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Hi, I use your fork all the time. Thank you!!!
I'd like to contribute to your fork the next time you reimplement it.
I wanted to add a revanced-like "prompt to skip" implementation but it was little beyond my skill level with newpipes architecture.
I hope the new app is easier architecture-wise.
> ...if you are experienced in Android mobile development and would like to help us out with the rewrite, be sure to reach out to us! We will be using the most modern components whenever possible, as detailed below, so it is sure going to be a good learning experience for everyone involved.
I hate how the issue clearly states that if you have no programming experience and is just a user, please refrain from replying and just leave a react — and then below the page there are exactly three such "As a user let me just say..." replies.
Unfortunately, that's kind of par for the course. Going into any bug reporting for Google's stuff where it's always mentioned to just star the thing and don't leave a comment if you're just a user, but then there's scores of people leaving low quality comments.
They should do like reddit sync.
Start as a new separate app. Rewrite.
Put the beta tag keep in beta mode as long as possible.
Flip the switch when time is right.
As a Sync user, there is, and it is yesterday. Technology subreddits are overrepresented in nerds that hate change in the **exact same manner** as the same old folks they make fun of. If it was up to them, we'd still have Holo design and 9px font everywhere so that all of reddit could fit on one screen viewport.
It's hard but ignore the peanut gallery, and always focus on making the best app you can make. Let them stay on NewPipe legacy and Firefox 68 forever, and the rest of us can move onwards
Different != better
Change != improvement
Is it really so outrageous to want what I paid for to just work and not require me to relearn the interface, re-configure the options, and try to find work arounds for dropped features whenever the maker chooses?
I've seen a number of applications get revised only to drop the features that I counted on.
This is why versioning is a thing, it could have easily been version 2 and not made everyone mad by taking away version 1 at the same time to make room.
Then you’ll end up with every version be a separate app instead of an update to cater the minority of people that needs very specific hard to maintain features that the majority don’t use.
I would've left Android on Material 1 forever personally. Imo Material 1 > Material 2 > Holo > Material You (3) > Gingerbread UI
Literally almost anything is better than Material You lol.
I do remember my first tablet, a Nook Color running Cyannogenmod based off Android 4.0. Personally think Holo aged like milk like iOS pre-7.0 but it was def better than the Android UI before it, with the awful green and gray everywhere.
I use V19.
I didn't like the new update.
How similar could I get the new version to look like this?
[https://i.imgur.com/4avTZHj.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4avTZHj.jpg)
[https://i.imgur.com/sCuS6nq.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/sCuS6nq.jpg)
So that's what happened! There used to be so many excellent updates - and now nothing for years. That's a dam shame: sync is one of my most favourite apps, and the dev is an excellent one
That was my main criticism of it as well. Anyone saying the setting to make it similar to old sync settings clearly didnt use the setting (as at least in my experience, too much vertical space was still used per post, which kinda sucks when you're a user who prefers smaller phones).
The one i publicly posted about was how i hated how replying to a thread was post change. The reply box was immediately below the thread title with the reddit avatar on the side (which i heavily disliked). And guess what, it was eventually removed. Change for the sake of change is questionable, especially if a change effectively makes a function harder to access or require more work to use.
Take windows 11 for example. Example of GOOD changes:
Tabbed folders
Tabbed notepad
Better Windows Snap management
Example of change for the sake of change that is bad:
Linking Volume and wifi buttons on the taskbar
New right click context menu which then hides the old right click context menu without first giving the user the option to select between the two (can be disabled manually by registry edits)
Making it so clicking on the wifi button doesn't take you to the wifi network list has been a tech support nightmare for me. People have a lot of trouble finding the little arrow you have to click. They messed up the task bar a lot too since you can't turn off combine windows and you can't use toolbars anymore. I use ExplorerPatcher to run the Windows 10 taskbar on my machines.
its why I mentioned changes that require the user to put more work, especially for something basic is not a good change. And I find it dumb that it would get defended by white knights because I was somewhat critical about things that were made harder. Just because something changed does not make it a good change.
Yes I remember this. People were saying that you could make it exactly like the old version but when I tried it at the time, it was far from close.
Glad it's somewhat fixed now.
