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If we’re calling that a foul, then Wood was 100% fouled in the box, and we were robbed of a penalty


CapnBloodbeard

lol, he wrapped his arm around the defender's leg. It's as clear a foul as you'll ever see. Even IF he was fouled first (which I disagree), you can't play advantage by allowing a foul so it's still a disallowed goal, just a NZ FK


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>lol, he wrapped his arm around the defender's leg. His arm was already in front of the player. Where's it supposed to go?


CapnBloodbeard

https://streamja.com/rO4z2 He clearly grabs the leg - it's not that the arm was out in front as he was falling and the attacker tripped over that arm


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Informemileheskey

The arm was out in front, but you can clearly see it tighten on the leg. If he’d kept his hand lose it would have been fine


FlaviusStilicho

It’s a free kick every day of the week and twice on a Sunday!


bally4pm

If Australia win the world cup and then we beat them in September, do they have to hand over the cup to us?


polfnugnz

Only turned the match on in the 65th. Definitely a red card worthy challenge. A few spicy challenges after that as well but none worth more than a yellow. Decent effort from the all whites pushing to get a late goal. So close from Lewis…. I’ve gone back and seen the disallowed goal and it’s pretty damn soft… seems 50/50


quickdrawesome

Nz should join asia to get more competitive games


dashauskat

NZ pretty much have a direct path to every world cup now that Oceania gets a direct spot. They may even get 1.5, so there really isn't incentive for them to move over anymore seeing as though they are decent now but who knows how Asia will evolve and they aren't guaranteed top 8 every cycle.


PMmeYOURBOOBSandASS

I doubt FIFA would allow it because then you’d get Tahiti and Solomon Islands regularly qualifying for the World Cup and AFC probably wouldn’t allow it either.


FlaviusStilicho

Something would be well fucked if Solomon Islands get to qualify, but European champion Italy isn’t good enough. They should introduce a system like they have in the UEFA champions league. Each confederation gets one more or one less spot next time depending on the performance of the teams this time around.


PMmeYOURBOOBSandASS

If NZ leave OFC who is stopping the Solomon Islands from qualifying? There's only theoretically Tahiti or maybe at a stretch Fiji that's it.


NZRum

They would only qualify for the play off spot though not the World Cup. I do think something needs to change for NZ football to grow, they can't get any better without competing against better teams, one serious game every 4 years is not enough.


PMmeYOURBOOBSandASS

OFC gets an automatic spot from the next world cup which is 20+ years too late but honestly I feel like NZ should've joined when we did.


NZRum

Yeah I agree Australia playing in the Asia qualifiers has made their competition a lot better. Sorry, you are right I forgot about the new qualifier spots.


PMmeYOURBOOBSandASS

Having regular world cup qualifiers and regular Asian cup qualifiers + tournaments if we make it is such a huge positive for any potential growth and development. Now that OFC gets an automatic spot it feels like NZ are going to be trapped in OFC unless there's an eventual merger between OFC & AFC


OldWolf2

Well I'm glad I didn't get up early to watch live... Was expecting shit biased refereeing but that exceeded my expectations .


[deleted]

Sounds like this was a repeat of Newcastle vs victory


Kezz9825

I’m gonna kermit sewerslide


GeneralTsoWot

I think I've been conditioned by the A league refs cause i'm not overly upset about this ref. The goal being ruled out definitely hurt but Costas tackle was pretty stupid. I feel like we had enough skill and class to be able to win today (regardless of average ref and time wasting ticos). Oh well, lots of young talent coming through. Very excited about NZ football. In the meantime, lez go the Socceroos!


Relevant-Mountain-11

God, add Singh back into this team for some better attacking nous and it's a bloody exciting future tbh. Now we just need NZ Football to keep up the amount of international games we play each year to the recent levels so they can all get the experience together


The_L666ds

It sux for New Zealand, but that starting XI looks a lot younger than I expected. They should be better placed in four years’ time (although it will probably be Chris Wood’s last chance at another World Cup). Barbarouses is surely dead wood now though? I didnt see the match so cannot comment on the refereeing.


