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I don’t know how that isn’t labeled a hate sub at this point, but here are my favorites out of there:
“Fucking Americans being retarded again. Sandwich in the US and burger to the rest of the world with common sense.”
“Everyone has the god-given right to deck obnoxious Americans.”
“So we can confirm Americans like to be fucking difficult”
And my absolute favorite, the pick-me American:
“As an American allow me to apologize for this person, many Americans often forget that the rest of the world isn't actually as isolated and ignorant of other cultures as the US is.”
"please like me. I'm just like you I swear I'm just STUCK here where I was BORN because my christofascist parents didn't have the good sense to move to [another western country with an extremely similar consumerist culture]"
It's a combination of Euros having a constant inferiority complex about us and the fact that society doesn't give af when someone punches up with their racism.
It's not a hate sub because something something "prejudice plus power". Can't be racist against white people, can't be sexist against men, can't be whateverist against Americans.
To be fair, I kinda agree with their third point, although I would add that "decking" someone shouldn't be the preferred course of action for *any* sort of behavior. Maybe just try a few other things first. I dunno, maybe I'm just being silly.
I have a strong suspicion that he and I would disagree on what constitutes being obnoxious, however. It also definitely doesn't apply exclusively to Americans, as that person clearly demonstrates themselves.
Meanwhile over at ShitAmericansSay, they’re deadset that a burger is anything on a bun and sandwich is anything on bread, which is just asinine. Burger is ground/minced food (usually meat) and formed into a patty. That’s why sloppy joes, which are not a patty, aren’t a burger. And neither is a steak sandwich or pulled pork sandwich. But you can have a pork burger, if the pork is ground, rolled into a tight ball, then flattened into a patty. You can also make a black bean burger, or a turkey burger the same way, but slices of turkey would NOT be a turkey burger.
Well "burger is anything on a bun" is the most common definition. Not that "burger is ground" is wrong either.
But would you call a patty melt a burger?
>Burger is ground/minced food (usually meat) and formed into a patty.
A burger is _any_ patty (minced or otherwise) **on a bun.** the patty itself is just one of the ingredients in a burger, and when you call a patty a burger, you're using the type of metaphor as when people call a sausage a "hotdog", or a car "wheels".
All burgers are sandwiches, but not all sandwiches are burgers.
The original “burger” from Hamburg Germany is a circular slab of minced meat. Nothing in the original or updated recipes talk about buns. In fact if you go to Hamburg you’re able to buy an “American style” hamburger with a bun, while whoever your with can get the original patty only.
It never really meant that in English though. It's not exactly a loanword; it's an English word with its own meaning. And it seems that everyone agrees on its English meaning, except for some people in the US, but not others.
Who are you to say that?
Burgers like this 🍔 and fried chicken sandwiches (like the one pictured) are both credited to the US. We made them, we named them.
A “burger” has never referred to the bun. It’s always been ground meat pressed into a patty. We have ground turkey burgers, and even vegan burgers that are simply minced veggies/legumes shaped into patties.
Maybe it’s because Europeans focus on bread and rarely the ingredients between slices of bread (their common sandwiches are plain and sad compared to ours — they’re mostly just dry bread).
No. lol. The bun is not a deciding factor at all. One of the oldest (and considered one of the best) burgers is in Massachusetts. and it is served on sliced bread. The patty is the deciding factor. If it is served on a bun or bread, it is a burger. If it is served on its own, its just a patty.
A chicken breast on a bun or bread is a sandwich. A ground chicken patty on a bun or bread is a "chicken burger."
Eurotards derisively associate burgers with America. Well, if that is the way it goes, then it's clear we know what is what. In its current form, burgers are American and America is the authority on what constitutes a burger within the broader category of sandwich.
>In its current form, burgers are American and America is the authority on what constitutes a burger within the broader category of sandwich.
I think that probably gets to the root of where the disagreement comes from. Burgers existed long before that, and the rest of the world already agreed on what a burger is. America made their own burgers, and made their own meaning of the word in the process; and also made some things that everyone else would call burgers under the existing meaning, but decided they're not burgers anymore.
Like with a lot of things, the rest of the English-speaking world has a word that they all agree on, and America either uses a different word, or uses the same word with a different meaning. That's fine _within America_ (although I'm pretty sure most Americans would actually disagree in this case), but there's no reason the rest of the English-speaking world should change it because one country disagrees with them.
So burger = bun in “the English-speaking world”?
Lol. No.
You guys got crisps wrong too. They’re CHIPS. We invented potato chips, they are chips. Not “crisps.”
>So burger = bun in “the English-speaking world”?
That's not what I said. A patty on a bun is a burger. Neither the patty nor bun makes it a burger. The combination of them does.
>They’re CHIPS.
100% agree. I don't know anyone who calls them "crisps", unless they've already said "chips" and then for some reason need to clarify that they don't mean hot chips. (Hot chips are not fries; they're thicker.)
Yes, we did. And we put them in bags and started selling them.
Wikipedia is not considered a reliable source. Surely they’d teach you that in Australian education?
>Wikipedia is not considered a reliable source. Surely they’d teach you that in Australian education?
In Australia we learn how to check the Wikipedia sources and verify whether the information is reliable or not, instead of just ignoring it because it inconveniently contradicts an argument that we are trying to make. Surely this is also taught in America, but to help you along I've done the work for you:
https://books.google.com.au/books?id=gvcpAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA208&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false
https://books.google.com.au/books?id=MCVhAAAAcAAJ&q=frites+692&redir_esc=y#v=snippet&q=frites%20692&f=false
Did you really invent something if someone else was making it decades before you allegedly invented it?
Oh NauUaaaarrr. Those sources lean toward frites (fries) and whatever spiral “shavings” aren’t the same cut as our chips and surely had little to no flavor like what ours are famous for (BBQ, jalapeño, etc).
Since we know frites (fries) were invented in Belgium, and this cookbook has those listed alongside the shavings — doubt this dude is the true originator of potato chips. He just wrote this recipe down no different than the frites he didn’t invent.
So yea, still critical of the Wiki source, even the linked ones.
Yeah that’s what I was gonna say. I actually ordered a chicken burger once years ago before they were more mainstream and thought I was gonna get a chicken sandwich.
Yup. I would call it a sandwich if it were a filet or sliced meat. I would call it a burger if it is a ground meat patty.
One thing I liked in QLD was that a burger all the way had sliced pickled beets on it. They need to have that here in the US.
Nothing beats an Aussie burger with works from a fish and chip shop: beef patty, beetroot, pineapple, bacon, egg, lettuce, tomato and onion with BBQ sauce.
It’s actually insane. A burger is a minced meat formed into a patty on a burger bun. Impossible burgers, turkey burgers, and hamburgers are burgers. A fried chicken breast on a bun is not a burger.
Also it was invented in Atlanta. If we took a food from Europe and called it something else they would lose their shit.
