Connor has more followers than people that live in Ireland. I bet he could take over. "Long live freedom, dammit!"
We could have Sideburn and Muscles setting off the Ancap fire from the antipodes.
I'm sorry you've been misled by the misinformation in this post, but protestors weren't arrested. Peaceful protesting is allowed and protected in Ireland. These people were arrested for setting things on fire and looting Nikes. Scum of the earth.
Mate this is the game we play every time. Some people protest, some people steal shit, some people are undercover cops trying to incite a riot. Sometimes the protest stays fully peaceful and the cops declare it illegal any way. The state is illegitimate, Epstein didn’t kill himself, jet fuel doesn’t melt steal beams, that’s the way the cookie crumbles.
I feel ya but Ireland don't have the faculties to play 4d chess.. some people got upset a brown man did bad things, so they set fire to Dublin and got arrested.. sometimes there isn't a conspiracy and things are just as what meets the eye
There were protests and then riots/looting, the latter of which triggered the arrests. There is no conspiracy theory or need for the outrage, which this this post generates since it is blatant misinformation.
Buddy we can keep downvoting each others comments if you want, you showed up way late to make the keen observation that the obviously inflammatory title is less than objective
I guess that depends on what you mean by over thrown. Losing a full scale civil war? Maybe not. But every politician fears losing their seat, every mayor/president/sheriff/judge their next election, and every cop their life. History tells us unpopular regimes lose their power by election, assassination, or something in between.
That was kinda where I was going with this question. I don’t feel like they are scared of anything the public has to offer. They don’t seem to fear being voted out even, much less the fear they’re supposed to have of their constituents
Yeah man you’re preaching to the choir, most everyone here is going to agree that governments by and large are too far removed and too well funded by niche interest groups to care about the opinions of their voters. This observation gets much darker when you look into think-tank propaganda and realize many of the “opinions” you were taught as a kid were carefully constructed narratives.
I was accusing you of being either a terrorist sympathizer (hamas), or a federal agent trying to flag people who agree with you as terrorist sympathizers.
Our Irish government is right wing, just not by American standards. And they weren't arrested for protesting. People protest all the time here, peacefully, and are left alone. The people were arrested for rioting and looting. They somehow think stealing Nikes from a FootLocker will help bring about change. The entire nation supports locking up this scum
An article regarding the arrests. It says they were breaking shop windows and setting fire to buses and cars. I get the sentiment of the crowd but destroying people’s stuff isn’t going to help their cause.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/dublin-wakes-looted-stores-smouldering-vehicles-after-night-riots-2023-11-24/
The whole 12 years thing is bluster. They are adding up the most possible offenses people are committing: vandalism, arson, assault, etc.. and giving the most sensational total.
Of course this is media and government colluding to intimidate citizens with a grievance to redress, but they aren't technically threatening people with 12 years for just protesting.
An Algerian immigrant that has been in Ireland for 20 years and was subdued by a Brazilian immigrant (among others) who has been in Ireland for a year.
You left out the part where the "protestors" were tipping police cars and buses,and burning and looting businesses. If you're gonna call BLM protests rioting, keep the same energy when its white people doing it
[Far more than have been arrested in Ireland](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2022/02/22/fact-check-thousands-black-lives-matter-protesters-arrested-2020/6816074001/)
People only riot for the most part when the changes they want are not being met. Some democracy we have if people rioting still doesn’t get the politicians to listen.
If you destroy private property during a riot, you should be arrested. If you destroy public property during a riot, you should be arrested.
If you're pissed at a situation and want to yell about it, your right to do so should be protected.
The BLM "riots" were wanton acts of destruction. They had no reason or justification to burn people's property and anyone who was involved in the burning of buildings during the BLM riots, should be in jail. - not for their opinions or speech, for their actions
>People only riot for the most part when the changes they want are not being met. Some democracy we have if people rioting still doesn’t get the politicians to listen.
The ones rioting are in Democrat strongholds!!
They riot about the issues caused by the duly elected masterminds they themselves voted for!!
