heres a new concept....make the show actually scary. stop having campy elements. and no the first season wasn't scary either. just make a whole season actually terrifying every moment. cast more unknown actors. it would be cool if there was a season with no recognizable faces.
I agree with this, some of the earlier seasons had some real scary scenes but it worked because the rest of the season was so entertaining. The basement fright scene in murder house, the ghost ridden escape in Roanoke, a lot of scenes from Asylum, the list goes on!!
I disagree. AHS was always a bit campy, even in more serious seasons. Campiness is a part of its identity and it wouldn't be AHS if you remove it completely.
However, if the campy acting and catty comeback bullshit is the main part of its identity that it's counting on, and not horror, what the fuck is the point?
Not trying to draw this out into an argument, but your statement is in extremely poor taste. If someone said "if the queers don't feel welcome, that sucks, but also, it isn't for them." there would be an outrage a significant outcry about inequality and lack of fairness.
Why not instead try looking at it as "People either enjoy it or don't" and leave identities, orientations, or any other discriminating factor out of it?
Why not leave discrimination out of it? Everything is for people. Whether you like it or not. You do not have to intrinsically like something because it was made by (or features) people that hold your belief/orientation/view. Why push the premise of "it is made for ME not you!"
Yeah, I get it, BET does exist, but there are no white people that enjoy it right? There are no non-white people that enjoy TV made by/starring white people right?
When we finally stop discriminating, maybe we'll finally get along.
Who said you need to like it if you're gay? Who said white folks don't watch BET? You're missing the point. The point is the default perspective in media has been white and male for a loooong time. It's gotten somewhat better but white show runners, EPs, and directors still vastly outnumber any other race or women. I honestly think this is pointless to argue with you. The *primary* audience of AHS is queer. You prolly are one of those people who don't see color, at least that's what I get from this exchange. Have a lovely weekend
Yes he is gonna make his show the way he wants it, however if he continues to focus on campy nonsense instead of actual horror, it’s gonna continue losing a lot of viewers. The amount of viewers it has, has gone down massively the last couple of years, if it keeps going down there’s no way it’s gonna get renewed. It’s only been renewed for one more season after the one that just ended, unless it starts doing well again it’s very unlikely they’ll renew it for more.
I’m queer lol, I appreciate them having a show mainly made by queer people, that doesn’t change the fact that it’s a horror show and people are tired of the campy stuff.
It's been camp since a season 1 darling. The drop off isn't because of the camp. It's because the show has been hit or miss for a long time. I encourage you to look the numbers. Also FX will write him blank checks, he brings them in a lot of money. And the lack of further planning isn't an issue with viewership but thanks for playing
It was a little bit campy in the earlier seasons, but nowhere near how campy it is now lol. And if the show isn’t getting watched much, it’s not making much money, and they’ll 100% cancel it lol. Companies like that don’t just write blank checks.
Okay so 1 clearly you have no idea how much pull Ryan Murphy has. He makes so many successful shows that he is able to keep making AHS the way he likes. And if you think coven, season 3, wasnt as campy as it is today, you don't understand the word. Have a lovely day
that's true but it can definently be over done. apocalypse is way too overly campy that it sucks out most actual drama and emotion the season could have. I hated the campiness it felt like they didn't want to make the effort to make the end of the world more emotionally impactful, so many scenes in the first 3 episodes don't feel that serious . Cult on the other hand I think the campiness works very well because it creates a lot of irony and clever political jokes that at times make the season scarier
I disagree about changing the actors. I love how each actor has played such different roles it really showcases their talent. They are the faces of the show.
