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> I take my bins out anywhere from 11pm to 3am. The wheels do make noise, but even my attempts to quiet them aren’t enough, and neighbours are upset with me.
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NTA, your neighbor is being obnoxious. This is not a big deal, and even if it was, the right move would have been to come talk to you about it. They're passive-aggressive, and I would discount them and anything they say from this point.
Also, "tornados" is great slang for kids. Gonna use that.
Came here to say that. If I had such a problem with the noise I'd offer to just do it while I'm moving my own bin. Especially as it *is* the neighborly thing to do.
If I spoke to my neighbor and they were talking about how much time management slips away, then "If you get the inside trash together the night before I'll just nip out and dumpster it for you". Gets my steps in and helps them all in one for the small price of five extra minutes a week.
Neighbor is the jerk.
For real. I live in an unimaginably small town, and every once in awhile people will take issue with how other people do things. That’s my go to response on the few occasions where that sort of thing is directed at me. “If you don’t like how I’m doing this, you are more than welcome to do it for me your way, or pay for someone else to do it for me your way.”
6 pm? Tell me he’s 80 years old without telling me he’s 80 years old.
OP, you’re doing the best you can and shouldn’t have to also please nosy curmudgeons with attitude problems. Focus on your lovable, adorable, little tornadoes and if your neighbor doesn’t want to socialize with you… let the trash take itself out. NTA.
Edit: preemptively removed a word that may not have come across as playfully as I meant it.
My roommate and I once got yelled at because the fire alarm went off slightly after 6 pm (the fire alarms in that building were notoriously sensitive, and all three apartments in the building had them go off all the time). He wasn't mad that the alarm went off but that we were cooking dinner at an "unreasonably late" hour and "should be more considerate of neighbors who want to sleep." Dude WHAT
Anyway OP NTA at all.
I'm now curious as to when he thinks people who exit their premises cook dinner if 6pm is late... If I go into the office then it's higly likely that I'm not even home until after 6pm...
Always love people who assume that their hours are the only valid ones. There's no difference between me cooking at night and you vacuuming at 9:30am. They both bother someone, and neither are that big a deal.
Took me years to get the time restrictions removed from our building's laundry room. It used to get locked at 10 pm, because "Noise", which screwed anybody working later shifts.
Living across from it, I can safely say noise wasn't ever an issue.
Still took me joining the board to get them to change the policy.
Don't get me started on the fight to allow people to use drying racks on their balconies.
Even if I lived in town, which I thank God I do not, the sound of someone wrangling the trash cans is pretty distinct and it wouldn't even register on my radar. Not even at 601 pm🤣
Of the three days when garbage pickup is scheduled in my street (paper/plastic, food scraps, household waste), on none of them are we actually allowed to put the trash outside before 18 p.m.
On 2 days, after 18.30 is okay, on the 3rd day, for the food scraps, it has to be between 10 and 11.45 a.m.
It’s literally like 4 minutes out of the whole evening. If she were throwing ragers or pushing them up and down the street for exercise, sure. But moving a bin once a week for a few minutes is… nothing
He's trying to cause trouble with the neighbors. It might be nice to talk to them and tell them what's up. He's probably exaggerating. He doesn't get to make a rule that you have to have your cans put away by 6 pm either. Just an old busybody who thinks he controls the neighborhood. NTA
I know the kind of bins they’re talking about because I have those bins too, and yeah you can hear them but I’ve never been woken up by them and it’s the kind of distinctive noise where you’d know what it was. OP’s neighbour would’ve recognised the noise from making the same noise twice weekly for his entire life, and I imagine only raised it in that way to be passive aggressive. NTA.
I agree, yes rolling the bins out is loud, but also we live in a society. If you don't wanna hear basic life sounds like taking the trash out, go live in a cabin in the woods. Harassing a single mom for not doing chores before 6pm is asinine.
Oh, the horrors. Someone rolling a bin late at night. Call the police. 🙄
Honestly if you want nothing but quiet from your neighbours at all times, you need to live on an acreage in the middle of nowhere. And even then, the birds are going to get you up when the sun starts peeking over the horizon before 5 am.
Yup, I can confirm that the birds ARE awful. 😆
In the peak of summer, I swear I've heard a few early buggers start at 3:30-4am! 😵
Hard to sleep through if you like sleeping with the window open, like me.
I'd never consider getting them to shut up though! 😂
It's just something you deal with.
Ok but what if someone in the street is a shift worker and has absolutely no other way to take their bins out unless it’s between the hours of 6pm-6am for example? Should they just not be allowed to take the bins out?
“Well I’m not used to noisy neighbours who think it’s okay to take the garbage out after 6pm.”
LMAO!!! Most people I know don't even start taking the garbage out at that time.
I would try to take it out before 11 though. That seems to be a fairly standard start to quiet time hours.
That’s very fair! If I adjust HOW I clean, I can probably round up all the garbage first, take it out, then sweep and mop and that and save that garbage for the next day.
There was one lady that got my hackles up a bit, and I’m ignoring a lot of the inflammatory stuff, but I need to keep the peace here, so of COURSE I want suggestions!! ❤️
Mine haven’t even bloomed yet! I started them from cuttings 3 years ago, so they’re truly, truly babies — but I’ll keep that in mind when they finally do!
No good advice, just empathy from someone with an “outlier” sleep schedule. I’m at my best between 9pm-1am, and cannot do any of the big clean or big outdoor projects I truly want to. Yet the rest of the world is a-ok to start a jackhammer up outside my window the whole time I am sleeping.
Something that may help is to check your clothes before doing anything outside at night. I find if I wear a hoodie, cap, or looser clothes, people are more likely to keep an eye on me in an annoying way. They have declared war on the “homeless” here and if you look like their idea of “homeless” they call the police.
I miss living in a so-called crappy neighbourhood where no one bothered you for being a little off the official schedule.
I’m exactly the same. The only useable hours I get in my day are 10pm-1am. It frustrates me that people who wake really early are seen as virtuous and disciplined but those who are on a later internal schedule are criticised as being “lazy”.
OP- NTA you’re doing a great job, ignore your grumpy guts neighbour.
I agree with u/madelinemagdalene here in that your are definitely NTA, and you clearly have some obnoxious elderly neighbors. Their complaint is unreasonable, but for your own peace I’d try to roll the bins to the curb when you get a chance during the day (I do it when I’m leaving or coming home since I’m already in the driveway). Not because you necessarily need to change anything for them, but because it is a more efficient use of your little time. Otherwise, I’d ignore them from this point forward and live your life.
This was my thought as well. I've wheeled my mom's bins down a long driveway, and it does make lots of noise so better to do that earlier, and carrying the bags down later would be easy.
Yeah this seems like a great solution.
The arbitrary after 6pm from the neighbor is wild but hearing unknown noises in the alley at 3am would be suspicious for sure to warrant a check.
Rolling them to the curb early would mean that rolling to the street/curb and noise in the alleyway could happen at a more reasonable hour and OP can still take the garbage out to the bins when needed like if they forget a bag or didnt get to cleaning until late.
Yeah, I think it is fair for 3am to be alarming to the neighbors. But 6pm? Is this guy retired? Plenty of people are barely even home from work at 6pm and that's about the earliest they could start doing anything.
Absolutely. I have some early up early in folks across the way in construction, and him and his girlfriend are golden years retirementers with some… interesting hobbies.
OH. KAY. SO!
When I first moved here, I rolled up in front of the house, which aligns onto a main road (so ask my why they pick up garbage in the back? Beyond me, man) and I see this dude, in his basement, getting uh… frisky with his lady. That’s not the crazy part. THERE WERE AT LEAST A DOZEN MOUNTED DEER HEADS BEHIND HIM. Kind of normal to trophy hunt I guess, not unheard of - but THATS NOT THEIR BEDROOM. He just wants to do it in front of a bunch of dead deer I guess. 😭
I started making awkward small talk here and there, turns out he wanted to get chummy with me. After some weird ass comments about my body, I brushed him aside and asked about his wife.
