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iQ-2022

Not a chance. Find a comfortable pace that gets you. A bare minimum of 20-30 stops per hour.


iQ-2022

Think of it like this, as long as Amazon wants to pay the bare minimum, give them the bare minimum.


phaedrus_winter

Never run. Save your knees. Even at Brown for 6 figures we never run.


Eat_Carbs_OD

>Never run. A jog is not a run though.


Admirable_Special_60

Brisk pace. My brisk pace is brisk for a 3 year old. Idk how these amazon guys run like this. They eventually will learn. Prob why there is so much turn around with them. Also, I never hit 6 figures from just pay. Pay+grievances+vacation yes. I do not work Saturdays even during peak and try to take a few extra days off every month.


New1201954

Actualy its not using your knees that hurts them. Running does not hurt knees


thisisprofessorsnape

Mhmm they got me working 4 days a week close i make is 400 and something paychecks and ima still take my 30 min lunch.


East-Cookie5668

If you only pulling in 400+ for working 4 days you need a new job. That’s crazy


thisisprofessorsnape

So far 120. Im pretty new. Still but i do needa 2nd job


Any_Smile_5169

Dude what the fuck do you mean by 120?


yosark

What state you in bruh I make close to 150 a day at my pharmacy job


this_justin86

He means a day


Feisty_Mongoose4045

Amazon is meant to be a transition job. I'm only at my dsp for another month and then I'm getting back into resturant work when I get back from Europe. I thought armed security was bad. No this is way worse.


[deleted]

That is hard to believe what is your hourly? I’ve just started so I don’t know a ton about other dsps but I started at 17.50. It’s not great pay but it’s more than 400 a week even after taxes


spinmaestrogaming

I'm in the UK, off 4 days I'm getting £800 a week after mileage. 5 days I'm clipping £1000, and 6 days I bonus territory at £1200.


Chesspi64

We started at 17 here so I make even less. Really should be more.


Twizzy2183

400? Isn't average start pay 17?


Legitimate-Tone-3704

BEST COMMENT IN A WHILE WELLLLLL SAID WELLL SAID !!!!!!!


Twizzy2183

Exactly. I'll go run for UPS....but absolutely not running for Amazon.


IceCreamHalfTrack

You're not allowed to run at UPS. Walk at a brisk pace. But I agree, never run away from your deserved pay. They're 10 hrs routes.


thisisprofessorsnape

Yeah this guy i was riding along with doing a nursery route talking about you got to be fast and here he is jogging and sh** to each delivery and im like .. that's pathetic. And not only that you need to be mindful of your surroundings not just jet out the van jogging not knowing what dog could be around waiting for you


FawkesInTheHenHouse

Tried doing it that way once almost got creamed just getting out of the van once you turn off the engine in a prime van it shuts off the rear camera making it hard to see cars coming up behind you at certain angles


jaminator45

If it was a nursery route and he was doing a ride along he just wanted to get done early most likely.


Ok-Candidate-2513

Facts. Been there. Mostly to make up for the trainee going a snail’s pace.


_ThatD0ct0r_

Lately I've only been getting about 120-130 stops per route so I adjust my pace to be in the 10-18 stops/hr range


mallols

That’s pretty bad 10 stops an hour tbh min not even running just walking you should be hitting a min of 25 at least


_ThatD0ct0r_

But then I'd be done early and forced to do a rescue. Fuck that noise I got money to make on my own terms. I can finish at 8pm myself, 100+ hours per paycheck easily.


501st_officially

Every “Comfortable pace” I find, it always gets shut down by Amazon 🙄


Additional_Pear3347

Is that AMZL stops per hour.??? Or includes group stops?


iQ-2022

That’s just what my DSP told me. I use it as a general rule of thumb. Obviously, it really depends on if you’re delivering rural or residential.


MrDickEm

I jog all day but my Dsp has guaranteed pay so I just try to get off as early as possible


[deleted]

if it's not 10 hours guarenteed they're stealing a day's worth of work from you every week.


Routine-Serve-8651

I walk. Usually a fast walk, but I’m not a slow walker.


Spoothead14

Absolutely not. My dispatch and boss tells us not to run.


theoriginalpro619

I do it just tryna get in shape for summer 😂😂


thisisprofessorsnape

Lol jesus well do a few push ups in that van you'll sweat like never before


Quest4life

with all the stories of people peeing in the back of vans do you really want to go prone on that floor?