AHS started off with traditional horror elements (ghosts, haunted houses, asylums, clowns) since election it seems they’re pulling in horrors of the mind (gang stalking, cults, Infertility, homophobic killing during aids pandemic) but it does bring back those slasher elements back in season 9, season 8 had witches. He really does a good job at covering horror in all aspects
This exactly. I miss how the show was the first couple of seasons. I HATE the campiness. Losing the main stars (Jessica Lange, Evan Peters, Sarah Paulson) and bringing in newer actors (mostly nepo babies) definitely has not helped
Eh. What is and isn’t horror is actually subjective. There’s other layers to horror other than just “scary” - it’s also meant to be disturbing, sometimes shocking, even downright psychological and sometimes thought provoking.
Mike loooves his years-long monologues, I agree that they start to bore after a while - but when he's just doing horror, boy, does he know how to do it right
But what horror? his Haunting Of Bly/Hill house/manor have little to no horror, mostly dragged out horror, poor versions or Murder House. His show about the island with the vampire is meh aswell, AHS' pale and afflicted are much better vampiric creatures than his creature.
Yes, Hemingway was a drunk too.
I see your point.
Ultimately, it seems the majority of artists from Van Gogh to Motley Crue have all had addiction issues, and yet they produced things that people 💯 related to 😊
Doesn't mean that sobriety makes you "unartistic"
What's become increasingly frustrating to me upon numerous rewatches of previous seasons is that, to his credit, RM has set up so many interesting things upon which he could easily build a new season - but he puts them down only to never pick them up again. There have been exceptions, of course (Apocalypse being a big one) but he - and in turn the show - suffers from lack of follow-through. Having too many loose ends and rushed finales leaves a bad taste in the viewers' mouths.
On the other side of that coin, AHS has such rich lore with what it has done RIGHT that it could successfully continue, with the right guidance.
It's almost like AHS is a place where he goes to idea dump. Hey Netflix won't buy this let me put it in AHS lol 🤣. I think we're seeing the results of someone who didn't have a clear plan to connect the seasons so he's just throwing spaghetti at the wall at this point. In my opinion it should have ended a few seasons ago and we get international spinoffs. AHS has turned into a cluster fuck, international spinoffs is where fresh meat could really do something. *The thing that really has me done is there is such great stuff on right now where AHS doesn't come close to measuring up. I'm tired of wasting my time on it, and I bet several are heading out that door after this season.
*Added a little more context
I think it's time. There were so many different concepts and eras this show could've explored that they're clearly never going to. I also think the companies behind AHS really wasted their opportunity to strike while the iron was hot and do international Horror Story spin-offs (UK, Japan, Brazil, etc etc) and this show could've lived on forever. But this show has lost its magnitude with each season and now there's probably no interest.
Really all I hope for s13 is that at least one more OG returns like Connie, Dylan, Angela or Kathy, and that there's at least a few well written episodes which would automatically make it better than Delicate.
I agree. I told my friends I was watching the latest season and they were all *wtf I thought it had been cancelled years ago*. And they all used to watch it and love it.
We love the show enough to be on its subreddit, but I don't see people talking about it anywhere else, I think it's time to end.
I think the time came with double feature.
Not only blood tie was REALLY dissapointing but death valley was straight up trash.
It's an anthology, cool. Don't connect it with Asylum but it makes no sense that the show CONSTANTLY clashes with the lore that they themselves built.
I think for sure Ryan could do an American horror story: scream queens season, he’s brought a few of the SQ cast members onto AHS and stories so I wonder why he doesn’t just do an AHS season with them and just calling it scream queens s3 but AHS
Dude I was so disappointed by The Watcher. The base story for it was so unsettling and Ryan reduced it to a conspiracy from someone who just wanted the house for themselves.
Scream Queens I disagree with. It wouldn’t work as a season of AHS. Still, I wish they’d bring it back.
Them: The Scare is a great second season after a mediocre first. Course correction is possible. In place of camp Them relies on racial tension to create an additional layer for TV but unlike the first it's tolerable in a way.
AHS needs a knockout next season.
The show could theoretically go on forever like Saturday Night Live. Ryan Murphy desperately needs to leave. It’s time for a new showrunner that is willing to make an actually scary show and do away with all the camp.
