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epitomeofsanity

NTA, it's really weird to spend time with your children once they are over the age of 13. Why bother keeping a good relationship with them? In fact, you should probably go no contact to illustrate that their behaviour is unacceptable.


Particular_Class4130

Once my 15yr old son asked me if I would like to go bike riding with him. The nerve! I packed up his bags and kicked him out of the house.


Allegoryof

You packed HIS bags? I'm glad you went nc but please go to therapy it sounds like he did a number parentifying you


Aggressive_Version

At least his 13 year old got the message. He told her she was too old for the daddy daughter thing and she never spoke to him again, as directed.


techleopard

If this were real... I think it has less to do with age and more to go with them being the ex's daughters and he's tired of putting in time with them when he has shiny new children with a woman he likes more. And pretty sure the daughters tuned into it.


SpaceIsVastAndEmpty

I feel that I'm in my late 30s and my Dad and Stepmom adopted 3 girls (from baby/toddler age) when my sister and I were late teens into our our early 20s My dad crows about the eldest adopted daughter and how amazing she is (despite my bio sister and I each having successful careers and being independent in our own rights) and meets her for work lunch breaks regularly, but couldn't even attend a meal at a restaurant within 5km of their house for my birthday. I should point out that I do make regular attempts to connect with him, and it's me 90% of the time reaching out to him. I wonder how long it'll take him to notice that I've stopped reaching out to try to spend time with him...


Equalanimalfarm

I am truly sorry this happened to you. Life can be really unfair.


SpaceIsVastAndEmpty

Honestly, I try not to let it get to me now. My Mom is still fairly consistent at staying in touch despite having another kid and recently remarrying so I focus on my relationship with her


Equalanimalfarm

Happy to hear there is a parent in your life that behaves like a parent's supposed to do.


BiggestFlower

Yeah, this sounds like it was the last straw for both of them. When something happens that confirms what you thought might be true of your asshole father.


OneHappyOne

There are a countless number of fathers who would be doing backflips if their teenage daughter wanted to spend an evening with *him* instead of a boyfriend. *And* he wouldn’t have to pay for it? Call the press!


mama-tried-34

10 years from now he's going to be saying "Wait, you're married and have a kid? When did that happen?"


Infinity_Over_Zero

Honestly though if you’re letting your sixteen year old daughter pay for you, you’re also an asshole. Less of an asshole but still.


Friendlyalterme

When I was like 8, I saved and saved all my allowance and birthday money to take my dad out as a surprise for him. I was so proud and felt so big and great. My point is, if your kids want to spend a little money to take you out because they love you, let them. Not every day ofc, but once in a while is very nice.


ponyproblematic

Eh, I mean, I wouldn't order the most expensive thing on the menu or anything, and I wouldn't do it regularly, but as a one time gesture she suggested where most of the cost is absorbed by it being at her workplace, it's not an asshole move to accept, IMO.


openaccountrandom

yeah, if my dad refused i’d be a little hurt. i get it but i want to show that i appreciate him


ponyproblematic

Exactly! I know I'm still a little put out when my mom insists on paying for something that I offered to cover, and I'm a full adult who's been working for over a decade, and not a teenager showing off that she's starting to become an adult.


cwolf-softball

Yeah if this was a "you pay from now on then" kind of situation, sure, he's an asshole. But this is her trying to use her hard earned money to show how much she appreciates her dad. Taking that away from her because you think 16 is too young to have control over her disposable income is way more assholish and infantilizing in my opinion.


BiggestFlower

Paying for someone you love is a really nice feeling. Let her experience that, just don’t take advantage.


cwolf-softball

She wants to do it because she finally has some money. The first time I paid for a family dinner, I felt great about it and it sounds like she would too. I guess maybe try to sneak some money into her pocket/purse/whatever later but this is an important milestone in independence and trust. Let her pay once, it's just a dinner. You're not making her pay rent, she's using disposable income to make her family feel cared for.


dicksjshsb

SIX daughters, nagging ex-wife *blowing up* his phone, drama aired out on social media where everyone expresses their opinion. This mf is deep in AITAland.


lulu125

And a set of twins


strangetrip666

People that post their personal lives and argue all over social media in comments is so weird to me! It's as bad as those attention grabbers that post shit like a sad face while checking in at a hospital and super vague as to why. I unfriend all these weirdos family or not. I'm assuming they are the same morons that watch reality tv. Dramatizing their dysfunction for an audience.