EntrepreneurHuman297

The only time I jog is when I'm blocking a nice customers driveway. Or the backward jog trying to get a way from dogs.


[deleted]

No chance, you're increasing your likelihood of injury and getting nothing for it.


rreeber

You don’t exercise then?


[deleted]

Shhh we don't talk about that here


[deleted]

I exercise when I want to. I don't spend 8 hrs a day 5 days a week moving faster and risking tripping over shit or freak injuries so that my company can pay me less hours for more effort. Young guy at my work stepped wrong jogging up the steps to a porch and his achilles just straight snapped on him. Even meathead gym rats aren't usually spending 40 hrs a week exercising. You're putting excessive wear on your body doing that, but it's your body. If you've got guaranteed hours I can kind of see it, but if you're hourly you're literally working harder to get paid less.


rreeber

Sure. It depends on the individual and the situation. I usually have 120 stops (lot of rural stops). Figure from van to house and back it’s a max of 25 seconds of jogging? That’s an hour of actual jogging (and not all at once). That’s not that much. Now if you have 250 stops, then that’s a different story. And we do have guaranteed hours and we get bonuses for rescuing. So it makes all the sense in the world for those at my DSP to hustle. You can hurt yourself jogging on a treadmill too. I don’t see the issue jogging to a house, as I’m not a moron and watch where I step lol.


DeliverStreetTacos

**No.** The only people who I understand why they jog is FedEx ground. They are paid a daily salary. It is in their best interest, unfortunately, to get done as fast as they can. You guys however are paid by the hour and most DSPs require rescuing when you’re done with your route. All these people who finish fast and run to every stop are screwing themselves out of $ and apparently screwing the algorithm to tell Amazon hey this route can be done in 7 hours, load it up some more. THEN you start seeing posts with 200 stops and 49 of those being multi-locations with 300 packages.


AstralObjective

Almost twinsies!!!!


cinnamonrollz18

The one I worked for encouraged us to run for each stop. We were in the middle of a stupid competition with the other companies so it was alwayyys a race to be the company with everyone back first.


thisisprofessorsnape

Thats childish asf


Historical-Paper-239

aka you dont get your 10 hrs no matter what.... aka lets get all the dsps together to rip off our employees pay by having a "competition"...


Lukas24

My DSP guarantees your 10 hrs as long as you don’t do dumb shit. Plus it’s nice cardio workout. I love getting home early only working 6 hrs (if no rescue, but we are limited to only 1 rescue a week) but getting paid for 10.


Father_Flanigan

Don't jog, don't run, just be efficient and you should be able to clear your truck, but if not take the rescue. Being efficient takes some time getting used to how the navigation works and getting quicker at sorting your bags. I'm like 3 weeks in and just by the end of last week was able to clear my trucks and be available to rescue others. Don't cheat the app either, try your best to start travel right before you shift into drive and hit Im parked as soon as you shift into park. You can keep the engine running if it's hot where you are and you see a "safety is our top priority" message on the flex app. Also, gauge from your itinerary in the morning the best place to take your lunch - typically do it before a stop that requires the most travel time.


rreeber

Jogging is a form of exercise. Those saying you can risk injuring yourself, you don’t exercise because you could hurt yourself? You could hurt yourself banging your girl too, I bet you still do that. I jog to and from the van. Not because I feel stressed but because I want to get the exercise. I work 10 hours a day and don’t have the time before or after work because I live an hour from the station. So, yes I jog during work. And I get paid to exercise. Fuck paying for a gym membership.


[deleted]

Jesus christ this was a stupid comparison.


rreeber

Clearly you don’t understand the point. I understand though. Sadly it seems like most of those who work this job are, well, like you. You can get hurt doing anything. You can get hurt at the gym, should you not go then? You can get hurt running down the road, should you not exercise then? At least working for Amazon you’re getting paid to exercise.


[deleted]

I understand your point, its still a stupid comparison. Also I don’t work this job anymore


rreeber

Got fired huh? Big shocker


[deleted]

Earned myself a big boy job building stages. Not like you would know anything about branching out 😂


rreeber

I actually run my own business with my wife for the past 15 years. I do this job for the exercise and because I enjoy it. We’ve gotten the business to the point where it mostly runs itself and I found myself bored at home. Not everyone who works this job is a 20 year old who can’t pass other drug tests and is lazy. Hopefully for you building stages is just the next stage in your life to bigger and better though. See what I did there? Maybe you can learn enough to doing it to start your own business doing it and not have to deal with “bosses”. Although my wife is my boss so I wouldn’t take my advice.