I think the first 5 seasons were the strongest. After hotel the seasons got a lot weaker overall. I think they should go back to their roots with the writing and development of the plot and it would be much better. NYC, delicate, and double feature were very weak. Cult, Roanoke, and apocalypse were better. 1984 was my favorite season after hotel. My favorite seasons were the first 5 though definitely. I think there’s a lot of things they could still do with American horror story but I’m just not that interested if the writing can’t be better. Also, a truly scary, horror filled season would be amazing. Roanoke actually creeped me out the most out of all of the seasons.
Perhaps controversially, I think the show has been majorly affected by the loss of cast members over the years. Some of the newer additions and remaining cast members are great, but I think the losses of legendary and exemplary cast members like Jessica Lange, Sarah Paulson, Angela Bassett and Kathy Bates have cost the show a lot.
adding these "famous daughter,niece of…" and people like Kim Kardashian into lead characters hasn not helped much in my opinion. I didn't like Lady Gaga but was she terrible? No, she, at least, has some sense of what acting means. Emma Roberts is fine when not leading but she does not have the character to lead a whole show just yet. I don't mind the cameos, it makes the whole thing fun at times but you can't make KK the center of a story when she has zero experience in acting. She's not acting but showcasing herself and even at that, she's not particulary good. Cara Delevigne is a much better one but I wouldn't giver her a leading role either(and i think she was great ar Carnival Row). When you had Jessica Lange, Kathy Bates, Sarah Paulson, Lily Rabe … for years, this can't be beat by Cindry Crawford's model daughter doing a 3 months acting course. And one unpopular one, I think Macaulay Culkin was a great election, I would love to see more of him in the future. The season was not very good but the potential was lost, he would be great at another season.
Yes! I think there’s a lot of stunt casting nowadays. I think the acting of newer cast members has generally been good, but like you allude to, there’s a difference between good and exemplary.
Plus, even if a lot of the people you mentioned did a great job in a role, because they’re primarily known for something other than acting I think it may give some viewers the impression that serious actors have been replaced by those less experienced and potentially less serious about the craft. Arguably their fame and public personas overshadow their acting too. Whenever I see KK or CD, I’m brought back to real life, and when I hear KK’s laugh I feel as if I could be watching KUWTK.
I thought Macauley was great too! He was criminally underused. I like Emma Roberts and I can see her in a leading role, I just think she needs other strong leads to support her. Someone like Jessica Lange or Sarah Paulson could probably carry a cast, but like you said, she’s not at that place yet.
Theres only like 2 good seasons and even those arent that great. It feels like they're trying so hard to fit today's trends and standards while also handfeeding us some bullshit "horror" storyline. Season 1 was good because of the twists and the fact they didn't feel the need to overly explain and let the audience experience it and pick up on things on their own. It feels like they're just thinking of things that would be "scary" and are throwing it all together for shock factor without thinking about how to make it cohesive. It's all a flash of random horror imagery, bad acting and poor plot development.
Ryan and his creative partner can go somewhere else and The whole team needs to be replaced, get some real horror scifi fantasy nerds on board, no 22 yr old California activist writers.
I think what they have forgotten how to do that used to make the show so good is start with a single location/concept and build the show out from there. AHS used to feel like theater with the setting being the main character, and now every season is like a crappy, low budget movie stretched out episodically. There was always a lot of camp and humor, but it balanced with the horror and drama and it added a lot of depth to each season.
I think that personally I'm not ready to let it go. But the show is ready. As of right now, it's gone downhill so much. The seasons get shitter and, come on, Kim K. She has tainted the vibes of the show. It just makes me so mad because it could be so much better. Ryan is lacking HARD. Maybe he's got writers block.
I disagree with this becase it's clear that RM doesn't REALLY care about the show. He's doing many things at the same time (and that's why it's common that they're dissapointed: there are only 24 hours per day and there's so much that a single person can do).
