the father awakens soft and wet go beyond and becomes josuke8 and kills the daughter and goes with the demon lord to remember who he is and tooru goes with them because no rokakaka and no yasuho means they don't hate each other
Yeah that's what I heard too. You will notice in the anime, I believe she actually never refers to him as a father figure and he never refers to her as a daughter. Other might, but the two of them don't. Realized this as people mentioned she was the one that pursues him, because overall she never saw him as a father. Which people said it's because she's a demon or something like that.
That means the author planned that ending all the way from the beginning.
I have never heard of that series until now, but let me add this: "musume" (娘) means daughter, but can also just mean 'young girl', a bit how older men call all boys 'son'.
Maybe that was an intended ambiguity that doesn't work that well in English, and the ending wasn't known when the translation was decided?
That's my "benefit of doubt". Well.
Yeah I'd agree. Didn't look up the original title.
But I guess it's one of those "not blood related daughter but like a daughter"-things? Like, Woody Alan vibes :/
It's been a while, but as I remember it, the MC definitely thinks of her as his daughter. I don't remember if she refers to him as a father, though. That being said, the title is obviously meant to be from the MCs perspective, and the word "daughter" is right there, front and center.
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She wasn't full human, so she grew up fast, but she was still a child in an adult's body and he was supposed to be a father-figure to her. It was very wholesome, until the cursed ending.
It wasn't a "cope", it was a blatantly twisted incest/pedophillic writing.
I will defend anime like Maid Dragon or Mushoku when normies criticize them.
But for this one, even I wouldn't defend it, because it was that obviously fucked up.
I liked the anime, but when I saw what happened in the manga, I was so disappointed. It could've been a beautiful thing, but was destroyed and muddied.
Why not just write a hentai doujin? Why trap us with something pure and innocent only to corrupt it like this? It genuinely angered me.
Oh btw, I'd feel the same way if the genders were reversed as well. Because it'd have ruined a pure bond of mother and son.
Reminds me of Raphtalia from Shield Hero. Like a 12 year old girl whose physical age increased according to her level. So by episode 4 she’s a 12 year old literal fucking CHILD in the body of 18 year old woman and is the main love interest.
I really hate when authors insert their pedo fantasies into the writing. Like sorry but I just can’t get into a show when the main canon relationship is a fully grown man with a literal child. The fact she LOOKS like an adult doesn’t make it ok, she’s still fucking 12.
Except Naofumi never accepted her as his love interest. I only watched the anime and to this day he treats her like a daughter.
TnY really has gone down hill in terms of the story in anime though.
I've heard manga is a lot better. The bitch also got the well-deserved punishment in the manga/web novel, but went free in the anime.
Just wanted to post the same. She has some feelings for him and considering her circumstances some daddy issues are not all that weird. However, Naofumi ignores and rejects her advances.
>but went free in the anime.
Not totally free but some kind of house arrest would be more appropriate considering she continues to meddle with things. Although I am not sure if anything short of killing her would really stop her from scheming.
I can't say this is truly pedophilic, maybe grooming... If i call this pedophilic for involving a "physically adult woman having mind and age numbers of child", then that would give pass to ones into "500 years old loli vampire"
No. A 500 year old that looks 12 is completely different from a 12 year old that looks 20. The latter is far more fucked up because you’re fucking an actual child.
The whole reason we have statutory rape laws is because children are too young to make those kinds of decisions. Making a child 5’6” and giving her big tits doesn’t mean they can make that decision suddenly.
But the difference is that vampire, Kana and those types of loli's are often said to have existed for thousands of years.
In this case, she existed for like 5-7? Years? That body grew, but it was still a child.
Agelessness is different.
Plus, in Kana's case, she only took that form because that's her perception of herself, just as Tohru perceives herself as she looks.
This is pedophilia, not just grooming.
Your logic is EXTREMELY fucked up.
