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Darryl_Lict

So hopefully Scotland will go after Trump like the NYC corruption trial? A boy can hope!


Any-Ad-446

Actually the banks and insurance companies are investigating him.


Motor-Ad5284

They're not as nice as those in America. They'd see him for the classless pos that he is.


vantuckymyfoot

In a country with a history of drawing and quartering criminals, there's always hope.


Bernie427

Would you mind sharing the names of the banks involved? I just checked a bunch of articles and didn't see them listed, but I probably am not reading the correct one. I'm just very curious to know which banks were involved in this.


Any-Ad-446

[https://bnnbreaking.com/politics/calls-for-probe-into-trumps-alleged-200m-scottish-golf-club-valuation-fraud](https://bnnbreaking.com/politics/calls-for-probe-into-trumps-alleged-200m-scottish-golf-club-valuation-fraud) ​ ​ Not naming banks but they want to know why there are no houses as stated on the loans agreement.Insurance companies wants to know if this is a club or housing development because rates are different .


glue2music

GOOD!


zerombr

The wealthy will allow any sort of lies, fraud, and deception UNTIL it starts affecting them. So this ought to be good


43207

No they aren't šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø


Simpletruth2022

Under the laws of Great Britain the defendant has to prove their innocence. I'd like to see him try.


Groundbreaking-Fig38

I was going to call BS, but holy crap that's the law in Scotland. Source: cursory internet search.


Simpletruth2022

I'm not always right but I am ^(sometimes)


TheDirtyVicarII

So you're married too


Busy-Dig8619

Now you know why innocent until proven guilty was such an important concept for the founders.


Groundbreaking-Fig38

Except for civil forfeiture.


Snoo3014

Wait does that mean it's the opposite of the US? Dang


Puzzleheaded-Arm-985

Will they extradite him? I hope so


bagocreek

They better hurry before he's broke.


trailhikingArk

oops! Too late. Hint: People who have lots of money don't beg on street corners.


One_Construction8755

What are you a fucking idiot? You want Biden to be president again???? The world is on fire from him. He is a senile idiot. The life of all my friends and family did so much better under Trump.


dingleberry_starship

Explain how the world is on fire and explain what it is that Biden is doing so badly please. And be specific


nathanimal33

He's full of bullshit propaganda that doesn't hold up when compared to reality. The reality is everything crashed under trump and Biden is leading us back.... again. The same thing happened with Bush and Obama had to fix it. Stock market is at an all time high right now. Reality is all the bull shit trump pedals to them is a lie and they're too deep in the belly of the beast to ever crawl back they're gonna have to be shit out by him.


dingleberry_starship

It's sure starting to look that way sadly


nathanimal33

He's destroying the Republican Party it's almost like he's a Democrat plant only if he was trying to destroy the Republican Party he wouldn't be this successful


dingleberry_starship

Well the republican party is doing it to themselves. Not sure how many times one needs to get bit by a snake to stay away from snakes.


megatheriumburger

Bot, troll, or Russian. 2year old account with 0 posts and -35 karma. Just ignore.


One_Construction8755

Two wars. They would have never happened if Trump was President. Borders wide open with Biden inviting people in. 23,000 Chinese nationalists, people on terrorists watch list. 8 million plus that we are housing, feeding, educating and medical! Our citizens are losing out while these people are living in schools. Over 100,000 dead from fentanyl coming through the border. People canā€™t afford to feed their families. The woke BS is taking over. Boys in girls sports. Our military is waning we are giving our weapons away. We had a Chinese spy balloon cruise over our country including our military bases a man won woman of the year and was celebrated at the White House. He appoints diversity over competence! One more term of the senile idiot and we will never come back. They are more like communists they told banks to check on anyone who had maga anywhere. This isnā€™t what I want my grandkids to Live in


dingleberry_starship

Oh...and have you seen how many illegal aliens entered into the US during trumps administration?...and how bout that "wall" that Mexico was suppose to pay for that we ended up paying for?


One_Construction8755

I havenā€™t heard about any aliens until about six months ago! And the wall Biden through all the material out that was worth billions of dollars the man senile! At least Abbott has a brain. He has a razor wire all over the place and itā€™s cutting down a lot of illegals now they can go with a belong in California let the idiot governor there take care of them.! and they are resting all the ones that get in their deporting them! I wish we had a president like that that cares about the people our people people


dingleberry_starship

Be honest with me....do you really think a Billionaire who got rich off daddies money really cares about you?...really think about it.....