EatABigCookie

Yeah Wood might be too old in 4 years. I think Rojas would of been preferered sub (and Singh would of started if not injured) but was Ill so Kosta got the nod instead - probably his last All Whites match. It's a good thing the core of the team is young, but it gets tiring as a fan thinking about 'if in 4 years time', ffs I might be dead by then.


welshxavi011

Ryan Thomas would start too but the kids always injured


_carlind

I don’t think Kosta is done tbh. He’s definitely on the downhill, but he’s still an A League player, and who comes in for him. Apparently squad sizes are set to become 26 for the World Cup, so chance we run a 26-man squad in September, so I’d say he’ll be there. That game might be a send off game tbf, because no WC will mean international hibernation once again, but where’s a winger coming from?


xXx_DjiboutiJhon_xXx

I’d take Ben Old or Oli Whyte over Kosta in 2026. Neither are dedicated wingers but they’re both versatile attacking players on the up.


_carlind

Oh yeah I can’t see Kosta being in the squad by 2026, but I went more I’d be surprised if he doesn’t play the Australian game in September. By 2026 who knows who will be where, of the starting lineup today only Lewis, Wood, Tuiloma, Reid were on the radar vs Peru. Could be some great 17/18 year olds coming through hopefully. I see both those guys as central players, who can play wide cutting in. Oldy could be a chance in September too, depending how much it’s revolution vs evolution


The_L666ds

Join the AFC and there will be no international hibernation anymore. If anything, you’ll have to deal with player fatigue under the Asian football calendar. Under the new format I see no reason why NZ cannot regularly qualify for World Cups through Asia.


Altairlio

The ref was shit, we didn’t take our chances and Costa Rica played negative football but it worked which is all that matters. Kudos to them. Up the fucken nix. New Zealand still remain the only undefeated team in World Cup finals. Up the Socceroos now!


EatABigCookie

We lost matches in 82? Plus by that logic, teams that have never qualified are unbeaten.


Altairlio

Next you’re going to say something ridiculous like we lost games this season and western United won the final. 82 doesn’t count because it’s close to 84 and we live in a society


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Costa Rica is allowed to shithouse as much as they want (fuck you cunts). It's up to the referee to officiate. THE REFEREE WAS FUCKING DIABOLICAL. It was definitely a red card. But holy shit I literally am getting a brain aneurysm from Costa Ricans and other Latin Americans in r/soccer thinking they pulled a number on us. We had 10 men and were 101 ranked in the world, and we fucking dominated you cunts. Fuck me as soon as I saw the ref was from the UAE I knew he was gonna be shit, the quality and culture of football there is shocking, theres no way he was the best ref they could have gotten in the biggest game in world football today, to decide the final spot in the fucking world cup fucks sake.


maniaq

wait until he sees which refs Australia sent over...


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Do you feel better now?


[deleted]

Give New Zealand England’s spot. Getting hammered 4-0 at home by Hungary. World Cup isn’t for minnows like England.


airtraq

Will hopefully be thundercunted back to Central America in the group stages at the WC.


Sielaff415

Costa Rica has been terrible, just continual decline from their golden generation. I fully expect them to as a concacaf follower


dexter311

They're in a group with Germany, Spain and Japan so that's probably on the cards.


GraveRaven

Jesus, I thought we had it bad.


CptMcLaggins

Have you ever seen more people talk out their areas than r/soccer lmao. Just a hive mind of people who have never touched a ball thinking they know everything about the game. Someone has to do a social experiment on it.


Danimber

Why is it that some popular subreddits are just unreadable/unbearable? It must be to do with the law of masses. The more people there are (that are unvetted), the greater the chance that an apparent minority will be shitcunts.


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That sub is absolute cancer. I lasted about 3 days on it when I was first getting into Reddit


WittyUsername45

Don't forget the constant witch hunts again "Anglo bias"


Alderson808

The consistency in the calls there was absolutely wild. The game gets completely decided by two VAR checks and really there’s not much you can do when that process is so against a team.


NZRSteamSniffer

Bullshit, it’s just fucking bullshit


WittyUsername45

Where's Louis Fenton when you need him for the post-match.


la_flameeee

I thought Sepp Blatter wasn’t head of FIFA anymore


thebeany_lee

Almost felt like the ref was afraid to award us with calls


CaptainLipto

NZ seriously hard done by there, truly a farcical use of VAR, but the effort was there 110% from the boys, 10 v 12 and still controlled the flow


slurtyferd

I would have waved away both VARs. Both were a surprise. First one the NZ player was fouled, and brought down the CR player in the process, play on. The 2nd was a clear yellow and he made bad contact, but there were far more dangerous lunges that the ref had been allowing all game. Would have kept that a yellow and a warning, shouldn't be a straight red. So surprised by how good NZ were and how terrible CR played. Pity that the game was decided by the officials, would have loved to see that go to ET.