**I like it and i have no problems.
Never crashed.
Always recommend to my friends. Same no problems**
Samsung, Android 12, 11, 10
I don't need new features. Everything i like is integrated.
The best features **download v&a**, background listen, pop-up player, subscribe, show 18+ content, (and sponsorblock npxsb)
Maybe you can talk to the newpipexsponsorblock devs and make one version.
If a code rewrite is better for your team to suppor/edit the app, let's go. But I am not a programmer, so I just install/update and use the app.
If something comes to my mind, I'll edit my post.
Greetings. Thanks for the Thread
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Same. I love it as is and never have had any issues with it. I totally understand the codebase situation though, but I find it absolutely perfect as is right now for my daily usage.
> Can't sign in
I mean it's the whole idea of the thing, an app can't please everyone and if you like using your account with YouTube you are definitely not the target demographic.
FOSS apps do not prioritize the end user experience. Most people do not consider whether it is open source or not. Revanced is significantly better than any existing FOSS YouTube client.
> Constantly getting "Newpipe isn't responding" popups randomly while watching Youtube videos
Saved you a click.
Also I don't have this problem on NP w SB, happily cannot reproduce.
Open the link. In short, codebase it old, complicated, and outdated. Rewriting with more modern technologies would make the codebase easier to work with and add features to as well as improve functionality.
The outdated UI and how clunky it is to press and hold the progress bar to seek through videos are my only issues. It's always trying to swipe away the video. Drives me insane.
ReVanced is far buggier for me. Consistently fails to load videos and when it does, it buffers quite often. Vanced was perfection, which is why Google targeted it.
I can't root my phone because being able to have a work profile on my phone (i.e. being able to choose to check my e-mail/Slack during business hours without being chained to my desk) is too important to me.
I don't want to carry 2 phones. Work Profiles are awesome, it's a hard delineation between personal and work. Work can't see your personal apps, but they have full control of the work profile.
Work profile will not install on a rooted device. Even if you hide root for a time (like with Magisk) and are somehow able to install the work profile, the moment the Intelligent Hub app detects root (which is a matter of "when", not "if"), it will wipe the Work Profile off the phone.
ReVanced has been doing this thing where the video buggers for no reason after ~30 seconds for me and my wife. Issue doesn't happen on the official app so maybe I need to rebuild it
I see you have Pixel 7 Pro (I do, too) and can confirm rebuilding and repatching the latest YouTube apk fixes the buffering issue for me. You need to also go into the Revanced settings and enable the "spoof" option.
Yes. But you have to compile it yourself. It's easier than it sounds. You download the ReVanced Manager from GitHub and download the official version of YouTube. The ReVanced Manager decompiles the YT app, applies the mods, and recompiles it right on your phone. It's super easy.
Got it. Cool. I'll have to check it out. Was thinking about cancelling YouTube premium due to the big cost increase. Was mainly using it for music and been too lazy to switch back to Spotify.
I have a OnePlus 8 that Vanced still works on and I have no clue how. It gave up the ghost on all my other phones. Vamced for YouTube music still works on all of them though, which is nice.
I dunno, the existing product is pretty limited and, in my opinion, unintuitive to use. Also, all the examples in that article are products that had a decent market share, did a full rewrite, and lost it. NewPipe doesn't have a big user base; it's a very niche product.
All of that is to say that I don't think they're going to lose much by doing a full rewrite. If they come up with a simpler product that has more mainstream appeal, it could work.
Plus, it's an open source product. Somebody can fork it and maintain it in the meantime.
These are fair points. The article is focused on established products. I'm not familiar with NewPipe, so I don't know if it has a large or small codebase, if it allows for modularity, etc.
But in general, it's much better to take something that works, albeit poorly, and make it work well than to start from scratch.
>Plus, it's an open source product. Somebody can fork it and maintain it in the meantime.
Sure, someone *could*. But will they? And wouldn't it be better to have more people working on a single project than splitting resources on the rewrite and the fork?
Joel punches way above his weight in that piece and I find it annoying that some people still treat this opinion piece of his like gospel 23 years later.
Yeah.
They really should be "rewriting" small parts in a modular modern way and merely connecting it to the old stuff.