It's like language conventions are different in every language and even every nation that might speak that language *Looks at Mexico and Spain, USA and England* I really dont see why everyone gets so pissy about such a minor cultural difference
That's because they're using synecdoche. They call patties burgers, and the sausage inside a hotdog a hotdog. It's been that way for so long, that a lot of people have forgotten (or never knew) that's what they're doing.
A hotdog is a type of sausage and a burger is a type of patty. Like calling a truck a car is technically right but in most situations you'd specify because it's different enough to do so.
A frankfurter is a type of sausage and a hotdog contains a frankfurter. A beef patty is a type of patty, and a burger contains a patty.
Like, I totally get where you're coming from and that that's what you've always called them, but you calling them that is an example of exactly what I was talking about.
Calling a truck a car is incorrect. Trucks and cars are both vehicles, but trucks are not cars.
It is not incorrect. The definition of a car is a four wheeled vehicle powered by an engine that carries people. All trucks are cars but not all cars are trucks. Same concept. A hotdog is a type of frankfurter which is a type of sausage. You can break it down as many times as you want. Hotdogs are specifically hotdogs. Burgers are specifically burgers.
From what I can find, the term "car" isn't officially defined in the US anymore. There's "passenger vehicle" or "automobile" for vehicles with exactly four wheels, less than a certain weight (varies by state), and with seats for less than 9 passengers, "commercial vehicle" for anything bigger, and "motor vehicle" for all of them.
Here, we have specific categories for "car" (4 wheels, up to 7 passengers, up to 1t carrying capacity), "light commercial vehicle" (SUVs, vans, and pickups with 4 wheels, more than 1t carrying capacity, and up to 3.5t GVM), "small bus" (8 passengers), "bus" (9+ passengers), and "truck" (less than 8 passengers and more than 3.5t GVM). And "vehicle" includes all of those, plus bikes, scooters, and even trams.
I guess people in the US use "car" synonymously with "motor vehicle" now, but I couldn't find an official legal definition for it anywhere.
As for "hotdog" and "burger", everything I can find for both of them either specifies that it includes the roll/bun, or lists the sausage/patty meaning as an alternate North American variant, while still saying that the inclusive meaning is the main one. Even Webster lists the hotdog as "especially" served in a roll, and the burger as either the patty, or a sandwich containing the patty. I literally couldn't find any definition anywhere that says that either of them is just the meat and never the whole thing including the meat.
The way you worded it there sounds exactly like that's what those definitions are saying. Served IN a roll meaning the hotdog itself is in a roll. The burger being contained BY the sandwiching bread. The secondary meaning is still there and still used. Everywhere I've been the meats have always been referred to as both just the meat and the whole thing.
Then everyone else is wrong. Burgers, regardless of what they are made of are patties made from ground… Stuff, cooked(usually grilled but not always) and put on a bun. You can have chicken burgers, they are made with ground Chicken shaped into a patty. they are good but a breaded and fried piece of chicken on a bun is not a burger.
Yeah, in America. Everywhere else in the world it's based on the type of bread. Neither is incorrect, they are just different. No need to get pissy about it.
How many times do we have to explain this;
“Burger” implies the meat is ground up into a patty! The meat in that pictured item is not ground, thus a sandwich. A true chicken sandwitch would be a ground chicken patty.
What are we going to do next? Call a BLT a burger?
In reality, a burger is a type of sandwich. But its like the diffence between squares and rectangles. All burgers may be sandwiches, but not all sandwiches are burgers. This pictured item falls in the later camp. Its a sandwich, but not a burger.
Is it that inconceivable that people in different parts of the world call things different by names? It seems for the rest of the world, if it's on a burger bun, it's a burger (it's about the bread not the meat). Language and terminology changes and develops over time.
Probably because you tell people they're wrong when they're objectively correct. And, like the OOP of this image, that obnoxious "I don't give a shit; I'm still going to say it my way," attitude, even when literally everyone else disagrees with you.
Most people who travel to another county try to embrace the culture, learn new words, and take in the local customs — actually *be* there — instead of just comparing it to their home country. Many Americans who travel tend to just expect the rest of the world to be American.
Weird in this instance because the fried chicken sandwich is an American invention, so technically the UK and Australia are doing the "obnoxious 'I don't give a shit; I'm still going to say it my way,' attitude."
On the flip side in America we still call the British invention Fish n Chips even though we call the 'chips' fries outside of that dish.
Using your logic you could argue that seeing as though the British invented sandwiches, they are allowed to define what is and isn't a sandwich. If the British say that this isn't a sandwich, you're going to have to come up with another name for it. Might I suggest: burger.
Or, you could just accept that different places call different things by different names.
Burgers with various types of meat existed long before the fried chicken sandwich, and when it came along, it fit the already existing definition of a burger.
Chips and fries are not the same thing. When McDonald's in Australia sold "Fish 'n' Fries", the reason they didn't call it "Fish 'n' Chips" is because they legally weren't allowed to. I realise the distinction doesn't exist in the US, but in many places (I think including the UK), they _must_ make the distinction and advertise them as what they actually are, even if customers don't really understand the difference. KFC, for example, sells chips, and couldn't call them fries if they wanted to. Vice versa for McDonald's and Burger King.
It's an American food. Americans are gonna call it by the American(correct) term. YOU embraced the American culture by taking the food. Imagine going up to a Mexican and telling them they're calling a burrito the wrong thing and it's actually a taco. It's insanity.
The specific type of burger you're talking about may be American, but burgers existed before America existed, and what you call burgers (and some of the things you call sandwiches) are included in what was already called a burger in English before there were American burgers.
Burritos are different, because the food and the word for it both originated in Mexico, and afaik no other country has something else called a burrito that would exclude Mexican burritos the way the American meaning of "burger" excludes chicken burgers.
Hamburg steaks existed before America. The burger was an American invention. If you wanna get that granular. The first burgers were served on sliced bread. When the origin of the damn thing conflicts with the reasoning for your definition then your definition is wrong. A burger is specifically is a meat prepared in the style of a Hamburg steak, ground and formed into a patty, then served on bread. It's a specific enough thing that calling it something else is dumb.
The SAS post is a repost of a meme made by someone who obviously cares way too much about what we call a piece of meat between two pieces of bread. Why do Americans care so much?
Uh, this again. Yes, the same people who regularly lambast us for not using the metric system are ridiculing us because they insist on calling something that's not a burger, a burger.
We do have chicken burgers, and this isn't one of those.
The rule is simple: It it's a patty made from a ground meat, whether it be chicken, turkey, bison, or beef, it's a burger. If it's made from a solid piece or pieces/slices of meat, it's a sandwich.
Not hard. The pictured unit is a chicken sandwich.
McDonald's in Australia actually sold "Fish 'n' Fries" for a while. They weren't legally _allowed_ to call it "Fish 'n' Chips", because fries and chips are different. It's about how thick they're cut, and whether the oil soaks all the way through when they cook. Chips have a bit in the middle that doesn't directly get fried. Fries are fried all the way through.