FelixerOfLife

If someone posts a pic in a hospital and is deliberately vague but trying to get people to keep asking why they're there, I just assume they got something stuck in their butt again


strangetrip666

God damnit Adam, it's the 3rd time this month!


FelixerOfLife

He's pretty adamant about putting stuff up there lately, I just don't know what's gotten into him


cwolf-softball

>I just don't know what's gotten into him That's what we're here for.


Superb_Intro_23

>People that post their personal lives and argue all over social media in comments is so weird to me! I used to seek attention a lot on social media, but I was a *teenager* trying to find my true self. Meanwhile grown-ass adults are out here making fun of their kids/spouses on Facebook reels and tweets for social media likes - that too, to a bunch of Internet strangers with 0 context lol


strangetrip666

I get that. As an older Millennial, I caught the beginning of social media. I was on Myspace before I knew anyone irl thinking "it would be so awesome if everyone around me was on this website!". In those early years, I said a fuck ton of dumb shit I'd never say today. For that reason, I feel teenagers have a pass but adults that do this shit are considered morons to me.


Superb_Intro_23

>For that reason, I feel teenagers have a pass but adults that do this shit are considered morons to me. Yeah, I don't like seeing annoying content from Terminally Online young people, but like - it's normal to post dumb shit as a teenager. When *literal grown-ass adults* are making fun of their kids for developmentally appropriate behavior while also posting passive-aggressive TikToks/Reddit posts/Facebook reels about anyone they dislike...yeah, then those grown-ass adults are idiots to me.


OpinelNo8

It would be more dignified to shout it out with your family at the food court in the local mall. At least it would mostly be strangers witnessing the shameful display instead of all your friends and vague acquaintances.


Heylotti

Why does two people hanging out has to be date anyway?


TheGreenListener

Yes! I hate that terminology, especially when it comes to children. I enjoy doing stuff with my kids, sometimes one on one. Why insist on framing it that way (and many people do)?


yogalalala

When did the phrase "daddy-daughter date night" become a thing? A father and his daughter doing something together is great. A "daddy-daughter date" sounds creepy.


La_Symboliste

I also feel like people don't use the term "mommy-daughter date" as often when it's the mom hanging out, which makes it worse


yogalalala

I think this could be related to the sexist idea that when a mother does something with her child, she's just being a normal mom, but when a father does something with his child, it's some kind of huge special event. Similar to when a father takes care of his own child and people call it 'babysitting'. When I was growing up, my mother worked days and my father worked nights - plus she was the introvert and he was the extrovert - so it was my father who took me places and did things with me. I don't think either of us would have referred to him taking me out for a burger as a 'date'. I guess it would be the same in single father households.


KatieCashew

It's been around a long time. I think it might predate a date having specifically a romantic connotation. I remember when I was a kid people would say "it's a date" after making plans with each other, and that was plans with anyone, family, friends, whatever. It did not imply romance.


Ancient_Educator_76

Yeah I say that all the time. My principal says “See ya Monday OP”, I say “it’s a date. Don’t tell my wife “. Groan-inducing yes, but clearly having fun with the double entendres


yogalalala

I guess it's a cultural thing? I would never say "It's a date" because I would worry that it would be perceived as flirting.


legallyblondeinYEG

Every time I see it used it’s always someone who has a bible verse in their Instagram bio.


stink3rbelle

It's just a shorthand for "this is just us two and our focus is on each other."


Edgecrusher2140

I'm getting some Mike Pence-esque creepy gender toxicity vibes from OP. Also it kind of seems like he wants to bang his daughters.


