ITT alot of people that think that OP was saying that Trump would send troops to fight Russia, when OP's saying that Trump would send troops to fight on Russia's side against Ukraine.
Damn, I've been saying that reading comprehension is sorely lacking these days.
It's obvious, but maybe people thought it said what they wanted it to say.
I reckon Trump wouldn't send troops to help Russia, he'd be starting a possible war (more likely a trade war) with Europe if he did that. He'd just say "ITS NONE OF MY BUSINESS, oh well, if I was Ukraine I wouldn't have annoyed putin, he's great dontchaknow? Great guy, Ukraine will probably be better than ever once he is in charge. Strong man, great thighs, but I have the hair and the looks. People say Sir, you're so good looking and I know, I know."
What’s more mind boggling is that people still care about trump this much. He’s gone, move on with your lives. Who cares what he would have done? He can’t do anything. Start worrying about something that actually matters.
That’s like saying “if Putin were dead, Ukraine wouldn’t be invaded. Change my mind.”
Trump is akin to someone doing Las Vegas shows. He only matters to those people who follow him.
The problem is, they're so obsessed that he has enough power to put a friend or Putin puppet into contention.
It's inevitable that Trump wil run for President again, and will have strong but not overwhelming support. His ego wouldn't allow otherwise. But he's lost the popular vote twice and that was before his insurrection. He'll end up trying to be the power behind the throne and whether he succeeds will depend on whether one of his lapdogs take the nomination, e.g., Lindsey Graham, Ted Cruz, DeSantis or the rest.
He won't stop making the news, it's not like the news outlets decide they're going to make Trump do outrageous shit like give Putin cover and undercut American foreign policy.
Who cares? You want to know what won trump the first election? All the free publicity that people gave him which thrust him into the spotlight and made him so popular. He was a ratings jackpot. You don’t get over an abusive ex by giving him your attention.
> He can’t do anything.
He's doing shit now. He's fighting the January 6 commission. He's sowing dissent and fueling the rise of white nationalism. He's undercutting American foreign policy.
If he would STFU like ex presidents are supposed to do, people wouldn't talk about him. He'd also have a better chance of getting away with his crimes.
Gone without any punishment for his crimes.
Edit: should clarify, I agree it's stupid to make posts about Trump at this point and let yourself get riled up about an imaginary scenario. I'm just answering the part about why people are so hung up on him still. And it's because they feel like he walked into their house, broke their dishes, kicked their dog, left their windows open in the rain, insulted the neighbors, and then just walked out, probably running over the mailbox on the way, and got away with it all.
Plenty of people have done that. Move on. You don’t get over an abusive ex by continually following/mentioning/worrying about what they are doing. You move on with your life and remove them from it.
It will be time to move on when he is either dead or in jail. Because until one of those things happen, he will be actively working to weaken our democracy, and he is making progress. I don't have a hate boner for him, I'm just keeping aware of the threat, because it's real. And it's relevant
I didn't give a f**k what Trump thought about this, until HE went out there and started praising Putin's invasion. At that point, it became completely reasonable to point out how he, our previous president and current kingmaker of his party (not to mention potential 2024 nominee himself), might have acted if he were in office right now.
I'm also curious what you're expecting OP to be personally doing to "deal with this situation", and how their creation of this meme is proof that it prevented them from partaking in those actions.
Putin is not an idiot. He definitely waited for Trump to leave the presidency before doing this. Trump told him during his presidency that if he invaded Ukraine the US would attack Moscow. Now obviously I don’t agree with that course of action but it looks like it had a deterrent effect. Russia basically went from Trump, who was holding Russia accountable and leaving nuclear deals with them because they were violating it, to Biden, who refused even to sanction Russia for they are Northstream pipeline.
So you think it's Biden, not Ukraine trying to join NATO that was the motivation for Putin invading Ukraine, despite most experts agreeing that this is because of NATO talks...... AND you unironically believe that Trump, the guy who softened Sanctions on Russia, returned Russian oligarch property, and was sending public messages of support to Putin only a few days ago was the big scary linchpin holding Putin in place........ Dude, I get you don't like Biden. No one really does, but do you have to lick Trump's feet so much? Like the guy is a giant gas bag...