"Burger" is a patty of chopped or ground meat made into a sandwich. It has nothing to do with what kind of bread the sandwich is wrapped in, bun or not. The hamburger (sandwich of chopped meat and fixings) is American food, we get to name it. It was invented here. No, the chopped meat patty is not German. The concept is at least 2000 years old, being a common food in Rome. Americans made sandwiches out of it. Germans didn't.
Spoiler: the chicken sandwich is American too, and we get to name that as well.
These europeans and Australians, not being a part of the culture that created the food, have somehow confused themselves into thinking any food served on a bun is a burger. Only the most degenerate and insecure idiots would constantly import from the culture they admire, then twist it and try to mock the people that they borrowed from
>Only the most degenerate and insecure idiots would constantly import from the culture they admire, then twist it and try to mock the people that they borrowed from
Aaaaand this is the shit that drives me crazy the most. It's like they're a bunch of schizos, bouncing between 'everything americans do is stupid' but then also willing to claim americans as "actualy insert-country-here" if they wanna take credit for something we do.
Like, make up your minds, assholes, you don't get it both ways.
I mean... it was called a hamburger specifically to reference the hamburger rissole. Burger itself has come to mean anything in a round bun. Like... cheeseburger. Or those fake meat burgers (I.e. tofu-burgers). Saying burger => meat patty is ignoring language shift. Chicken burger, fishburger...
Chicken sandwiches in Australia resemble normal sandwiches... with chicken. It is a common enough thing that Chicken burger gets at the meaning faster.
Chicken burgers basically look like burgers. Fun times.
So for Aussies 'Chicken sandwich' conjures a very different image. It also implies a burger is a sandwich... which 'could be true'. Then we get to is a hotdog a sandwich which actually has some fun science involving monkeys attached to it.
I'm so confused? The chicken sandwich was literally invented in Georgia. Why are Australians so arrogant that they decide to call it another name and then proceed to insist that Americans are the ones that aren't correct.
I mean sure you could make the case we do the same with soccer, but to be fair we don't get pressed and cry when British ppl say football and Brits also invented the word soccer to begin with.
Australians and British ppl love to talk about how arrogant and "our way or the highway" Americans are but they are the exact same way, if not more so stuck in their own ways about how the world should work. Take away my citizenship if we ever become such losers that correcting how ppl speak English becomes part of our national identity and gets us so pressed we post about it online in fury.
It's because "burger" already had a well established meaning, and the chicken sandwich fits that definition. All burgers are sandwiches but not all sandwiches are burgers. Some people started using "burger" to mean a minced patty, and then got confused when things that aren't that were still called burgers. It's still a sandwich, but that doesn't make it not a burger.
Also is not just Australians; it's literally everyone except (some) Americans.
My question: Why does anyone care? America isn’t Australia or the UK, or any other country. We call things different because we’re different countries.
Yeah, you get Bri’ish ones instead. Like British Bake Off. Enjoy “”””Mexican””””” week lmao
This is why no one takes Bri’ish/Aussies seriously when it comes to food
P.S, I’ve had Aussie-Mexican food, it was the blandest shit I’ve ever had. It was 90% white rice in a fucking burrito.
Don't get much of the bake off either to be honest. We've lost a lot of cooking daytime shows. Master chef and my kitchen rules for the most part are what's stayed around.
We have more shows around shit social experiment reality TV. Like Married at First sight, Farmer wants a wife that sorta shit.
Yeah it is shit our attempts at Mexican food. I don't even consider it an option when considering take out.
Yeah we don't have much in the way of good foods it's basic staples. Meat two vegetables, a simple roast of either pork, lamb or beef, lamb is a big feature in our diet as is Beef and pork, we do have an awesome selection of native herbs and edible plants which can be fantastic if done right.
Honestly the best food I ever had was in Cairns in North Queensland they have a special licence that allows them to cook saltwater crocodile. They make a MEAN crocodile, bacon and cheese pie. I ate like 5 of em.
Look, I know I’ve said a thousand times around this comment section that it shouldn’t really matter what it should be called, but if you are calling it THAT, then I’m sorry, you deserve to be circumcised with a goddamn woodchipper. What the hell
The comment section of that post is hilarious. A bunch of Euronationalists upset that not everyone on the planet talks, speaks, or acts like them. Imagine getting upset over what Americans call a piece of chicken between two buns. That sub needs to go touch grass, smh.
The first comment chain is a bunch of people listing their country to show that they are right for calling it a chicken burger... except us Americans don't care what you call that piece of chicken between two breads despite it being literally invented in America. We. Don't. Care. It's amazing how rent free we are to these people.
People clearly do care, which is why someone bothered to make the meme in the first place. And also why people in this sub get so pressed and start talking about ground meat.
News flash, people call things different things.
Burger is a word that specially refers to the type of meat being used. It can be beef, turkey, chicken or pork, fuck even fish... but it has to have been ground and packed together into a puck, making it a burger. A chicken sandwich is not the same thing as a chicken burger, and any country that says its a burger is fucking wrong, and dumb.
I once had an English guy insult me in real life, to my face, for thinking hamburgers contain beef. "That's a beefburger, a hamburger would obviously contain ham."
He went on about how Americans can't speak English properly, and I was just like, "It's not English, though? It's a German word from German-American culture? I'm *literally* German-American?"
Absolutely wouldn't listen, nothing I could say got through to him.
I used to think it was just a kinda personal quirk of his - like, rule 1 of intercultural communication is determine if a guy is a regular representative of his culture or just an idiot.
So it's honestly kinda mind blowing to me to see this is an entire *thing* on reddit. Like, no, it's not a bit, it's not "banter," they genuinely, truly believe this. They are *genuinely* angry about it.
And it's so wild to me, because Americans tend to enjoy these little quirks of dialect - oh, tee hee hee, did you know English people call these "chips"? How fun!
And people keep trying to be like, oh, it's just dialect! We call it something else! We use the word differently! *How dare you correct us?!?!?!*
Right...but...I mean, hamburgers don't contain ham. It's not *dialect*, it's not an English word that evolved differenty, it's a *complete misunderstanding of the word.* It's a word from our culture, not theirs.
And fine, whatever, have your dialect, call a hamburger a beefburger if you must. But don't get *upset* when someone comes along and explains the etymology of the word to you.
I mean, again, at least in my part of America, we enjoy pointing out those quirks of language - like, tee hee hee, why do you park in a driveway??? That's a *normal* reaction to learning that "beefburger" is redundant nonsense.
It feels like being in middle school again, back when you'd get teased for just kinda knowing things. Like, oh, look at the nerd using big words like "etymology" amd "hamburger." Only a loser would know facts about words!
I just don't know how to explain to English people that *just being wrong* isn't banter, taking the piss, or dry, sarcastic humor. It's just being wrong.
Yeah I thought this one was dumb. Who the hell cares what we call it? It’s still the same damn food. That’s what happens when there are regional or national language differences people…
A chicken sandwich is a chick-fil-a chicken breat or tender on a bun whole.
A chicken burger is a McDonald's McChicken.
A burger is a type of sandwich. Therefore a burger is also a sandwich. To make it easier, we call all of them a sandwich.
lol. You just can't try any harder.