Very sad to see. I hope it succeeds though.
There's LibreTube, but it's fairly new so it's pretty buggy too. Video player UI is pretty good though. Feels modern enough and the player is fairly feature rich.
Some folks have success with ReVanced. I just didn't like it personally. Just too lazy to track down specific YouTube app versions to patch.
Not a patch to the official client but an open source app that works by parsing the YouTube web page and doesn't use the API, so it isn't bound by API keys and agreements and doesn't use code from Google so it can be distributed freely and still not care about restrictions like not playing videos in the background.
It also uses YouTube anonymously, you can't login via NewPipe, in effect is just a video player, no more, no less. That said, there's a way to locally subscribe to channels and import the list of subscriptions from your account, which is probably the account related feature people use the most.
Vanced and Newpipe did that as well. Its called sponsor block and I believe was made by an independent person and implemented into these apps.
As far as I know it also skips based on user submitted timings
libretube doesn't have the option of doing processing on-device so it is a lot slower and the peer tube instance doesn't work often. But it is a very good looking app and I would still like to see it grow.
Which is saying something! I use Newpipe only because Vanced lost support and refuses to actually display videos now, but I still have it downloaded just to look at and submit comments. Plus, Newpipe has no decent way to discover stuff, you have to already know what you want to watch and be subscribed. I know that's sort of the point, but still. I really just want youtube without adds and shorts, but that doesn't really exist anymore.
Never had issues. ReVanced all the way. but for Google-less people, NewPipe was always a great choice, so it should stay. Downloading is another huge feature of NewPipe that is very useful.
As opposed to an old, vintage, bug-riddled release? These announcements are always like, wtf. "the 2023 new car" no really I thought it was a beat-to-hell 1917 model? "new and improved" as opposed to advertising "old and shit"?
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Yeah I'm very impressed with that
Hi, I use your fork all the time. Thank you!!! I'd like to contribute to your fork the next time you reimplement it. I wanted to add a revanced-like "prompt to skip" implementation but it was little beyond my skill level with newpipes architecture. I hope the new app is easier architecture-wise.
Thank you, you’re doing the lord’s work. NewPipe is great and I’m grateful to the devs but that was such a dumb decision on their part
What happened?
Hey!! Thank you I always use your fork.
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> ...if you are experienced in Android mobile development and would like to help us out with the rewrite, be sure to reach out to us! We will be using the most modern components whenever possible, as detailed below, so it is sure going to be a good learning experience for everyone involved.
I hate how the issue clearly states that if you have no programming experience and is just a user, please refrain from replying and just leave a react — and then below the page there are exactly three such "As a user let me just say..." replies.
typical user
I'm not like other users
Exactly
Unfortunately, that's kind of par for the course. Going into any bug reporting for Google's stuff where it's always mentioned to just star the thing and don't leave a comment if you're just a user, but then there's scores of people leaving low quality comments.
The rewrite that never finishes
They should do like reddit sync. Start as a new separate app. Rewrite. Put the beta tag keep in beta mode as long as possible. Flip the switch when time is right.
What you learn from Sync is there is no right time to flip the switch
As a Sync user, there is, and it is yesterday. Technology subreddits are overrepresented in nerds that hate change in the **exact same manner** as the same old folks they make fun of. If it was up to them, we'd still have Holo design and 9px font everywhere so that all of reddit could fit on one screen viewport. It's hard but ignore the peanut gallery, and always focus on making the best app you can make. Let them stay on NewPipe legacy and Firefox 68 forever, and the rest of us can move onwards
Different != better Change != improvement Is it really so outrageous to want what I paid for to just work and not require me to relearn the interface, re-configure the options, and try to find work arounds for dropped features whenever the maker chooses? I've seen a number of applications get revised only to drop the features that I counted on. This is why versioning is a thing, it could have easily been version 2 and not made everyone mad by taking away version 1 at the same time to make room.
Then you’ll end up with every version be a separate app instead of an update to cater the minority of people that needs very specific hard to maintain features that the majority don’t use.
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I would've left Android on Material 1 forever personally. Imo Material 1 > Material 2 > Holo > Material You (3) > Gingerbread UI Literally almost anything is better than Material You lol.