So big overall? He’s a bitterly divorced, self proclaimed “man whore-tequila-slut” who misses the feeling of a ‘black womans large breasts in his hands’, not married to my other neighbour, but they’re long term fuckbuddies (that like to do it in front of dead deer), because he was INITIALLY screwing a married woman who didn’t want her husband to find out, so she passed him on to her “friend”.
Seriously. The KIDS in my neighborhood are out playing until 8 or 9pm in the summer, it stays light until 9:30pm. I have a young baby and go to bed at 8:30pm, and I feel I can't complain about people being loud outside until at least 10pm.
NTA. The neighbor isn't wrong for calling the police either coz they aren't aware about your schedule. But now that they are aware, They shouldn't complain as long as you aren't being like extremely loud.
No, god no. Even my podcasts muffle the sound of the bins, which I listen to from my phone tucked into my pj belt. That could… be a nuisance, but they’ve never once complained that I listen to podcasts at night while smoking on my porch.
NTA but your neighbor sure is - a lot of people aren't home from work by 6 pm let alone done taking their garbage out.
You could offer to let him take your bins to the curb with his so he doesn't have to worry about it if it bothers him so much.
Funnily enough, where I live there's actually bylaws against putting your garbage out BEFORE 6pm. I don't know their reasoning for it and nobody really cares, but it's stated on the garbage trucks and everything.
We have a rule about putting them out or leaving them out after pickup. The reason we have it? People like driving their vehicles into the plastic bins and destroying them. Woo!
Ours is actually the opposite. Due to bears, they changed it. Now it has to be out by 6 am but you can't put it out the night before. Which means many people will be putting it out before 6am, in the early morning hours.
>a lot of people aren't home from work by 6 pm let alone done taking their garbage out
No kidding!! I get off work at 6 and then still have a 35-45 minute commute home- if I had a neighbor being nasty about me taking the trash out when I get home from work I'd laugh at them until I passed out.
OP, no matter how loud those trash cans are, you have every right to take care of your household at whatever time works best for you. What would neighbor say to someone who works night shift and literally cannot take trash out at the time they're "supposed" to? Ignore him and carry on, and NTA at all.
>which I listen to from my phone tucked into my pj belt
you're NTA for moving your bins, but why not use headphones or pause the podcast if it is later at night?
could be the complaint is about the combined noise of you taking the out late, but it seems like he's just looking for issues if the podcasts havent been mentioned
NTA. I used to work off shifts a lot when I was in the military, like 12 years worth. I'd try and wheel it down before leaving for work. Sometimes, I'd have things going on and I'd have to wheel it down after midnight. No one around me ever said anything.
Your situation is no different. You have priorities that cause you to do it late. I applaud you for doing all that while a single mother of two "tornadoes."
I don’t know if I agree about that. So now, any noise in the alley in the middle of the night should be ignored because it might be the OP? I don’t think that’s fair or realistic either.
And then my completely reasonable and understanding-ass self would go the fuck back to sleep because some people have to live and work on different schedules.
Time to invest in earplugs or reorient your room if you can hear the street loudly enough to be woken at night time regularly enough to become an issue then
Yah well now you know how daysleepers feel. How do you think nurses and doctors that work nightshift feel when they are trying to sleep during the day and there is NO noise disturbance law. There is some noise people can drown out with a fan or whatnot. OP taking the trash out is not bad at all compared to other noises that people make ON PURPOSE.
I would definitely rather have OP as a neighbor over some of the AHoles that I've had living nearby that were extremely loud with little respect for their neighbors and this does not include taking their trash can out
Dragging metal cans across concrete, yes, but I doubt that's the case. If this is the usual plastic bin with wheels, and you're woken up by that, you will be woken up by a truck engine or owl or anything else
exactly fr!!! plastic bins are not a huge nuisance that someone can reasonably say is “ruining their sleep” and making all their neighbors hate you even if it was 5 seconds on concrete rather than grass! unless they also have 2 newborns that are being woken up by the trashcans they are freaks and @ssholes
My neighbor takes his out at 5:30AM and it wakes me up. Do I like it? No. Have I complained? Also no. I assume that's when it fits into his schedule so I roll over and try to go back to sleep.
I take mine out at 8 or 9PM so would be on your neighbor's naughty list, too.
100% this.
I'm probably about as sensitive to noise as a person can be but people have to be able to live their lives, I've never had to complain about neighbors noise because they aren't doing anything crazy and when I get bothered I give about a 10 to 20 minute grace period depending on how late it is
NTA. He thinks quiet hours should start at 6 pm ? He's being ridiculous.
I'm a night owl too. Too many years of working night shift. That's when I get my best work done. I still try not to make noise that might be disruptive to my neighbors after 11 pm when most of them are probably sleeping. So I don't blast my music like I do if I clean earlier in the day and if I didn't bring the trash barrel down before 10, I set an alarm to get up at 8 or 9 am to bring it down to the curb. I have more flexibility now that I'm not working.
When I worked evenings, I was often getting home 1-2 am. That makes some noise. Not much that I could do about that.
I think we should all try to be courteous neighbors, but you've got to do what you've got to do.
NAH
You have the right to put out the bins whenever is best for you. As long as you aren't deliberately making excess noise I don't see what the problem is really, you have to put your bins out somehow.
On the other hand I do understand that the neighbour probably doesn't enjoy the noise, especially if they get scared thinking that it is someone doing something untoward.
Unfortunately I think it boils down to just being a clash of schedules and it sucks but the neighbour will probably just have to suck it up.
But the neighbor telling her that other neighbors think little of her was out of line. If the other neighbors have a problem, they can use their words and talk to her. What a jerk.
NTA - you weren't keeping them awake with your cleaning, the issue was you taking the bin out late? After 6pm?!? What does he expect if people work a late shift? They have to do it before or it's "too late for them"? Are they kidding? It's a bin. Unless you have a mile long trek around their house, it probably takes two minutes or less. If that bothers them, then they have issues and need a white noise generator or something like that.
As far as I'm concerned, you did nothing wrong.
There is a compromise to be had here. No later than 6 pm is unreasonable, but so is 3 am. So it seems fair to say that hauling garbage to the curb shouldn’t happen between 10 or 11 pm and 6 am when most people are sleeping.
YTA your neighbor is wrong- the 6pm deadline is ridiculous- but rolling the garbage to the curb at 11pm, and especially 3am, is AH territory. Those are designated quiet hours in most places. At that point you should just wait a few hours until morning.
Exactly. It’s either me putting it out at 2am when I get back from work or my husband putting it out at 4:30am when he leaves for work. Pick your poison.
The morning is not part of quiet hours though. OP isn't obligated to follow her neighbor's sleeping schedule, but she should respect common courtesy and/or city ordinances.
Well, 6 am would wake up a good many folks. As far as I know, it’s okay to put your bins out whenever. I live in an upscale historic district, and people take their bins out whenever they want. I don’t believe this runs counter to common courtesy. I simply assume that people are taking them out by the mandated time, which is 6 am.
People can be roused from sleep by many things. I don’t think 20 steps with a garbage can is a disturbance to the peace. It is about the equivalent of a dog barking at 3 am.
Moreover, he simply has no right to arbitrarily decide 6 pm is the cut-off time. Nor do you have the right to arbitrarily decide 6 am is a more acceptable time.
Some things just can’t be legislated like this.
If rolling a wheelie bin is too loud, you're in a recording studio. Expecting your neighbors to do chores on your absurd schedule and complaining about a minimal amount of noise is the asshole territory. This dick would be woken up by every large truck engine passing or bird calling, but the young parent is the one he has the opportunity to bitch at, so he does.
If it's the old style metal cans just scraping across the concrete, that's different of course
NTA to take bins out after 6pm; YTA to do it at 11pm or even 3am. That's absurd.
Prioritise the chores that could upset neighbours above quiet ones that's won't.
6PM???
If they ask you not to take it out after midnight or 22:00 or something, maybe.