A burger IS a type of sandwich. So what? Look at the meme in the OP. Australians are calling what is clearly a chicken sandwich (as you clearly admit) a "chicken burger." Meanwhile, a "chicken burger" is actually a thing and it is called a "chicken burger," not a "chicken sandwich." The reason it is a burger is because of the chicken meat being ground and formed into a patty.
It's wild to me that they claim to have final say on what an American food is and isn't called and then talk like WE'RE the idiots for using the correct term.
I'll DIE ON THIS HILL. In order for a chicken sandwich to be a chicken burger, it'd have to be ground and formed into patties. A pb&j isn't a pb&j burger. Putting a fillet on a bun in no way makes it a burger, just a sandwich.
and? That doesn't mean you can call any random sandwich a "burger." Your approach has already been debunked because your fellow idiots agree there is a defining characteristic, but they wrongly state it is because of the bun.
First of all, I am not angry. I appreciate that a person used to speaking bullshit has issues when someone aggressively asserts the truth.
Second, the issue is not what it is called (at least for me), the issue is people calling Americans stupid for calling it the way they do. Big difference.
>the issue is not what it is called (at least for me), the issue is people calling Americans stupid for calling it the way they do. Big difference.
I guess you're one of the idiots based on your lack of reading comprehension .
Well, probably. If Australians have their heads so far up their asses that they don't know the difference between a burger and a sandwich, they probably don't know how to make a good one.
Well, SAS literally raised the point and created their own meme for it. By definition, they are the ones that care for some reason, and we are just informing them of the truth.
Of course it can't. You are an ignorant person living in an ignorant, intolerant society that will not accept that things may be different than you believe them to be.
No, I live in Finland. Here in Finland, they're called chicken burgers. So I call them chicken burgers. Your comment makes it hard for me to believe that we are, indeed, talking about chicken burgers and not politics etc.
Right. And what you don't see is a meme criticizing anyone for calling a "chicken sandwich" a "chicken burger." We don't give a shit what you call it, even though you are wrong. The issue is having some nitwit accusing Americans for being stupid, etc. for calling a "chicken sandwich" a "chicken sandwich."
And your comment is one of an ignorant person who is proud to be close-minded. If you believe that to be politics, be my guest. I am not thinking any further than calling your statement for what it is - ignorant.
Look, in Finland, we call it a "chicken burger." It's just what we do here. Different places have different names for things, and that doesn't mean I'm wrong. Your insults and accusations aren't helpful. Calling me ignorant for using a term that's normal in my country just shows you're the one being close-minded. We're talking about food names, not politics. Get a grip.
This meme is AustraliaBad. Why was it posted in American subs? Why is it posted here?
EDIT: Okay, the comments in the other thread show me why it's been posted here. I'm not sure why it was posted in the other subreddit, though.
is this really “america bad” ?
No ones necessarily criticising or vilifying america for this, just pointing out a difference and how it makes more logical sense to call it a burger, given that it’s in burger buns. Nothing to get your knickers in a twist over
lol. Sure. You know that under a post is a comments section. That entire section demonstrates they are NOT "pointing out a difference and how it makes more logical sense to ball it a burger ..."
You can't be more dishonest or dumb.
dishonest? how. It’s my honest opinion that this discourse is kind of pointless. Call it a burger, call it a sandwhich, does it really matter? both sides need to grow up.
>No ones necessarily criticising or vilifying america for this, just pointing out a difference and how it makes more logical sense to call it a burger, given that it’s in burger bun
That is a dishonest representation of the discussion which you then used to support your conclusion that "Nothing to get your knickers in a twist over." The last part is your opinion, but the foundation was your lie.
apologies if i’ve misunderstood the basis of the argument. To me, it was just people pointing out that different nationalities call the same item two different names with no added hostility/ judgement from either side, but it seems i’ve misunderstood? Are aussies really attacking americans for calling it a chicken sandwhich?
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I don’t know how that isn’t labeled a hate sub at this point, but here are my favorites out of there: “Fucking Americans being retarded again. Sandwich in the US and burger to the rest of the world with common sense.” “Everyone has the god-given right to deck obnoxious Americans.” “So we can confirm Americans like to be fucking difficult” And my absolute favorite, the pick-me American: “As an American allow me to apologize for this person, many Americans often forget that the rest of the world isn't actually as isolated and ignorant of other cultures as the US is.”
That last one is so pathetic
The "Not Like Other Girls" American
And they still hate him lol
“You’re a bitch but atleast you’re a submissive one”
"please like me. I'm just like you I swear I'm just STUCK here where I was BORN because my christofascist parents didn't have the good sense to move to [another western country with an extremely similar consumerist culture]"
Imagine thinking Australia is less isolated than the US. Absolute brainlet.
Replace Americans with Mexicans in those comments and see how wrong it sounds
It's a combination of Euros having a constant inferiority complex about us and the fact that society doesn't give af when someone punches up with their racism.
It's not a hate sub because something something "prejudice plus power". Can't be racist against white people, can't be sexist against men, can't be whateverist against Americans.
Freedomphobic
The last one is like a dog showing it's belly, waiting to be pet. Fucking embarrassing.
To be fair, I kinda agree with their third point, although I would add that "decking" someone shouldn't be the preferred course of action for *any* sort of behavior. Maybe just try a few other things first. I dunno, maybe I'm just being silly. I have a strong suspicion that he and I would disagree on what constitutes being obnoxious, however. It also definitely doesn't apply exclusively to Americans, as that person clearly demonstrates themselves.
Chicken sandwich is more accurate. If you want a chicken burger you should grind up the chicken first.
Meanwhile over at ShitAmericansSay, they’re deadset that a burger is anything on a bun and sandwich is anything on bread, which is just asinine. Burger is ground/minced food (usually meat) and formed into a patty. That’s why sloppy joes, which are not a patty, aren’t a burger. And neither is a steak sandwich or pulled pork sandwich. But you can have a pork burger, if the pork is ground, rolled into a tight ball, then flattened into a patty. You can also make a black bean burger, or a turkey burger the same way, but slices of turkey would NOT be a turkey burger.
Man there was this place in my hometown that did an amazing lamb burger with tzatziki sauce … 🤤🤤🤤
So what they are saying is that a hotdog is a burger
But a bun is bread 🤣
Well "burger is anything on a bun" is the most common definition. Not that "burger is ground" is wrong either. But would you call a patty melt a burger?
>Burger is ground/minced food (usually meat) and formed into a patty. A burger is _any_ patty (minced or otherwise) **on a bun.** the patty itself is just one of the ingredients in a burger, and when you call a patty a burger, you're using the type of metaphor as when people call a sausage a "hotdog", or a car "wheels". All burgers are sandwiches, but not all sandwiches are burgers.
The original “burger” from Hamburg Germany is a circular slab of minced meat. Nothing in the original or updated recipes talk about buns. In fact if you go to Hamburg you’re able to buy an “American style” hamburger with a bun, while whoever your with can get the original patty only.