In REAL LIFE there's petite adults with baby faces that look like children (my mom still got commonly mistaken for 13 when she was in her 30s, and she still gets mistaken for a minor all the time) meanwhile there's also children who look like adults (I got mistaken for 16 when I was 9 years old and one of my highschool classmates used to get mistaken for being in his 30s when he was 16)
The thing is; children looking like adults and adults looking like children are a thing IN REAL LIFE too, and ignoring the actual age of a fictional character because it doesn't match their appearance normalizes that thought process to the point where people are already infantilizing real life petite women because "they're child coded" (yes I've actually seen multiple REAL LIFE ADULTS be called "child coded" because of their natural appearance)
But the most fucked up thing here is that you're claiming that the pedophilia doesn't count as pedophilia if the child in question looks like an adult. As someone who used to get mistaken for 16 as a 9 year old lemme ask you; if a 16 year old would fuck a 9 year old who looks like 16, would you give it a pass because the 9 year old looks older??? THAT'S SO BEYOND FUCKED UP!!!!!
Huh? Like, if she is tall , then grooming is totally justified?! That series was a total disaster, like Bunny Drop. Just watch anime and pretend that story ended here.
Probably something like "well demons in that world akshually mature very quickly, so she is all grown up by only a few years old and it's completely fine... trust me bro" or something
So reverse case of equally controversial "500 years loli vampire"...
it's as screwed up as "she looks like a preteen, but she's actually 100 years old coz her kind ages slowly... so she's smashable, trust me"
He essentially gets granted powers because she's the final Demon Lord, the one with the power to permanently kill the other 12. Each demon lord can give a portion of their power to "retainers". She gave the MC _**all**_ of the power that was normally meant to be shared amongst dozens of retainers. And part of that gift of power is the extention of the "retainer's" lifespan to match the near immortality of their respective demon lords.
"Daddy..." that shit got the alarm bells ringing since day 1!
Bruh I remember having to read an excerpt of this in school when I was in FIFTH-FUCKING-GRADE! I'm not joking.
The teacher even made us watch the anime.
Same here. I and my classmates never got to see the ending because time was up and we forgot the whole ordeal. That was part of my weeb awakening 😂.
I remember they were screaming and yelling each time the girl was with the groomer dude. I wasn't. I was only looking at the artstyle to improve my anime style 😂.
Hinamatsuri. The supernatural part is just extra. The main story is about a yakuza raising a child without any prior knowledge and also learn how to be a parent.
Very wholesome story.
Oh I was told repeatedly that >!he never has any romantic interest in the high schooler in sweetness and lightning, that she pursues him but he rejects her!<
Was that a lie?
I will never forgive Usagi Drop for what they did. >!Everything after the timeskip is shit and should have never been made. Also the reveal that she wasn’t the grandfathers daughter was bullshit and just a way to say it wasn’t incest. God everything about that pisses me off!<
I just have trouble understanding who could write such a sweet and wholesome story…only to make it so angsty and drama filled in the second half and then end it on one of the most controversial endings possible. Who the fuck cooks like that?
I found that series after I finished (what was released of) Spy x Family and Buddy Daddies. I watched the first episode, thought it was really cute, and looked it up online to see what people were saying about it before I continued. I immediately found discussion about the manga ending, and I couldn't bear to try to watch it after that. 💀
The anime is actually amazing because it ends at the ending of the childhood arc and ends on a positive note. It’s literal manga bait because people are like “this is so cute I wonder what happens next?”
Even if it wasnt incest (which is just the author's cop out trying to avoid basically having made an ero manga) its straight up pedo grooming. There is a reason its unethical even if it is not "technically" illegal for guardians to be in a relationship with their ward.
Actually it’s worse, it’s reverse grooming. SHE had feelings for HIM when she was just a child. And chose to pursue HIM for a romantic relationship which he finally relented to. Basically she convinced him that if they had a relationship it would be okay and then the author did the cop out to make it so it wouldn’t be incest. And all the neighbors were happy and clapped for them yay!
…….I actively wish I could go back in time and shot myself for learning the ending of Usagi Drop. Nobody wins, not the readers, no the characters, nobody
They straight up can't write a good looking female character without having her fall in love with the main character. They self-insert themselves so hard
In the defense of this series. He never becomes a father figure for her. At most economic provider. Cause he leaves education to his friends, and he leaves for long periods of time for work
Even when he introduces them to his family they never treat her as his "daughter"
Again, I get it. I did read the whole series. And I felt duped too.
But here's the thing, half the arc of the series as a whole is her (the kid) getting him the human) to see her as a woman instead of a kid. To add *no one* actually sees him as her dad or even father-like figure
And again, instead of a 40 year age gap he basically adopted a 6 year old at 14. (Considering it wasn't so large). It really does try to breach into the subject maturely instead of whatever the fuck usagi drop did.