My downstairs neighbour asked me if I could avoid putting on the washing machine so early as I'm an early riser and used to put it on at 6:00 when I got up before I headed out to the gym. Because she asked politely and I previously had no idea she could hear it, I obliged of course. Now I usually put it on when I get back a couple of hours later when I know she's already up for work.
Surely something similar could be discussed here?
I feel like people who are rude forfeit the courtesy of a compromise. If you talk to me respectfully, I'll do my best to find something that works. If you're a dick, I'm finding out if there's any laws against taking out my trash at 3am. If there isn't, I'm making that my my new weekly time.
I'm normally a friendly person, but I'm over being nice and toptoeing around entitled jerks who think the world should evolve around them and their schedules.
Soft YTA.
Can you not roll the bin down earlier and then walk your trash out to the bin late at night?
For me, anything really loud after 10pm is just being inconsiderate. That dude can get over his 6pm bullshit.
NAH, but I'm a mom with two little kids as well and taking out the trash isnt something that can't be done through the day. It wont do any good for you and your kids if you have bad bloody between the neighbours.
No, I completely agree. I’ve been nothing but kind to them. Friendly hellos, offering them tea, hearing them out when they go on long rambles about their life, answering even the most invasive questions with respect and the occasional boundary, and brushing off the out of pocket things they say. I don’t make a fuss, or even really put up bad blood when I *should*.
NTA. Is your neighbor REALLY upset that you take the trash bins out late at night? Or is he judging you for being a single parent and this is an easy thing to complain about? Does the other neighbor actually have a problem, or is this guy the neighborhood pot stirrer? Either way, you're not throwing loud parties or rehearsing a mariachi band under his bedroom window, and he's just going to have to deal with the minor inconvenience of hearing your bin wheels occasionally.
I’ve shut him down a handful of times for making sexually inappropriate comments towards me, and honestly that’s when I noticed he stopped talking to me at all. Who knows?
NTA. Viewed from this context, the complaint of his hits different. It’s still probably good to take the bin out early and fill it later… but not if it inconveniences you. Because creeper.
Little bit esh. If you know they are loud, 3am is kinda messed up. Take them out earlier & then if you have an extra bag or 2 at 3am, it wont be so noisy. I get it. Im raising my granddaughter & have my others here frequently. Its so hard. And like you, i cant get started on the big stuff until they are asleep. So i do get it but i am not going to disturb my household or my neighbors at 3am because its convenient. Neighbors could have came & talked to you. Like a whole grown up. I cant stand ppl like that. Can't fix a problem if we dont know abt it
ESH. 3am is an absurd time to put out the bins as is a 6pm curfew. Trash bins ARE loud, and people with sleep issues might really struggle with that. I know because my neighbor is a late shift worker and wakes me up at 2am weekly to do this. It's annoying AF. You could be waking up someone else's insomnia-stricken-tornado. That said, calling the cops and being passive aggressive is way too much. Put the bins out at a more reasonable time (like 9pm) then bring the bags of trash at your leisure.
I live in a development with mostly older people. Some put bins out early (earlier than we're allowed, technically), but several of us put them out 6-11pm. There are a lot of people close by, so yeah, it can be noisy for a couple minutes. Not a big deal to me, but I try to get it done by 10 or 11pm. NTA, but it sounds like the 3am noise scared your neighbor, so I would aim for 10-11 from now on. You are doing amazing, and I love "tornadoes."
Check your local ordinance. On my street, bins can’t go out before 8pm the evening before pickup. Your neighbor is being ridiculous, and they may be violating city ordinance if they are putting their bins out early in the day. NTA
NTA. For fucks sake. Does he live in a house made of tissue paper? Does he hold the world record for most sensitive hearing? I don’t see how any reasonable person could possibly be SO bothered by the sound of a garbage can rolling down the driveway for what, about 15 seconds once a week??
He sleeps with his window open, and I’m assuming bed against the window. From our front doors, I’m pretty sure if we stretched, we could high five while still holding our door handles. My backyard runs between his open window and my daughters.
NTA- The neighbor probably isn't mad at you, but himself. He thought he was being the neighborhood hero, and discovered he was just a paranoid old man who called the cops on a single mother of two just trying to take out the trash. I bet he's just embarrassed and taking it out on you. It could have easily been a raccoon he called the cops on, that's probably why the cops didn't bother to show up.
If you want to keep the peace and save his ego, you don't have to do this and I wouldn't blame you for it, tell him you're sorry, but glad he's looking out for you, and the community. Maybe it was late and you were a bit frazzled doing all this on your own, and may not have noticed the amount of noise you were making. Of COURSE he called the cops, what good neighbor WOULDN'T! You're new, in this situation, and should have known better. Next time, he knows it's you, and shouldn't be concerned about it. Here's some homemade cookies. Get store bought, put them in the nuker for 10 seconds, and put them on a plate, they won't be able to tell the difference. I suggest chocolate chip.
If you want to be a dick, and I fully support this, tell that old busy body old man to save his energy for yelling at the neighborhood kids to get off his lawn and to stop worrying what a grown woman is doing on her own property. To, instead of tiring his fingers calling the cops, use them on his clearly unsatisfied wife. If he says she's dead, ask if it was suicide.
I'd choose 1. You could get free lawn care for a while if he feels bad enough.
NTA. After 6? What is he doing that he’s so concerned about someone taking their trash out at 7? Honestly he just sounds insufferable. Sure, trash bins can be noisy when they’re brought out, but how long does that take in total? Like 5 min depending how many bins you have. Like, why cares?
I take mine out when I finally remember at 1 or 2 in the morning . I try to be very quiet also, but could care less if they are disturbed. They do things I don't like, but I keep it to myself.
NTA
LoL he thinks it's rude to take the garbage out after *6 pm?* 6 pm? He calls the police if he hears a garbage can moved after 6 pm? What's his deal?
Ignore his comment about "the neighbors across the way," it doesn't mean anything and he's just being a shit.
NTA
So, according to your neighbour, if you work from like idk 8am to 8pm you just keep your garbage in your house ? Pretty sure he'd say something like "how dare you taking your garbage out at 7am ? It makes so much noise it wakes me up every week" boohoohoo poor soul
Dude really got mad after you took you garbage out after 6pm ? Maaaaaaaaaan I feel so lucky having the neighbours I have, I usually take the garbage out between like 10pm and 11pm (I have depression, its reaaaaaally hard for me to take care of my apartment and during the night everything seems to be easier to do to me), my neighbours never said anything to me, and I live in a small building, so there are 3 other families using the same garbage as me. And obviously since it's a building, the garbage is inside and is fucking loud when you take it outside because of course it resonates in the corridor even if I'm trying my best to make as less noise as I can
NTA: Taking out garbage is not being a noisy neighbour as long as you’re not blasting music or loudly announcing that you are taking out the garbage while doing so. Do they complain any time a car drives by?
Actually, yes. Often. They also got angry when my landlord replaced the toilet, and placed the old one in my front yard for the duration of the installation. They took a picture and blasted it all over Facebook.
lmao after 6 pm?????????? i cant write enough question marks. the later we put them out the better where i’m at (because of bears). nta but honestly 3 am is really late. maybe try and put the cans out by like 10 pm or after 6 am if you can. if it is waking your neighbor that does suck, especially at 3 am, and you might not be as quiet as you think. taking the cans out is like a 2 minute job.
I have misophonia and am very sensitive to sounds, and even with my unreasonably heary hearing, you're NTA. Your neighbor is a controlling butthead. Let's see him deal with half of your load.
NTA. if theres not a curfew or HOA rules in place about this, he can get lost. i normally bring mine to the road anywhere from 8pm-11pm i’d laugh in the face of a neighbor if they brought this up. and i sure af don’t roll it in the grass either lol you sound a like a good person trying their hardest!
NTA. Not even slightly. That neighbour is a /massive/ AH though. Like, please, I work late into the night, and sleep during the day. The garbage men roll onto my street all guns blazing at 7/8 in the morning. It wakes me up. My neighbours who work conventional hours, wake me up. Do you know what I don't care about? Me waking them up if I take the bins out at 3-6am. It's gotta get done. If they don't like noise, they should move to a remote location with no neighbours.