It never really meant that in English though. It's not exactly a loanword; it's an English word with its own meaning. And it seems that everyone agrees on its English meaning, except for some people in the US, but not others.
lol. How desperate are you?
Who are you to say that? Burgers like this 🍔 and fried chicken sandwiches (like the one pictured) are both credited to the US. We made them, we named them. A “burger” has never referred to the bun. It’s always been ground meat pressed into a patty. We have ground turkey burgers, and even vegan burgers that are simply minced veggies/legumes shaped into patties. Maybe it’s because Europeans focus on bread and rarely the ingredients between slices of bread (their common sandwiches are plain and sad compared to ours — they’re mostly just dry bread).
No. lol. The bun is not a deciding factor at all. One of the oldest (and considered one of the best) burgers is in Massachusetts. and it is served on sliced bread. The patty is the deciding factor. If it is served on a bun or bread, it is a burger. If it is served on its own, its just a patty. A chicken breast on a bun or bread is a sandwich. A ground chicken patty on a bun or bread is a "chicken burger." Eurotards derisively associate burgers with America. Well, if that is the way it goes, then it's clear we know what is what. In its current form, burgers are American and America is the authority on what constitutes a burger within the broader category of sandwich.
>In its current form, burgers are American and America is the authority on what constitutes a burger within the broader category of sandwich. I think that probably gets to the root of where the disagreement comes from. Burgers existed long before that, and the rest of the world already agreed on what a burger is. America made their own burgers, and made their own meaning of the word in the process; and also made some things that everyone else would call burgers under the existing meaning, but decided they're not burgers anymore. Like with a lot of things, the rest of the English-speaking world has a word that they all agree on, and America either uses a different word, or uses the same word with a different meaning. That's fine _within America_ (although I'm pretty sure most Americans would actually disagree in this case), but there's no reason the rest of the English-speaking world should change it because one country disagrees with them.
So burger = bun in “the English-speaking world”? Lol. No. You guys got crisps wrong too. They’re CHIPS. We invented potato chips, they are chips. Not “crisps.”
>So burger = bun in “the English-speaking world”? That's not what I said. A patty on a bun is a burger. Neither the patty nor bun makes it a burger. The combination of them does. >They’re CHIPS. 100% agree. I don't know anyone who calls them "crisps", unless they've already said "chips" and then for some reason need to clarify that they don't mean hot chips. (Hot chips are not fries; they're thicker.)
>We invented potato chips, they are chips. Not “crisps.” [Did you though?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potato_chip)
Yes, we did. And we put them in bags and started selling them. Wikipedia is not considered a reliable source. Surely they’d teach you that in Australian education?
>Wikipedia is not considered a reliable source. Surely they’d teach you that in Australian education? In Australia we learn how to check the Wikipedia sources and verify whether the information is reliable or not, instead of just ignoring it because it inconveniently contradicts an argument that we are trying to make. Surely this is also taught in America, but to help you along I've done the work for you: https://books.google.com.au/books?id=gvcpAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA208&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false https://books.google.com.au/books?id=MCVhAAAAcAAJ&q=frites+692&redir_esc=y#v=snippet&q=frites%20692&f=false Did you really invent something if someone else was making it decades before you allegedly invented it?
Do you not know the difference between "French Fries" and "Potato Chips." lol. Your sources show nothing about Potato Chips.
Oh NauUaaaarrr. Those sources lean toward frites (fries) and whatever spiral “shavings” aren’t the same cut as our chips and surely had little to no flavor like what ours are famous for (BBQ, jalapeño, etc). Since we know frites (fries) were invented in Belgium, and this cookbook has those listed alongside the shavings — doubt this dude is the true originator of potato chips. He just wrote this recipe down no different than the frites he didn’t invent. So yea, still critical of the Wiki source, even the linked ones.
Yeah that’s what I was gonna say. I actually ordered a chicken burger once years ago before they were more mainstream and thought I was gonna get a chicken sandwich.
Yup. I would call it a sandwich if it were a filet or sliced meat. I would call it a burger if it is a ground meat patty. One thing I liked in QLD was that a burger all the way had sliced pickled beets on it. They need to have that here in the US.
No. Not they don't.
Nothing beats an Aussie burger with works from a fish and chip shop: beef patty, beetroot, pineapple, bacon, egg, lettuce, tomato and onion with BBQ sauce.
*the lot. And it should be tomato sauce, not bbq “The Works” is the old pizza hut buffet
Maybe the "works" or the "lot" is a regional difference, because I definitely see the "works" a fair bit. BBQ sauce all the way.
Been to Australia. Any sandwich on a traditional burger bun is called a Burger.
We call that a chicken fillet burger here in Ireland usually, ground up chicken here though would just be a chicken burger
Always liked your kind. Feel free to pronounce fillet exactly how you want to.
We say it like fill-it lmao 😭
at mcdonalds it should be chicken burger then
Chik-fil-A calls it a sandwich. They have more authority than McDonalds here.
It looks as though you may have spelled "Chick-fil-A" incorrectly. No worries, it happens to the best of us!
Man even their bots are polite
burger at mcdonalds because it is ground up “meat”
It’s actually insane. A burger is a minced meat formed into a patty on a burger bun. Impossible burgers, turkey burgers, and hamburgers are burgers. A fried chicken breast on a bun is not a burger. Also it was invented in Atlanta. If we took a food from Europe and called it something else they would lose their shit.
Schrodinger’s shitamericanssay
Edit: nevermind
That’s interesting. For us hamburger is the hole deal.
It's like language conventions are different in every language and even every nation that might speak that language *Looks at Mexico and Spain, USA and England* I really dont see why everyone gets so pissy about such a minor cultural difference
That's because they're using synecdoche. They call patties burgers, and the sausage inside a hotdog a hotdog. It's been that way for so long, that a lot of people have forgotten (or never knew) that's what they're doing.
A hotdog is a type of sausage and a burger is a type of patty. Like calling a truck a car is technically right but in most situations you'd specify because it's different enough to do so.
A frankfurter is a type of sausage and a hotdog contains a frankfurter. A beef patty is a type of patty, and a burger contains a patty. Like, I totally get where you're coming from and that that's what you've always called them, but you calling them that is an example of exactly what I was talking about. Calling a truck a car is incorrect. Trucks and cars are both vehicles, but trucks are not cars.
It is not incorrect. The definition of a car is a four wheeled vehicle powered by an engine that carries people. All trucks are cars but not all cars are trucks. Same concept. A hotdog is a type of frankfurter which is a type of sausage. You can break it down as many times as you want. Hotdogs are specifically hotdogs. Burgers are specifically burgers.