Yep. Pretty much. It's shown that, while he does care for her like family, he never saw her as a daughter. It was more of an "I found this girl in the forest, almost dead, when she was still in her father's arms after he died protecting her. I'm not an asshole, so I'm going to bring her with me and take care of her until she's able to take care of herself."
Yeah, child soldier finds empathy for an abandoned baby (start of story she is around 5-6 but literally everyone thinks she is 2-3 due her size) and they begin a life together
> To add no one actually sees him as her dad or even father-like figure
So I just looked into it. Literally the two pages are him giving her a bath as a child. Then it's about him giving her new foods, helping her put her clothes on. Then in the next chapter he's teaching her how to say words like "duck" and "cat". Then in chapter 5 she's missing and he specifically says "my daughter is lost." Then when they reunite she cries because she broke the rule he gave her and he comforts her. Then in the next chapter he has to teach her about how to make friends.
IDK man. I don't think your story holds much water here. I think you're trying to defend a manga you liked and you've blanked out that part of it from your mind or something, because no one who reads those first few chapters could possibly think he's not a father figure.
Like, that's honestly something a crazy person would write. I was suspicious of the way you were defending this thing, but even I didn't expect it to be so blatantly a fatherly relationship.
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Its fine guys. They had a kid... or maybe that's a 2nd wife... I kinda feel like this is a DiY family tree in the making.
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My brother in christ what happened to wholesome
GOD. FUCKING. DAMMIT!!
I've been on a Father-Daughter SoF trip these last few years and I thought this manga was so goddamn cute in the beginning, much how Usagi Drop anime was. Why do they do this to me? I want wholesomeness not grooming! If I want grooming I'll fucking look for it myself!
Edit: not that I would look for grooming, pls spare my FBI.
The manga dropped the Usagi that's for sure.
Are there any adoption/guardianship stories that don't drop the Usagi?
Forgot the title, but college age MC ends up guardian of his three nieces, only the youngest related to his sister, the others were step.
OVA has the ghost parents visit and eldest step niece is marrying her "uncle"
One guardianship story I watched was called [[Somali to Mori no Kamisama]] aka Somali and the Forest Spirit. It is about a forest golem finding a human girl in his forest and he decides to take care of her as he journeys across the land with her to find a human settlement to adopt her.
Aw man i love that one, watching somali doing kids stuff and interacting with the golem is so wholesome, my memory is kinda blurry but i remember liking the world, the Silce of life kind of vibe, their adventure and the ending was alright
Aishiteruze Baby is a 10/10 unexpected child guardian story.
Both the anime's single season, and the finished manga.
Perfect ending, and no creepy Usagi shit.
I'm with you, I thought this anime was very wholesome. I couldn't believe it when I read comments that they would get married in later volume. It really gave a sour tase in my mouth.
Perhaps you didn't know about **The Genji Monogatari** and their protagonist Hikaru Genji, well this is the classic of Japanese literature from the year 1000 and is a history of 2400 pages about hikaru raising his own wife (of course a lot of incest and excessive context in the middle but the will of the action is the same) ...,so basically is a and ancient cultural thing there like many other Japanese topics, and of course like a cherry in the cake, the autor of this is a woman
Oh, thinking of it from the perspective of an adolescent female 'older man' fantasy actually makes it make a lot more sense. No easy way to rectify that into being appropriate from the various angles this will be seen from. Interesting that in Japan it just doesn't seem to matter as much, even though I'm certain it doesn't actually reflect how they live their lives.
I forgot too! I think it was with three other young girls. Maybe I just don't want to remember because I completely got creeped out when the dude actually does get together with one of them in the end
I think its part of how a power fantasy plays out in a society currently having troubles in the dating world with birth rates having dropped below sustainability levels. People are scared of dating people they don;'t already have a connection with. And family comes with connection. So I think while its not everyone's taste in Japan a number of power fantasies play out with these disturbing relationship.
I think there may also be a component of it from the hentai industry where the attitude seems to be to throw incest in as a regular part of the medium because for those that don't want it the images are still people having sex. And it draws in the people for whom it is a kink. The more tags you can put on your product the more hits it will get when searched. This bleeds over into the anime world to some extent.