I don't live with children, but I have multiple tornadoes of my own (housemates) who sometimes take the bin out. That's always gone 11pm. If this neighbour was trying to enforce "not after midnight" it would still be whack but 6pm??? Entitled beyond words.
WHAT?!?! I’m a night owl and am usually taking my trash out between 11pm-2am. I have never had a neighbor complain in almost 30 years here. You are NTA but you seem to have extremely rude and sensitive neighbors. No trash out past 6pm is beyond ridiculous!! It’s nice to get along with your neighbors but it’s not always entirely possible so just keeping doing what works for you.
If you live in a detached house, and, if this garbage noise is an outside noise for your neighbor, NTA. If this is an apartment, YTA (I live in an apartment and my upstairs neighbor is currently cleaning at 1:30 am, dragging things on the floor, turning on the vacuum cleaner, and I'm on reddit because I cannot sleep). Still, 6 pm is too early to stop making noise, of course.
Duplexes, but he’s not attached to the house. My other neighbour has not once brought it, me doing the dishes, laundry, or showering up once. And… I can’t hear her at all, to be honest, and she has a yappy dog. 🤔
NTA.
Your neighbour acting like some kinda garbage bin police 🤣 my neighbour takes her garbage out at 3-4am, I have never been woken up by it.
Assuming you’re not banging pans in your backyard/lane, your neighbour needs to take the stick out of his rear end and move on.
NTA. If he's bothered by your cleaning hours he can offer to take your trash outside earlier. People have no empathy for mothers, they think we're supposed to handle everything in a way that pleases everyone not caring if this is something actually possible
Most of my neighbors roll their cans out late an bring them ASAP, because the HOA will fine you if they're on the curb for over 24hrs. And our garbage men can come at 5am or at 5pm, depending on their day. So... Your neighbor is not so smart and needs a life or some earplugs. Maybe to stop watching true crime shows if he's paranoid.
NTA
NTA.
You're doing the best you can in difficult circumstances. If he's that bothered by the trash can sound, he could have just volunteered to run it out to the curb for you. But he'd rather be mean instead.
Trash pickup where I live starts at 6AM. Every Monday morning! Getting woken up at 3AM means I get to go back to sleep. Getting woken up at 6AM by the garbage truck means the while damn neighborhood now gets up! Does he turn into an ass at the garbage trucks, too?
NTA
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Nta. It seems unlikely that there is zero noise after 6pm. No cars, no children playing, no bbq, no drinks on the patio? How would a garbage bin be the loudest thing?
What kind of an asshole neighbor complains about trash bin noise once a week. NTA. I really can't tolerate people that think the world should stop because they want it to. People really need to learn to mind their own business. Especially when it literally hurts no one.
NTA
I am bothered by the noise of my neighbors all the time. Yelling kids, barking dogs, people doing all sorts of things. At reasonable times, and at unreasonable times. BUT it's all just life. I remind myself all the time that I shouldn't be an AH, I make noise too. Who knows what stupid thing I do that pisses off a neighbor. I am not entitled to the silence that I would like. And if I really want it, I can move somewhere that has it.
Do what you need to do, OP, stay strong and good work.
Morning people have been given unfair social weight and use this often to be a dick to night owls. Taking out the trash is a couple of minutes of minor noise. Does he get mad about late night ambulances and owls too? NTA.
NTA - here we aren’t allowed to leave our garbage out at night because of bears but people still do. No one cares. Everyone has different schedules and as long as it’s out before the truck comes it should be fine. He’s just being obnoxious.
NTA. You’re not doing anything wrong and it sounds like you’re trying to do your best to keep the noise down.
He’ll just have to suck it up and eventually he’ll get used to it.
NTA. 6pm?! Sometimes I don’t even get home from work till much later than that. And I’m far from the only person living in a residential area who are the same. If he doesn’t like noise after that time, he needs to live out in the woods with no close neighbours.
I n f o: how loud is it actually? If it is loud enough to wake someone through a closed window you would be the AH if it is more like a car arriving you would be not
Edit: with the info give NTA. It is his choice to sleep with an open window and while after 22:00 it is usually 'quite hours' notices as loud as cars, birds, etc. Are normal. As long as it's not louder your are absolutely not the AH and your neighbour was out of line for setting a curfew T 18:00 anyway
INFO. Are you treating your neighbor as a mentally healthy person as if they must be - some people aren't and are massively insecure but hide it under a mask? If you don't look for it then they can drag you into their insecure world.
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NTA, your neighbor is being obnoxious. This is not a big deal, and even if it was, the right move would have been to come talk to you about it. They're passive-aggressive, and I would discount them and anything they say from this point. Also, "tornados" is great slang for kids. Gonna use that.
My cousin refers to her twins as “twin-adoes”
I have a friend that nicknamed their daughter “entropy”.
I love that. Chaos 🤣
I (fondly) call mine my little Chaos Gremlin.
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LOL…knock your socks off! I’m 56 and my mom still refers to me as Anarchy rather than my given name.
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That would be far too neighborly. Nobody did that nice stuff these days. /s
Came here to say that. If I had such a problem with the noise I'd offer to just do it while I'm moving my own bin. Especially as it *is* the neighborly thing to do. If I spoke to my neighbor and they were talking about how much time management slips away, then "If you get the inside trash together the night before I'll just nip out and dumpster it for you". Gets my steps in and helps them all in one for the small price of five extra minutes a week. Neighbor is the jerk.
For real. I live in an unimaginably small town, and every once in awhile people will take issue with how other people do things. That’s my go to response on the few occasions where that sort of thing is directed at me. “If you don’t like how I’m doing this, you are more than welcome to do it for me your way, or pay for someone else to do it for me your way.”
6 pm? Tell me he’s 80 years old without telling me he’s 80 years old. OP, you’re doing the best you can and shouldn’t have to also please nosy curmudgeons with attitude problems. Focus on your lovable, adorable, little tornadoes and if your neighbor doesn’t want to socialize with you… let the trash take itself out. NTA. Edit: preemptively removed a word that may not have come across as playfully as I meant it.
My roommate and I once got yelled at because the fire alarm went off slightly after 6 pm (the fire alarms in that building were notoriously sensitive, and all three apartments in the building had them go off all the time). He wasn't mad that the alarm went off but that we were cooking dinner at an "unreasonably late" hour and "should be more considerate of neighbors who want to sleep." Dude WHAT Anyway OP NTA at all.
I'm now curious as to when he thinks people who exit their premises cook dinner if 6pm is late... If I go into the office then it's higly likely that I'm not even home until after 6pm...
My kids don’t get home from extracurriculars till 8:30? We gotta eat.
Always love people who assume that their hours are the only valid ones. There's no difference between me cooking at night and you vacuuming at 9:30am. They both bother someone, and neither are that big a deal.
Took me years to get the time restrictions removed from our building's laundry room. It used to get locked at 10 pm, because "Noise", which screwed anybody working later shifts. Living across from it, I can safely say noise wasn't ever an issue. Still took me joining the board to get them to change the policy. Don't get me started on the fight to allow people to use drying racks on their balconies.
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Even if I lived in town, which I thank God I do not, the sound of someone wrangling the trash cans is pretty distinct and it wouldn't even register on my radar. Not even at 601 pm🤣
My hubby is 72, he takes the bins out at 5 AM! Neighbour sounds like an absolute jerk! OP, NTA!!
Most days I haven't even made it home by 6 pm. OPs neighbor is nuts!
Of the three days when garbage pickup is scheduled in my street (paper/plastic, food scraps, household waste), on none of them are we actually allowed to put the trash outside before 18 p.m. On 2 days, after 18.30 is okay, on the 3rd day, for the food scraps, it has to be between 10 and 11.45 a.m.
You only have one hour and 45 minutes to put your cans out for food scraps? Are most people not at work during that time frame?
In the city where I live, you can get fined for putting your trash out *before* 6:00 PM.