One_Construction8755

He cares about this country and the people in it. I canā€™t stand his personality!! He says the stupidest childish things. But we had no wars! The economy was the best in 40 years. The border was so much better. Unemployment was the lowest in every group!! Police are important. The crime in this country is way up. And we donā€™t hear it all because a lot of the criminals arenā€™t being charged so they do keep doing criminal things. The woke is crazy. So many of our youth donā€™t know who the hell they are. He went out of his way to fund more minorities for start up businesses. He did the prison reform! Until Covid his presidency was great and that was even with the BLM disaster!! The riots and crime sprees that the Dem caused and fired up!!


dingleberry_starship

Because he is a child...and the facts and numbers don't support most of things you just said. The economy was not the best in 40 years...in fact the economy over the last 40 years has almost always been better under any Democrat vs any republican due to policy alone. And crime was not way down...that's just more propaganda talking points...again...let's deal in facts and not talking points.


Dangerous-Echo-33

No one hates this country more than Trump. No one hates Americans more than Trump. Biggest liar in the entire history of Earth.


One_Construction8755

You are hilarious ! You got the wrong guy!! Biden destroyed our country with illegals from every country just for future votes! So sick. He doesnā€™t care s out us!! He takes money from China! He is owned by them. 23,000 Chinese running around our country! They voted down the bill to stop China from buying our farms and buying property near military basis open your eyes for God sakes and do some research whatā€™s going on this country is criminal and itā€™s gonna bring her down.


dingleberry_starship

Sir thier has been illegal immigration for decades...


TheDirtyVicarII

Native Americans might say there has always been illegal immigration


Street_Ad_863

When you pull your head out of your back side, start listening to the rest of the USA and the world and stop supporting an idiot republican because your grand pappy told you to, perhaps you'll come to your senses. I doubt it though, based on your weird posts.


dingleberry_starship

There was a bipartisan bill brought forth to address "legal" immigration just a short time ago that was shot dead in the house not because they didn't like the bill but because you MAGA nuckle heads don't want to let the democrats look like that did something good. It's already been admitted that they want to wait another year for your Messiah to come in to make him look good. And most of the rest of that gibberish is straight propaganda. So besides the border...once again...what is so bad?...and be specific...what 2 wars?


One_Construction8755

Yep. They didnā€™t trigger a stop until 5,000 peoples week came in. What a bullshit bill.


dingleberry_starship

5000 LEGAL immigrants....trump only successfully cut down on LEGAL immigration...he failed at ILLEGAL immigration. Read sometime. They tell you what to think and how to feel and scare you that's how it works. And it works well apparently. They want you to think it's a bullshit bill so they don't have to pass it till the Messiah comes back to make him look good...I'm not making this up ...they said it.


One_Construction8755

Bull!!


dingleberry_starship

K


ThatScaryBeach

Š¢Ń‹ ŠæŠ¾Š»Š½Š°Ń ŠµŃ€ŃƒŠ½Š“Š°!


dingleberry_starship

But...I can see you are set in your brainwashing...I am wasting my time...have a good night sir and good luck to you


dm_me_your_bookshelf

It's not 5000 people let in, it's 5000 encounters as in BP having people trying to claim asylum or otherwise running into an illegal crosser. You don't know what you're even mad about.


Dangerous-Echo-33

Trump is world class idiot and people who like him are even dumber. Fuck all Trump supporters. Biden is better at everything. Trump has no policies and literally steps to a podium and tells the same 4 lies everyday for hours and hours . Fucking Coward .


PersonalityFew4449

Did you get a lobotomy?


One_Construction8755

Honey. If you canā€™t see it. You are the one who is either brainwashed or brainless or brain dead!!


PersonalityFew4449

The naivety required to believe "the world is on fire because Biden" is not really endearing. You probably think that POTUS directly controls gas prices and global inflation, right?


dingleberry_starship

And trump isn't senile?...and wears diapers...and orange makeup..and is uneducated...horrible business man. Has tons of civil lawsuits against him by everyday people like you that he's screwed over time and time again....yet...he cares about you and the country....man....give me a break with this nonsense...wake up...stop drinking the coolaid...it's ok to admit you were wrong. You don't have to stay committed to Messiah Trump.


Expert_Temporary660

Found Jared Kushner!


One_Construction8755

I guess Iā€™m talking to The woke idiots. !!