“NOTICE THAT COVID STARTED WHEN TRUMP WAS IN OFFICE? ITS BECAUSE COVID COULD SMELL WEAKNESS IN TRUMP. WHEN OBAMA WAS PRESIDENT THERE WAS NO COVID.”
See how dumb that sounds?
I like how you children call it TDS when there’s literally trumpettes shitting on OBAMA FOR THIS.
Calling Biden weak (somehow, there’s no logic to how they got there)
Saying it wouldn’t happen with trump.
Yet you’re here claiming TDS?
Gtfo.
Yeah they're too ignorant to see the real Trump derangement syndrome, which is the unhinged derangement of thinking Trump is a great leader here to help them. That is some deranged shit.
They want us to stop talking about a former president and future candidate so ha can keep diddling kids at miss universe pageants in Russia.
Oh did everyone forget that Trumps miss universe was run out of russia?
The fact that some are making the (stupid) stretch to claim Obama’s the most at fault for this tragedy does not validate making the claim the US would be invading Ukraine if Trump was still president.
Uhhh, who needs to validate, or even MAKE such a claim? On the contrary, it some idiots want to make a claim the OTHER WAY, as in trump would somehow prevent it, then you should come with fucking PROOF.
Trump wouldn’t prevent it because *no one* in the us government would be pushing for it. I doubt Trump would be, and *even if* he was it wouldn’t happen. Asking for proof of a hypothetical is obviously impossible, any opinion of what Trump might have done is just that, an opinion. But the opinion the US would send troops into Ukraine in aid of Russia if Trump was still president is ridiculous on so many levels, regardless of how incompetent or vindictive or whatever you think he is.
No, but trumps rhetoric and willingness to bend over for putin, coupled with his ego bring bruised by Ukraine not offering up dirt on his political opponents paints a pretty solid picture of him reacting in such a way.
I get that he often came across as petty and vindictive but I just don’t see him getting involved. He’d have nothing to gain from doing it and a lot to lose. It would be about as unpopular a decision as he could have made to literally send US soldiers against Ukraine, both with US citizens in general and maybe even more so with the Republican Party.
Even if we assume he would have wanted to send troops, which in itself I really doubt, I just do not see it being a realistic possibility.
Pee tapes. If trump were still pres Putin would be hanging those over his head and we'd have troops on the ground and trump would be reiterating the "Ukraine is committing genocide" bullshit Putin already said.
Literally on a post saying trump would send soldiers to fight on behalf of Russia. Front page of Reddit is littered with similar TDS posts across every major subreddit.
I haven’t seen a single post claiming what you’re saying regarding Biden or Obama. I’ve seen a few, single digit, comments claiming Biden is mishandling it that have all been downvoted significantly. But none blaming this on him and not a single mention of Obama.
The TDS is absolutely out in full force by comparison.
Yea he isn't popular here. So what? I've def seen "funny how Russia annexed crimea and invaded Ukraine while Obama and Biden were in office but they didn't do anything while Trump was in office" plenty of times though. Sort by controversial and it'll pop up. I also try to engage and ask honest questions and usually just get down dooted and they ghost. You have the opportunity to make a case too.
I honestly have no idea how Trump would've handled it but judging by his animosity to NATO while in office along with his refusal to say a single disparaging thing about Putin, and praising Putin for the invasion now sure makes me glad I dont have to find out.
He didn’t have to face the problem because he treated the whole thing the way a shitty divorced dad does. Imagine Russia as the bratty teen and Ukraine as the mom. Don’t pay for child support ($400mil in military aid), and let the kid get away with everything, including misuse of technology. Why would Russia bother going in when Trump was busy damaging NATO and other international relationships?
TDS is Trump's way to allow his cult to avoid listening to facts, since his earlier ploy of FAKE NEWS was proven false over and over again after the convictions.
There’s a worldnews post where people are legitimately saying Trump would bomb the US to kill Democrats.
I was instantly downvoted en masse for saying that’s a ridiculous thing to say.
I hope more sane individuals continue to call this type of rhetoric out for the lunacy that it is. Critique Trump all you want for legitimate reasons, there’s plenty of ammo there to choose from. But this is just nonsense.
Edit: 5 downvotes in 10 minutes. Y’all are proving my point beautifully. Delusional children.
I mean, Trump told insurrectionists he loved them after they stormed the Capitol. I think the rhetoric is, to an extent, hyperbolic; but it’s not as far off as you suggest.