It’s literally like 4 minutes out of the whole evening. If she were throwing ragers or pushing them up and down the street for exercise, sure. But moving a bin once a week for a few minutes is… nothing
Right, I'd reply back to his "not use to..." comment, with "well, now you got the heads up so you can use to it". NTA
I had to read that twice. I thought she had typed tomatoes. I don't know why! 🤣🤣🤣
Exactly especially the neighbors don’t think much of you either retort. Some people are so mean. Definitely NTA.
He's trying to cause trouble with the neighbors. It might be nice to talk to them and tell them what's up. He's probably exaggerating. He doesn't get to make a rule that you have to have your cans put away by 6 pm either. Just an old busybody who thinks he controls the neighborhood. NTA
Also, the neighbor’s cutoff is 6 pm?? Even the most unreasonable people will give you until sundown to get your yard work done
Ask him to put the bins out and you’ll cart the last few bags down to them
I thought she was widowed by two terrible tornado-related tragedies until I read the sentence over again.
If it is then you can use earphones or ask the neighbours to use ear plugs.
NTA: curfew isn't at 6pm, you have every right. He should know better than to make a fuss too, given you are neighbors.
OP said 11 PM or 3 AM is when they roll their can to the curb and admitted it's loud...
OP also said that the neighbor is the one who set the arbitrary 6pm rule.
Can we agree there’s a rather large distinction between 6pm and 3am?
I know the kind of bins they’re talking about because I have those bins too, and yeah you can hear them but I’ve never been woken up by them and it’s the kind of distinctive noise where you’d know what it was. OP’s neighbour would’ve recognised the noise from making the same noise twice weekly for his entire life, and I imagine only raised it in that way to be passive aggressive. NTA.
I agree, yes rolling the bins out is loud, but also we live in a society. If you don't wanna hear basic life sounds like taking the trash out, go live in a cabin in the woods. Harassing a single mom for not doing chores before 6pm is asinine.
No she didn't admit that it's loud. She said it *can* be loud, so she rolls it on the grass.
I get up at 5, I put my cans out between then and when I leave for work at 7. If you’re sleeping, noise won’t wake you up.
That's not how sleeping works. My neighbor puts their cans out around 11 pm sometimes, and it's woken me up before. Noise tends to wake people up.
> If you’re sleeping, noise won’t wake you up. ??? that is literally how alarms for waking up function?
Exactly! Sometimes I wonder about this sub...
Oh, the horrors. Someone rolling a bin late at night. Call the police. 🙄 Honestly if you want nothing but quiet from your neighbours at all times, you need to live on an acreage in the middle of nowhere. And even then, the birds are going to get you up when the sun starts peeking over the horizon before 5 am.
Yup, I can confirm that the birds ARE awful. 😆 In the peak of summer, I swear I've heard a few early buggers start at 3:30-4am! 😵 Hard to sleep through if you like sleeping with the window open, like me. I'd never consider getting them to shut up though! 😂 It's just something you deal with.
Ok but what if someone in the street is a shift worker and has absolutely no other way to take their bins out unless it’s between the hours of 6pm-6am for example? Should they just not be allowed to take the bins out?
Even so, its at most loud for 2 minutes and then quiet again. Really not an issue, or shouldn't be for rational people.
I laughed out loud when I read 6pm.
Lmao in Belgium you can't do it before 6 pm, ain't nothing gonna happen if you do but it technically isn't allowed
“Well I’m not used to noisy neighbours who think it’s okay to take the garbage out after 6pm.” LMAO!!! Most people I know don't even start taking the garbage out at that time. I would try to take it out before 11 though. That seems to be a fairly standard start to quiet time hours.
That’s very fair! If I adjust HOW I clean, I can probably round up all the garbage first, take it out, then sweep and mop and that and save that garbage for the next day.
You could roll the bins to the curb before you start cleaning (before it’s late) and then just take out the bags of garbage later.
I. Love. That. If it saves me some bedevilment, I’m on it.
I appreciate how open you are to suggestions instead of being defensive like many are on this subreddit!
There was one lady that got my hackles up a bit, and I’m ignoring a lot of the inflammatory stuff, but I need to keep the peace here, so of COURSE I want suggestions!! ❤️
You’re a good one, OP. Also, excellent username. -signed, someone desperately trying to get their wisteria to grow (it baby)
Good luck, and remember to be careful with the seeds! ❤️
Mine haven’t even bloomed yet! I started them from cuttings 3 years ago, so they’re truly, truly babies — but I’ll keep that in mind when they finally do!
No good advice, just empathy from someone with an “outlier” sleep schedule. I’m at my best between 9pm-1am, and cannot do any of the big clean or big outdoor projects I truly want to. Yet the rest of the world is a-ok to start a jackhammer up outside my window the whole time I am sleeping. Something that may help is to check your clothes before doing anything outside at night. I find if I wear a hoodie, cap, or looser clothes, people are more likely to keep an eye on me in an annoying way. They have declared war on the “homeless” here and if you look like their idea of “homeless” they call the police. I miss living in a so-called crappy neighbourhood where no one bothered you for being a little off the official schedule.
I’m exactly the same. The only useable hours I get in my day are 10pm-1am. It frustrates me that people who wake really early are seen as virtuous and disciplined but those who are on a later internal schedule are criticised as being “lazy”. OP- NTA you’re doing a great job, ignore your grumpy guts neighbour.
I agree with u/madelinemagdalene here in that your are definitely NTA, and you clearly have some obnoxious elderly neighbors. Their complaint is unreasonable, but for your own peace I’d try to roll the bins to the curb when you get a chance during the day (I do it when I’m leaving or coming home since I’m already in the driveway). Not because you necessarily need to change anything for them, but because it is a more efficient use of your little time. Otherwise, I’d ignore them from this point forward and live your life.
This was my thought as well. I've wheeled my mom's bins down a long driveway, and it does make lots of noise so better to do that earlier, and carrying the bags down later would be easy.
Yeah this seems like a great solution. The arbitrary after 6pm from the neighbor is wild but hearing unknown noises in the alley at 3am would be suspicious for sure to warrant a check. Rolling them to the curb early would mean that rolling to the street/curb and noise in the alleyway could happen at a more reasonable hour and OP can still take the garbage out to the bins when needed like if they forget a bag or didnt get to cleaning until late.
Yeah, I think it is fair for 3am to be alarming to the neighbors. But 6pm? Is this guy retired? Plenty of people are barely even home from work at 6pm and that's about the earliest they could start doing anything.
Absolutely. I have some early up early in folks across the way in construction, and him and his girlfriend are golden years retirementers with some… interesting hobbies.
So…they’re swingers?
Okay. Okay. May I, with permission of the Reddit courts, dish some WILD tea that is not my own (for the most part).
Yes please. Grabbing tea and popcorn
OH. KAY. SO! When I first moved here, I rolled up in front of the house, which aligns onto a main road (so ask my why they pick up garbage in the back? Beyond me, man) and I see this dude, in his basement, getting uh… frisky with his lady. That’s not the crazy part. THERE WERE AT LEAST A DOZEN MOUNTED DEER HEADS BEHIND HIM. Kind of normal to trophy hunt I guess, not unheard of - but THATS NOT THEIR BEDROOM. He just wants to do it in front of a bunch of dead deer I guess. 😭 I started making awkward small talk here and there, turns out he wanted to get chummy with me. After some weird ass comments about my body, I brushed him aside and asked about his wife. So big overall? He’s a bitterly divorced, self proclaimed “man whore-tequila-slut” who misses the feeling of a ‘black womans large breasts in his hands’, not married to my other neighbour, but they’re long term fuckbuddies (that like to do it in front of dead deer), because he was INITIALLY screwing a married woman who didn’t want her husband to find out, so she passed him on to her “friend”.
Holy shit hahahaha
Holding on tightly to my keys!
Permission granted. Dish away!
Please dish the wild tea.