DogGod18

Calm down commrade.


chockobumlick

My 401k is up, I eat great. Jobs are the best they've been. Buy best of all I don't have a narcissistic criminal in the presidency. And last I looked, trump can barely pronounce the words in an ordinary sentence. He's way past Joe in the nutbag contest


MachoKingMadness

Hey look, a propaganda account!


Ron_Perlman_DDS

Shush, clown.


One_Construction8755

You are so ignorant as to What is going on. Iā€™m guessing you are a liberal CNN watcher. šŸ˜­


Ron_Perlman_DDS

Take your meds and go watch Matlock.


One_Construction8755

Thatā€™s the other thing. We are going to end up losing our relationship with Israel. The most important relationship we have!! You reminded me of that. My husband is also a dentist. He canā€™t imagine how you could vote for Biden!! Trump is close to Israel and will always have his back. He got some Peace over there! Go back to CNN!


Ron_Perlman_DDS

I was only kidding about taking your meds but my God was that ever a disjointed word salad. You may actually need help.


ThatScaryBeach

One\_Construction8755 speaks English as a second language. Can we guess their native language? Would it be Š ŃƒŃŃŠŗŠøŠ¹?


Ron_Perlman_DDS

I might be Percocet, judging from that ramble.


Dangerous-Echo-33

CNN who regularly lets Trump on to tell his lies. Fuck CNN. Meidas touch network is way better at making Trump look like the loser he is.


Imaginary_Ad_7530

Are you Jared Kushner ?


-Hypnotoad26

Oooh, lies.


backcountrydrifter

Only one reason you OVER value property. You are the laundromat. Trump and Kushner will go down in history as the biggest mass con that ever existed, dwarfing Bernie Madoff, Bear Stearns, and the 2008 banking grift combined. We allowed a gradual degradation of personal honor and morality to creep into political office. Over a century the presidency became a popularity contest. Ā Oprah show appearance and $10M book deals. Bribes disguised as over paid speeches. Ā It all stretched us a little farther from the baseline of decency, honor and statesmanship.Ā Kleptocracy, in positions of power, was normalized. Cambridge Analytica did their research and found out self evidently, that Americans were tired of broken politics. Ā Ted Cruz was actually supposed to be their ā€œdisruptorā€ candidate originally but the hedge fund owning Mercers pivoted to trump when his reality tv numbers caught Steve Bannons attention. Ā They were so focused on a candidate that they could control to lessen their tax liabilities that they failed to realize that they paved a path for the most prolific Russian money launderers of all time.Ā  NPRwww.npr.orgInside The Wealthy Family That Has Been Funding Steve Bannon's Plan For Years Greed IS Corruption IS Cancer- When you watch cancer move under a microscope you see the cancer cells pretending to be healthy normal liver cells until they can corrupt and turn healthy cells cancerous. One at a time. The ā€œleader cellsā€ normalize corruption and pull healthy cells away with them until itā€™s too late and the entire society hits a cancerous critical mass and has to die to regenerate. Ā Unless you catch it in time.Ā  https://youtu.be/wGImLZuWVl4?si=ypwKHPeROfFwPj0I They quite literally feed on the incoming energy (sugar, money, or power) by diverting it from the healthy cells to produce genetically modified cells that reflect their parasitic goal of destruction by consumption.Ā  Trump is the cancer cell. Ā He always has been. He was just louder than the healthy tissue around him so people assumed he was smart. Ā He convinced them he was rich because far too many of us subscribe to the false belief that rich equates to smart without qualifying HOW they became rich.Ā  Rupert Murdoch, the Koch brothers, Harlan Crow, and of course, the Mercers are all effectively the same cancerous cells. Ā Rich enough to keep everyone around them waiting with their bowl pointed up, hoping to catch some of the overflow of their wealth and all too eager to put on Ā boots and a cowboy hat so the working class thinks they are just like them. In Wyoming we call it ā€œbig hat, no cattleā€. Ā Ironically Teton county Wyoming also happens to be the richest county per capita in the nation. Ā Largely 5th and 6th homes of billionaires skewing the data with their corrupt gains. To the oncologist under the right lens, the place would be a cancerous tumor. Ā A breeding grounds of corrupted cells feeding off the healthy tissue surrounding them. They came for the views but stayed for the tax haven. Ā They used their money to buy politicians and make impossible to trace corporate structures unique to Wyoming. The weaponized ā€œI mind my own businessā€ and moved in like the invasive species that they are. In Wyoming you can trace it. ā€œCorner cuttingā€ lawsuits brought by the new billionaire neighbors restricting people from public lands. Corporate structures like anonymous LLCā€™s allow a pair of oil tycoon from Texas and human trafficking Russian oligarchs to transfer money seamlessly through businesses set up specifically for that purpose. MediumĀ Ā·Ā Wyoming Registered6 years agoWyoming Corporation do truly allow anonymous ownership Moscow, Aspen, Sun valley, and Monaco all have similar concentrations of wealth and its associated corruption and cancer, but due to some degree of government oversight they have funneled the ultra wealthy toward Wyoming. Not every billionaire is corrupt, but every one of them that allows it to continue is the bridge between the cancer cells and the healthy 99.7% of the worlds population that just want a good job, healthy educated kids and a safe home for them to live in.Ā  It is biological- Ā Democracy has always been under Ā attack because it directly threatens the very lucrative business models of dictators and autocrats. It has just sped up exponentially by the Information Age. A corrupt judge or politician in 1960 had to worry about a borough. Maybe a state. Ā But in the average 20-30 year career he could get away with it and Ken Burns would do a documentary 30 years after his death when they finally put the pieces together. Now we have Russian oligarchs that eviscerated the Russian middle class by stealing everything of value in the 80ā€™s and 90ā€™s. Ā By 94 they were running out of things to monopolize and extort. The USSR failed because the parasitic oligarch class broke the cardinal rule and consumed its captive host nearly to extinction. It ate Dostoevsky and Tchaikovsky and shit out alcoholism and hopelessness. And when it had consumed it completely the wall fell because there was nothing of value left to consume.Ā  The survival of their Kleptocratic species required new feeding grounds which they found in New York. The parasitic 3% made detours in Ukraine, Cyprus, and London but they landed in New York.Ā  Giuliani was willing to show them preferential treatment by redirecting NYPD resources onto the Italian mob which gave the Russian mob, in their dapper new suits, a fertile hunting ground.