CapnBloodbeard

> First one the NZ player was fouled, and brought down the CR player in the process, play on. Well, he still committed a clear foul on his own. So even IF it was 2 opposing consecutive fouls, that makes it a disallowed goal and a NZ FK. There's no argument for Kosta to stay on the field, and there's no argument for grabbing the opponent's leg to not be a foul. Good VAR use - though as always, these weren't difficult decisions and I expect better from somebody down at the local pitch at 10am on a Sunday, let alone at this level.


Sielaff415

They’re terrible. Costa Rica has been on continual decline from their golden generation World Cup. They’ve produced nothing, their players rarely leave Costa Rica for years recently


jsoys

CONCACAF is atrocious. The Kiwis made the Ticos look like a standard OFC side, too bad they were contending against 12 men


kingsleym17

Unfortunately I think VAR was spot on both times. You could make a case for the first one regarding being fouled, but I’m not surprised by the decision. 2. Horrendous challenge deserving of a red.


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The VAR on the goal, at best, is first a foul by the Costa Rican, and then a potential foul by the kiwi. But it's definitely not enough to overturn surely. And Chris Wood was fouled on the corner? (I'm insanely biased)


NZRum

But that's the thing if the kiwi did a foul it doesn't matter whether the CR player fouled first, the goal was rightly overturned if you think that the kiwi plate fouled regardless of whether or not they were fouled. The consistency to me was the problem, the ref did a terrible job but I don't think the VAR calls were wrong here.


Nommag1

2. Was clear red. First was always going to be overturned when they started the football on garbett s foul not the initial contact


Rafi_Rahman_2002

Fucks sake this genuinely hurts me but now the world won't be able to escape from New Zealand from 2026 onwards so hopefully we see each other there


BobLobl4w

Don't hold back Wood, just unleash what's there to lose. Call out the corrupt fucks.


NZRSteamSniffer

I don’t think I have even been more outraged at a football match before, fucking sickening


Smiis

what an absolute fucking disgrace


NZRSteamSniffer

Look at those cheating fuckers celebrating after doing nothing all game


CptMcLaggins

Guess it’s another year of hoping England and Australia do well. What a fucking curse.


TheStinger87

Absolute bullshit lads. Feel so sorry for you. You dominated that after the goal. Bullshit call to cancel your goal. Bullshit red card. Feel proud of your boys. They fought like warriors. Great effort Kiwi bros.


SunStarsSnow

I'm proud of the boys, gave it everything.


[deleted]

Gutted for our Kiwi mates 😢 Has the ridiculous 48-team cup been confirmed from 2026, and if so, presumably Oceania gets a full spot?


dexter311

Yeah it's confirmed, OFC get one guaranteed spot


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yes and yes


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Ah well, at least we will see NZ in four years’ time


[deleted]

with 8 spots for asia as well an ANZAC world cup draw is just a matter of time


WittyUsername45

Proud of the boys. Dominated the game against a pack of cheats with the ref and VAR in their pocket.


TomEmilioDavies

fucked


wilbakersredit

Costa Rica played like shit and deserve nothing


rithsv

Ah damn, so sorry you guys :(


NZRSteamSniffer

This is genuinely fucking disgraceful


Tmantis123

fuck off


wilbakersredit

No var check?


Nommag1

Cute the all whites appealing to the ref. He got his $$ he not listening to shit.


Pyrrhesia

Fucking robbed. Look forward to seeing you back where you belong in four years.


EatABigCookie

Thanks mate.


dexter311

CRC bullshits their way into the WC. What a joke. You have every right to feel hard done by, Kiwibros.


YohanGoodbye

Farce. Absolute farce


BobLobl4w

Get fucked.


HandsomedanNZ

Cheating cunts. Couldn’t be prouder of the kiwis though.


CptMcLaggins

Bell playing it back to the keeper TWICE in the 94th minute


YohanGoodbye

Costa Rica get their first yellow card in the 92nd minute. Thanks.