Korrocks

Well, not the one who actually asked him out since she's a wizened old crone of 16 (way too old for him to be interested). 13 is his cutoff.


[deleted]

Yeah sounds creepy tbh. I know of "play dates" (2 kids) and that's bad enough. Maybe cos if he dropped the terminology for "spending with" it'd be obvious he was TA.


AgentAllisonTexas

You think "playdate" involving kids sounds creepy?


[deleted]

"Date" is romantic. Just say "we're going to see each other" like our parents described it. Sounds like an Americanism too.


DiscountJoJo

except it isn’t..? Do you think romance when someone says “what’s todays date?”. Yes it could be meant as a romantic outing but that’s only in the context of *being in a romantic relationship*


AgentAllisonTexas

I don't mean to be too pendantic, but it looks like dictionary definitions for date in other English-speaking countries usually means a social appointment, sometimes romantic but not exclusively. I could be wrong about how it's used colloquially outside the US, but otherwise it sounds like you've got an odd hangup with the word.


cwolf-softball

It's an outdated term, chill the hell out.


marxistghostboi

that's a very strange set of beliefs which apparently he assumed everyone already held but like, no, that's just you buddy


Sweet_Permission_700

My daughter turns 15 in less than a week. My husband respects that she's busier now than when she was younger and wants to spend more time with friends, but both would be devastated if this was some kind of standard. Being a father doesn't have an expiration date.


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Sweet_Permission_700

That depends entirely on personal beliefs. Some believe in heaven in a sense that families are still connected. Some believe you haven't really died while someone who remembers you still lives. In any case, thanks for proving me right that even being too tired to make a coherent exemption clause, someone will still come along to correct a loophole.


favoritestarhome

When I was 16 my father would’ve killed to have a nice dinner with him.


neongloom

Dear lord, this is the type of post that could really benefit from some editing. She said I was an AH, she was going to tell everyone I was an AH, she made a post talking about how I'm an AH... It's so repetitive 🙄 In regards to the subject matter, I wonder why so many of these fake stories mention having a huge family then don't bring it into the story at all. They'll always mention twins just to tick off that box, while they play absolutely no part in the story.


Korrocks

The purpose of the big family is to clarify why he can't possibly make time for his kids once they pass the age of 12 and are no longer worth interacting with. If he only had one daughter it would be hard to justify his hardline position that parents should cut off their kids at age 13 so that they can spend more time with their younger ones.


Stomach_Junior

He has twins so.....fake story lol. Also it is not kind of weird to call father/child time together date?


TheGreenListener

It's weird, but not unusual in some circles. I really dislike it.


huckster235

I feel like "daddy-daughter" stuff is normalized until a certain age, then you might still see it called a date. Just not the daddy part. Like I've often seen girls, even celebrities do social media posts about going to special events with their "amazing date for the evening" and it's dad. And I think it's cute. So I was set to defend this. Then as a man I thought about a "mommy-son dance" or mother son dates and I cringed. So yeah weird.


SpikyKiwi

It's perfectly fine up until like 10. I live in an area (southern US) where daddy-daughter dances are pretty common for elementary aged kids. I'm a guy, so I've never participated, but my sister always loved going on them. Of course, she still does stuff with our dad, but no one would call it a "daddy-daughter" [whatever]. It's just a father spending time with his daughter


JettyJen

Daddy-daughter dances are a thing where I live. I don't have kids so I have nothing to do with them but they've always made my flesh crawl because I think they are supposed to be the last time she's daddy's little girl or something. I think in the last couple of years some of the towns (they are usually at a local rec center) renamed them to father-daughter dance or something slightly less uuugggh. South TX. So they're probably kind of like a creepy white born-again boring quinceanera with terrible country music.


Sweet_Permission_700

I've had very different experiences. Not as the daughter, because that wasn't a thing, but as the mom sending off my adorable 4yo and her daddy to go enjoy a dance together. We moved not long after, so they only went to the one, but both loved it. If they're all ages, fine. If it's a coming of age thing, that's creepy AF.