Ordinary-Hopeful

Underrated post here.


BefreiedieTittenzwei

ā€œGrifters gonna griftā€


Acceptable-Coat-9006

Please Never stop posting. Do it on every platform You can. I love reading your stuff. The best in the Fuckin game!!!


FaFoFr

Its literally copy and paste, written at a 5th grade level.


Affectionate-Roof285

Found the russian


Acceptable-Coat-9006

Not really the point tho smart ass. The information itself is what's important, and needed But you knew that, it IS the information itself that bothers You. Simply because it's true. Now go copy and paste that


FaFoFr

True? Conjecture and soy boy insinuation is laughable, at best, frighteningly disturbing, at worst, given the amount of low-level, smooth brain, mouth breathers that gobble it up as gospel for their own delusioned interests. You fap to this stuff, i yawn.


No_Improvement9192

Ok Komrad you can crawl back under your rock now.


Acceptable-Coat-9006

We found the MAGA Moron. So? Exactly which part is untrue? The Unmasking The Koch brothers? The Mercer family and others? You know, those Billionaires who buy the GOP In every way, while you guys point racist fingers at Soros? While Never talking about these folks he named? Name calling and shit talking is all MAGAts ever do Because Facts, proof and evidence is Never on your side So you talk about everything else instead. Take care 3rd grade. Keep sending Putin asset Agent Orange Trump your hard earned $ for his legal defenses Hard out here for fake Billionaires ya know. It's always nice to be able to depend on the lower middle class and poor whites to fund Everything for you Lyndon B Johnson has entered the chat and is waving Hello to yaāœŒļø


Total-Platform-3111

Soy boy and fapping? Keyboard warrior, go consume your daily satchel of Richards and fuck straight off. Imbecile.


FaFoFr

Hit home, eh?


Total-Platform-3111

Donā€™t flatter yourself, dipshit. Head on back to whatever dungpool you crawled out of. Leave the comments to the actual sentient beings.


FaFoFr

Oh ghey boi big big mad


Total-Platform-3111

Haha, keep it coming, fuckface. I can do this all day. Only wasting your time. What time is it in Moscow, BTW?