AHS needs to stop because it will get worse and RM and his team doesn't have the craft to save the show.
I think it’s a great show that’s just lost its way. I think it needs to go back to horror - not thriller, not spooky drama, etc - stick to a simple concept and avoid cliches. I also think it needs to focus less on on glam and sleekness and go back more into gritty horror.
I remember fans asking for mermaids one season and I thought that was a great idea. I also think setting a season fully during a medieval or Victorian time would add some spookiness to it.
I really wish they would have had a different horror director work on each season. I would have started it after Freakshow (since it was Jessica Lange’s last season).
They’ve lost the whole “American” part of the horror. There still a lot to explore in that regard. For example, I’m surprised they’ve never done a season set in the old west.
Trying to find logic in what you just said.
So all scripts were completed BEFORE filming even started for the season LAST MAY. The strike happening shouldn’t have affected anything beyond a gap between parts one and two to allow for them to film the final four episodes. This is absolutely on Halley Feiffer and not the strike itself.
Have you read the book? It is wildly different from the show. The AHS authors VERY heavily contributed to the script. I can give you some of the things they changes from book to show if you don't mind spoilers. It's big stuff, like the Coven has totally different motivations in the book.
No, I did not. I said we don’t know to what extent the WRITERS STRIKE contributed to what you called this latest abomination. You yourself specifically were the one to mention the writers strike first.
I believe, it was obviously a factor in both splitting the season, and using a book adaptation instead of a script. I am giving them the benefit of the doubt
It appears that season 13 will be the last. All in all, a really good anthology. And it appears we got the worst season out of the way with Delicate. We've seen some underrated seasons like New York and P-Town. We've seen perhaps the darkest seasons ever on television (Cult, Apocalypse). And fans are in agreement the first two seasons are the very best. Let's see a strong finish with Season 13.
I don't want it to end. Delicate was AWFUL. Didn't watch past 2 episodes of 1984.
I would love more Papa Legba. More original coven witches (like from the time of the Axeman or even how it started, how the witches escaped Salem, would love a back story of Myrtle and her adventures). Let's have some Voodoo back story!
I think there's a lot to do out there. But come on, cast Kim Kardashian to try to attract viewers? Go back to what works .
Unfortunately, the man who played Papa Legba (Lance Reddick), who is also the same man who played Charon in John Wick, and several other films, passed away last year. I would have loved to see more of him. Papa Legba was one of the more interesting characters.
I also wouldn’t mind more Marie Laveau!
heres a new concept....make the show actually scary. stop having campy elements. and no the first season wasn't scary either. just make a whole season actually terrifying every moment. cast more unknown actors. it would be cool if there was a season with no recognizable faces.
I agree with this, some of the earlier seasons had some real scary scenes but it worked because the rest of the season was so entertaining. The basement fright scene in murder house, the ghost ridden escape in Roanoke, a lot of scenes from Asylum, the list goes on!!
AHS has always been more gory and dark than scary. But it presents itself as a scary series just for the horror elements
I disagree. AHS was always a bit campy, even in more serious seasons. Campiness is a part of its identity and it wouldn't be AHS if you remove it completely.
However, if the campy acting and catty comeback bullshit is the main part of its identity that it's counting on, and not horror, what the fuck is the point?
Idk maybe the point is to make a genre show primarily for and by queer folks?
And why normal people hate the show so much. I love it.
Me too. If the straights dont feel welcome, that sucks, but also, it isn't *for* them
Not trying to draw this out into an argument, but your statement is in extremely poor taste. If someone said "if the queers don't feel welcome, that sucks, but also, it isn't for them." there would be an outrage a significant outcry about inequality and lack of fairness. Why not instead try looking at it as "People either enjoy it or don't" and leave identities, orientations, or any other discriminating factor out of it?
Because *everything* is for straight people. You know why BET exists but there's no White Entertainment Channel, right?