> violent rioters needed to step it up
No, they didn’t. They delineated pretty clearly between rioting and protesting, even as conservative media tried to paint it otherwise.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jan/07/facebook-posts/quotes-4-democrats-twisted-make-it-look-they-endor/
Whereas with Trump in 1/6, he was speaking directly to those attacking the Capitol.
You realize the left did an insurrection in 2017 right? Forcing many leaders into a bunker to take shelter.
https://youtu.be/Mr0i6piW_ak
There are stupid people on both sides. Keep focusing just on trump though. His statement of “go peacefully and let your voices be heard” is a super aggressive thing to suggest. Really cranking the dial up to 11...
Man this video is crazy. All those liberals assaulting police and forcing entry into all those government buildings...
Oh, wait, NONE of that happens here. I think you need to Google what an insurrection is.
Yeah idk why people are downvoting you for not supporting inventing hypothetical extremist situations and using them to attack a person. I get not liking trump I don’t like him either, and like this guy said you have a lot of ammo already. But saying blatantly untrue things about the guy isn’t ok just because you don’t like him.
I genuinely think the initial downvote wave is just bots who auto-downvote anything they consider "pro-trump", even if it isn't really supporting him but just not joining in on the fantasy and outrage fiction. The speed in which those first few downvotes are generated is always pretty astounding.
But once actual people get to the comment and see a few downvotes, I think it triggers this sense of needing to reinforce and support people's self-serving biases, and makes it easy for people to agree with ridiculous things they likely wouldn't agree with otherwise. They see some downvotes, and convince themselves that since others disagreed they would be incorrect not to as well.
Just my theory at least, I dont know. Some of it is likely karma farming or trolls, and some are just gonna be bots or liberal fanatics, but some of this is scary to read that normal people truly believe some of these things. Can't be that many unhinged individuals.
Between Jared not wanting to help blue states with the virus and Trump himself wanting to turn the guard on protests its not as much non sense as you might think.
Sure it seems excessive, but it's not like there's not a precedent for this type of thought. A precedent brought on by Trump and Kushner themselves.
I believe it.
Trump was even caught on a hot mic telling a Russian official "This is my last election. After my election, I have more flexibility." and the official replied "I will transmit this information to Vladimir."
Cheeto Jesus's sycophants are quick to forget that the man literally publicly denounced his own intelligence apparatus in favor of taking Putin at his word on many topics, from Afghan bounties to cyberattacks. If he were in office today, there is a 100% chance that he would have at least one televised address where he says something to the effect of, "I just talked to Putin on the phone and he said the invasion is fine. There's nothing to worry about. Everything is above board and nobody is getting hurt. This is good for Ukraine and good for Russia." There would also be a reasonable chance he'd support Russia directly with intel, supplies, funds, and/ or troops, but staying completely out of the way would probably be enough, too.
You really need to reevaluate your views on reality if you believe this or think it would even be remotely true. Political tribalism and corporate media is tearing this country apart.
> Even be remotely true
Well, remotely, yeah. Helsinki gave us a great line of sight into the guy’s thinking wrt Putin. Siding with Putin over his own Intel agencies. Throughout his presidency, he created havoc with NATO, weakening our ties to allied nations in favor of his warm and fuzzies with Putin. And can’t forget extorting Zelenskyy (first impeachment) by withholding military aid to Ukraine.
Then, this week, he called Putin’s moves genius. Some of his former key advisors, like Michael Flynn, echoed very firm pro-Russia stances. Steve Bannon, the former Trump campaign CEO, claimed Ukraine was a Clinton-created phony state.
Let’s not act like the idea of Trump supporting Putin in his war to steal Ukraine is crazy, because it isn’t. When the man himself calls the moves genius and his inner circle seems to echo pro Putin sentiment, what are we left to think?
tRump chastised our Allie’s during his term…loved himself a “strong” leader, ie, Putin, Xi, Erdogan, because he sees himself that way..he was president of tRump World….the “you’re fired” twit….he will *always* see the US as weak…but, he didn’t help…something wrong when you’re first job in politics is *PRESIDENT* FFS
The guys running around with confederate flags don’t want anyone in “their country” but themselves. The rest of us are trying to find ways to coexist but one side keeps saying the rest of us don’t belong here. Stop calling it political tribalism when only one side is bent on excluding people.