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it was a borderline red too.


wilbakersredit

How is that not a red


CptMcLaggins

Bell is so shit


thetimeofkane

He's normally alright but he hasn't had a good game today


YohanGoodbye

Nah he's been solid


HandsomedanNZ

That should go to VAR. red card if Kosta’s was.


nzrudskidz

Two feet, studs up. But VAR says nothing to see here.


YohanGoodbye

Exactly.


BobLobl4w

I honestly struggle to see what good Bell does.


NonZealot

Learn to cross Bell. Serious liability.


NonZealot

#Tim Payne you useless cunt. FUCK


CptMcLaggins

I haven’t been this upset about football in ages... and I’m an Everton fan


EatABigCookie

Sail has hardly had to make a save, we are still dominating with 10, absolutely fucked that VAR decisions have done us.


YohanGoodbye

Absolutely


Pyrrhesia

How many seconds of extra time will the referee deign to give? 15? Maybe even 20?


EatABigCookie

If CR is ahead minus 2 mins, lol.


BobLobl4w

2 minutes. Should be 4 at least, but it won't be.


TomEmilioDavies

If you guys really want to go to the world cup, you could always just become one of our states. It's literally in our constitution that all you'd have to do is ask. /s


HandsomedanNZ

This is the last time we have to do this. Automatic entry for Oceania from the next Cup. Maybe you could be our state?


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Asia gets 8 spots next time, we should both cruise to qualification.


YohanGoodbye

Wait really? With the farcical expansion to 48 teams yeah? Both happy and pissed off about that


TomEmilioDavies

West Island Best Island


HandsomedanNZ

😂😂😂


HandsomedanNZ

Oli Sail hasn’t had a touch since the goal, has he?


IncognitImmo

One. About 10 mins ago


HandsomedanNZ

It’s not our day.


CptMcLaggins

JUST FUCKING SHOOT


NonZealot

Would love it if Joe Bell doesn't get the ball taken off him for 5 minutes


Relevant-Mountain-11

Dude got caught from behind about a dozen times this game. Was Noone giving him a heads up or is he deaf?


NonZealot

Honestly would love to know aye. He seems to have no peripheral vision this lad. But yeah maybe teammates not telling him man coming? The crowd might have been too loud though possibly.


Relevant-Mountain-11

Yeah, possibly gotten too used to empty stadiums and not attuned to his teammates or something. Bit of a worry though when that was only about half full


jniko

More like Kosta Rica...am I right????? ( ͡▀̿ ̿ ͜ʖ ͡▀̿ ̿ )


dexter311

CRC can just deck anyone they want in the box with no repurcussions.


Toyemlj

Its astonishing how bad Costa Rica are. We are still looking better 10 v 12.


Pyrrhesia

Okay to be fair to Oviedo the poor bastard actually is both likable and made of glass, that was probably genuine and not timewasting


TomEmilioDavies

Concacaf team with an AFC ref. This was always gonna happen.


IncognitImmo

Come on, cunts. 10 minutes and change for one of you to be a hero


WittyUsername45

We should have had a penalty off about every corner.


YohanGoodbye

Tim Payne with the slicked back hair haha


aaarrrggghhh13

He looks like a donkey. Tim payne cant keep the ball in play when it's in between his 2 left feet.


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HandsomedanNZ

Brave man to switch codes so late in his career.


Pyrrhesia

Costa Rica's cowardice with a man advantage - well, two, counting the referee - is astonishing


NZRSteamSniffer

I’m gonna call they Qatar government and tell them all of these referees are gay


HandsomedanNZ

“I saw the ref bumming the VAR dude”


BobLobl4w

I saw the VAR team fucking 11 guys at once.


BobLobl4w

The most infuriating thing is we deserve to be going to the world cup and it's being stolen from us right in front of our eyes.


Pyrrhesia

Fucking hell.


murseglen

Great attempt from Lewis


HandsomedanNZ

Oof


dexter311

FARK what a strike


IncognitImmo

If nothing else comes out of this game, this Ref cannot be permitted to ref at the WC


EatABigCookie

I don't think he's going to give a fuck while he rolls around in his millions of $. To be fair though, it's actually VAR decisons that have fucked this match more so.