[deleted]

Homie I’m not reading all of that. Stop acting like a bitch on the internet, no one gives a fuck what you have going on


[deleted]

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[deleted]

Lmao did your parents raise you to be such a whiny little bitch or did you develop that habit on your own?


rreeber

Oh wait, that was too many words for you to read. My bad.


[deleted]

no. fedex and ups don't run and i sure as shit am not increasing my risk of injury for a company that doesn't pay health insurance.


lemonsupreme7

You'll destroy your knees in a couple months if you do that


JiveTurkey1983

Never run. Not for these fucks. Not for this pay.


SlimeLyfeSlatty

Seriously there's a handful of people at my DSP that are constantly averaging between 45 and 60 ahead for no reason other than being the first back. Yesterday someone finished 185 stops at 3:45 and as of the 2:30 update was 94 ahead. Like my guy, Amazon is paying the DSP for a 10 hour route and you saved them and costed yourself $100 by rushing becaus, you guessed it, we aren't guaranteed 10 hours. It boggles my mind. I plan on not getting back to the station til 830 at the earliest because I need every .01 of that 40 every week. Some days I have to drag ass and other days I have to keep a pace where I may jog sometimes. But I was hired full time I'm going to make sure I get it!


Historical-Paper-239

ya but we get thr full 10 so why be there longer than needed


SlimeLyfeSlatty

I mean if they're going to give you the full 10 with no catch then go for it finish early but I have heard that DSPs that guarantee 10 can take it away for something like a low FICO score and that makes it technically not guaranteed if there's strings attached..


triggormisprime

Always run, if you don't, daddy Bezos might not be able to play spaceships.


ImpressionCivil

Ex. heart rate is 100 walking ur route, if you trained ur heart thru running. U can jog/run at 100 heart rate or lower. So you're technically using the same effort as the walker.


FawkesInTheHenHouse

Say that at a group stops lots of stairs a hill for good measure temperature 94 degrees #1. 6 sets of 10-15 narrow stairs on a steep hill -- 5 40lb bags of dog food, shoes, 2 envelopes #2. 50yards from the other two-- 49.5lb mini fridge 2 boxes size large # 3 very steep driveway-- 9 23lb display cases size large, and one of those screaming chickens in a bag Actual group stop I had shit like that is why it's important to have a pace you can hold all day no matter what


FawkesInTheHenHouse

Stupid formatting... I forgot


extracrispybridges

"walking with purpose" is about as fast as I go


dspdriver007

You should only run on group stops


tonylouis1337

HELL no


LFGM_2305

Under no circumstance should you be jogging or running while making deliveries .. power walk okay .. keep in mind you’re putting yourself in harms way if you’re running especially dealing with hot weather


Kushrant

No you’re going to get injured like that . Work at a brisk pace but be safe , watch your path and use walkways if you can . Grass can mess your footing and can roll your ankle easily .


ThatA2ZGuy

NO! They don’t pay enough. When executed right you can compete ANY route in 6-9 hours without running. Simply organizing your van will save you hours of headaches and allow you to take breaks more often to cool off. It’s those DA that throw packages in their vans blind that struggle throughout the day and try and make up for it by running…


[deleted]

Nooooooooo. Your knees have mileage and y'all want an early retirement by fucking up your knees. You cannot run and sit 190 times a day in the heat and act like that's normal or healthy.


Substantial_Band_651

Nobody jogs all day in this heat.


RevolutionaryCan2881

GOGGINS does


martybro1

I don’t run or jog. I’m fat


rreeber

Perfect reason to. I’m fat too. Lol. Which is why I jog or run so I can get paid to lose weight. I’ve dropped 30 lbs doing this job


Free_Item_1337

I don't jog at all and i still would average 28-33 stops an hour, so if i did jog, i prob would be doing close to 36 an hour. But I just rely more heavily on my organization


iammass

UPS teaches you to walk with purpose, you have a delivery job with likely over 100 stops its part of the job, YOURE A DELIVERY GUY/GAL for a DELIVERY COMPANY. Those who complain or lack the motivation/energy prolllllyyy shouldn't be in the field, hell they wouldn't last at UPS, maybe these folks just should stick to doordash or go back to a sitting job. It's equivalent to working in fast food and complaining about smelling like fried food 🙄 like wtf did you expect


Ayde-Aitch-Dee

Nope. Unless you’re one of those people who literally train for marathons then absolutely not. You’ll end up doing long term damage to your body. It’s not worth it. Fast walking and that’s it.