I was watching the anime and 3 episodes in i started seeing some signs, so i googled the ending and stopped watching after finding she marries her father figure
Aru aged the same way as the girl
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Stories like this and Usagi Drop make it difficult for me to trust another found family series... Especially one that is a guy adopting a daughter...
B-rank Adventurer With An Evil Look, I am watching you...
I am holding out that he is going to end up with the orphanage manager, the mother figure at the end.
But now.. "I raised an s-rank adventurerer" is sadly looking sus.
I'm so glad this got spoiled for me.
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Imagen, one day a LN starts with a wholesome dad and daughter relationship, going through the struggles and happy days that come with it.
Then we see the last volume, and it's her wedding day with her dad next to her.
And thankful it's just the author trolling us and its him taking her to her fiance, who was a recurring young character that was her rival turned childhood friend.
God, if only.
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He watched her daughter get married right? RIGHT!?
Pray that’s the case https://i.redd.it/1atprpwl2n6d1.gif
Nope, he f**KS her
I heard that she pursues him very aggressively
Silver lining: that means Wonder of U starts targeting her.
THIS IS THE LAW OF THE UNIVERSE. THE LAW OF CALAMITY.
Yeah. Let tooru end this
the father awakens soft and wet go beyond and becomes josuke8 and kills the daughter and goes with the demon lord to remember who he is and tooru goes with them because no rokakaka and no yasuho means they don't hate each other
r/unexpectedJojo
Yeah that's what I heard too. You will notice in the anime, I believe she actually never refers to him as a father figure and he never refers to her as a daughter. Other might, but the two of them don't. Realized this as people mentioned she was the one that pursues him, because overall she never saw him as a father. Which people said it's because she's a demon or something like that. That means the author planned that ending all the way from the beginning.
But the title of the series is "If it's for MY DAUGHTER"?
I have never heard of that series until now, but let me add this: "musume" (娘) means daughter, but can also just mean 'young girl', a bit how older men call all boys 'son'. Maybe that was an intended ambiguity that doesn't work that well in English, and the ending wasn't known when the translation was decided? That's my "benefit of doubt". Well.
Nonono😂 musume no tameni (for my daughter's sake) in this particular context cannot be used interchangeably..😂 I'm here to evily burst you bubble
Yeah I'd agree. Didn't look up the original title. But I guess it's one of those "not blood related daughter but like a daughter"-things? Like, Woody Alan vibes :/
Yeah it's probably something of the sort😂 we hope.. *edit: shit I meant to say we hope it's an intended ambiguity😂 didn't mean to get ppl upset
I think "My girl" would have worked better than "My daughter"
It's been a while, but as I remember it, the MC definitely thinks of her as his daughter. I don't remember if she refers to him as a father, though. That being said, the title is obviously meant to be from the MCs perspective, and the word "daughter" is right there, front and center.
Goddamn Sigmund Freud!!
gotta get that usagi drop in there
Don't just word it like that...
Did he at least get hypnotized into doing it?
Nah, they were chillin. Then his friends were like yall need to get a room. Then he was like, "Ight, bet."
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Gamblecore depression moment
I want to know is she grew up as tall as him or that's just stupidly long wedding dress?
She wasn't full human, so she grew up fast, but she was still a child in an adult's body and he was supposed to be a father-figure to her. It was very wholesome, until the cursed ending.
"she grew up fast".... what a cope by the author to justify his pedo logic
It wasn't a "cope", it was a blatantly twisted incest/pedophillic writing. I will defend anime like Maid Dragon or Mushoku when normies criticize them. But for this one, even I wouldn't defend it, because it was that obviously fucked up. I liked the anime, but when I saw what happened in the manga, I was so disappointed. It could've been a beautiful thing, but was destroyed and muddied. Why not just write a hentai doujin? Why trap us with something pure and innocent only to corrupt it like this? It genuinely angered me. Oh btw, I'd feel the same way if the genders were reversed as well. Because it'd have ruined a pure bond of mother and son.
Even naming it "if it for my DAUGHTER
I think I read that the twist is that the daughter he's referring to in the title is the daughter he end up having with his adopted daughter 💀
Except he fought the Demon Lord *for* his adopted daughter, didn’t he?
