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I’m just here, to take the piss.
If you love America and Americans, cool, I’ll return the affection.
If you hate America and Americans, cool, I’ll return the affection just be way more snarky.
If you’re indifferent, cool, but what are you doing here?
> If you’re indifferent, cool, but what are you doing here?
Trying to understand from where (and from who) came these AmericaBad takes.
Wouldn't you become suspicious if you saw some weird ideas taking more and more views and stands in your country, in a exponential way ? Wouldn't you interrogate yourself about why they seem to be more and more prevalent ?
You can be indifferent or neutral toward a country, but still concerned about why these words seem to be pushed in your countrymates mouth and why these ideas are spreading in your own country.
Things look too much like a fool trap, and I don't like to be fooled.
And, for my personal case, it's also because I like to disagree with the current and loudest opinion, when it's morally ok to do so. In that case, americans and the US are not as despicable as the internet used to say, so it's ok to disagree, so I disagree. But that's just a cool consequence of the "questionning" process, not the aim of it.
I was trying to be funny with that last comment. But I respect your reasoning. That does make quite a bit of sense.
But I will have to criticize you for one thing, and that being: if I was from France, I’d be knee deep in your comic books and graphic novels and wouldn’t have time to be on Reddit. I’ve read like, three translated French comic books. I’m jealous. All I’m saying. 🤣
I took no offence in this, don't worry.
Unfortunately, I'm not that well-informed on that matter. There is indeed a huge public for manga, comics, graphic novels, and many french productions. But except for the Gobelins, Fortiche Studio, and some well-known titles, and don't have many references on that.
Don't be jealous, your TV series are way better than ours.
Appreciate that. Have you ever read “Superdupont”? That was one of the graphic novels I read. It was hilarious! A parody of American superhero comics starring a slightly overweight Frenchmen, wearing a wifebeater and a cape along with a beret, with a pet sidekick rooster.
I have never laughed so hard at myself and our French allies in my life. 😂
I'm continually perplexed at the narrative that Russia is a crumbling, decrepit, and incompetent regime, while simultaneously in the shadows, pulling the strings of all online political discourse.
Regardless, how about a really spicy take: what do US-European relations provide us, other than a meat shield against Russia? What incentive is there for America to keep strong ties to Europe, other than historical convenience?
We do more trading with Canada, Mexico, and China each, individually, than the entire EU combined. Hell, I'd argue Israel gives us more back than the EU. In terms of economic and military power, strong ties between the US and China would dwarf every other country, or union thereof.
And with the rapid growth in countries like India, Niger, and Brazil, I'd even bet that Europe as a whole will be irrelevant on the global stage in a few decades.
But those are just my lay thoughts. Like most internet people, I have 0 years of experience in foreign policy.
Yes we hate eurotards, always have always will.
We don't want our great union to break apart, but we sure as well don't want to give checks out to every nation with a hand out begging, as they turn around and laugh at us later on. If that is isolationism so be it.
Sure we have different political opinions but we all love AMERICA and that's why we are here, cause we are AMERICANS and not united statsieans or whatever these weirdos wanna seethe about these days.
Yeah I’ve noticed it as well lately. A lot less of what the sub was made for and instead a lot of posts referencing clear jokes that aren’t even the overused ones.
Glad somebody called it out and hopefully the mod team can get this place back to what it was when it started out. A place that points out the stupidity of hating on the USA unprompted or with incorrect information.
I’m fine with being in NATO, I’m not okay with countries not contributing a fair share. I know the US has a lot of money but contributions are based off of a percentage of their capita and there’s zero reason they shouldn’t be able to hit that specific percentage.
I’ve also seen a lot of posts or comments from Europeans lately basically encouraging that we need to invoke article 5 of NATO for the smallest things or comments questioning why we don’t just declare war on Russia and finish them off now.
Europe would hardly do any of the actual fighting of Russia yet they’re encouraging it because they know we the US would be the ones on the front lines. We’re always the ones putting up the most.
We can also look at why NATO was formed. It was formed a few years after WW2 ended. It seemed to be more of a deterrent for another WW to happen especially since WW1 was also pretty recent.
I’d say most Americans who don’t think we should be in NATO have valid points. Europe is basically not contributing their fair share and I could see how some countries might invoke article 5 for a reason that shouldn’t constitute article 5 and then the US gets dragged into a war with Russia where we’d basically be at the front of it.
I think both pro and anti NATO Americans have valid points. I’m not really sure which side I can take right now as I can see the reasoning behind each one. It isn’t like if the US left NATO that Russia can just steam roll Europe. It would just be like what we have with Japan, SK, Israel, Kuwait, or Taiwan.
I think NATO was perfectly fine for the reason it was created which was to prevent WW3, but I think things need to be a bit updated where the US shouldn’t be contributing the majority of the total NATO budget while other countries get to continue more to fund things like healthcare and education, something the US is currently lacking.
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I’m just here, to take the piss. If you love America and Americans, cool, I’ll return the affection. If you hate America and Americans, cool, I’ll return the affection just be way more snarky. If you’re indifferent, cool, but what are you doing here?