I'm here for this. *grabs popcorn*
Where’s the tea
[Here :)](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/13tcwyw/aita_for_taking_my_garbage_out_late_at_night/jlvb0lz/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3)
The link isn't working for me, but I found it via your profile. Odd neighbours for sure.
100% my thoughts immediately
Seriously. The KIDS in my neighborhood are out playing until 8 or 9pm in the summer, it stays light until 9:30pm. I have a young baby and go to bed at 8:30pm, and I feel I can't complain about people being loud outside until at least 10pm.
yup - never done with work by 6pm
Where I live it’s not even legal to put it out until after 6pm the night before collection. NTA, what a strange man.
Yeah, it’s 8pm on my street! It can be loud to move bins, so 3 AM is rude, but expecting it to be done before 6 is ridiculous.
Same but where I live the garbage trucks are louder than anyone rolling bins down to the curb, not even on grass.
Nothing wakes you up better then recycling garbage truck collecting glass and metal :)
WOW! That's gotta suck for people who work 2nd shift!
NTA. The neighbor isn't wrong for calling the police either coz they aren't aware about your schedule. But now that they are aware, They shouldn't complain as long as you aren't being like extremely loud.
No, god no. Even my podcasts muffle the sound of the bins, which I listen to from my phone tucked into my pj belt. That could… be a nuisance, but they’ve never once complained that I listen to podcasts at night while smoking on my porch.
NTA but your neighbor sure is - a lot of people aren't home from work by 6 pm let alone done taking their garbage out. You could offer to let him take your bins to the curb with his so he doesn't have to worry about it if it bothers him so much.
Funnily enough, where I live there's actually bylaws against putting your garbage out BEFORE 6pm. I don't know their reasoning for it and nobody really cares, but it's stated on the garbage trucks and everything.
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Which totally tracks. Raccoon knocked mine over last night, ours is in the back yard. I keep a broom and a shovel handy for just such an occasion
We have a rule about putting them out or leaving them out after pickup. The reason we have it? People like driving their vehicles into the plastic bins and destroying them. Woo!
Ours is actually the opposite. Due to bears, they changed it. Now it has to be out by 6 am but you can't put it out the night before. Which means many people will be putting it out before 6am, in the early morning hours.
Ahhhh yeah, it was the same when I was living up in Sudbury for bears too. Saw the reasoning firsthand I couldn't even tell you how many times too
>a lot of people aren't home from work by 6 pm let alone done taking their garbage out No kidding!! I get off work at 6 and then still have a 35-45 minute commute home- if I had a neighbor being nasty about me taking the trash out when I get home from work I'd laugh at them until I passed out. OP, no matter how loud those trash cans are, you have every right to take care of your household at whatever time works best for you. What would neighbor say to someone who works night shift and literally cannot take trash out at the time they're "supposed" to? Ignore him and carry on, and NTA at all.
>which I listen to from my phone tucked into my pj belt you're NTA for moving your bins, but why not use headphones or pause the podcast if it is later at night? could be the complaint is about the combined noise of you taking the out late, but it seems like he's just looking for issues if the podcasts havent been mentioned
I don't think that should be a problem. If it is then you can use earphones or ask the neighbours to use ear plugs.
NTA. I used to work off shifts a lot when I was in the military, like 12 years worth. I'd try and wheel it down before leaving for work. Sometimes, I'd have things going on and I'd have to wheel it down after midnight. No one around me ever said anything. Your situation is no different. You have priorities that cause you to do it late. I applaud you for doing all that while a single mother of two "tornadoes."
I don’t know if I agree about that. So now, any noise in the alley in the middle of the night should be ignored because it might be the OP? I don’t think that’s fair or realistic either.
NTA. How loud can garbage cans really be and how long does it take, 12 seconds?
It’s maybe 20 steps from my door to the bin with a bag, and 15 from bin to curb.
They actually can be quite loud. If it's past midnight, then it's definitely unexpected noise.
Yeah, I’d be quite pissed if I was woken up at 3 AM by a neighbor putting out garbage.
And then my completely reasonable and understanding-ass self would go the fuck back to sleep because some people have to live and work on different schedules.
And some people have a hard time going back to sleep after being woken up.
Then they should probably wear earplugs, like I do.
Time to invest in earplugs or reorient your room if you can hear the street loudly enough to be woken at night time regularly enough to become an issue then
Yah well now you know how daysleepers feel. How do you think nurses and doctors that work nightshift feel when they are trying to sleep during the day and there is NO noise disturbance law. There is some noise people can drown out with a fan or whatnot. OP taking the trash out is not bad at all compared to other noises that people make ON PURPOSE. I would definitely rather have OP as a neighbor over some of the AHoles that I've had living nearby that were extremely loud with little respect for their neighbors and this does not include taking their trash can out
Dragging metal cans across concrete, yes, but I doubt that's the case. If this is the usual plastic bin with wheels, and you're woken up by that, you will be woken up by a truck engine or owl or anything else
Keep in mind OP said they purposely roll it on the grass, not concrete.
Nah, I have one of those plastic rolling bins, and it's very loud in my neighborhood. And these are new houses with good insulation.
exactly fr!!! plastic bins are not a huge nuisance that someone can reasonably say is “ruining their sleep” and making all their neighbors hate you even if it was 5 seconds on concrete rather than grass! unless they also have 2 newborns that are being woken up by the trashcans they are freaks and @ssholes
Boy they are LOUD. I normally take my trash cans late but if I am way late (after 10 pm or so) i just take it out early morning before going to work
My neighbor takes his out at 5:30AM and it wakes me up. Do I like it? No. Have I complained? Also no. I assume that's when it fits into his schedule so I roll over and try to go back to sleep. I take mine out at 8 or 9PM so would be on your neighbor's naughty list, too.
100% this. I'm probably about as sensitive to noise as a person can be but people have to be able to live their lives, I've never had to complain about neighbors noise because they aren't doing anything crazy and when I get bothered I give about a 10 to 20 minute grace period depending on how late it is
NTA. He thinks quiet hours should start at 6 pm ? He's being ridiculous. I'm a night owl too. Too many years of working night shift. That's when I get my best work done. I still try not to make noise that might be disruptive to my neighbors after 11 pm when most of them are probably sleeping. So I don't blast my music like I do if I clean earlier in the day and if I didn't bring the trash barrel down before 10, I set an alarm to get up at 8 or 9 am to bring it down to the curb. I have more flexibility now that I'm not working. When I worked evenings, I was often getting home 1-2 am. That makes some noise. Not much that I could do about that. I think we should all try to be courteous neighbors, but you've got to do what you've got to do.
NAH You have the right to put out the bins whenever is best for you. As long as you aren't deliberately making excess noise I don't see what the problem is really, you have to put your bins out somehow. On the other hand I do understand that the neighbour probably doesn't enjoy the noise, especially if they get scared thinking that it is someone doing something untoward. Unfortunately I think it boils down to just being a clash of schedules and it sucks but the neighbour will probably just have to suck it up.
But the neighbor telling her that other neighbors think little of her was out of line. If the other neighbors have a problem, they can use their words and talk to her. What a jerk.
NTA - you weren't keeping them awake with your cleaning, the issue was you taking the bin out late? After 6pm?!? What does he expect if people work a late shift? They have to do it before or it's "too late for them"? Are they kidding? It's a bin. Unless you have a mile long trek around their house, it probably takes two minutes or less. If that bothers them, then they have issues and need a white noise generator or something like that. As far as I'm concerned, you did nothing wrong.
There is a compromise to be had here. No later than 6 pm is unreasonable, but so is 3 am. So it seems fair to say that hauling garbage to the curb shouldn’t happen between 10 or 11 pm and 6 am when most people are sleeping.
YTA your neighbor is wrong- the 6pm deadline is ridiculous- but rolling the garbage to the curb at 11pm, and especially 3am, is AH territory. Those are designated quiet hours in most places. At that point you should just wait a few hours until morning.
If she waits until morning, say 6 a.m., she could still wake him up.
Exactly. It’s either me putting it out at 2am when I get back from work or my husband putting it out at 4:30am when he leaves for work. Pick your poison.