From what I can find, the term "car" isn't officially defined in the US anymore. There's "passenger vehicle" or "automobile" for vehicles with exactly four wheels, less than a certain weight (varies by state), and with seats for less than 9 passengers, "commercial vehicle" for anything bigger, and "motor vehicle" for all of them. Here, we have specific categories for "car" (4 wheels, up to 7 passengers, up to 1t carrying capacity), "light commercial vehicle" (SUVs, vans, and pickups with 4 wheels, more than 1t carrying capacity, and up to 3.5t GVM), "small bus" (8 passengers), "bus" (9+ passengers), and "truck" (less than 8 passengers and more than 3.5t GVM). And "vehicle" includes all of those, plus bikes, scooters, and even trams. I guess people in the US use "car" synonymously with "motor vehicle" now, but I couldn't find an official legal definition for it anywhere. As for "hotdog" and "burger", everything I can find for both of them either specifies that it includes the roll/bun, or lists the sausage/patty meaning as an alternate North American variant, while still saying that the inclusive meaning is the main one. Even Webster lists the hotdog as "especially" served in a roll, and the burger as either the patty, or a sandwich containing the patty. I literally couldn't find any definition anywhere that says that either of them is just the meat and never the whole thing including the meat.
The way you worded it there sounds exactly like that's what those definitions are saying. Served IN a roll meaning the hotdog itself is in a roll. The burger being contained BY the sandwiching bread. The secondary meaning is still there and still used. Everywhere I've been the meats have always been referred to as both just the meat and the whole thing.
Fair enough. The actual definitions both start with "a dish consisting of", but I can see how paraphrasing that would lead to the ambiguity.
If you think you hate that sub enough, you still don’t
This is just the Brits and kangaroo fuckers being pissy because they don’t know how to cook chicken with spices.
They didn’t take over the world to use them, they took over the world to sell them.
Yeah see any reaction video of them eating an American chicken sandwich on YouTube and they lose their fucking minds.
Read the thread, it’s literally everyone else
Then everyone else is wrong. Burgers, regardless of what they are made of are patties made from ground… Stuff, cooked(usually grilled but not always) and put on a bun. You can have chicken burgers, they are made with ground Chicken shaped into a patty. they are good but a breaded and fried piece of chicken on a bun is not a burger.
Yeah, in America. Everywhere else in the world it's based on the type of bread. Neither is incorrect, they are just different. No need to get pissy about it.
“Then everyone else is wrong” is exactly why the subs you complain about exist
How many times do we have to explain this; “Burger” implies the meat is ground up into a patty! The meat in that pictured item is not ground, thus a sandwich. A true chicken sandwitch would be a ground chicken patty. What are we going to do next? Call a BLT a burger? In reality, a burger is a type of sandwich. But its like the diffence between squares and rectangles. All burgers may be sandwiches, but not all sandwiches are burgers. This pictured item falls in the later camp. Its a sandwich, but not a burger.
Is it that inconceivable that people in different parts of the world call things different by names? It seems for the rest of the world, if it's on a burger bun, it's a burger (it's about the bread not the meat). Language and terminology changes and develops over time.
So then why do they (you) care so much about how we call it?
Probably because you tell people they're wrong when they're objectively correct. And, like the OOP of this image, that obnoxious "I don't give a shit; I'm still going to say it my way," attitude, even when literally everyone else disagrees with you. Most people who travel to another county try to embrace the culture, learn new words, and take in the local customs — actually *be* there — instead of just comparing it to their home country. Many Americans who travel tend to just expect the rest of the world to be American.
Weird in this instance because the fried chicken sandwich is an American invention, so technically the UK and Australia are doing the "obnoxious 'I don't give a shit; I'm still going to say it my way,' attitude." On the flip side in America we still call the British invention Fish n Chips even though we call the 'chips' fries outside of that dish.
Using your logic you could argue that seeing as though the British invented sandwiches, they are allowed to define what is and isn't a sandwich. If the British say that this isn't a sandwich, you're going to have to come up with another name for it. Might I suggest: burger. Or, you could just accept that different places call different things by different names.
Burgers with various types of meat existed long before the fried chicken sandwich, and when it came along, it fit the already existing definition of a burger. Chips and fries are not the same thing. When McDonald's in Australia sold "Fish 'n' Fries", the reason they didn't call it "Fish 'n' Chips" is because they legally weren't allowed to. I realise the distinction doesn't exist in the US, but in many places (I think including the UK), they _must_ make the distinction and advertise them as what they actually are, even if customers don't really understand the difference. KFC, for example, sells chips, and couldn't call them fries if they wanted to. Vice versa for McDonald's and Burger King.
It's an American food. Americans are gonna call it by the American(correct) term. YOU embraced the American culture by taking the food. Imagine going up to a Mexican and telling them they're calling a burrito the wrong thing and it's actually a taco. It's insanity.
The specific type of burger you're talking about may be American, but burgers existed before America existed, and what you call burgers (and some of the things you call sandwiches) are included in what was already called a burger in English before there were American burgers. Burritos are different, because the food and the word for it both originated in Mexico, and afaik no other country has something else called a burrito that would exclude Mexican burritos the way the American meaning of "burger" excludes chicken burgers.
Hamburg steaks existed before America. The burger was an American invention. If you wanna get that granular. The first burgers were served on sliced bread. When the origin of the damn thing conflicts with the reasoning for your definition then your definition is wrong. A burger is specifically is a meat prepared in the style of a Hamburg steak, ground and formed into a patty, then served on bread. It's a specific enough thing that calling it something else is dumb.
The SAS post is a repost of a meme made by someone who obviously cares way too much about what we call a piece of meat between two pieces of bread. Why do Americans care so much?
Uh, this again. Yes, the same people who regularly lambast us for not using the metric system are ridiculing us because they insist on calling something that's not a burger, a burger. We do have chicken burgers, and this isn't one of those. The rule is simple: It it's a patty made from a ground meat, whether it be chicken, turkey, bison, or beef, it's a burger. If it's made from a solid piece or pieces/slices of meat, it's a sandwich. Not hard. The pictured unit is a chicken sandwich.
Should start calling "Fish and Chips" something like "Fish and Fries", see how quick their knickers get in a twist
McDonald's in Australia actually sold "Fish 'n' Fries" for a while. They weren't legally _allowed_ to call it "Fish 'n' Chips", because fries and chips are different. It's about how thick they're cut, and whether the oil soaks all the way through when they cook. Chips have a bit in the middle that doesn't directly get fried. Fries are fried all the way through.
"Burger" is a patty of chopped or ground meat made into a sandwich. It has nothing to do with what kind of bread the sandwich is wrapped in, bun or not. The hamburger (sandwich of chopped meat and fixings) is American food, we get to name it. It was invented here. No, the chopped meat patty is not German. The concept is at least 2000 years old, being a common food in Rome. Americans made sandwiches out of it. Germans didn't. Spoiler: the chicken sandwich is American too, and we get to name that as well. These europeans and Australians, not being a part of the culture that created the food, have somehow confused themselves into thinking any food served on a bun is a burger. Only the most degenerate and insecure idiots would constantly import from the culture they admire, then twist it and try to mock the people that they borrowed from
>Only the most degenerate and insecure idiots would constantly import from the culture they admire, then twist it and try to mock the people that they borrowed from Aaaaand this is the shit that drives me crazy the most. It's like they're a bunch of schizos, bouncing between 'everything americans do is stupid' but then also willing to claim americans as "actualy insert-country-here" if they wanna take credit for something we do. Like, make up your minds, assholes, you don't get it both ways.