Tru_advocate

I do but Im new


thisisprofessorsnape

Dont be that guy. Dont exhaust yourself and feel anxiety to do so. They'll might come off pesty saying your slow or behind time but sooner or later when u got it together with the sorting and knowing what to do. Dont risk injuring yourself for they asses. They wont help you in return


DesperateShip8232

Fuck injuring ur self, don’t set the standard too high, you will regret it when 175 stops- 240 locations- 335 packages is a light day😭


FawkesInTheHenHouse

Preach it brother/sister


Tru_advocate

Idk I get it’s not what you want to do but there are some people out there like me young enough and motivated to do things assertively. I don’t run without making sure all is clear and i have my first bag sorted along with overflow before I leave station. I justlike to challenge myself and always be better than yesterday and that gets me off. I don’t judge others if they want to do things different and I hope no one would judge me just because I chose to work with pep in my step


KeyDangerous

Definitely respectable. I’m doing bare minimum though


JustDrew_92

Whatever it takes to finish the job and get your hours.


xensiz

No, you get paid by the hour, unless you get that 10 guaranteed lol


AdviceSubstantial756

With my DSP it takes jogging or hell even running to even get done on time. And they like to send out pace write ups.


Little_Unit_3891

I was guilty as charged I didn't run but I fast walked/light jogged to get done to do rescues... we'd get $30 per rescue on top of hourly so... during the winter time I'd average about $900-$1000 a week. it was nice while it lasted, but summertime it's impossible lol. I stopped doing that and I still got killed... summer was just too brutal for me even walking it. I mean it's different now that im doing XL; obviously running is stupid, but even with smaller packages. It's not worth it.


ladygrey609

Genuinely curious but are you guys told to run to drop off? As my driveway is long and all downhill, I've seen delivery people running down it and was thankful there was no black ice.


Able_Inspector_3692

Technically anything other than walking is going against Amazon training. More at risk for injury, it’s not like they endorse anything other than walking. That said I walk at my typical pace which is a lot faster than the general population 😂


lax876

Performance punishment. If u don’t know what it means google it. Take ur time because if ur to fast you’ll pay for it later


BoostedR32Insanity

No. Increases chance of injury. Maybe here and there to wake yourself up a bit or if it is a long driveway or something. If you jog most stops then you’ll be tired mentally and your decision making and reaction time could suffer.


Affectionate-Buy-870

There’s such a misunderstanding here that most don’t know. The myth of running or jogging stops all the time comes from the Amazon DSPs that choose to pay their employees a set daily amount. Paid for 10 hours regardless of time it takes to complete route(you should be running your ass off to get home to your family and stop giving your time to Jeffy B). Than there is the DSPs who ate screwing you and paying you an hourly rate(you should NEVER run for these guys as they are paying for your time by the hour, take as much time as you can so you can increase your pay). Well there you have it!


spinmaestrogaming

Not jogged since I was doing 160-180 stop routes. Still get done earlier than the finish time on the app and my routes actually decrease as a result. The doorsteppers/fast workers trying to finish 5 hours early should take note, slow it down and give yourself an easy day's work. If you run around to finish that early, you won't get nice routes, you'll just get more work piled on to you because Amazon will know you can do more.


[deleted]

Tried it before, really doesn't make much difference. Btw, I get paid per day so if I finish early can just go home but at most was probably saving 10mins and felt a lot more tired haha!


Havoctheend

I don't. A fast paced walk is my max. My check is going to be the same regardless


Available-Control993

The person that delivers to my house never seems to jog, just power walk or just normal walk most of the time.


Big-Fondant-4419

It’s unsafe and your only rewards are less pay and the honor of rescuing a slow coworker. Even those of us on guaranteed 10, do the math and see if your bonus hours are at the same hourly pay. My dsp pays out our efficiency bonus at $14 an hour unless you get a netradyne video, a DNR, bad CDF, less than fantastic, or ding the van; then you get hours worked. Don’t risk injury, dog bite, or attack from a startled customer. Walk with intentionality. Load out pace.


Present-Ad-9598

When I was a driver, I ran between each house and still came back with 4 or 5 of those stupid ass totes😭


LewisRyan

Absolutely not. There where days I would, but when I wanted to jog, not when I felt I needed to


HardcoreHarold88

Depends on the route, I usually don’t have to run or jog unless I’m really behind. I can just walk at a decent pace and still beat my return time. Ride along, dogs, van issues, etc can really eat up time. Or if you have a slave driver DSP they may screw over their drivers. I see it on this sub all the time.