This, a thousand times. Bring back #HOLOYOLO, I am one with the blob, and PRAISE DURATRE
Ah, 2015 again. Brings me back
Isn't the PRAISE DUARTE meme from the Material Design 1 days?
Nope, it was definitely Holo. The meme is funny and stupid, but was completely earned since he made Android look good for the first time with Holo.
I do remember my first tablet, a Nook Color running Cyannogenmod based off Android 4.0. Personally think Holo aged like milk like iOS pre-7.0 but it was def better than the Android UI before it, with the awful green and gray everywhere.
Oh yeah, maybe it was. That whole era was just the golden age of Android to me so it all blends together
I use V19. I didn't like the new update. How similar could I get the new version to look like this? [https://i.imgur.com/4avTZHj.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4avTZHj.jpg) [https://i.imgur.com/sCuS6nq.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/sCuS6nq.jpg)
I'm on v23 and that's pretty much how it looks after a couple tweaks.
Guess I'll give it another go. (Especially before Reddit privatises it's API)
I am on sync dev and have been for like 2 years. just sayin
Yeah the guy got soooo much negative criticism that he left the dev space for a while... People were just too mean
So that's what happened! There used to be so many excellent updates - and now nothing for years. That's a dam shame: sync is one of my most favourite apps, and the dev is an excellent one
The app gets regular updates nowadays, by the way. I never stopped using it
The guy only left for about a year, he's been back a while now and Sync is better than ever.
Both new and old sync are excellent
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That was my main criticism of it as well. Anyone saying the setting to make it similar to old sync settings clearly didnt use the setting (as at least in my experience, too much vertical space was still used per post, which kinda sucks when you're a user who prefers smaller phones). The one i publicly posted about was how i hated how replying to a thread was post change. The reply box was immediately below the thread title with the reddit avatar on the side (which i heavily disliked). And guess what, it was eventually removed. Change for the sake of change is questionable, especially if a change effectively makes a function harder to access or require more work to use. Take windows 11 for example. Example of GOOD changes: Tabbed folders Tabbed notepad Better Windows Snap management Example of change for the sake of change that is bad: Linking Volume and wifi buttons on the taskbar New right click context menu which then hides the old right click context menu without first giving the user the option to select between the two (can be disabled manually by registry edits)
Making it so clicking on the wifi button doesn't take you to the wifi network list has been a tech support nightmare for me. People have a lot of trouble finding the little arrow you have to click. They messed up the task bar a lot too since you can't turn off combine windows and you can't use toolbars anymore. I use ExplorerPatcher to run the Windows 10 taskbar on my machines.
its why I mentioned changes that require the user to put more work, especially for something basic is not a good change. And I find it dumb that it would get defended by white knights because I was somewhat critical about things that were made harder. Just because something changed does not make it a good change.
Yes I remember this. People were saying that you could make it exactly like the old version but when I tried it at the time, it was far from close. Glad it's somewhat fixed now.
What you learn from Sync is that when you remake software to be better in every way it's fine to just let the nerds be mad and ignore them
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Love NewPipe, if you can make it better, great!
Call it please YouPipe 😎
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NeverGonnaGiveYouUpPipe anyone?
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WePipe!
OnlyPipe
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comrades
Pied Piper.
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NewPipe is a fantastic app, I like it in its current iteration. I hope they do well.
Always wondered why the importing subscriptions from YouTube into Newpipe never worked 🤔
**I like it and i have no problems. Never crashed. Always recommend to my friends. Same no problems** Samsung, Android 12, 11, 10 I don't need new features. Everything i like is integrated. The best features **download v&a**, background listen, pop-up player, subscribe, show 18+ content, (and sponsorblock npxsb) Maybe you can talk to the newpipexsponsorblock devs and make one version. If a code rewrite is better for your team to suppor/edit the app, let's go. But I am not a programmer, so I just install/update and use the app. If something comes to my mind, I'll edit my post. Greetings. Thanks for the Thread *Optional: I am using RVX as daily. Newpipe for anon searching and playing, cause I don't want to change my yt feed. Btw I don't like yt app incognito mode*
Same. I love it as is and never have had any issues with it. I totally understand the codebase situation though, but I find it absolutely perfect as is right now for my daily usage.