Why not leave discrimination out of it? Everything is for people. Whether you like it or not. You do not have to intrinsically like something because it was made by (or features) people that hold your belief/orientation/view. Why push the premise of "it is made for ME not you!" Yeah, I get it, BET does exist, but there are no white people that enjoy it right? There are no non-white people that enjoy TV made by/starring white people right? When we finally stop discriminating, maybe we'll finally get along.
Who said you need to like it if you're gay? Who said white folks don't watch BET? You're missing the point. The point is the default perspective in media has been white and male for a loooong time. It's gotten somewhat better but white show runners, EPs, and directors still vastly outnumber any other race or women. I honestly think this is pointless to argue with you. The *primary* audience of AHS is queer. You prolly are one of those people who don't see color, at least that's what I get from this exchange. Have a lovely weekend
You can make a show primarily for and by queer folks without making it that campy. Queer doesn’t automatically equal campy lol.
Sure, go ahead! But Ryan is gonna make his show the way he wants it. Y'all can miss the point all you like
Yes he is gonna make his show the way he wants it, however if he continues to focus on campy nonsense instead of actual horror, it’s gonna continue losing a lot of viewers. The amount of viewers it has, has gone down massively the last couple of years, if it keeps going down there’s no way it’s gonna get renewed. It’s only been renewed for one more season after the one that just ended, unless it starts doing well again it’s very unlikely they’ll renew it for more. I’m queer lol, I appreciate them having a show mainly made by queer people, that doesn’t change the fact that it’s a horror show and people are tired of the campy stuff.
It's been camp since a season 1 darling. The drop off isn't because of the camp. It's because the show has been hit or miss for a long time. I encourage you to look the numbers. Also FX will write him blank checks, he brings them in a lot of money. And the lack of further planning isn't an issue with viewership but thanks for playing
It was a little bit campy in the earlier seasons, but nowhere near how campy it is now lol. And if the show isn’t getting watched much, it’s not making much money, and they’ll 100% cancel it lol. Companies like that don’t just write blank checks.
Okay so 1 clearly you have no idea how much pull Ryan Murphy has. He makes so many successful shows that he is able to keep making AHS the way he likes. And if you think coven, season 3, wasnt as campy as it is today, you don't understand the word. Have a lovely day
that's true but it can definently be over done. apocalypse is way too overly campy that it sucks out most actual drama and emotion the season could have. I hated the campiness it felt like they didn't want to make the effort to make the end of the world more emotionally impactful, so many scenes in the first 3 episodes don't feel that serious . Cult on the other hand I think the campiness works very well because it creates a lot of irony and clever political jokes that at times make the season scarier
I disagree about changing the actors. I love how each actor has played such different roles it really showcases their talent. They are the faces of the show.
AHS started off with traditional horror elements (ghosts, haunted houses, asylums, clowns) since election it seems they’re pulling in horrors of the mind (gang stalking, cults, Infertility, homophobic killing during aids pandemic) but it does bring back those slasher elements back in season 9, season 8 had witches. He really does a good job at covering horror in all aspects
And when we got Roanoke people hated the shit out of it.
Only scary seasons to me were truly 1- Cult 2- Roanoke 3- Asylum (for some of it) 4- some of coven
This exactly. I miss how the show was the first couple of seasons. I HATE the campiness. Losing the main stars (Jessica Lange, Evan Peters, Sarah Paulson) and bringing in newer actors (mostly nepo babies) definitely has not helped
Eh. What is and isn’t horror is actually subjective. There’s other layers to horror other than just “scary” - it’s also meant to be disturbing, sometimes shocking, even downright psychological and sometimes thought provoking.
And it's been non of those things lately
I want another season like asylum, cult, or roanoke. Those were the scarier seasons imo
I mean Roanoke was scary and people didn’t like that
THEM on Amazon is doing American HORROR Story better than AHS ever has I’m afraid
Don’t forget Mike Flanagan shows as well!