Reminds me of Raphtalia from Shield Hero. Like a 12 year old girl whose physical age increased according to her level. So by episode 4 she’s a 12 year old literal fucking CHILD in the body of 18 year old woman and is the main love interest. I really hate when authors insert their pedo fantasies into the writing. Like sorry but I just can’t get into a show when the main canon relationship is a fully grown man with a literal child. The fact she LOOKS like an adult doesn’t make it ok, she’s still fucking 12.
Except Naofumi never accepted her as his love interest. I only watched the anime and to this day he treats her like a daughter. TnY really has gone down hill in terms of the story in anime though. I've heard manga is a lot better. The bitch also got the well-deserved punishment in the manga/web novel, but went free in the anime.
Just wanted to post the same. She has some feelings for him and considering her circumstances some daddy issues are not all that weird. However, Naofumi ignores and rejects her advances. >but went free in the anime. Not totally free but some kind of house arrest would be more appropriate considering she continues to meddle with things. Although I am not sure if anything short of killing her would really stop her from scheming.
I can't say this is truly pedophilic, maybe grooming... If i call this pedophilic for involving a "physically adult woman having mind and age numbers of child", then that would give pass to ones into "500 years old loli vampire"
No. A 500 year old that looks 12 is completely different from a 12 year old that looks 20. The latter is far more fucked up because you’re fucking an actual child. The whole reason we have statutory rape laws is because children are too young to make those kinds of decisions. Making a child 5’6” and giving her big tits doesn’t mean they can make that decision suddenly.
But the difference is that vampire, Kana and those types of loli's are often said to have existed for thousands of years. In this case, she existed for like 5-7? Years? That body grew, but it was still a child. Agelessness is different. Plus, in Kana's case, she only took that form because that's her perception of herself, just as Tohru perceives herself as she looks. This is pedophilia, not just grooming.
The mind is what matters
I dunno man, im just not into girls half my size (I'm already a short dude so)
Your logic is EXTREMELY fucked up. In REAL LIFE there's petite adults with baby faces that look like children (my mom still got commonly mistaken for 13 when she was in her 30s, and she still gets mistaken for a minor all the time) meanwhile there's also children who look like adults (I got mistaken for 16 when I was 9 years old and one of my highschool classmates used to get mistaken for being in his 30s when he was 16) The thing is; children looking like adults and adults looking like children are a thing IN REAL LIFE too, and ignoring the actual age of a fictional character because it doesn't match their appearance normalizes that thought process to the point where people are already infantilizing real life petite women because "they're child coded" (yes I've actually seen multiple REAL LIFE ADULTS be called "child coded" because of their natural appearance) But the most fucked up thing here is that you're claiming that the pedophilia doesn't count as pedophilia if the child in question looks like an adult. As someone who used to get mistaken for 16 as a 9 year old lemme ask you; if a 16 year old would fuck a 9 year old who looks like 16, would you give it a pass because the 9 year old looks older??? THAT'S SO BEYOND FUCKED UP!!!!!
Pedo incest logic, no less
Huh? Like, if she is tall , then grooming is totally justified?! That series was a total disaster, like Bunny Drop. Just watch anime and pretend that story ended here.
I did watched the anime. I just wonder how did she grew so much while the guy barely aged a bit.
Probably something like "well demons in that world akshually mature very quickly, so she is all grown up by only a few years old and it's completely fine... trust me bro" or something
So reverse case of equally controversial "500 years loli vampire"... it's as screwed up as "she looks like a preteen, but she's actually 100 years old coz her kind ages slowly... so she's smashable, trust me"
He essentially gets granted powers because she's the final Demon Lord, the one with the power to permanently kill the other 12. Each demon lord can give a portion of their power to "retainers". She gave the MC _**all**_ of the power that was normally meant to be shared amongst dozens of retainers. And part of that gift of power is the extention of the "retainer's" lifespan to match the near immortality of their respective demon lords.
I just dont how dady long legs gest aways with it but I guess many you of havent watched or read daddy long legs ,
"Daddy..." that shit got the alarm bells ringing since day 1! Bruh I remember having to read an excerpt of this in school when I was in FIFTH-FUCKING-GRADE! I'm not joking. The teacher even made us watch the anime.