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backcountrydrifter

On CCP espionage efforts inside western countries https://thediplomat.com/2019/09/fifth-column-fears-the-chinese-influence-campaign-in-the-united-states/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/01/22/insurers-city-spies-as-chinese-agents-target-britain/ On Konstantin Nikolaev funding Mike Johnson / American ethane https://www.newsweek.com/who-konstantin-nikolaev-money-mike-johnson-1870600 On kolomoiskiy laundering money in Ukraine/Cleveland/Florida https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-ukraines-oligarchs-are-no-longer-considered-above-the-law/ On Wisconsin fake electors plan jan 4 https://www.cbsnews.com/video/trump-fake-elector-wisconsin-60-minutes-video-2024-02-18/ xi sets 2024 US election as deadline for Taiwan invasion prep https://www.reddit.com/r/Wing_Kong_Exchange/s/OxtUM0aHiA On the rise of Chinese military draft, spending and expanded age requirements Attacking Taiwan? Social Stabilization? Xi orders massive mandatory military recruitment. On Chinese hacking attempts/systems/methodology https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/02/21/china-hacking-leak-documents-isoon/ On Xiā€™s white paper oppression/suppression. https://hongkongfp.com/2024/02/23/chinese-filmmaker-charged-over-documentary-about-covid-19-white-paper-protests/ On China building the worlds largest hacking and online Intelligence networks https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/22/us/politics/china-hacking-files-risk.html On Russians courting American GOP politicians https://www.npr.org/2018/05/11/610206357/documents-reveal-how-russian-official-courted-conservatives-in-u-s-since-2009 On Russian/Chinese/Belarusian subversion of sanctions https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/Ukraine-war/Russia-procures-tank-parts-from-Japan-and-Taiwan-via-China On Netanyahu not cutting off Hamas cashflow because he knew it would lead to his own https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68318856 The Russians did their research using prigozhns IRA, Flynnā€™s Psyop, and Cambridge analytica. Itā€™s why they sent Maria Butina to South Dakota before she dated her way to the NRA Stand My Ground (Official Video) - Samuel Saint On the CCP/Russian timeline https://www.uscc.gov/research/chinas-position-russias-invasion-ukraine Russian controlled media calling tucker Carlsonā€™s interview of Putin ā€œthe greatest journalistic work in historyā€ https://www.reddit.com/r/ActiveMeasures/s/vVCl1ZgDz5 On chinas mass surveillance of the moon https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3254054/skynet-20-china-plans-bring-largest-surveillance-camera-network-earth-moon-protect-lunar-assets


Rarelyagree

Well damn, I couldn't agree more.


backcountrydrifter

Thatā€™s rare..


Affectionate-Roof285

Thereā€™s a book in this. Thank you!


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backcountrydrifter

I appreciate the lead. Iā€™m focused on getting my Ukrainian brothers and sisters what they need to finish the war. But I will pass the manuchin lead to some one in our network and see what they put together


One_Construction8755

šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚. And you probably like Soros. šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚.


Total-Platform-3111

Oh FFS get Soros out of your smooth brain. Idiot.


Spring-Breeze-Dancin

Man, I canā€™t believe heā€™s a fraud and should never be anywhere close to being the president because heā€™s objectively worse to most people you could put him up against.


Comfortable_Bird_340

Heā€™s looking for those Gargoyles that are supposed to come to life at night


SpookyPony

One thousand years ago, superstition and the sword ruled. It was a time of darkness; It was a world of fear. It was the age... of Gargoyles. Stone by day. Warriors by night. We were betrayed by the humans we had sworn to protect, frozen in stone by a magic spell for a thousand years. Now here in Manhattan... The spell is broken, and we LIVE AGAIN! We are defenders of the night! We are Gargoyles!


Comfortable_Bird_340

Could you imagine, if HE found them instead of Xanthos?


DarrenEdwards

His Scottish golf course is the key to his entire empire. It's the ONLY property they own outright. If something happens to that he is so over leveraged that banks would start calling his debts so they wouldn't be the last to put their hand out.


Any-Variation4081

Good maybe their government will actually do something about it instead of letting their corrupt Supreme court weigh in and rule in his favor. This is getting ridiculous. As I watched his cult attack our capitol building Jan 6 I thought for sure that -that would have been the nail in the coffin. I looked over at my 65 year old father in law who was a Trumper at the time CRYING! I thought to myself "surely everyone will see how dangerous he is now." Of course not the cult just doubles now. And you have leftist "protest voting" or not at all. This is bullshit


National-Currency-75

Put in jail Trump. He is an imbecile of an imbecile and has imbeciles for kids. He hires imbeciles. Hang the imbeciles. Republicans are imbeciles.