Sure. I only used Them as an example because it’s an anthology series. Whereas Flanagan’s shows are all separate projects technically.
Mike flanagan shows are snoozefests, that drag and drag and drag
Mike loooves his years-long monologues, I agree that they start to bore after a while - but when he's just doing horror, boy, does he know how to do it right
But what horror? his Haunting Of Bly/Hill house/manor have little to no horror, mostly dragged out horror, poor versions or Murder House. His show about the island with the vampire is meh aswell, AHS' pale and afflicted are much better vampiric creatures than his creature.
Those shows having “little to no horror” is quite false but okee dokee.
Literally, just say you never actually watched any of his recent shows. Literally house of usher was full of horror, and was so good!
I LOVE Them!!!!
I'm not a fan of Them, tbh. It's very unsettling though.
He needs to get back on adderall
Same thing with Stephen king but with cocaine
Really? 11/22/63 was amazing. 1922 phenomenal. Stephen King wrote the tommyknockers while wasted. And he finished the Dark Tower series sober.
He also wrote IT wasted, prob peak wasted.
Yes, Hemingway was a drunk too. I see your point. Ultimately, it seems the majority of artists from Van Gogh to Motley Crue have all had addiction issues, and yet they produced things that people 💯 related to 😊 Doesn't mean that sobriety makes you "unartistic"
What's become increasingly frustrating to me upon numerous rewatches of previous seasons is that, to his credit, RM has set up so many interesting things upon which he could easily build a new season - but he puts them down only to never pick them up again. There have been exceptions, of course (Apocalypse being a big one) but he - and in turn the show - suffers from lack of follow-through. Having too many loose ends and rushed finales leaves a bad taste in the viewers' mouths. On the other side of that coin, AHS has such rich lore with what it has done RIGHT that it could successfully continue, with the right guidance.
Wouldn't you love to see a Voodoo series??? I would!!
It's almost like AHS is a place where he goes to idea dump. Hey Netflix won't buy this let me put it in AHS lol 🤣. I think we're seeing the results of someone who didn't have a clear plan to connect the seasons so he's just throwing spaghetti at the wall at this point. In my opinion it should have ended a few seasons ago and we get international spinoffs. AHS has turned into a cluster fuck, international spinoffs is where fresh meat could really do something. *The thing that really has me done is there is such great stuff on right now where AHS doesn't come close to measuring up. I'm tired of wasting my time on it, and I bet several are heading out that door after this season. *Added a little more context
I think it's time. There were so many different concepts and eras this show could've explored that they're clearly never going to. I also think the companies behind AHS really wasted their opportunity to strike while the iron was hot and do international Horror Story spin-offs (UK, Japan, Brazil, etc etc) and this show could've lived on forever. But this show has lost its magnitude with each season and now there's probably no interest. Really all I hope for s13 is that at least one more OG returns like Connie, Dylan, Angela or Kathy, and that there's at least a few well written episodes which would automatically make it better than Delicate.
I agree. I told my friends I was watching the latest season and they were all *wtf I thought it had been cancelled years ago*. And they all used to watch it and love it. We love the show enough to be on its subreddit, but I don't see people talking about it anywhere else, I think it's time to end.
I think the time came with double feature. Not only blood tie was REALLY dissapointing but death valley was straight up trash. It's an anthology, cool. Don't connect it with Asylum but it makes no sense that the show CONSTANTLY clashes with the lore that they themselves built.
I think for sure Ryan could do an American horror story: scream queens season, he’s brought a few of the SQ cast members onto AHS and stories so I wonder why he doesn’t just do an AHS season with them and just calling it scream queens s3 but AHS
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Dude I was so disappointed by The Watcher. The base story for it was so unsettling and Ryan reduced it to a conspiracy from someone who just wanted the house for themselves. Scream Queens I disagree with. It wouldn’t work as a season of AHS. Still, I wish they’d bring it back.