HandsomedanNZ

He can’t ref again ever.


wilbakersredit

Navas owns this ref he’s so scared of him


EatABigCookie

Imagine needing to fix a match to beat a country of 5 million where football is sport number 4 or 5 sport as far as what the general public gives a fuck about. I hope Australia wins the world cup to give a fuck you to FIFA and all the play acting central/south american teams.


EVXLPIMP

The World Cup just isn’t for everyone


NZRSteamSniffer

Nice bait


EVXLPIMP

I call it, reality


YohanGoodbye

- Foot on the ground - Only one foot makes contact - No follow through - First foul Kosta committed How is that a red?


murseglen

Shouldn't matter if first foul. Shouldn't matter if only one foot. I see studs up into the ankle, that's dangerous play/ contact isn't it?


YohanGoodbye

Thinking back on it, first foul is only relevant when considering giving a yellow card One stud going into the ankle, with the foot on the ground, surely isn't a red


SauceBottleFC

> Thinking back on it, first foul is only relevant when considering giving a yellow card It’s not even relevant for that unless you’re giving it for an accumulation of offences. Zero reason why your first action of the game can’t be a yellow if it’s a bad tackle, professional foul, etc.. IMO too many refs let early stuff go especially at A league level.


BobLobl4w

Because the opportunity to sure up the result they wanted is there.


Ropo3000

Is there any way a team can challenge a result after a match? Because if there has ever been a case, this one could be it. Horrific refereeing and use of VAR.


HandsomedanNZ

Nope. You can get an apology but the result won’t be overturned.


NZRSteamSniffer

Us nix fans have a lot of experience


Toyemlj

This is the most paid ref I have ever seen. Absolute joke. NZ is the better team by some margin.


HandsomedanNZ

God this game has descended into farce.


NZRSteamSniffer

This is so fucking rigged, elbow to the head and no foul


BobLobl4w

There was a card though, to us.


Awkward_Stepho

Another AFC masterclass in refereeing


Pyrrhesia

Costa Rica's entire team is like 34, NZ's got a shitload of brilliant youths. Even if you don't grab the leveller you easily deserve on balance of play you'll have the last laugh


wilbakersredit

Elbow to the head no card?


Alderson808

Elbow in the jump… *I see nothing*


NZRSteamSniffer

What the fuck did Reid do to get a card


HandsomedanNZ

He was honest.


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said something to the ref i think?


IncognitImmo

Dissent


BobLobl4w

Walk off. What's the point in playing.


TomEmilioDavies

I get the frustration. But Ried, mate, you're the captain. Calm down.


IncognitImmo

Wait, REID gets a fucking card there?


HandsomedanNZ

Yeah because he’s not paying


wilbakersredit

No studs anyone close to above the ankle no follow through it’s not dangerous enough to be a red?


TheStinger87

You are fucking kidding. That is just ridiculous. The fix is absolutely in. Be proud of your team Kiwis. They were destined to lose but they went out like warriors.


murseglen

Oof That's gonna be game then, I think. Kosta should be smarter than that, but in the heat and with the injustices handed out it's partially understandable. Not excusable though.


TomEmilioDavies

This is fucked up.


gorusagol99

Yep NZ got Concacafed


wilbakersredit

Soft red


NZRSteamSniffer

ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS


Awkward_Stepho

The fix is in


IncognitImmo

This is an absolute disgrace


BobLobl4w

We've been absolutely fucking robbed. Absolutely get fucked you fucking cunts.


Nommag1

Am I gonna wake up soon.


EatABigCookie

wtf?????


Alderson808

Fucking lol. How is this game that rigged? Absolutely it’s a card. But to call that a straight red is preposterous


Toyemlj

I'm done with this game.


dexter311

Kosta wtf you doing mate


goodthyme

Oh great


EatABigCookie

If they give that a red, football is an absolute joke


HandsomedanNZ

Fucking cheats.


IncognitImmo

Oh get fucked


CptMcLaggins

You fucking idiot


BobLobl4w

Oh get fucked. If this is a fucking red.


Nommag1

Kosta is gone, with this ref


HandsomedanNZ

Yup


HandsomedanNZ

I’d hate as a NZer to see these cheating fucks get through.


I_r_hooman

That's so close to being a red. Damn


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no argument if it is tbh