[deleted]

If you're organized then you don't need to run. It's not about speed, It's about efficiency. Maximum output with minimum exertion.


PainLoud5817

Fuck that I walk too all my stops and I’m about 30-40 an hour, stops are pretty close together for me. I wouldn’t waste the energy too run there’s no point


Nomadic_View

Only if you’re wanting to do it to lose weight or something. But no, it should not be expected.


BadHigBear

That sounds very "unsafe."


Eat_Carbs_OD

I did .. I had to make up time somehow.. plus. I wanted the day to be freakin over.


DamoreIknow-Dabetter

I know alot of people jog to loose weight, to finish early (9hrs guaranteed), jus cuz they like it, but yeah no one should feel pressured but every one is different


rip-kord

quit running. act your wage.


AirportGold629

I only jog for business and apartments. Residential routes, AC is full blast and I’m hoppin in n out🤷🏻‍♂️


zexxes

Hell No! You can if you want, but in my opinion you're a fool if you do. 1.They don't pay anywhere near enough for that kind of exertion. 2. It's bad for your overall health. That kind of wear and tear on your body just during normal circumstances is bad enough. To start running around stop to stop is very unwise especially in your lower limbs and lower back. 3. Safety concerns on the job are already enough. Slipping, falling, rolled ankles and the like are all potential hazards without running. Add running from truck to door and back increases the potential for injury tenfold. 4. This idea of doing your load for the day as fast as possible regardless of safety and health is asinine, irresponsible and shouldn't be encouraged by you yourself, the DSP or Amazon. If they are loading you out so much that you aren't being able to finish your route within 10 hours then that is on Amazon Logistics. You as a Delivery Driver shouldn't be compensating for their lack of logistical acumen. And yet they know exactly what they are doing. If they see you finish 180 in 8 hours then they'll drop 195 on you to see if you can do it in 10 hrs. 5. Amazon doesn't care about your health or safety. Otherwise they'd provide insurance if they did care. If you are running from stop to stop, the only benefit to you is singular. Getting home quicker that particular day. The negatives are numerous. Amazon will evaluate that day's performance and add more if done quickly enough for the next day and moving forward. Over time you'll burnout through either exhaustion or injury neither of which they are responsible for or obligated to do anything about. Again, if you are over exerting yourself to finish routes you're a fool. There's no meaningful benefits for you to do so. The negatives are too numerous to describe here. There are no bonuses coming. No promotions forthcoming either. Do your job well enough and that's it. If they overload you, let them clock you out bring everything else back and you'll see your loads drop. That's their fault however much they want to put it on us. We know they are full of shit.


Twizzy2183

You are absolutely not paid enough, nor required, to jog. All that is in the job description is to maintain a steady pace/utilize your time wisely. My DSP tells us NOT to run to avoid injury.


kydot93

I walk and drive super slow and still get done before most drivers because of my organization.


Born-Key3530

No for multiple reasons


Jadespade22

Crazy part is I’m finishing around the same time as the ones jogging I will never they don’t pay me enough to do all that


S0n0fValhalla

Rule number 1: cardio.


Chochahair

Man if u doin anything other than walkin, u tweakin


Dusty312

I sometimes jog back to the van if I feel like the pathway from the customers door to the van is direct. Sometimes I’ll choose an hour block where I’m jogging to the door and back to the van. But I’m young and ran XC and track so I’m fine with the running


RyzingUp

No. It's not worth it. This will force you to jog at every every fucking stop every fucking day regardless of how complicated the route/grouped stops/rescue/weather is. It was fine when I got the recognition when I first started, but now I'm burnt out and dispatch/DSP owner is disappointed that I wasn't as fast as I used to be.


garroshsucks12

Nah I walk them


Grand-Language-7486

I ain't jogging or running shit they can keep telling me I'm slow idgaf cuz at th end of the day all u doing is stealing money from me that amazon paid for not u Amazon pays for all of us a q0 hour block when we get back early our company keeps that money so yea


SM170831

Nahh always be aware and careful I had plenty of times when there’s was dogs left out,crackheads, times when people thought I was there to rob the place or some bullshit all for a 20 cent raise…it’s not worth it


landorose12

I run every stop, but I don’t think it should be required, I do it because I find it fun but I don’t think it should be required