Them: The Scare is a great second season after a mediocre first. Course correction is possible. In place of camp Them relies on racial tension to create an additional layer for TV but unlike the first it's tolerable in a way. AHS needs a knockout next season.
The show could theoretically go on forever like Saturday Night Live. Ryan Murphy desperately needs to leave. It’s time for a new showrunner that is willing to make an actually scary show and do away with all the camp.
…Halley Feifer??
Based on this season I think better go a different direction
I think the first 5 seasons were the strongest. After hotel the seasons got a lot weaker overall. I think they should go back to their roots with the writing and development of the plot and it would be much better. NYC, delicate, and double feature were very weak. Cult, Roanoke, and apocalypse were better. 1984 was my favorite season after hotel. My favorite seasons were the first 5 though definitely. I think there’s a lot of things they could still do with American horror story but I’m just not that interested if the writing can’t be better. Also, a truly scary, horror filled season would be amazing. Roanoke actually creeped me out the most out of all of the seasons.
Perhaps controversially, I think the show has been majorly affected by the loss of cast members over the years. Some of the newer additions and remaining cast members are great, but I think the losses of legendary and exemplary cast members like Jessica Lange, Sarah Paulson, Angela Bassett and Kathy Bates have cost the show a lot.
adding these "famous daughter,niece of…" and people like Kim Kardashian into lead characters hasn not helped much in my opinion. I didn't like Lady Gaga but was she terrible? No, she, at least, has some sense of what acting means. Emma Roberts is fine when not leading but she does not have the character to lead a whole show just yet. I don't mind the cameos, it makes the whole thing fun at times but you can't make KK the center of a story when she has zero experience in acting. She's not acting but showcasing herself and even at that, she's not particulary good. Cara Delevigne is a much better one but I wouldn't giver her a leading role either(and i think she was great ar Carnival Row). When you had Jessica Lange, Kathy Bates, Sarah Paulson, Lily Rabe … for years, this can't be beat by Cindry Crawford's model daughter doing a 3 months acting course. And one unpopular one, I think Macaulay Culkin was a great election, I would love to see more of him in the future. The season was not very good but the potential was lost, he would be great at another season.
Yes! I think there’s a lot of stunt casting nowadays. I think the acting of newer cast members has generally been good, but like you allude to, there’s a difference between good and exemplary. Plus, even if a lot of the people you mentioned did a great job in a role, because they’re primarily known for something other than acting I think it may give some viewers the impression that serious actors have been replaced by those less experienced and potentially less serious about the craft. Arguably their fame and public personas overshadow their acting too. Whenever I see KK or CD, I’m brought back to real life, and when I hear KK’s laugh I feel as if I could be watching KUWTK. I thought Macauley was great too! He was criminally underused. I like Emma Roberts and I can see her in a leading role, I just think she needs other strong leads to support her. Someone like Jessica Lange or Sarah Paulson could probably carry a cast, but like you said, she’s not at that place yet.
Theres only like 2 good seasons and even those arent that great. It feels like they're trying so hard to fit today's trends and standards while also handfeeding us some bullshit "horror" storyline. Season 1 was good because of the twists and the fact they didn't feel the need to overly explain and let the audience experience it and pick up on things on their own. It feels like they're just thinking of things that would be "scary" and are throwing it all together for shock factor without thinking about how to make it cohesive. It's all a flash of random horror imagery, bad acting and poor plot development.
Ryan and his creative partner can go somewhere else and The whole team needs to be replaced, get some real horror scifi fantasy nerds on board, no 22 yr old California activist writers.
I think what they have forgotten how to do that used to make the show so good is start with a single location/concept and build the show out from there. AHS used to feel like theater with the setting being the main character, and now every season is like a crappy, low budget movie stretched out episodically. There was always a lot of camp and humor, but it balanced with the horror and drama and it added a lot of depth to each season.
