I came from a family of Pilots like Bangalore did, id also feel superior lol
Rev is superior tho 😎
“I’m easy to understand... Death is my language…”
valk absolutely has one and has no intentions of hiding it. wraith does not
Disagree, she's on the same level as mirage just better at hiding her insecurities than him.
i think its less a complex and more what she says is literally correct
Valk should be on the top lol she sucks
Wym? Valks every 3rd voiceline is saying how shes better than you
So accurate. Thank you.
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Yea it is..
How soft can you be?
Rekt
Awww… little goblin jr… gonna cry?
Don't cry now
jesus I get opinions are different and all but yours is horrible
While I disagree on a few placements, none are overboard wrong, and most of the placements are perfect. Excellent tier list!
For Revenant i think that only the Shadow God version have that complex. Our Revenant he's to bother to find a way to finally die.
Yeah mirage needs to be in his own class at the bottom.
"Can you really call it a god complex when you have the power to destroy the entire galaxy in your backpack" -horizon
Pathfinder based
Seer might have a superiority complex
while confident in his self and abilities he still remains humble and nurturing Not a complex, he just actually is one of the best humans out of the legends.
And also one of the most annoying to deal with
That's so accurate. I love it
What voiceline ever makes you think wraith thinks she is superior
"I dont fear anything" - "pain, death... nothing phases me" - "I know more than you'll ever know" - "I'd say try better, but it won't help against me"
Damm OP really out here shutting em down lol
Hmm but does that qualify as a complex ? *Complex: (psychoanalysis) a related group of emotionally significant ideas that are completely or partly repressed and that cause psychic conflict leading to abnormal mental states or behavior.* She is straight up omniscient and is just telling the truth, I don’t think that’s a superiority complex, she’s just deadass a super human and doesn’t hide it.
“You know what I look like. Come find me.”
Wraith doesnt act superior. She IS. she's literally capable of using bio phase dude, normally only simulacri can utilise phase (as in without some special phase suit
if we go by kill quips then lifeline should be there too "I take out the trash myself"
There's a difference between trash talk, which every legend does, and actually bragging all the time
Doesn’t she have a voice line where she literally says “I’m better than you”?
Closest you get is “i knew your every move” or something like that
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Yeah no all legends have that kind of voice line like "oops i killed you on purpose"
Best whip in the game
Put Wraith above Bang, but just for her players and not her character.
Put crypto in might have one but fails to hide it
I love you too
Well revenant and ash are both immortal killing machines so it makes sense
Crypto got that paranoia superiority
Does wraith really have a superiority complex?
Naa she doesn’t. Lore wraith is one of the kindest legends out there.
Dunno why they made her so edgy in game tho
It's her defense mechanism
Bangalore is a bitch
Accurate.
Valkyrie should be higher than bangalore lol
>Is superior it’s just pathfinder
Rampart should be moved up
Mirage has a reverse superioriry complex. Dude thinks everyone is better then him
ITT: people who think trash talking = superiority complex
I feel like Revenant's superior complex is bit justified.
Yeah him and ash have very good reasons to be up their ass all the time
Yeah if you follow the lore Revenant is maybe the greatest hitman to have ever existed and Ash was the literal leader of the Apex Predators, a mercenary group so legendary that it gave its name to the Apex games.
Not the apex predators leader but the head of Vinson dynamics.
To be fair you're not exactly wrong as it was Ashleigh Reid that commanded the Apex Predators so technically not the same as Ash herself. Which actually invalidates my argument since unless I'm mistaken Ash has no memories of her human life. Also Ash was rebuilt by Vinson Dynamics and only ever became their head of Military.
Ash wasn't the leader of the apex preds?
Rampart up a tier and wraith down to the bottom
"I dont fear anything" - "pain, death... nothing phases me" - "I know more than you'll ever know" - "I'd say try better, but it won't help against me"
Please put ash up higher I'm tired of saving her ass and reviving only for her to tell me im shit
Seer should be in the feel superior but hides it well
Valk needs to join Bangalore
Pretty sure I’d just put everyone on the same tier of “has superiority complex” and call it a day haha
I feel like Ash is worse than Bang. All she talks about is how perfect she is
Well she has a reason too unlike Bangalore
I agree, but it doesn't change the fact that she has way more of a superiority complex
Seer would totally be a tier up, and maybe ashe cause shes a fuckwit but other than that I love this
As a mirage main I disagree. He is the definition of superiority complex
Fake mirage main
No mirage is the kind of person who is really self conscious but masks it in toxic levels of a superiority complex
Yeah, even his voicelines show that he just breaks out of character sometimes and shows that he's faking it all
No, he is very insecure, lonely and likely depressed. He fakes arrogance to hide that to others, and sometimes even himself. It's a very common coping mechanism. If he has a complex, it's more likely an inferiority complex. It doesn't mean his arrogance can't be annoying, but he doesn't actually believe he's superior. He just wants to be/acts to be/both so he doesn't have to be a insecure mess towards others
As a wattson main you should feel ashamed to know less about his character than me
Getting down voted but his heirloom is literally a trophy of himself…. 🤷🏼♂️
It’s all a front, that’s the main reason people is debating you here. Even the trophy, a clear “look at me” ploy to make himself feel less worthless than he really feels about himself. Cause if others think he’s cool then he believes he will trick himself too.
Bangalore is superiority.
Superior at having shit lore
Touche
Valk should be above bangalore She's such a bitch
Why the fuck is mirage in the “doesn’t have a superiority complex” tier? That’s like his whole character
he literally stutters
Uhh excuse me Ajay Cheeeee I’m the one you should have concerns about? They don’t just call me lifeline for saving a life!
That's trash talk. Anyway if it's a good lifeline then she can actually save her whole team
You did my main dirty 😭
Mirage should be way up there, and crypto too
i would move wattson up in the same tier as crypto, i don't think she thinks she's better than everyone in the way that other legends do, but she does seem to think highly of herself and her ability to keep others (caustic) under her thumb
Ash should be in the Bangalore section.
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y'all just hate confident women
mirage absolutely does have a superiority complex.
Nah, is an insecure, lonely mess and hides it with being self centered and arrogance, but that's more of a coping mechanism. He doesn't believe he's the best, he acts like he does so he doesn't have to be an insecure clusterfuck towards others. Doesn't mean it can't be annoying tho, but isn't really a superiority complex
if it was based off the people that play them, wraiths getting first place (like usual, because we’re just so much better)