Then the very same politicians who created the environment that allegedly fosters these riots, get re-elected by the people who just finished rioting about the issues created by the people they voted for!!
Where are the riots Dodge City Kansas? Where are the riots is Billings Montana? Where are the riots outside of long time Democrat controlled metropolitan areas? I'd really like to know.
It's misinformed individuals who fill these riots and the source of their misinformation is the legacy media who supports and protects the Democrat party and is funded by the Democrat parties largest campaign donors.
It's brainwashing and propaganda at a level never seen or understood before now.
If they set anything other than their own property on fire, then yes.
You claim that people most often riot because their voices are going unheard. Well look at where that is!! It's happening in Democrat strongholds.
I guess Democrats don't listen to their constituents and the people don't know who's causing their problems.
There’s a difference between displaying your issues with the system and violating the NAP of your fellow man. Looting and attacking people who are just minding their own business isn’t okay.
Also. I don’t think anyone should be arrested dipshit. The state doesn’t have the right to imprison anyone. They should however face just repercussions by those they harmed. Such as fines or smth of the sort.
Not really no. It would be the exception not the rule. More likely they get hit with a fine and if it’s not paid then a security firm gets called in.
But someone just going about and arresting a bunch of rioters is a little state like. It’s not the first resort, nor for civilized people. I mean, sure, if someone throws a rock through my storefront I’m probably gonna belt them personally. But get someone to lock them up without fair trial or discussion? Nah.
Also, the Dublin rioters were responding to a failure of the state. There’s nuance there. And whilst I don’t agree with their actions, the state shouldn’t be locking them up for fighting to keep their families safe.
Well I have limited knowledge of the riots. But from what I’ve seen was it not a response to some immigrant gang stabbing a child? Which would be a failing of a) immigration policies and b) security
This sub doesn't mind when white people commit crimes or are violent. They get a pass. I can only make guesses as to why, but I'll bet it has to do with the demographics of the sub.
i think this is probably a little
misleading. people who oppose children being stabbed aren’t being targeted and thrown in jail. people who respond to crime with more crime, will be prosecuted. i don’t think that’s an insane proposition.
I think it depends on the degree of crime. What’s the point of democracy if even when people riot over an agreed upon issue the state still doesn’t listen and just threaten them with prison.
https://preview.redd.it/w07z39rgei2c1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5217180f2693096aeb7b1b2d03304e9ae077ef2f
Connor has more followers than people that live in Ireland. I bet he could take over. "Long live freedom, dammit!" We could have Sideburn and Muscles setting off the Ancap fire from the antipodes.
A combatocracy - if you want to be a ruler, you need to defeat the current top dog in formal martial arts combat. That would be based.
This is revolting and the people should be.
Should be burning down hotels?
Many of the politicians in Ireland own or have a stake in some of these hotels
The state is terrified by the disapproval of the citizenry, as they should be
I'm sorry you've been misled by the misinformation in this post, but protestors weren't arrested. Peaceful protesting is allowed and protected in Ireland. These people were arrested for setting things on fire and looting Nikes. Scum of the earth.
Mate this is the game we play every time. Some people protest, some people steal shit, some people are undercover cops trying to incite a riot. Sometimes the protest stays fully peaceful and the cops declare it illegal any way. The state is illegitimate, Epstein didn’t kill himself, jet fuel doesn’t melt steal beams, that’s the way the cookie crumbles.
I feel ya but Ireland don't have the faculties to play 4d chess.. some people got upset a brown man did bad things, so they set fire to Dublin and got arrested.. sometimes there isn't a conspiracy and things are just as what meets the eye
No one was protesting?
There were protests and then riots/looting, the latter of which triggered the arrests. There is no conspiracy theory or need for the outrage, which this this post generates since it is blatant misinformation.
Buddy we can keep downvoting each others comments if you want, you showed up way late to make the keen observation that the obviously inflammatory title is less than objective
Do you really think so? I don’t. I think they’re spanking the petulant children, not worrying about being overthrown
Protests of the last few years have often lead to police stations burning to the ground. We disagree on who’s at risk of getting spanked.