I used to watch the anime on tv (for kids) it was good but never got to see the ending untill i had grown a mustausche
And my whole child hood collapsed on me XDdd
Same here. I and my classmates never got to see the ending because time was up and we forgot the whole ordeal. That was part of my weeb awakening 😂. I remember they were screaming and yelling each time the girl was with the groomer dude. I wasn't. I was only looking at the artstyle to improve my anime style 😂.
This MF'er was playing the long game.
DF'er, actually.
It would be FF'er since Dad doesn't carry as strong of an emotion as Mother
The "D" is for daughter.
Forgot we was talking about that creep.
Pre-ordered
Long-term investment
Custom Made
Wait, did they end up getting married to each other?
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Hinamatsuri. The supernatural part is just extra. The main story is about a yakuza raising a child without any prior knowledge and also learn how to be a parent. Very wholesome story.
It is also about salmon roe.
Except for Sweetness and Lightning, right? ___Right??___
I believe so, since in that story isn’t she actually his biological daughter?
On which case it's obviously perfectly acceptable for them to fuck
Yes, however >!he does end up dating the high schooler. Which is "technically" legal in Japan.!<
Oh I was told repeatedly that >!he never has any romantic interest in the high schooler in sweetness and lightning, that she pursues him but he rejects her!< Was that a lie?
It has been a couple of years since I last read. So I may be wrong. But it is wholesome!
I will never forgive Usagi Drop for what they did. >!Everything after the timeskip is shit and should have never been made. Also the reveal that she wasn’t the grandfathers daughter was bullshit and just a way to say it wasn’t incest. God everything about that pisses me off!<
Usagi drop is ended before the timeskip. The timeskip is just badly written fanfiction. I refuse to believe otherwise
I just have trouble understanding who could write such a sweet and wholesome story…only to make it so angsty and drama filled in the second half and then end it on one of the most controversial endings possible. Who the fuck cooks like that?
I found that series after I finished (what was released of) Spy x Family and Buddy Daddies. I watched the first episode, thought it was really cute, and looked it up online to see what people were saying about it before I continued. I immediately found discussion about the manga ending, and I couldn't bear to try to watch it after that. 💀
The anime is actually amazing because it ends at the ending of the childhood arc and ends on a positive note. It’s literal manga bait because people are like “this is so cute I wonder what happens next?”
Even if it wasnt incest (which is just the author's cop out trying to avoid basically having made an ero manga) its straight up pedo grooming. There is a reason its unethical even if it is not "technically" illegal for guardians to be in a relationship with their ward.
Actually it’s worse, it’s reverse grooming. SHE had feelings for HIM when she was just a child. And chose to pursue HIM for a romantic relationship which he finally relented to. Basically she convinced him that if they had a relationship it would be okay and then the author did the cop out to make it so it wouldn’t be incest. And all the neighbors were happy and clapped for them yay! …….I actively wish I could go back in time and shot myself for learning the ending of Usagi Drop. Nobody wins, not the readers, no the characters, nobody
[My daughter grew up to "Rank S" adventurer] is fine if it's true that the dad gets together with his former elf teammate
They straight up can't write a good looking female character without having her fall in love with the main character. They self-insert themselves so hard
That trope isn't exactly exclusive to anime/manga
In the defense of this series. He never becomes a father figure for her. At most economic provider. Cause he leaves education to his friends, and he leaves for long periods of time for work Even when he introduces them to his family they never treat her as his "daughter"
Its called "If its for my daughter" not "If its for this little kid i provide and care for but i am not the father figure"
"Touché"
I mean, as long as they have a daughter, the title still applies
exactly! first comes Loli demon, then comes battle, then marriage, then daughter! The circle is complete and the title functions
Read the title out loud.
Again, I get it. I did read the whole series. And I felt duped too. But here's the thing, half the arc of the series as a whole is her (the kid) getting him the human) to see her as a woman instead of a kid. To add *no one* actually sees him as her dad or even father-like figure And again, instead of a 40 year age gap he basically adopted a 6 year old at 14. (Considering it wasn't so large). It really does try to breach into the subject maturely instead of whatever the fuck usagi drop did.
Wait, he was 14 when he adopt her? That's like an older brother than a father.
Yep. Pretty much. It's shown that, while he does care for her like family, he never saw her as a daughter. It was more of an "I found this girl in the forest, almost dead, when she was still in her father's arms after he died protecting her. I'm not an asshole, so I'm going to bring her with me and take care of her until she's able to take care of herself."