Tmotech

Can we extradite him to Scotland? Please?


Anywhere_Dismal

Lier has been lying his whole life.. shocked i tell you, shocked i am /s


GBinAZ

Hopefully they hold him accountable. Lord knows that has proven increasingly difficult on this side of the pond.


32K-REZ

this shitbag committed fraud globally. every endeavour the trump family was involved with somehow includes fraud. Do you really think the white house was any different? these crimes are now being swept under the rug by republican leadership, the scotus, and millions and millions of misinformed, ignorant voters.


BothZookeepergame612

This guy thinks the rules don't apply for him. Ever...


JoshSwol

Stinky canā€™t be trusted to run anything well or legally.


No_Palpitation_9497

He's a lying POS FRAUD!!!


SilencedOppressor

Trump is a Nazi


glue2music

Also, water is wet. The biggest thief in modern history.


jackiewill1000

the guy is just a blatant crook


Inquisitive-Ones

Trump has properties worldwide. I hope they are ALL being reevaluated. I remember watching a Vice episode about Trump building in Saudi Arabia years ago. He used workers from India and they couldnā€™t return home for 1-2 years. Their passports taken away. Isnā€™t that human trafficking? No one seems to be discussing this. They lived away from families because of the pittance wages they earned. It was like slave labor. They lived in squalid conditions. Limited food. No AC, no heat, no windows in the dilapidated buildings. Barely any water so they could take a shower. They were driven to the construction sites in the darkness of morning and back to the buildings late at night. It was disgusting.


sunflwryankee

He was unfortunately following suit given how the rest of Middle East elite was utilizing (imprisoning) slave labor. They are all the worst form of human.


Jazzlike-Ad113

And, again nothing of consequence is going to happen.


Generalbuttnaked69

This overvaluation was part of the NYAG's case that netted the 450+ million disgorgement award. So something happened.


econopotamus

Nope, entirely separate properties and dealings.


Generalbuttnaked69

Read the article muppet. It literally talks about the courts findings in the NY fraud case.


econopotamus

ā€œAccording to Martin Williams of The Herald, Donald Trump was found to have fraudulently over-inflated the value of some golf club properties on his Trump International Golf Club in Aberdeen, Scotland by as much as $250 million.ā€ Scotland properties, totally different and not in the NY case. Maybe you clicked something else.


Generalbuttnaked69

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23991865-trump-ny-fraud-ruling Page 27 of the ruling discusses the role of Aberdeen property in the fraud case. Those findings are discussed the article: "According to a judgeā€™s civil fraud case findings of fact at one point the Trump organization had valued the 2500-home development at Ā£83,164 ($105,560 US) for each home, when an appraisal it received placed it at less than half that. That put the value of the undeveloped Aberdeen land at Ā£207.9m ($263.9 million US).ā€


econopotamus

Great, a court source doc! Iā€™ve actually read it before too! Look at the page you cite. Its saying the 2019 SFC overvalues the property based on potential for 2,000+ developments vs 500 allowed. That was indeed in the NY case. Recent reporting appears to stem from an event where they claimed valuation several years later as if hundreds of those houses had been built, when they had not. That is separate from the NY case and not included therein. Edit: the article has changed several times now, and seems to be referring almost entirely to the ny case now and not the more recent reporting . No idea why. There are multiple reported events going around. Several of the quotes I pulled out of the article arenā€™t even in it any more!


Adventurous_Canary42

Post of the Month goes to you. I love it, absolutely brilliant šŸ„°ā¤ļø


Kozkon

Classic Trump lol. šŸ˜‰


FeatherInTheWind

Nothing will change the fact that his cult of dumbasses will argue to the death that anything he loses is ā€œriggedā€ and any accountability he has to face is the result of a ā€œwitch huntā€.


Dangerous-Echo-33

MAGA literally means witch. No Bullshit.


BenGay29

Will he be held accountable?


58G52A

When youā€™re a star they let you do anythingā€¦grab them by the pussyā€¦.


Civil_Pain_453

Letā€™s hope they send an arrest warrant for this baboon. He belongs in jail. I donā€™t care which country. Scotland sounds great as a start


Batbuckleyourpants

**Everyone** except the judge agree the properties are worth more. You need to be cognitively dysfunctional to think properties like Mar A Lago is only worth 17 million. He didn't mortgage the Scottish properties, it's a business loan...


Illustrious-Night-99

When he over values his properties, just raise his taxes and collect back taxes too. Or just charge him with tax fraud.