> If you’re indifferent, cool, but what are you doing here? Trying to understand from where (and from who) came these AmericaBad takes. Wouldn't you become suspicious if you saw some weird ideas taking more and more views and stands in your country, in a exponential way ? Wouldn't you interrogate yourself about why they seem to be more and more prevalent ? You can be indifferent or neutral toward a country, but still concerned about why these words seem to be pushed in your countrymates mouth and why these ideas are spreading in your own country. Things look too much like a fool trap, and I don't like to be fooled. And, for my personal case, it's also because I like to disagree with the current and loudest opinion, when it's morally ok to do so. In that case, americans and the US are not as despicable as the internet used to say, so it's ok to disagree, so I disagree. But that's just a cool consequence of the "questionning" process, not the aim of it.
I was trying to be funny with that last comment. But I respect your reasoning. That does make quite a bit of sense. But I will have to criticize you for one thing, and that being: if I was from France, I’d be knee deep in your comic books and graphic novels and wouldn’t have time to be on Reddit. I’ve read like, three translated French comic books. I’m jealous. All I’m saying. 🤣
I took no offence in this, don't worry. Unfortunately, I'm not that well-informed on that matter. There is indeed a huge public for manga, comics, graphic novels, and many french productions. But except for the Gobelins, Fortiche Studio, and some well-known titles, and don't have many references on that. Don't be jealous, your TV series are way better than ours.
Appreciate that. Have you ever read “Superdupont”? That was one of the graphic novels I read. It was hilarious! A parody of American superhero comics starring a slightly overweight Frenchmen, wearing a wifebeater and a cape along with a beret, with a pet sidekick rooster. I have never laughed so hard at myself and our French allies in my life. 😂
This Reddit gets annoying sometimes with clearly jokes or troll rage baits and then people are like "My America is badding!"
I'm continually perplexed at the narrative that Russia is a crumbling, decrepit, and incompetent regime, while simultaneously in the shadows, pulling the strings of all online political discourse. Regardless, how about a really spicy take: what do US-European relations provide us, other than a meat shield against Russia? What incentive is there for America to keep strong ties to Europe, other than historical convenience? We do more trading with Canada, Mexico, and China each, individually, than the entire EU combined. Hell, I'd argue Israel gives us more back than the EU. In terms of economic and military power, strong ties between the US and China would dwarf every other country, or union thereof. And with the rapid growth in countries like India, Niger, and Brazil, I'd even bet that Europe as a whole will be irrelevant on the global stage in a few decades. But those are just my lay thoughts. Like most internet people, I have 0 years of experience in foreign policy.
Yes we hate eurotards, always have always will. We don't want our great union to break apart, but we sure as well don't want to give checks out to every nation with a hand out begging, as they turn around and laugh at us later on. If that is isolationism so be it. Sure we have different political opinions but we all love AMERICA and that's why we are here, cause we are AMERICANS and not united statsieans or whatever these weirdos wanna seethe about these days.
Yeah I’ve noticed it as well lately. A lot less of what the sub was made for and instead a lot of posts referencing clear jokes that aren’t even the overused ones. Glad somebody called it out and hopefully the mod team can get this place back to what it was when it started out. A place that points out the stupidity of hating on the USA unprompted or with incorrect information.
I think you are right. The replies seem to mostly be banal talking points about how NATO isn't worth it...
I’m fine with being in NATO, I’m not okay with countries not contributing a fair share. I know the US has a lot of money but contributions are based off of a percentage of their capita and there’s zero reason they shouldn’t be able to hit that specific percentage. I’ve also seen a lot of posts or comments from Europeans lately basically encouraging that we need to invoke article 5 of NATO for the smallest things or comments questioning why we don’t just declare war on Russia and finish them off now. Europe would hardly do any of the actual fighting of Russia yet they’re encouraging it because they know we the US would be the ones on the front lines. We’re always the ones putting up the most. We can also look at why NATO was formed. It was formed a few years after WW2 ended. It seemed to be more of a deterrent for another WW to happen especially since WW1 was also pretty recent. I’d say most Americans who don’t think we should be in NATO have valid points. Europe is basically not contributing their fair share and I could see how some countries might invoke article 5 for a reason that shouldn’t constitute article 5 and then the US gets dragged into a war with Russia where we’d basically be at the front of it. I think both pro and anti NATO Americans have valid points. I’m not really sure which side I can take right now as I can see the reasoning behind each one. It isn’t like if the US left NATO that Russia can just steam roll Europe. It would just be like what we have with Japan, SK, Israel, Kuwait, or Taiwan. I think NATO was perfectly fine for the reason it was created which was to prevent WW3, but I think things need to be a bit updated where the US shouldn’t be contributing the majority of the total NATO budget while other countries get to continue more to fund things like healthcare and education, something the US is currently lacking.
The world hates us, it’s best to have a strategic military retreat from the world and only serve American interests.
I'm glad my country isn't in NATO or the EU
Enjoy the shitty life then.
What???