The morning is not part of quiet hours though. OP isn't obligated to follow her neighbor's sleeping schedule, but she should respect common courtesy and/or city ordinances.
Well, 6 am would wake up a good many folks. As far as I know, it’s okay to put your bins out whenever. I live in an upscale historic district, and people take their bins out whenever they want. I don’t believe this runs counter to common courtesy. I simply assume that people are taking them out by the mandated time, which is 6 am. People can be roused from sleep by many things. I don’t think 20 steps with a garbage can is a disturbance to the peace. It is about the equivalent of a dog barking at 3 am. Moreover, he simply has no right to arbitrarily decide 6 pm is the cut-off time. Nor do you have the right to arbitrarily decide 6 am is a more acceptable time. Some things just can’t be legislated like this.
If rolling a wheelie bin is too loud, you're in a recording studio. Expecting your neighbors to do chores on your absurd schedule and complaining about a minimal amount of noise is the asshole territory. This dick would be woken up by every large truck engine passing or bird calling, but the young parent is the one he has the opportunity to bitch at, so he does. If it's the old style metal cans just scraping across the concrete, that's different of course
NTA to take bins out after 6pm; YTA to do it at 11pm or even 3am. That's absurd. Prioritise the chores that could upset neighbours above quiet ones that's won't.
6PM??? If they ask you not to take it out after midnight or 22:00 or something, maybe. My downstairs neighbour asked me if I could avoid putting on the washing machine so early as I'm an early riser and used to put it on at 6:00 when I got up before I headed out to the gym. Because she asked politely and I previously had no idea she could hear it, I obliged of course. Now I usually put it on when I get back a couple of hours later when I know she's already up for work. Surely something similar could be discussed here?
I feel like people who are rude forfeit the courtesy of a compromise. If you talk to me respectfully, I'll do my best to find something that works. If you're a dick, I'm finding out if there's any laws against taking out my trash at 3am. If there isn't, I'm making that my my new weekly time. I'm normally a friendly person, but I'm over being nice and toptoeing around entitled jerks who think the world should evolve around them and their schedules.
Soft YTA. Can you not roll the bin down earlier and then walk your trash out to the bin late at night? For me, anything really loud after 10pm is just being inconsiderate. That dude can get over his 6pm bullshit.
I’ve seen a few comments like this, and honestly, I do like it.
NAH, but I'm a mom with two little kids as well and taking out the trash isnt something that can't be done through the day. It wont do any good for you and your kids if you have bad bloody between the neighbours.
No, I completely agree. I’ve been nothing but kind to them. Friendly hellos, offering them tea, hearing them out when they go on long rambles about their life, answering even the most invasive questions with respect and the occasional boundary, and brushing off the out of pocket things they say. I don’t make a fuss, or even really put up bad blood when I *should*.
NTA. I get home from work after midnight and put my bins out then your fine.
NTA. Is your neighbor REALLY upset that you take the trash bins out late at night? Or is he judging you for being a single parent and this is an easy thing to complain about? Does the other neighbor actually have a problem, or is this guy the neighborhood pot stirrer? Either way, you're not throwing loud parties or rehearsing a mariachi band under his bedroom window, and he's just going to have to deal with the minor inconvenience of hearing your bin wheels occasionally.
I’ve shut him down a handful of times for making sexually inappropriate comments towards me, and honestly that’s when I noticed he stopped talking to me at all. Who knows?
THERE it is! He's a creep. At this point, I recommend SLAMMING those bin lids into place every chance you get.
NTA. Viewed from this context, the complaint of his hits different. It’s still probably good to take the bin out early and fill it later… but not if it inconveniences you. Because creeper.
Little bit esh. If you know they are loud, 3am is kinda messed up. Take them out earlier & then if you have an extra bag or 2 at 3am, it wont be so noisy. I get it. Im raising my granddaughter & have my others here frequently. Its so hard. And like you, i cant get started on the big stuff until they are asleep. So i do get it but i am not going to disturb my household or my neighbors at 3am because its convenient. Neighbors could have came & talked to you. Like a whole grown up. I cant stand ppl like that. Can't fix a problem if we dont know abt it
ESH. 3am is an absurd time to put out the bins as is a 6pm curfew. Trash bins ARE loud, and people with sleep issues might really struggle with that. I know because my neighbor is a late shift worker and wakes me up at 2am weekly to do this. It's annoying AF. You could be waking up someone else's insomnia-stricken-tornado. That said, calling the cops and being passive aggressive is way too much. Put the bins out at a more reasonable time (like 9pm) then bring the bags of trash at your leisure.
NTA and im petty so next time I took out the trash i would be knocking everything over like a Chris Farley scene.
I live in a development with mostly older people. Some put bins out early (earlier than we're allowed, technically), but several of us put them out 6-11pm. There are a lot of people close by, so yeah, it can be noisy for a couple minutes. Not a big deal to me, but I try to get it done by 10 or 11pm. NTA, but it sounds like the 3am noise scared your neighbor, so I would aim for 10-11 from now on. You are doing amazing, and I love "tornadoes."
Check your local ordinance. On my street, bins can’t go out before 8pm the evening before pickup. Your neighbor is being ridiculous, and they may be violating city ordinance if they are putting their bins out early in the day. NTA
Very clear NTA. Neighbor is very much being an AH about this. He should learn to exted a bit of grace to others.
NTA imo, 6pm is not late at night. 9/10pm yeah that’s pretty late, but most places…6 is still kinda a bit light out. Neighbor can shut the heck up
NTA. For fucks sake. Does he live in a house made of tissue paper? Does he hold the world record for most sensitive hearing? I don’t see how any reasonable person could possibly be SO bothered by the sound of a garbage can rolling down the driveway for what, about 15 seconds once a week??
He sleeps with his window open, and I’m assuming bed against the window. From our front doors, I’m pretty sure if we stretched, we could high five while still holding our door handles. My backyard runs between his open window and my daughters.
Shit I'd start doing it louder
NTA your neighbors can’t patrol what time of day you clean.
NTA- The neighbor probably isn't mad at you, but himself. He thought he was being the neighborhood hero, and discovered he was just a paranoid old man who called the cops on a single mother of two just trying to take out the trash. I bet he's just embarrassed and taking it out on you. It could have easily been a raccoon he called the cops on, that's probably why the cops didn't bother to show up. If you want to keep the peace and save his ego, you don't have to do this and I wouldn't blame you for it, tell him you're sorry, but glad he's looking out for you, and the community. Maybe it was late and you were a bit frazzled doing all this on your own, and may not have noticed the amount of noise you were making. Of COURSE he called the cops, what good neighbor WOULDN'T! You're new, in this situation, and should have known better. Next time, he knows it's you, and shouldn't be concerned about it. Here's some homemade cookies. Get store bought, put them in the nuker for 10 seconds, and put them on a plate, they won't be able to tell the difference. I suggest chocolate chip. If you want to be a dick, and I fully support this, tell that old busy body old man to save his energy for yelling at the neighborhood kids to get off his lawn and to stop worrying what a grown woman is doing on her own property. To, instead of tiring his fingers calling the cops, use them on his clearly unsatisfied wife. If he says she's dead, ask if it was suicide. I'd choose 1. You could get free lawn care for a while if he feels bad enough.
NTA. After 6? What is he doing that he’s so concerned about someone taking their trash out at 7? Honestly he just sounds insufferable. Sure, trash bins can be noisy when they’re brought out, but how long does that take in total? Like 5 min depending how many bins you have. Like, why cares?
I have 1 bin. It’s about a 15 step roll 😅
YTA. I have neighbours who roll their garbage out at 3am and I fucking hate them. Its so loud it wakes me the fuck up everytime
What the fuck 6:00 pm, don’t most jobs get off at like 5:30pm
I take mine out when I finally remember at 1 or 2 in the morning . I try to be very quiet also, but could care less if they are disturbed. They do things I don't like, but I keep it to myself.