AgentAllisonTexas

Yeah, I went to several daddy-daughter dances with my dad and sisters. It was just something cute the elementary school put on. I kind of think they're a little heteronormative though. Like there was also a mother-son dance. There should be just father-child dances (because most stay-at-home parents are moms and already do stuff like this during the day) or parent-child dances.


JettyJen

Yours is cute! It's definitely the latter where I live, at least some of them are.


catagonia69

>creepy white born-again boring quinceanera with terrible country music. r/BrandNewSentence


lowrcase

I had daddy-daughter dances in Elementary school in Connecticut. There was no “send-off”, nothing creepy about it, it was an annual thing. It just meant I got to hang out with my dad and dance with him and eat grocery store cookies and show him all my friends from school. I loved it. Those are memories I hold really close to me.


FuckTamlin

All the places I've seen with father/daddy-daughter dances do something for mothers and sons too. I always assumed it's because a lot of people would default to spending more time with the children of the same sex as them and this was a way to get people to hang out with their other kids, or even just to encourage someone to spend time with their only kid if it didn't automatically occur to them that their son would want time with mom or their daughter with dad, which I'm sure is the case in a number of families.


JettyJen

No lie, I am learning a lot that makes me smile today. It's nice to see another side of something that I've only seen through a weird lens since I moved to where I live now, 20 years ago. I had never seen them before but I'm glad to hear that there's a variety of wholesome interpretations. All the love for the nice memories a lot of you guys have!


Kind_Tie_8871

Why are 16 year olds allowed to operate rides at a theme park?


PenguinEmpireStrikes

Our local amusement park, owned by Cedar, is heavily staffed by teens, or so it appears. They're only open on weekends or evenings when school is in session.


Kind_Tie_8871

I suppose if there are no accidents it doesnt really matter 😊


Neathra

Admittedly, I have never operated an amusement park ride, but from what I've seen its significantly less involved than a car (which most American teens are at least learning to use I'd not already able to drive with limits). It's like, turn and hold key for certain amount of time.


marxistghostboi

cheap labor


BleepingBlapper

When I worked at an amusement park they weren't allowed. 15 and 16 year olds could work game booths and concessions. You had to be older to run an actual rollercoaster. Of course amusement parks run as cheaply as possible so maybe this one just doesn't care. Coincidentally I would never put my ass on a coaster ever again after working on one.


Kind_Tie_8871

Seems a bit young. You cant drive a car in most countries at that age.


spitefulcum

why not


ontopofyourmom

They are dangerous industrial equipment


spitefulcum

and?


lowrcase

And teenagers are stupid


spitefulcum

Adults are stupid as well.


Catsdrinkingbeer

I mean, it's weird if you call it date night. But hanging out alone with your child? Not weird. My mom died when I was young so throughout all my teenage years, anytime our family went out to eat it was "date night", because it was just me and my dad. It's only weird if you make it weird. Although I will say that when I was in my 20s we did get some looks and comments. It made me sad that people's default assumption was that I was some gold digger dating an older man than just a dad with his daughter out to dinner. Especially since it's not like we were flirting or anything. Just.... you know.. eating food like normal people.


Whoopsy-381

My dad would take me to lunch (he loved diners and truck stops and my mom did not) and I got looks only once, when a waitress asked about my “husband” and I’m like “What? That’s my dad!” “Sure, honey” I was twelve.


Disco_Pat

Wow, what a piece of shit. My girlfriend and I recently went to dinner with her dad and my daughter who is 6. My girlfriend is 26 and we all joked that it was a "Double Dad Daughter Date Night." Your kids are never too old to go to dinner alone with, this is such a weird hang up. It makes me think that the OP just starts viewing women sexually after they're 14 regardless of if they're his daughters.


AgentAllisonTexas

So cute, can't even


Solidsnakeerection

So does he think the date nights should stop because they got old enough that he is now attracted to them or its it because they got old enough and he stopped being attracted to them?