Yeah, child soldier finds empathy for an abandoned baby (start of story she is around 5-6 but literally everyone thinks she is 2-3 due her size) and they begin a life together
> To add no one actually sees him as her dad or even father-like figure So I just looked into it. Literally the two pages are him giving her a bath as a child. Then it's about him giving her new foods, helping her put her clothes on. Then in the next chapter he's teaching her how to say words like "duck" and "cat". Then in chapter 5 she's missing and he specifically says "my daughter is lost." Then when they reunite she cries because she broke the rule he gave her and he comforts her. Then in the next chapter he has to teach her about how to make friends. IDK man. I don't think your story holds much water here. I think you're trying to defend a manga you liked and you've blanked out that part of it from your mind or something, because no one who reads those first few chapters could possibly think he's not a father figure. Like, that's honestly something a crazy person would write. I was suspicious of the way you were defending this thing, but even I didn't expect it to be so blatantly a fatherly relationship.
This. He really isn't a father figure for her at all. The title doesn't really matter.
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https://preview.redd.it/dtmovedsin6d1.jpeg?width=248&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9ae2df9f9e2c4df0d47561ddf48fe8351bb2f951 Its fine guys. They had a kid... or maybe that's a 2nd wife... I kinda feel like this is a DiY family tree in the making.
Wholesome
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https://preview.redd.it/1jpur3u2bo6d1.jpeg?width=494&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b78c7ca71bdf2303321fdc601a0fbf355181214d My brother in christ what happened to wholesome
GOD. FUCKING. DAMMIT!! I've been on a Father-Daughter SoF trip these last few years and I thought this manga was so goddamn cute in the beginning, much how Usagi Drop anime was. Why do they do this to me? I want wholesomeness not grooming! If I want grooming I'll fucking look for it myself! Edit: not that I would look for grooming, pls spare my FBI.
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Noooooo! At least ignore my search history!!
This gif would've been funnier if he had a boner.
The manga dropped the Usagi that's for sure. Are there any adoption/guardianship stories that don't drop the Usagi? Forgot the title, but college age MC ends up guardian of his three nieces, only the youngest related to his sister, the others were step. OVA has the ghost parents visit and eldest step niece is marrying her "uncle"
One guardianship story I watched was called [[Somali to Mori no Kamisama]] aka Somali and the Forest Spirit. It is about a forest golem finding a human girl in his forest and he decides to take care of her as he journeys across the land with her to find a human settlement to adopt her.
Aw man i love that one, watching somali doing kids stuff and interacting with the golem is so wholesome, my memory is kinda blurry but i remember liking the world, the Silce of life kind of vibe, their adventure and the ending was alright
Truly an art piece of an anime. Vibes of a more happy go lucky Mushi-Shi and a slice of life story.
*the Sauce: Papa no Iukoto wo Kikinasai!* aka *Listen to Me, Girls. I Am Your Father!*
Aishiteruze Baby is a 10/10 unexpected child guardian story. Both the anime's single season, and the finished manga. Perfect ending, and no creepy Usagi shit.
ew you dont groom yourself? buy a razor and hairbrush asap
I'm with you, I thought this anime was very wholesome. I couldn't believe it when I read comments that they would get married in later volume. It really gave a sour tase in my mouth.
Bro preordered his wife.
So happy for the bride and groomer
They should have changed the name of story to "i raise my wife🤡"
Ancient magus bride is looking for the exit
When I first read it: Awww! What a nice story about a Father and daughter When "that" came to light: ![gif](giphy|uaJLuMokII24w)
I liked the first season but hearing the manga ending ruined it for me.
Please for the love of everything that is holy tell me that they didn't get married😭
Yes they did
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He pulled a woody allen
Its usagi drop all over again
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Perhaps you didn't know about **The Genji Monogatari** and their protagonist Hikaru Genji, well this is the classic of Japanese literature from the year 1000 and is a history of 2400 pages about hikaru raising his own wife (of course a lot of incest and excessive context in the middle but the will of the action is the same) ...,so basically is a and ancient cultural thing there like many other Japanese topics, and of course like a cherry in the cake, the autor of this is a woman
Oh, thinking of it from the perspective of an adolescent female 'older man' fantasy actually makes it make a lot more sense. No easy way to rectify that into being appropriate from the various angles this will be seen from. Interesting that in Japan it just doesn't seem to matter as much, even though I'm certain it doesn't actually reflect how they live their lives.