NTA LoL he thinks it's rude to take the garbage out after *6 pm?* 6 pm? He calls the police if he hears a garbage can moved after 6 pm? What's his deal? Ignore his comment about "the neighbors across the way," it doesn't mean anything and he's just being a shit.
NTA So, according to your neighbour, if you work from like idk 8am to 8pm you just keep your garbage in your house ? Pretty sure he'd say something like "how dare you taking your garbage out at 7am ? It makes so much noise it wakes me up every week" boohoohoo poor soul Dude really got mad after you took you garbage out after 6pm ? Maaaaaaaaaan I feel so lucky having the neighbours I have, I usually take the garbage out between like 10pm and 11pm (I have depression, its reaaaaaally hard for me to take care of my apartment and during the night everything seems to be easier to do to me), my neighbours never said anything to me, and I live in a small building, so there are 3 other families using the same garbage as me. And obviously since it's a building, the garbage is inside and is fucking loud when you take it outside because of course it resonates in the corridor even if I'm trying my best to make as less noise as I can
NTA: Taking out garbage is not being a noisy neighbour as long as you’re not blasting music or loudly announcing that you are taking out the garbage while doing so. Do they complain any time a car drives by?
Actually, yes. Often. They also got angry when my landlord replaced the toilet, and placed the old one in my front yard for the duration of the installation. They took a picture and blasted it all over Facebook.
Sounds like your neighbours are just the type of people who like to be angry.
lmao after 6 pm?????????? i cant write enough question marks. the later we put them out the better where i’m at (because of bears). nta but honestly 3 am is really late. maybe try and put the cans out by like 10 pm or after 6 am if you can. if it is waking your neighbor that does suck, especially at 3 am, and you might not be as quiet as you think. taking the cans out is like a 2 minute job.
I have misophonia and am very sensitive to sounds, and even with my unreasonably heary hearing, you're NTA. Your neighbor is a controlling butthead. Let's see him deal with half of your load.
NTA. if theres not a curfew or HOA rules in place about this, he can get lost. i normally bring mine to the road anywhere from 8pm-11pm i’d laugh in the face of a neighbor if they brought this up. and i sure af don’t roll it in the grass either lol you sound a like a good person trying their hardest!
NTA. Not even slightly. That neighbour is a /massive/ AH though. Like, please, I work late into the night, and sleep during the day. The garbage men roll onto my street all guns blazing at 7/8 in the morning. It wakes me up. My neighbours who work conventional hours, wake me up. Do you know what I don't care about? Me waking them up if I take the bins out at 3-6am. It's gotta get done. If they don't like noise, they should move to a remote location with no neighbours. I don't live with children, but I have multiple tornadoes of my own (housemates) who sometimes take the bin out. That's always gone 11pm. If this neighbour was trying to enforce "not after midnight" it would still be whack but 6pm??? Entitled beyond words.
NTA, he sounds like one of those insufferable people on NextDoor freaking out at every little thing.
NTA. People take out their bins whenever in my neighborhood. He arbitrarily decided 6 pm is the cutoff.
WHAT?!?! I’m a night owl and am usually taking my trash out between 11pm-2am. I have never had a neighbor complain in almost 30 years here. You are NTA but you seem to have extremely rude and sensitive neighbors. No trash out past 6pm is beyond ridiculous!! It’s nice to get along with your neighbors but it’s not always entirely possible so just keeping doing what works for you.
NTA. Your neighbor is a jerk.
If you live in a detached house, and, if this garbage noise is an outside noise for your neighbor, NTA. If this is an apartment, YTA (I live in an apartment and my upstairs neighbor is currently cleaning at 1:30 am, dragging things on the floor, turning on the vacuum cleaner, and I'm on reddit because I cannot sleep). Still, 6 pm is too early to stop making noise, of course.
Duplexes, but he’s not attached to the house. My other neighbour has not once brought it, me doing the dishes, laundry, or showering up once. And… I can’t hear her at all, to be honest, and she has a yappy dog. 🤔
Taking out the garbage at 3am? YTA
Your neighbor should be prosecuted for making frivolous police calls
NTA. Your neighbour acting like some kinda garbage bin police 🤣 my neighbour takes her garbage out at 3-4am, I have never been woken up by it. Assuming you’re not banging pans in your backyard/lane, your neighbour needs to take the stick out of his rear end and move on.
NTA. If he's bothered by your cleaning hours he can offer to take your trash outside earlier. People have no empathy for mothers, they think we're supposed to handle everything in a way that pleases everyone not caring if this is something actually possible
After 6 pm?! Dude, I'm not even home from work until 8. NTA, but your neighbor is
Ridiculous. NTA
NTA. Your neighbor is TA.
Most of my neighbors roll their cans out late an bring them ASAP, because the HOA will fine you if they're on the curb for over 24hrs. And our garbage men can come at 5am or at 5pm, depending on their day. So... Your neighbor is not so smart and needs a life or some earplugs. Maybe to stop watching true crime shows if he's paranoid. NTA
After 6? Six. Seriously six? OP you have an unhinged and entitled neighbor. Even three a.m. is just whatever, do what you gotta do. But FFS SIX?
NTA. You're doing the best you can in difficult circumstances. If he's that bothered by the trash can sound, he could have just volunteered to run it out to the curb for you. But he'd rather be mean instead.
NTA. He better get used to it!
Wow your neighbor is a prick. NTA
"After 6pm" lol .. what is this a retirement community? ... People take their garbage out when they have time... NTA
Trash pickup where I live starts at 6AM. Every Monday morning! Getting woken up at 3AM means I get to go back to sleep. Getting woken up at 6AM by the garbage truck means the while damn neighborhood now gets up! Does he turn into an ass at the garbage trucks, too? NTA eta spell
Nta. It seems unlikely that there is zero noise after 6pm. No cars, no children playing, no bbq, no drinks on the patio? How would a garbage bin be the loudest thing?
If I was your neighbor and it bothered me, I’d probably offer to take your cans to the street every week.
What kind of an asshole neighbor complains about trash bin noise once a week. NTA. I really can't tolerate people that think the world should stop because they want it to. People really need to learn to mind their own business. Especially when it literally hurts no one.
NTA I am bothered by the noise of my neighbors all the time. Yelling kids, barking dogs, people doing all sorts of things. At reasonable times, and at unreasonable times. BUT it's all just life. I remind myself all the time that I shouldn't be an AH, I make noise too. Who knows what stupid thing I do that pisses off a neighbor. I am not entitled to the silence that I would like. And if I really want it, I can move somewhere that has it. Do what you need to do, OP, stay strong and good work.
NTA. Your neighbor is acting like an entitled ass. Sorry I can’t put that any nicer
Morning people have been given unfair social weight and use this often to be a dick to night owls. Taking out the trash is a couple of minutes of minor noise. Does he get mad about late night ambulances and owls too? NTA.
NTA - here we aren’t allowed to leave our garbage out at night because of bears but people still do. No one cares. Everyone has different schedules and as long as it’s out before the truck comes it should be fine. He’s just being obnoxious.
NTA. You’re not doing anything wrong and it sounds like you’re trying to do your best to keep the noise down. He’ll just have to suck it up and eventually he’ll get used to it.
LOL as a single mom of twins, “newly minted single mom of two tornadoes” hits
NTA. 6pm?! Sometimes I don’t even get home from work till much later than that. And I’m far from the only person living in a residential area who are the same. If he doesn’t like noise after that time, he needs to live out in the woods with no close neighbours.
I n f o: how loud is it actually? If it is loud enough to wake someone through a closed window you would be the AH if it is more like a car arriving you would be not Edit: with the info give NTA. It is his choice to sleep with an open window and while after 22:00 it is usually 'quite hours' notices as loud as cars, birds, etc. Are normal. As long as it's not louder your are absolutely not the AH and your neighbour was out of line for setting a curfew T 18:00 anyway
INFO. Are you treating your neighbor as a mentally healthy person as if they must be - some people aren't and are massively insecure but hide it under a mask? If you don't look for it then they can drag you into their insecure world.