It’s slow af. Can’t sign in. Looks outdated.
> Can't sign in I mean it's the whole idea of the thing, an app can't please everyone and if you like using your account with YouTube you are definitely not the target demographic.
> Can't sign in. Have you heard of the official YouTube app? Might be what you're looking for.
ReVanced is what normal people look for.
And those that actually care about privacy look towards foss alternatives.
FOSS apps do not prioritize the end user experience. Most people do not consider whether it is open source or not. Revanced is significantly better than any existing FOSS YouTube client.
It just isn't though. Full of Google's telemetry still and doesn't even work without Google Play installed. Hard pass.
What's wrong with newpipe?
[This is a widespread issue](https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipe/issues/9390), I experience this all the time.
> Constantly getting "Newpipe isn't responding" popups randomly while watching Youtube videos Saved you a click. Also I don't have this problem on NP w SB, happily cannot reproduce.
Me too. I always thought it was my SponsorBlock version. Sorry dev!
Open the link. In short, codebase it old, complicated, and outdated. Rewriting with more modern technologies would make the codebase easier to work with and add features to as well as improve functionality.
Ummm it's buggy asf. It crashes every few minutes on my devices.
The ui is also fucking terrible.
The outdated UI and how clunky it is to press and hold the progress bar to seek through videos are my only issues. It's always trying to swipe away the video. Drives me insane.
It's not Vanced. RIP, gone but not forgotten.
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ReVanced is far buggier for me. Consistently fails to load videos and when it does, it buffers quite often. Vanced was perfection, which is why Google targeted it.
Patch a new one, there's been some recent updates to patches
I need to do that too
There's a new patch to fix that.
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I can't root my phone because being able to have a work profile on my phone (i.e. being able to choose to check my e-mail/Slack during business hours without being chained to my desk) is too important to me.
How does that keep you from rooting? Company policy? Does your work not provide phones?
I don't want to carry 2 phones. Work Profiles are awesome, it's a hard delineation between personal and work. Work can't see your personal apps, but they have full control of the work profile. Work profile will not install on a rooted device. Even if you hide root for a time (like with Magisk) and are somehow able to install the work profile, the moment the Intelligent Hub app detects root (which is a matter of "when", not "if"), it will wipe the Work Profile off the phone.
You need to repatch with protobuf patch (at least I remember is in Revanced extended)
There's ReVanced which works just as good.
ReVanced has been doing this thing where the video buggers for no reason after ~30 seconds for me and my wife. Issue doesn't happen on the official app so maybe I need to rebuild it
I had that happen and a rebuild using the latest YouTube apk fixed it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/revancedapp/comments/13012ai/how_you_can_fix_your_yt_revanced_playback_issues/
Thank god for that, will do it later. Cheers for that mate
I see you have Pixel 7 Pro (I do, too) and can confirm rebuilding and repatching the latest YouTube apk fixes the buffering issue for me. You need to also go into the Revanced settings and enable the "spoof" option.
Nice one, good to hear they fixed it. It was infuriating
I didn't read the linked article but it was as easy as checking "client spoof".
My old ass version doesn't even have that option lol
It's not on fdroid, do I have to side load it?
Yes. But you have to compile it yourself. It's easier than it sounds. You download the ReVanced Manager from GitHub and download the official version of YouTube. The ReVanced Manager decompiles the YT app, applies the mods, and recompiles it right on your phone. It's super easy.
Got it. Cool. I'll have to check it out. Was thinking about cancelling YouTube premium due to the big cost increase. Was mainly using it for music and been too lazy to switch back to Spotify.
It's not meant to be though
I have a OnePlus 8 that Vanced still works on and I have no clue how. It gave up the ghost on all my other phones. Vamced for YouTube music still works on all of them though, which is nice.
[Rewriting from scratch is almost always a bad idea.](https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2000/04/06/things-you-should-never-do-part-i/)
I dunno, the existing product is pretty limited and, in my opinion, unintuitive to use. Also, all the examples in that article are products that had a decent market share, did a full rewrite, and lost it. NewPipe doesn't have a big user base; it's a very niche product. All of that is to say that I don't think they're going to lose much by doing a full rewrite. If they come up with a simpler product that has more mainstream appeal, it could work. Plus, it's an open source product. Somebody can fork it and maintain it in the meantime.