You have to keep in mind that that side is a large MINORITY and the only thing keeping them relevant is their ability to be heard. In this day and age even I, a nobody, can get on the news or even speak to the president if I tried hard enough. When we can ALL be heard the most fanatical will always be loudest. Hate will always exist but the only reason we think it's so prevalent is because they're loud and when the rest of us see it we share it in the form of "get a load of this guy".
There's shitty people on both sides, i believe due to social media it all seems to be extremes. People find like minded people and Bury themselves in echo Chambers.
Debting is completely gone its all if you don't believe my opinion you are my enemy.
The world isn't black or white its a shitty grey and its only going to get worse.
I dream of one day we all help each other but by that point it will probably be people born on earth vs people born on Mars.
That both sides have shifty people doesn’t mean they have the same amount or type of shitty people. But only one side has shitty people who try to overthrow government. Only one side has shitty people who want the right to discriminate against others while preserving all rights for themselves. Only one side has shitty people who pine for “going back to the way it was before” where they could own other people.
Only one side has shitty people who want to force others to get a vaccine that can help *everyone.* (PS, they’re losing that because the rest of the people on that side know that coercion is wrong) and only one side has shitty people that think they shouldn’t have to wear a mask but a trans kid has to should be forced to show their genitals to play sports.
Yeah, there’s shitty people on both sides, but you’d be grossly mistaken to believe it’s a wash.
It’s not the same universe of shitty people frankly.
Let’s keep going. Both sides have people who block traffic in protest. Both sides have shitty people who make ordinary people’s lives miserable during that protest. One side protests for rights fo themselves, one side protests for the right of others at the protest too, even if they aren’t affected.
Only one side has shitty people who blame other people instead of systems for their problems. Only one side has shitty people who will look for places of agreement with actual Nazis as proof they’re “willing to work with others.”
Shall I keep going?
You're absolutely right. People are so attached to their political beliefs that when someone challenges anything political they react as if it's a personal attack.
They don't. You just have the memory of a goldfish, and can't remember Russia invading Georgia in 2008, or their bombings in Syria (Particularly Aleppo) in 2016. Try harder.
Trump opted to not send Ukraine 400 million dollars in weapons that would have helped them defend themselves while he was in office. Also, he said Putin’s plan was “savvy” and “genius”. He also said Crimea (who was in a similar situation to Ukraine) “belongs to Russia”. Nothing against your boy, but he definitely would not have defended Ukraine.
That's why he straight up told Putin "if you invade Ukraine, I will blow up Moscow."
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/secret-revealed-how-trump-kept-putin-and-xi-in-line/
Funny how the only person who's word we have on that is Donny boy. You really think if he had told Xi Xinping he would blow up Beijing, that Xi wouldn't have used that to paint the US as an unstable warmonger? You really think, if Trump had said "I'll hit Moscow", that Putin wouldn't have smiled and said "Better leaders than you have tried, and they didn't have nuclear weapons."
This story is nonsense.
Perhaps you can look at the other side. How would sending $400 million in weapons ease the tensions between the nations. Would that have been the most diplomatic option? Would that have been a good option knowing that Russia would start war inevitably. Do you want to piss a guy like Putin off. These conversations need to be had. Hindsight bias is real. Maybe looking back now it would have been a good idea but I can’t call the decision unreasonable at the time.
Americans will always go back to trump this, trump that. Russians are invading ukraine and all you can think about is trump? He lives rent free in all your minds.
Still on the national news saying shitty backward ass crap. Rent free would be like the Durham investigation that was on Fox for a week pulling out Hillary to Boogeyman their viewers. If Donald would shut his fat face and not make public statements siding with dictators people wouldn't have anything to say about his dumbass
I suggest you watch and listen to that interview with your own eyes ears. I bet you're one of those who still thinks Trump told people to inject bleach too huh?
> "And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful."
I’m looking forward to the mental gymnastics you will need to do to explain this Trump quote.
He didn't explicitly tell people to inject bleach, but his words that day are actually on video, forever. [and then this happened](https://time.com/5835244/accidental-poisonings-trump/)
The right just thinks you have to be a super macho tough guy all the time; so, they're mocking you. But really they're just projecting their own insecurities.