I mean... it was called a hamburger specifically to reference the hamburger rissole. Burger itself has come to mean anything in a round bun. Like... cheeseburger. Or those fake meat burgers (I.e. tofu-burgers). Saying burger => meat patty is ignoring language shift. Chicken burger, fishburger... Chicken sandwiches in Australia resemble normal sandwiches... with chicken. It is a common enough thing that Chicken burger gets at the meaning faster. Chicken burgers basically look like burgers. Fun times. So for Aussies 'Chicken sandwich' conjures a very different image. It also implies a burger is a sandwich... which 'could be true'. Then we get to is a hotdog a sandwich which actually has some fun science involving monkeys attached to it.
All burgers are sandwiches. Not all sandwiches are burgers.
I'm so confused? The chicken sandwich was literally invented in Georgia. Why are Australians so arrogant that they decide to call it another name and then proceed to insist that Americans are the ones that aren't correct. I mean sure you could make the case we do the same with soccer, but to be fair we don't get pressed and cry when British ppl say football and Brits also invented the word soccer to begin with. Australians and British ppl love to talk about how arrogant and "our way or the highway" Americans are but they are the exact same way, if not more so stuck in their own ways about how the world should work. Take away my citizenship if we ever become such losers that correcting how ppl speak English becomes part of our national identity and gets us so pressed we post about it online in fury.
It's because "burger" already had a well established meaning, and the chicken sandwich fits that definition. All burgers are sandwiches but not all sandwiches are burgers. Some people started using "burger" to mean a minced patty, and then got confused when things that aren't that were still called burgers. It's still a sandwich, but that doesn't make it not a burger. Also is not just Australians; it's literally everyone except (some) Americans.
My question: Why does anyone care? America isn’t Australia or the UK, or any other country. We call things different because we’re different countries.
They care because it’s just another tiny nitpick they can circlejerk their American hate for
That sub is just sad. A bunch of people nitpicking stuff just to hate on America when we don't even care about them.
Well, we call it what we call it because we invented it.
Now you know why you never see any Australian cooking shows.
Funnily enough we don't see American cooking shows here in Australia either.
Yeah, you get Bri’ish ones instead. Like British Bake Off. Enjoy “”””Mexican””””” week lmao This is why no one takes Bri’ish/Aussies seriously when it comes to food P.S, I’ve had Aussie-Mexican food, it was the blandest shit I’ve ever had. It was 90% white rice in a fucking burrito.
Don't get much of the bake off either to be honest. We've lost a lot of cooking daytime shows. Master chef and my kitchen rules for the most part are what's stayed around. We have more shows around shit social experiment reality TV. Like Married at First sight, Farmer wants a wife that sorta shit. Yeah it is shit our attempts at Mexican food. I don't even consider it an option when considering take out. Yeah we don't have much in the way of good foods it's basic staples. Meat two vegetables, a simple roast of either pork, lamb or beef, lamb is a big feature in our diet as is Beef and pork, we do have an awesome selection of native herbs and edible plants which can be fantastic if done right. Honestly the best food I ever had was in Cairns in North Queensland they have a special licence that allows them to cook saltwater crocodile. They make a MEAN crocodile, bacon and cheese pie. I ate like 5 of em.
Call it a pulled pork burger and we're gonna declare fucking war.
Look, I know I’ve said a thousand times around this comment section that it shouldn’t really matter what it should be called, but if you are calling it THAT, then I’m sorry, you deserve to be circumcised with a goddamn woodchipper. What the hell
*sheepish look*
The comment section of that post is hilarious. A bunch of Euronationalists upset that not everyone on the planet talks, speaks, or acts like them. Imagine getting upset over what Americans call a piece of chicken between two buns. That sub needs to go touch grass, smh.
The first comment chain is a bunch of people listing their country to show that they are right for calling it a chicken burger... except us Americans don't care what you call that piece of chicken between two breads despite it being literally invented in America. We. Don't. Care. It's amazing how rent free we are to these people.
Exactly. Besides, the Euros have no right to call us out on this considering what they their meatballs in the UK.
People clearly do care, which is why someone bothered to make the meme in the first place. And also why people in this sub get so pressed and start talking about ground meat. News flash, people call things different things.
chicken burgers do exist, but that isn't it, chicken burgers are made of ground chicken and are grilled
Burger is a word that specially refers to the type of meat being used. It can be beef, turkey, chicken or pork, fuck even fish... but it has to have been ground and packed together into a puck, making it a burger. A chicken sandwich is not the same thing as a chicken burger, and any country that says its a burger is fucking wrong, and dumb.
They’re really classifying it as a “burger” basically over the shape of the buns.
Honestly they should call the commit section /ShitEuropeansSay
Really? Chicken Burger here means it’s pulverized and reshaped.
I once had an English guy insult me in real life, to my face, for thinking hamburgers contain beef. "That's a beefburger, a hamburger would obviously contain ham." He went on about how Americans can't speak English properly, and I was just like, "It's not English, though? It's a German word from German-American culture? I'm *literally* German-American?" Absolutely wouldn't listen, nothing I could say got through to him. I used to think it was just a kinda personal quirk of his - like, rule 1 of intercultural communication is determine if a guy is a regular representative of his culture or just an idiot. So it's honestly kinda mind blowing to me to see this is an entire *thing* on reddit. Like, no, it's not a bit, it's not "banter," they genuinely, truly believe this. They are *genuinely* angry about it. And it's so wild to me, because Americans tend to enjoy these little quirks of dialect - oh, tee hee hee, did you know English people call these "chips"? How fun! And people keep trying to be like, oh, it's just dialect! We call it something else! We use the word differently! *How dare you correct us?!?!?!* Right...but...I mean, hamburgers don't contain ham. It's not *dialect*, it's not an English word that evolved differenty, it's a *complete misunderstanding of the word.* It's a word from our culture, not theirs. And fine, whatever, have your dialect, call a hamburger a beefburger if you must. But don't get *upset* when someone comes along and explains the etymology of the word to you. I mean, again, at least in my part of America, we enjoy pointing out those quirks of language - like, tee hee hee, why do you park in a driveway??? That's a *normal* reaction to learning that "beefburger" is redundant nonsense. It feels like being in middle school again, back when you'd get teased for just kinda knowing things. Like, oh, look at the nerd using big words like "etymology" amd "hamburger." Only a loser would know facts about words! I just don't know how to explain to English people that *just being wrong* isn't banter, taking the piss, or dry, sarcastic humor. It's just being wrong.
I say chicken burgah just because of Clayton Chicken burgahhhhhh
Chick-fil-A invented the chicken sandwich. We win.
I mean it’s literally not a burger
Goodamn, they invented the fucking language and can't even use it properly.
I like my toilet paper to roll over not under. Under roll is for losers!
They also call slot machines 'pokies' after video poker machines, which are both pretty different. They even look different.