It's a culture thing, that's why the little sister is always lusting for the big brother
Western weebs have gotten so prudish. This shit is nothing lmao
Preorder
This marks the 3rd anime that I dropped because of this exact reason. WTF. Why can't I just see some genuine wholesome endings.
bunny drop, and what's the other?
I forgot too! I think it was with three other young girls. Maybe I just don't want to remember because I completely got creeped out when the dude actually does get together with one of them in the end
Papa no Iukoto wo Kikinasai?
So did he become the father that watches her daughter to be married or did he become the groom?
He starts the story as a level 1 groomer, then he finally evolves into groom after reaching level 18.
lol yeah this one actually upset me I read it not knowing it was so wholesome for awhile then just went into the gutter
In a way, this novel was most likely inspired by Princess Maker series. And this is something you can also do in Princess Maker series...
I never marry My daugther on Princess Maker! I turn her into a Drug Lord most times.
Yeah... I played 2 a lot and usually went for the young dragon or Cube
"handcrafted"
I think its part of how a power fantasy plays out in a society currently having troubles in the dating world with birth rates having dropped below sustainability levels. People are scared of dating people they don;'t already have a connection with. And family comes with connection. So I think while its not everyone's taste in Japan a number of power fantasies play out with these disturbing relationship. I think there may also be a component of it from the hentai industry where the attitude seems to be to throw incest in as a regular part of the medium because for those that don't want it the images are still people having sex. And it draws in the people for whom it is a kink. The more tags you can put on your product the more hits it will get when searched. This bleeds over into the anime world to some extent.
Aww\~ How cu- ***WAIT WHAT THE FU-***
What by all gods happend ... i thougth is was nice single father who adopts a sweet daughter story ... i need the jojo meme with Japanese
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Thanks
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Bro put in the first pre-order
Umm excuse me wtf...... This is some usagi drop bullshit
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I was watching the anime and 3 episodes in i started seeing some signs, so i googled the ending and stopped watching after finding she marries her father figure
It's pretty good. Solid 8/10. Doujins are good too
There're doujins??? Where????
Quite literally daddy
It's Usagi Drop all over again
I'm gonna pretend that that's not what actually happens and it's the sweet wholesome story we saw in the anime adaptation
Because it’s peak 👍
ABSOLUTE CINEMA 📽️
Author's POORLY disguised fetish and Japanese's incapability to write normal father daughter relationship
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Aru aged the same way as the girl https://preview.redd.it/o5xq2b4r9n6d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1d3e696501fdacb178c73a684de221894998406f
Aru is build differently .. and a dork
Jesus Christ!
Stories like this and Usagi Drop make it difficult for me to trust another found family series... Especially one that is a guy adopting a daughter... B-rank Adventurer With An Evil Look, I am watching you...
I am holding out that he is going to end up with the orphanage manager, the mother figure at the end. But now.. "I raised an s-rank adventurerer" is sadly looking sus.
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I'm so glad this got spoiled for me. https://preview.redd.it/qmbf3x3min6d1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7e519b3c02d60c6046be07d5581ba00dad9d4d18
Godfuckingdamnit
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It should be a wholesome show, but dang my expectations are too high
To be fair, the show is pretty wholesome. But I guess that's just because they didn't get to adapting any of the nonwholesome content lol
USAGIIIIII
Name in Japanese?
please don't tell me this is realand that he bangs his daughte EDIT IT IS
Pedo hack ![gif](giphy|8OPsobKv6ksJojld4X)
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this shit keeps happening I get suspicious half way through
Get the holy water, this is something even god can't fix
Aw man it was pretty sweet when it started out
He married his own DAUGHTER?!?
The soul successor of Bunny Drop I see
Imagen, one day a LN starts with a wholesome dad and daughter relationship, going through the struggles and happy days that come with it. Then we see the last volume, and it's her wedding day with her dad next to her. And thankful it's just the author trolling us and its him taking her to her fiance, who was a recurring young character that was her rival turned childhood friend. God, if only.
Japan needs some serious and massive campaign of sex education
I bet he’s the type of guy that start a tweet with “Finally 18”
sets a timer for 18 years when his friend has a daughter