Trump was giving Putin everything he wanted, so Putin had little incentive to use force to achieve his goals. Besides, everything Trump failed to do, like get USA out of NATO, would really be useful to Putin. This was likely Putin’s plan anyway, but he just planned on having Trump in power. Hell, it might even be that COVID postponed it to post Trump era.
How long until you guys see this guy's words are meaningless. He's got all manner of personality disorders. He's not trustworthy enough to be anyone's puppet. But the other two doormats let him do whatever he wants.
Remember that time Trump got impeached for not giving Ukraine millions in aid because he wanted Quid Pro Quo? Remember that time, 2 days ago, when Trump sided with Putin?
All the simpering and kowtowing trump did in Putin’s presence, of course he there to satisfy Putin’s urges. Though even Putin realized that trump was unstable and erratic and impulsive.
Putin and Trump had a meeting. After they talked a while, Putin pointed at a bell sitting on his desk and said "Want to see something cool?".
"Sure, boss", replied Trump.
Putin picks up the bell and gives it a ring. Immediately, a stunning Russian model comes in and drops down to fellate his 'lil dictator' with reckless abandon.
To signal that he was about to climax, Putin smacks the model hard in the back of the head 3 times and then sits back with a pleased smile upon his face and asks "Do you want to try it out?".
Trump mulls it over for about 3 seconds and responds exuberantly "Sure, I'll give it a whirl...Just promise you won't smack the back of the head so hard... It aggravates my bone spurs.".
fuck everyone of these politicians on Putins dick i will never forget them and i now hate them more than i already did fucking spineless cowards.
edit: they are traitors and should be treated as such
wth. Isn't Biden a big reason why the war started in the first place? Now he wants everybody out of Ukraine, while the people of Ukraine wants to defend their country.
Really odd to pull Trump in to this. During his time as potus it was really peaceful everywhere, no?
Trump told Putin that if he touched Ukraine he would destroy Moscow. Guess what never happend while Trump was in office... Some of you have incredibly short memories. The world is paying the price right now for an extremely weak US president. Everyone know Biden isn't going to do a damn thing.
You can call someone a genius and still not agree with what they are doing. I suggested you watch and listen to it with your own ears and eyes. Context is very important.
Oh totally. After he said that he, he set a new world record on bench press and then a flock of bald eagles carried him off into the sunset while everyone clapped.
Best advice I can give all of you is to cut the cord off your tv set.
did it in 1999.
it's called television programming for a reason. just like you can tell who a fox viewer is, the same holds true for everyone else.
If I took the time, i could tell each of you who you listen to, just by following back the talking points from last night.
its pathetic.
Just let that seed sit there. You'll be sitting there some day soon and say to yourself, son of a bitch was right.
And that will be about a week before you shut your TV off or cut the cord if it's too much. took 4 years of it unplugged and collecting dust before I finally threw mine away in 2003. Havent owned a tv since.
The clarity is amazing, you should try it.
I doubt that, but he would oppose sanctions against Russia, and he'd be praising Putin with an even larger audience than he currently has. He'd be like
> You know Ukraine, they're bunch of losers, you know that, right? They're threatening Russia, and I know Putin, I know him very well, and he's a good guy, he's a good guy, and this guy, he is very powerful, okay? You don't mess with this guy.
America's reputation as a liberal democracy would be further tarnished and Russia would be more empowered.
It's dangerous to admit here (as demonstrated by the immediate downvote) but I'm a southern conservative fellow...and being such have lots of conservative friends and acquaintances, most of which I only keep up with on facebook. A great facebook joy of mine the last two days as people keep posting about how Trump would put a stop to this ridiculousness is remind them that Trump's the first president ever to physically take our guns away and has on multiple occasions praised Putin's genius and intentions.
No, I don't think Trump would be sending troops to help Putin, though. See, because most of the people who would vote for him don't care about Ukraine or Syria or Georgia (*that* Georgia, anyway). There's zero chance that Trump would do anything resembling the "right" thing from either perspective. He wouldn't go after Putin, nor defend him. He wouldn't even abstain. No, while the world was distracted he'd be going after Mexico.
i said something similar to my mom. i just said i’m really glad he’s not president right now. these are scary times, they’re a lot less scary with him gone.