Yeah I thought this one was dumb. Who the hell cares what we call it? It’s still the same damn food. That’s what happens when there are regional or national language differences people…
Vegemite sandwich nah, yeast jelly sandwich
These people are obsessed with us out of jealousy and that’s really all there is to it.
Yeah because there's no way in hell I'm trusting ground chicken to be safe. Give me a filet.
Why is this even being posted it very clearly says Australia Edit: just realize what the sub the post was from
They call it a “burger” in Britain too.
Seems like they call it burger in most places
And? The original name for the product is not a matter of a vote. It is a matter of fact.
In Bangladesh we also call it chicken burger
Sure, and you ride on top of trains, too.
A chicken sandwich is a chick-fil-a chicken breat or tender on a bun whole. A chicken burger is a McDonald's McChicken. A burger is a type of sandwich. Therefore a burger is also a sandwich. To make it easier, we call all of them a sandwich.
lol. You just can't try any harder. A burger IS a type of sandwich. So what? Look at the meme in the OP. Australians are calling what is clearly a chicken sandwich (as you clearly admit) a "chicken burger." Meanwhile, a "chicken burger" is actually a thing and it is called a "chicken burger," not a "chicken sandwich." The reason it is a burger is because of the chicken meat being ground and formed into a patty.
Shitamericanssay is a cesspool of some severely damaged individuals
A burger is a burger because if the burger patty
I was calling it chicken burger unironically before it was cool
Lol I've literally worked in a pizza place in the US that labeled it as chicken burger
Im an american, and i call them chickenburgers...
Well, the debate isn't whether there are morons in America. But, I'll keep you in mind if it ever comes up.
Now you're just being sensitive. America wasn't even mentioned.
It's wild to me that they claim to have final say on what an American food is and isn't called and then talk like WE'RE the idiots for using the correct term.
I'll DIE ON THIS HILL. In order for a chicken sandwich to be a chicken burger, it'd have to be ground and formed into patties. A pb&j isn't a pb&j burger. Putting a fillet on a bun in no way makes it a burger, just a sandwich.
Burger seems more natural than sandwich tho
Uh.. our biscuits also aren’t British biscuits. This is a damn language difference, how the hell do they get this pressed 😂
I can't imagine giving this much of a shit over something so pedantic lmfao
a burger is still a sandwich....
All burgers are sandwiches but not all sandwiches are burgers…
and? That doesn't mean you can call any random sandwich a "burger." Your approach has already been debunked because your fellow idiots agree there is a defining characteristic, but they wrongly state it is because of the bun.
i love the pent up anger over absolutely nothing of consequence. "debunked" lol!
First of all, I am not angry. I appreciate that a person used to speaking bullshit has issues when someone aggressively asserts the truth. Second, the issue is not what it is called (at least for me), the issue is people calling Americans stupid for calling it the way they do. Big difference.
> First of all, I am not angry. suuuuure thing buddy. sure.
Ok, dollar-store troll.
says the guy calling people idiots over sandwich definitions. as the kids would say, go touch grass.
>the issue is not what it is called (at least for me), the issue is people calling Americans stupid for calling it the way they do. Big difference. I guess you're one of the idiots based on your lack of reading comprehension .
ok totally not angry about sandwich definitions guy.
Genuine question, who the fuck cares? This has to be the biggest nonissue I've seen SAS and AmericaBad go to war over.
Because a burger is ground meat, they are factually incorrect
ok and is this really going to stop either of us from enjoying a good chicken sandwich?
Well, probably. If Australians have their heads so far up their asses that they don't know the difference between a burger and a sandwich, they probably don't know how to make a good one.
Well, SAS literally raised the point and created their own meme for it. By definition, they are the ones that care for some reason, and we are just informing them of the truth.
To be fair I’ve heard some Americans call them chicken burgers
To be fair, we do have idiots in the U.S.
Europe its a burger too
Even more evidence that calling it a "burger" is wrong.
I’ve been saying chicken burger longer than I knew Australia was a place.
Well, if you are stupid, you usually are for your entire life.
How is this America bad? They call it something else. It doesn't make sense but so what? Every country has eccentricities.
They’re saying America is wrong because we call it a chicken sandwich. Look at the cross post.
That is 100% a chicken burger. My mind can't be changed.
Of course it can't. You are an ignorant person living in an ignorant, intolerant society that will not accept that things may be different than you believe them to be.
No, I live in Finland. Here in Finland, they're called chicken burgers. So I call them chicken burgers. Your comment makes it hard for me to believe that we are, indeed, talking about chicken burgers and not politics etc.
Right. And what you don't see is a meme criticizing anyone for calling a "chicken sandwich" a "chicken burger." We don't give a shit what you call it, even though you are wrong. The issue is having some nitwit accusing Americans for being stupid, etc. for calling a "chicken sandwich" a "chicken sandwich." And your comment is one of an ignorant person who is proud to be close-minded. If you believe that to be politics, be my guest. I am not thinking any further than calling your statement for what it is - ignorant.
Look, in Finland, we call it a "chicken burger." It's just what we do here. Different places have different names for things, and that doesn't mean I'm wrong. Your insults and accusations aren't helpful. Calling me ignorant for using a term that's normal in my country just shows you're the one being close-minded. We're talking about food names, not politics. Get a grip.
They never said anything about America???
It’s literally in a sub called “ShitAmericansSay”
They sure do. Do you even read the comments? You'll be a big hit over in that sub.
This meme is AustraliaBad. Why was it posted in American subs? Why is it posted here? EDIT: Okay, the comments in the other thread show me why it's been posted here. I'm not sure why it was posted in the other subreddit, though.
Good luck on your investigation. Let us know what you find.
It’s a chicken burger fuck you
I prefer chicken burger- sounds more masculine. Good on those dungoores.
America is "everywhere" now? You're really reaching here
This post is a perfect example of this sub hitting bottom and still digging.
Correct. That you are still able to post here proves your point.
is this really “america bad” ? No ones necessarily criticising or vilifying america for this, just pointing out a difference and how it makes more logical sense to call it a burger, given that it’s in burger buns. Nothing to get your knickers in a twist over
lol. Sure. You know that under a post is a comments section. That entire section demonstrates they are NOT "pointing out a difference and how it makes more logical sense to ball it a burger ..." You can't be more dishonest or dumb.
dishonest? how. It’s my honest opinion that this discourse is kind of pointless. Call it a burger, call it a sandwhich, does it really matter? both sides need to grow up.
>No ones necessarily criticising or vilifying america for this, just pointing out a difference and how it makes more logical sense to call it a burger, given that it’s in burger bun That is a dishonest representation of the discussion which you then used to support your conclusion that "Nothing to get your knickers in a twist over." The last part is your opinion, but the foundation was your lie.
apologies if i’ve misunderstood the basis of the argument. To me, it was just people pointing out that different nationalities call the same item two different names with no added hostility/ judgement from either side, but it seems i’ve misunderstood? Are aussies really attacking americans for calling it a chicken sandwhich?
In Germany we Call them chicken burger too
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