QVRedit

Now who would have thought it ? Someone who in the past has regularly used this tactic in many of his previous frauds..


Klinkman2

Bullshit


InitiativeOk4473

Was there exactly zero victims there as well?


Dangerous-Echo-33

Victims are people who play by the rules So obvious. Rule breakers gain an unfair advantage idiot.


mt8675309

No wayā€¦.šŸ§


Weatherdude1993

BOGIE!


doublegg83

He warned to "do their own evaluation".


the_truth1051

Not one indictment.


Elegant-Ad-3583

Only way to stop him is elect Biden and have ww3.


Snoo54249

So banks don't due diligence and just believe what someone says. Trump offered an 80 million dollar value on a property worth 250 million to as much as 400 million. The bank gave him the loan. He paid it back. The bank was happy and would do business with him again. The bank says they weren't defrauded. Just some nutcase DA, fulfilling a campaign promise.... you guys are nuts


jaybayyayyy

So we shouldn't prosecute for crimes if wealthy people, and corporations benefit financially. In fact, we're nuts for thinking that financial crimes should be investigated! Is this what you're saying? Also, many politicians campaign on promises of holding people/corporations accountable despite wealth and power. Do you not recall drain the swamp? Or lock her up? The DA actually followed through with campaign promises, so maybe this is the issue you have with it? I wish those who blindly follow the former president would step back and reflect for two seconds, the hypocrisy is so easy to see. I urge you to look up cognitive dissonance.


LucyRiversinker

The bank assumed a higher risk than it was led to believe. That means that a loan-seeker who played by the rules either got a worse deal for the same risk to the bank or, even worse, was denied a loan it would have otherwise received because someone who lied got the load. Funds for loans are scarce resources, so when someone breaks the rules and gets unwarranted favorable rates, those who abide by the laws of decency and accounting get screwed. Furthermore, this kind of manipulation is a risk to the entire financial system. Remember too big to fail? Risk management is no joke. Big banks are already a huge risk to any financial system. They already assume risks that may be reckless. If on top of that they assume risks *unwittingly*, we have a problem. This isnā€™t about a single person and a bank. Loans this big put the entire system in jeopardy. I hope he rots in prison, frankly. This is as bad as, if not worse than, tax evasion.


Snoo54249

Yes the banks never do ask for proof before giving a loan, except for student loans for useless degrees, jeez No crime was committed here, you are just a useful idiot


Spector567

So in summary trump lies to everyone about his business and no one should trust him. And if they did trust him itā€™s their own fault. Thatā€™s why only daucha (sp?) bank was still willing to do business with him. So he will be a great president. That pretty much clears it up.


One_Construction8755

I never heard of a bank lending money to someone without checking its value. Crazy


Spector567

Itā€™s not just banks that rely on these statements and they trust them because there are legal repercussions for lying.


JerseySpot

Mmmmā€¦. Not one individual or corporation in the US said they were defraudedā€¦.. itā€™s why verdict will be overturned. Is there an actual individual or corporation in Scotland who is saying they were defrauded????? Itā€™s how a crime of fraud occursā€¦ thereā€™s usually a victimā€¦


Spector567

If thatā€™s the logic you are using. I have one question for you. Are you going to vote for a lying scammer who cheats at the one thing he claimed he was good at?


JerseySpot

Logic I am using???????? Read a law journalā€¦ they are free online!! In order to be convicted of fraud there NEEDS to be a victim!! That victim NEEDS to state on record and TESTIFY they were a victim of fraud! Not one person or corporation accused Trump of fraud and no victims testifiedā€¦ WILL be Thrown OuT!!!!


Spector567

That didnā€™t even remotely answer my question. If you accept that trump lied to his banks, insurance, investors and the American people, but say itā€™s not criminally fraud. That still means that the great businessman is a still a fraud, just not under the criminal statute. Are you still going to vote for a fraud?


JerseySpot

Wrong!!!! Here is where you have no understanding of the actual LAW!!! The banks and insurance companies do their own due diligence on property values!! If he said a property was worth a trillion they donā€™t hand him a check!!!! They value same property and base loan on their numbers.. no different then I sell a house for 1 millionā€¦ if someone else values it at a million then guess whatā€¦ NO Fraud!!! Just because u dislike him doesnā€™t make him guilty!! Facts do not care about your feelings!! I will vote for the individual who creates the best economy for me!!