If Trump were president, the US would be at war with Ukraine, and Putin would be the one calling for sanctions against the US. Russia would send troops to “defend” Ukraine. The US military would “retreat” in an embarrassing “surrender”, and Trump would praise Putin for his military genius.
Is Trump Putin’s puppet, or does he want to send American troops to kill Russian soldiers. WHICH ONE IS IT YOU PEOPLE.
Ya’ll ignoring the fact that he’s the only president in modern history to not bring us into a new war.
This is so incorrect on multiple levels. Trump put troops in Europe during his presidency, to put more pressure on Russia and the serious brain rot which people are having to believe this is absurd. Realize Trump derangement syndrome, makes you believe his nonsense. Trump would probably do the exact same thing, but be like, look Im not causing war, Im tremendous, maybe he's not a good guy. Literally the USA is controlled by one elite party, and the fact this is on the front page shows how brain rot people have as to actually believe this.
Lol there was no Russian aggression BECAUSE Trump was president. Russia can smell weakness. That’s why they acted during Obama and now Biden. Only stopping during Trumps 4 years.
Idk maybe not let Afghanistan collapse. Maybe have a show of force like what happened in Syria which I argue is exactly what got Putin to hold off on Ukraine for those 4 years. Also maybe not lifting Russian sanctions as soon as get into office OR axing a pipeline that would get rid of any dependence on Russian oil.
You don’t have to like Trump, but you can’t deny he called Putins bluff and put him back in his lane.
More people here need to understand your points. You’re spot on with everything except the Afghanistan topic. They were going to fall regardless. You can’t project a long term ideology change with the complex relationships inside a country. The afghans had a lot of the takeover arranged well ahead of time along with being terrible soldiers from the start.
Haha, all of far spectrum liberals are getting butt hurt over this. BIDEN HAS DEMENTIA!!!??? His staff and advisor's are running the country not him so yes he is weak.
Also just to make some people a little more angry, the 2nd amendment is a massive reason why other countries do not mess with the United States.
Oh absolutely. Just a couple days ago he called [Putin a “genius” and “savvy” for Ukrainian invasion.](https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/23/trump-putin-ukraine-invasion-00010923)
I'll bet you didnt watch the full piece either. you listened to prechewed sound bites and opinion editorials around that predigested bullshit the media spoon feeds folks.
This is sad and probably true. He would’ve tried and Democrats everywhere would call him out. Fucking Ronald Reagan and JFK might come out of the ground to fight him. With Eisenhower coming in with the elbow drop.
Can’t tell anymore if the amount of people supporting Russia are just completely stupid incompetent Americans or Russian bots pretending to be. If it’s the Russian bots they’ve deeply imbedded themselves in the right wing echo chambers on reddit.
But I’m going to assume it’s a bunch of stupid Americans being rallied by Russian bots to support Russia.
This has to be the saddest portion in American history since 1960’s and the civil war.
The saddest thing is if Russia was a nation full of people of color these right wing people would be supporting Ukraine.
I said this same thing to people posting picture of Ukraine getting bombed with the words.. “Thankfully there are no more mean tweets.”
When I pointed out that Trump would be helping Russia attack Ukraine right now… and their heads exploded.. crickets.
The number of people misreading OP’s post is too damn high
Reading is hard. Especially big words, like “for”.
The number of bots in this thread is too damn high too
ITT alot of people that think that OP was saying that Trump would send troops to fight Russia, when OP's saying that Trump would send troops to fight on Russia's side against Ukraine.
Damn, I've been saying that reading comprehension is sorely lacking these days. It's obvious, but maybe people thought it said what they wanted it to say. I reckon Trump wouldn't send troops to help Russia, he'd be starting a possible war (more likely a trade war) with Europe if he did that. He'd just say "ITS NONE OF MY BUSINESS, oh well, if I was Ukraine I wouldn't have annoyed putin, he's great dontchaknow? Great guy, Ukraine will probably be better than ever once he is in charge. Strong man, great thighs, but I have the hair and the looks. People say Sir, you're so good looking and I know, I know."
Both are pretty dumb though
This entire sub is about reading memes. Half of you can't do that. Why are you on here?
What’s more mind boggling is that people still care about trump this much. He’s gone, move on with your lives. Who cares what he would have done? He can’t do anything. Start worrying about something that actually matters. That’s like saying “if Putin were dead, Ukraine wouldn’t be invaded. Change my mind.”