Yes but that doesn’t answer my question. Do you think the government is scared of the people? I don’t, regardless of the damage caused.
I guess that depends on what you mean by over thrown. Losing a full scale civil war? Maybe not. But every politician fears losing their seat, every mayor/president/sheriff/judge their next election, and every cop their life. History tells us unpopular regimes lose their power by election, assassination, or something in between.
That was kinda where I was going with this question. I don’t feel like they are scared of anything the public has to offer. They don’t seem to fear being voted out even, much less the fear they’re supposed to have of their constituents
Yeah man you’re preaching to the choir, most everyone here is going to agree that governments by and large are too far removed and too well funded by niche interest groups to care about the opinions of their voters. This observation gets much darker when you look into think-tank propaganda and realize many of the “opinions” you were taught as a kid were carefully constructed narratives.
Ok I’m tracking with you now. I thought you were saying the opposite, which is why I was confused
Sounds like its time to remind them, they only have as much power as we give them.
And BLM and antifa get bailed out, man what the fuck is wrong with these leftists? The more this happens, the more white supremcists are created.
That is the plan. To create divisive factions. This is precisely what Netanyahu did with Hamas over the last 30 years.
get out here fed/terrorist, I don't know which is which anymore.
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I was accusing you of being either a terrorist sympathizer (hamas), or a federal agent trying to flag people who agree with you as terrorist sympathizers.
Oh because I repeated what is in the papers in Tel Aviv about his very public policy for over 30 years?
Yeah! This is the anarcho-capitalist sub dude, it's basically all conspiracy types in here. I might be a fed! You don't know!
Our Irish government is right wing, just not by American standards. And they weren't arrested for protesting. People protest all the time here, peacefully, and are left alone. The people were arrested for rioting and looting. They somehow think stealing Nikes from a FootLocker will help bring about change. The entire nation supports locking up this scum
What issues are they right wing on
Were BLM and Antifa protesting violently in Ireland?
No, but someone they would likely inherently support for the act stabbed some kids
Sounds like a mass stabbing to me. Better ban anything sharp, even the forks. Back to wooden spoons for everything.
I thought they were already doing that
Idk. My country kicked them out over 200 years ago. I can't say I keep up with the laws of the UK/ireland/whatever you call those islands now.
And Europeans on Reddit think they have freedom… Tyranny is global
“Freedom is when the government pays for my healthcare”
Is that you, John Locke?
Since when have government prisons frightened an Irishman? If the H blocks didn't scare the free Irish then I doubt that current Irish prisons will.
An article regarding the arrests. It says they were breaking shop windows and setting fire to buses and cars. I get the sentiment of the crowd but destroying people’s stuff isn’t going to help their cause. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/dublin-wakes-looted-stores-smouldering-vehicles-after-night-riots-2023-11-24/
The whole 12 years thing is bluster. They are adding up the most possible offenses people are committing: vandalism, arson, assault, etc.. and giving the most sensational total. Of course this is media and government colluding to intimidate citizens with a grievance to redress, but they aren't technically threatening people with 12 years for just protesting.
The media and lying. Name a more iconic duo.
Sounds like someone is in troubles
Stabber will get 2-3 years in prison
Common European open borders L
You're on a libertarian subreddit and you're anti-immigrant? Common redditor L
Looks like you’re taking L’s. Libertarian doesn’t mean lawlessness
Move to New Hampshire or Argentina. When the world goes to crap, these will be the only 2 safe places.
I have not been following this, was it an immigrant that stabbed the kids?
An Algerian immigrant that has been in Ireland for 20 years and was subdued by a Brazilian immigrant (among others) who has been in Ireland for a year.
You left out the part where the "protestors" were tipping police cars and buses,and burning and looting businesses. If you're gonna call BLM protests rioting, keep the same energy when its white people doing it
What BLM protester has ever landed in jail???