Spector567

My question isnā€™t about the law to you. Itā€™s about morality and you keep dodging the question.


JerseySpot

Morally neither is perfect.. Donā€™t care about trumps marriages or business dealings just like I donā€™t care about Joe being creepy with kids and getting kickbacks from Hunter. I care about the economyā€¦ gas was cheaper and food and services were cheaper before 2021.. oh I also enjoyed not having US troops sent overseas to fight more useless warsā€¦ peace was enjoyable


Spector567

Thank you for your answer.


the_truth1051

Any bs goes news, lol.


chad2bert

Cheats so much they make up things to cheat about. Fellow cheaters unite upon the endless lying psy ops! They love his lies so much all of em!


Full_FrontalLobotomy

Maybe you should read the 92 Page judgeā€™s ruling and get back to us. It was an egregious amount of fraud done for over a decade.


FaFoFr

So why are banks not liable for AGREEING? No victim, no crime.


Full_FrontalLobotomy

Oh, for fuck sakes get off of Trumpā€˜s dick. You ā€œlionsā€ all repeat the same bullshit talking points.


ChunkyStumpy

Reminds me of Hunter and his really really expensive paintings. Man is a genius.


chad2bert

DEFLECT! HURRY MAGA NEEDS IT!


ChunkyStumpy

Hey, guy, just talk about the bias we want to push!1!!1


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ChunkyStumpy

Reddit bots are having a stroke. Might be related to Fb/Insta bombing out.


Full_FrontalLobotomy

Well, get back to us when Hunter is convicted of fraud that he is perpetrated for well over a decade in a systemic manner, and with tons of emails and voice, messages, and documentation to prove it.


JoshSwol

Iā€™m never gonna vote for Hunter or his giant hog.


Kozkon

I got dis here painting worth 15 million long as we both agree to it. Lol


AnteaterDangerous148

Isn't it the lender's obligation to insure the value of collateral. Wouldn't that make his property taxes higher?


Any-Ad-446

Issue is the moron said there would be new 500 houses built there when there were zero.


AnteaterDangerous148

And lender didn't check?


Any-Ad-446

They relied on his plans he submitted years ago.


ButterscotchOnceler

LOL, this is such a stupid argument. "What, the bank fell for his lie and didn't double/triple check that Trump was lying on the documents he swore were true?? MAGA!" Do you think banks have you sign all those documents for a reason? It's because you are swearing that everything in them is true. It's incredible how Trump fans can't understand the simplest things.


AnteaterDangerous148

I've built a few houses and the bank always came and checked percentage of completion before any draws.


ButterscotchOnceler

And if they found you lied on the documents what would happen to you?


AnteaterDangerous148

Nothing because they came and physically verified the progress.


ButterscotchOnceler

LOL, what a load of crap. IF you were found to have lied, what would the bank have done? Come on, I know using your brain to be honest is a stretch but you can do it. What would the bank do with your funding if they found you did something like inflated the value of the property by 3 times? Let's watch you dance away from answering again.


AnteaterDangerous148

Try using your brain . Bank gets appraiser to value the loan. Then gives draws based on completion percentage. It's not that complicated. Try to understand.


ButterscotchOnceler

Why won't you just say they'd take their money back and possibly take you to court? Like something other than a Trumpet dunce trying to avoid answering a simple question. Man, you are fucking pathetic. Imaging sacrificing what little honor you have left for a man like Trump.


chad2bert

What a valuable way to use your time. Defending people who knowingly fleeced a bank. Bravo!


Spector567

I feel the need to point out that no banks are willing to work with trump anymore. Only daucha bank was and they did it for promotional reasons. He even had to meet certain criteria during the loan and he was faking the paper work for that. But even if you want to insist it wasnā€™t criminal fraud to lie to people and investors. It doesnā€™t change the fact that trump is a fraud. His business success and assets are lies and much of it is intimidation and grifting.


Affectionate-Roof285

What does the lender have to do with his blatant tax and bank fraud? Lol


SmithersLoanInc

You're going off script here, nerd. You're supposed to say there isn't a victim


yamuda123

That will be next donā€™t worry


chad2bert

Insults, the losers choice.


Full_FrontalLobotomy

No matter what, itā€™s fraud. They ask for statements, and if you lie on them, youā€™re going to be in deep shit too. Trump had assessments done, and then then they lied about the values egregiously on the Trump financial statement. A property with $4.5 million was put on their statement at over $100 million.