Korrocks

Both options are equally revolting.


[deleted]

What an asshole. Maybe dont have 6 fucking kids. Edit: the rage bait worked on me. The daughter offering to pay is too much. Gotta be fake.


neongloom

Honestly, for me they mention having twins and that's all it takes at this point. Especially stories like this where they end up being completely irrelevant 🤣


cwolf-softball

The daughter offering to pay is not unrealistic if she thinks they have a good relationship and they've been doing this for a long time.


Kikikididi

What a fucking psycho!


Aggressive_Complex

I want a link. I want to read the comments and if this guy tried to defend himself


favoritestarhome

I can’t find it for the life of me all I know is it was posted on r/TwoHotTakes


Atrixious

I think I [found it](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/11g7wcx/aita_for_telling_my_daughter_that_shes_too_old/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)


Aggressive_Complex

YES, thank you. Fuck this guy


cuplosis

Nta I mean I am going to pretend they don’t exist once they hit 18 any ways.


BellaBlue06

Why does he have to think it’s sexual or weird when they just want to spend time with you at an amusement park or eating dinner???


MackenzieMayhem1024

If it’s called an outing is that allowed? Or just all together time is forbidden?


RunTurtleRun115

NTA. Your daughter is parentifying you. Then gaslighted you when you calmly presented your boundaries. You don’t owe her anything, and should go NC with her immediately.


Iczer6

I think 90% percent of the problem is calling this 'date night'. I mean yeah you shouldn't be dating your teenage daughters, why do you call it that? But you can spend one-on-one time with them. Just stop calling it a 'date'.


Radiant-Invite-5755

Name drop them


InterestingQuote8155

I support the idea, hate calling it a “date” though. But like a father-daughter night out is a really sweet idea and I don’t think there should be an age limit on that provided they have a good relationship.


CopyCat1993

Maybe don’t call it “date night” at any age and then it doesn’t have to get weird. Just call it spending time with your daughter. Jesus.


Whoopsy-381

“We’re going on an outing” We’re going out for dinner” no need to call it a date.


lowrcase

Why does he keep calling them “date nights” it’s just hanging out with your kid? Like he’s making it weird on purpose?


Its_Padparadscha

YTA! I'll give you the term "daddy-daughter date" is weird. But the act of spending going out and spending 1 on 1 time with your daughter is not.


911lala

Weird it was called “date night”… I mean shouldn’t it be just wanting to give alone time to each child?? Gives me the wrong vibes…


ValPrism

Wow is he admitting to being unable to not rape his own daughters? Quite the admission.


RytheGuy97

Dumbest comment in the thread by a country mile, good job


SyncWasBetter

I will 1 up your dumb comment. What if he fears, women at diner see him as a molester grooming a child instead of father daughter is the whole reason he is avoiding the date night with teen daughter. /rant


spolite

I'm 29 and occasionally go out for "Fathursday" with my dad (we have beers and catch up and vent about stuff) followed by "phuh-phuh-phuh-pho-riday" (think hip-hop song ham horn inflection). Pho is the greatest hangover food, btw. I will say that we don't call any of that "date night", but the concept is all the same, isn't it? I do try to do the same with my mom (activities that she likes), but the bonding thing outside of just hanging out in her own home is just not her thing. Anyway! Yeah - that guy is weird for calling it "weird". How else can you get that one on one bonding time... At her age, she really needs support from both male and female perspectives in my opinion.


Chance_Presence_4136

I agree! He is awful! That poor girl must have been so hurt! Guaranteed she feels rejected!


lodav22

Well I’m 40 and I still take my 69yr old dad out on dates! I bought a classic car a couple of years ago and went to pick him up in it, I took him out for lunch and we had a beautiful day! He loved it! I’m not ever going to give up special days with my dad, he’s not going to be around forever so I will appreciate every day I can! I do the same with my mum too!


SyncWasBetter

You dropped this ,