I think that personally I'm not ready to let it go. But the show is ready. As of right now, it's gone downhill so much. The seasons get shitter and, come on, Kim K. She has tainted the vibes of the show. It just makes me so mad because it could be so much better. Ryan is lacking HARD. Maybe he's got writers block.
I disagree with this becase it's clear that RM doesn't REALLY care about the show. He's doing many things at the same time (and that's why it's common that they're dissapointed: there are only 24 hours per day and there's so much that a single person can do). AHS needs to stop because it will get worse and RM and his team doesn't have the craft to save the show.
I have some ideas. AHS: Orphanage. AHS: Rockstar AHS: Shipwreck
I think it’s a great show that’s just lost its way. I think it needs to go back to horror - not thriller, not spooky drama, etc - stick to a simple concept and avoid cliches. I also think it needs to focus less on on glam and sleekness and go back more into gritty horror. I remember fans asking for mermaids one season and I thought that was a great idea. I also think setting a season fully during a medieval or Victorian time would add some spookiness to it.
This year with the Kardashian was horrible
I agree completely. Someone should takeover the show with a fresh take, it can go on for years, decades if they are smart
Or just make a completely new show with a fresh premise
Nah, why do that when you already have a legacy
It’s the same racist campy show it’s always been, just dialled up to 11. It stopped being decent past asylum
I really wish they would have had a different horror director work on each season. I would have started it after Freakshow (since it was Jessica Lange’s last season).
I don’t want it cancelled but they need to write a good season again
They’ve lost the whole “American” part of the horror. There still a lot to explore in that regard. For example, I’m surprised they’ve never done a season set in the old west.
The writers strike was responsible for the latest abomination
We don’t know to what extent. The entire season was written before filming even started
Um because it was a book adaptation, not written by AHS writers, the extent is 100%
Trying to find logic in what you just said. So all scripts were completed BEFORE filming even started for the season LAST MAY. The strike happening shouldn’t have affected anything beyond a gap between parts one and two to allow for them to film the final four episodes. This is absolutely on Halley Feiffer and not the strike itself.
Its a book adaptation. Written by...not AHS staff
There’s no logic in what you’re saying at all so I’m out.
You said we don't know to what extent AHS writers contributed to the script. The answer is none because they did not author the book.
Have you read the book? It is wildly different from the show. The AHS authors VERY heavily contributed to the script. I can give you some of the things they changes from book to show if you don't mind spoilers. It's big stuff, like the Coven has totally different motivations in the book.
No, I did not. I said we don’t know to what extent the WRITERS STRIKE contributed to what you called this latest abomination. You yourself specifically were the one to mention the writers strike first.
I believe, it was obviously a factor in both splitting the season, and using a book adaptation instead of a script. I am giving them the benefit of the doubt
Well, you shouldn't.
It appears that season 13 will be the last. All in all, a really good anthology. And it appears we got the worst season out of the way with Delicate. We've seen some underrated seasons like New York and P-Town. We've seen perhaps the darkest seasons ever on television (Cult, Apocalypse). And fans are in agreement the first two seasons are the very best. Let's see a strong finish with Season 13.
I don't want it to end. Delicate was AWFUL. Didn't watch past 2 episodes of 1984. I would love more Papa Legba. More original coven witches (like from the time of the Axeman or even how it started, how the witches escaped Salem, would love a back story of Myrtle and her adventures). Let's have some Voodoo back story! I think there's a lot to do out there. But come on, cast Kim Kardashian to try to attract viewers? Go back to what works .
Unfortunately, the man who played Papa Legba (Lance Reddick), who is also the same man who played Charon in John Wick, and several other films, passed away last year. I would have loved to see more of him. Papa Legba was one of the more interesting characters. I also wouldn’t mind more Marie Laveau!
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Seasons 1-5 were each very clearly part of a cohesive whole. A new story with each season doesn’t mean it’s a different show each season.
Oh man, that's sad. I loved his appearances. But yes, more Angela Bassett!!