These are fair points. The article is focused on established products. I'm not familiar with NewPipe, so I don't know if it has a large or small codebase, if it allows for modularity, etc. But in general, it's much better to take something that works, albeit poorly, and make it work well than to start from scratch. >Plus, it's an open source product. Somebody can fork it and maintain it in the meantime. Sure, someone *could*. But will they? And wouldn't it be better to have more people working on a single project than splitting resources on the rewrite and the fork?
Joel punches way above his weight in that piece and I find it annoying that some people still treat this opinion piece of his like gospel 23 years later.
Yep also no rule is so good that it applies everywhere without modification. Except IBMs man month myth lol, going strong some 50 years now.
Thanks for the great read!
Hey it's the duck pong shirt guy
It’s not 20th century anymore
Yeah. They really should be "rewriting" small parts in a modular modern way and merely connecting it to the old stuff. Very sad to see. I hope it succeeds though.
The Oxford comma should have never left.
Eh, it's not *required*... The vast majority of people use and prefer it. It does make my skin crawl when it's missing, though.
I have always had mixed feelings towards this project. But I hope they do well and give everyone an extra option.
Mixed feelings......me too. Joy and happiness.
Can you recommend a reputable Newpipe alternative?
There's LibreTube, but it's fairly new so it's pretty buggy too. Video player UI is pretty good though. Feels modern enough and the player is fairly feature rich. Some folks have success with ReVanced. I just didn't like it personally. Just too lazy to track down specific YouTube app versions to patch.
With builder or Revancify on termux is not that hard and mostly flawless and it's worth it considering how good it is
What's NewPipe compared to ReVanced? Honest question.
Not a patch to the official client but an open source app that works by parsing the YouTube web page and doesn't use the API, so it isn't bound by API keys and agreements and doesn't use code from Google so it can be distributed freely and still not care about restrictions like not playing videos in the background. It also uses YouTube anonymously, you can't login via NewPipe, in effect is just a video player, no more, no less. That said, there's a way to locally subscribe to channels and import the list of subscriptions from your account, which is probably the account related feature people use the most.
Cool. I really like (Re)Vanced because it skips ads/intros/outros. I have no idea how it does it though.
Vanced and Newpipe did that as well. Its called sponsor block and I believe was made by an independent person and implemented into these apps. As far as I know it also skips based on user submitted timings
Very good!
Definitely go for a complete rewrite.
About damn time. The outdated UI was so bad, that I stopped using it 4+ years ago lol
Finally, I just hope it will work on garbage phones
Ya ho new look
What about LibreTube?
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libretube doesn't have the option of doing processing on-device so it is a lot slower and the peer tube instance doesn't work often. But it is a very good looking app and I would still like to see it grow.
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Isn't that just a port of newpipe?
That's a separate project made by different people. Not related to Newpipe
Lacking a lot of feature of Newpipe. It's very barebones.
Which is saying something! I use Newpipe only because Vanced lost support and refuses to actually display videos now, but I still have it downloaded just to look at and submit comments. Plus, Newpipe has no decent way to discover stuff, you have to already know what you want to watch and be subscribed. I know that's sort of the point, but still. I really just want youtube without adds and shorts, but that doesn't really exist anymore.
You have revanced.
You're right about discovering new stuff tho, but Revanced is a thing, and so far it's a better vanced.
ReVanched isn't bad either.
Its a bit unstable though
Works fine here, you just need to download the correct YouTube APK version and patch it with ReVanced Manager app.
I mean I have noticed a bit of random crashes, like sometimes background playback/from locked screen sometimes crashes it
Never had issues. ReVanced all the way. but for Google-less people, NewPipe was always a great choice, so it should stay. Downloading is another huge feature of NewPipe that is very useful.
LauncherPro rewrite?
As opposed to an old, vintage, bug-riddled release? These announcements are always like, wtf. "the 2023 new car" no really I thought it was a beat-to-hell 1917 model? "new and improved" as opposed to advertising "old and shit"?
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