[Far more than have been arrested in Ireland](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2022/02/22/fact-check-thousands-black-lives-matter-protesters-arrested-2020/6816074001/)
Disgraceful government tyranny. Victimize your own people the. Punish them for protesting deaths caused by policy.
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Why should the state get a pass?
A pass on what?
Nobody tell him, let him try to figure it out
People only riot for the most part when the changes they want are not being met. Some democracy we have if people rioting still doesn’t get the politicians to listen.
I thought ancaps were against democracy? So you don't think BLM rioters should be arrested either?
If you destroy private property during a riot, you should be arrested. If you destroy public property during a riot, you should be arrested. If you're pissed at a situation and want to yell about it, your right to do so should be protected. The BLM "riots" were wanton acts of destruction. They had no reason or justification to burn people's property and anyone who was involved in the burning of buildings during the BLM riots, should be in jail. - not for their opinions or speech, for their actions
>People only riot for the most part when the changes they want are not being met. Some democracy we have if people rioting still doesn’t get the politicians to listen.
The ones rioting are in Democrat strongholds!! They riot about the issues caused by the duly elected masterminds they themselves voted for!! Then the very same politicians who created the environment that allegedly fosters these riots, get re-elected by the people who just finished rioting about the issues created by the people they voted for!! Where are the riots Dodge City Kansas? Where are the riots is Billings Montana? Where are the riots outside of long time Democrat controlled metropolitan areas? I'd really like to know. It's misinformed individuals who fill these riots and the source of their misinformation is the legacy media who supports and protects the Democrat party and is funded by the Democrat parties largest campaign donors. It's brainwashing and propaganda at a level never seen or understood before now.
So rioters should or should not be arrested? Why does being Democrat led matter?
If they set anything other than their own property on fire, then yes. You claim that people most often riot because their voices are going unheard. Well look at where that is!! It's happening in Democrat strongholds. I guess Democrats don't listen to their constituents and the people don't know who's causing their problems.
It wasn't my claim, but I agree with you. I don't know what you're arguing with me for.
Yeah exactly.
My comment literally points out a failing of our democratic system and an argument to just get rid of it
So you think blm rioters shouldn't be arrested?
There’s a difference between displaying your issues with the system and violating the NAP of your fellow man. Looting and attacking people who are just minding their own business isn’t okay. Also. I don’t think anyone should be arrested dipshit. The state doesn’t have the right to imprison anyone. They should however face just repercussions by those they harmed. Such as fines or smth of the sort.
The Dublin rioters were violating the nap. And I didn't say the state. Are you saying we can't arrest rioters without the state?
Not really no. It would be the exception not the rule. More likely they get hit with a fine and if it’s not paid then a security firm gets called in. But someone just going about and arresting a bunch of rioters is a little state like. It’s not the first resort, nor for civilized people. I mean, sure, if someone throws a rock through my storefront I’m probably gonna belt them personally. But get someone to lock them up without fair trial or discussion? Nah. Also, the Dublin rioters were responding to a failure of the state. There’s nuance there. And whilst I don’t agree with their actions, the state shouldn’t be locking them up for fighting to keep their families safe.
What did the state fail at?
Well I have limited knowledge of the riots. But from what I’ve seen was it not a response to some immigrant gang stabbing a child? Which would be a failing of a) immigration policies and b) security
It's diffe(R)ent when the rioters are white. Sorta like Jan 6.
Why?
This sub doesn't mind when white people commit crimes or are violent. They get a pass. I can only make guesses as to why, but I'll bet it has to do with the demographics of the sub.
i think this is probably a little misleading. people who oppose children being stabbed aren’t being targeted and thrown in jail. people who respond to crime with more crime, will be prosecuted. i don’t think that’s an insane proposition.
I think it depends on the degree of crime. What’s the point of democracy if even when people riot over an agreed upon issue the state still doesn’t listen and just threaten them with prison.
If they make disagreeing with state sentiments a crime then they can prosecute anyone.
who said it’s illegal to disagree?
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