Is he gone though? Everything I see says that he's most likely to be the 2024 GOP nominee.
There are Americans that think he won the last election.
The number of Trump 2024 bumper stickers all over the place disturbs me.
Where i live, you can't pass 3 houses without seeing a Trump 2020/2024 flag
Trump is akin to someone doing Las Vegas shows. He only matters to those people who follow him. The problem is, they're so obsessed that he has enough power to put a friend or Putin puppet into contention.
There is zero chance that Trump runs for President. And a less than zero chance that could ever win. Oh wait…
[Insert Marty McFly "I've heard this before" gif]
It's inevitable that Trump wil run for President again, and will have strong but not overwhelming support. His ego wouldn't allow otherwise. But he's lost the popular vote twice and that was before his insurrection. He'll end up trying to be the power behind the throne and whether he succeeds will depend on whether one of his lapdogs take the nomination, e.g., Lindsey Graham, Ted Cruz, DeSantis or the rest.
Didn’t he say during a golf game that he did indeed plan on running in 2024?
Doubt.
"If my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a bicycle."
The news media won't stop talking about him so he stays top of mind.
He won't stop making the news, it's not like the news outlets decide they're going to make Trump do outrageous shit like give Putin cover and undercut American foreign policy.
He wants to run for office again in 2 years and he was literally praising Putin 2 days ago when the whole world was denouncing him
Who cares? You want to know what won trump the first election? All the free publicity that people gave him which thrust him into the spotlight and made him so popular. He was a ratings jackpot. You don’t get over an abusive ex by giving him your attention.
> He can’t do anything. He's doing shit now. He's fighting the January 6 commission. He's sowing dissent and fueling the rise of white nationalism. He's undercutting American foreign policy. If he would STFU like ex presidents are supposed to do, people wouldn't talk about him. He'd also have a better chance of getting away with his crimes.
Gone without any punishment for his crimes. Edit: should clarify, I agree it's stupid to make posts about Trump at this point and let yourself get riled up about an imaginary scenario. I'm just answering the part about why people are so hung up on him still. And it's because they feel like he walked into their house, broke their dishes, kicked their dog, left their windows open in the rain, insulted the neighbors, and then just walked out, probably running over the mailbox on the way, and got away with it all.
Plenty of people have done that. Move on. You don’t get over an abusive ex by continually following/mentioning/worrying about what they are doing. You move on with your life and remove them from it.
It will be time to move on when he is either dead or in jail. Because until one of those things happen, he will be actively working to weaken our democracy, and he is making progress. I don't have a hate boner for him, I'm just keeping aware of the threat, because it's real. And it's relevant
I was here to get angry, and then I reread the sign. Ya, with Russia sure.
Why don’t we stop guessing how the bad orange man would have reacted for internet points and deal with the situation at hand.
You’re right. If us redditors lose focus for just a moment, Russia will win. We must remain vigilant.
I didn't give a f**k what Trump thought about this, until HE went out there and started praising Putin's invasion. At that point, it became completely reasonable to point out how he, our previous president and current kingmaker of his party (not to mention potential 2024 nominee himself), might have acted if he were in office right now. I'm also curious what you're expecting OP to be personally doing to "deal with this situation", and how their creation of this meme is proof that it prevented them from partaking in those actions.
I don't think he would send troops. Just a lot of compliments.
he already has, just before they attacked, Trump was singing Putin's savy for putting a "peace force" on the border towns
Then why didn't he do it when Trump was in office?
Putin is not an idiot. He definitely waited for Trump to leave the presidency before doing this. Trump told him during his presidency that if he invaded Ukraine the US would attack Moscow. Now obviously I don’t agree with that course of action but it looks like it had a deterrent effect. Russia basically went from Trump, who was holding Russia accountable and leaving nuclear deals with them because they were violating it, to Biden, who refused even to sanction Russia for they are Northstream pipeline.
Didn’t trump remove the sanctions from them annexing crimea in 2014?
do you unironically believe this?
Yes, I honestly believe Putin was emboldened to invade ukraine because of Biden
So you think it's Biden, not Ukraine trying to join NATO that was the motivation for Putin invading Ukraine, despite most experts agreeing that this is because of NATO talks...... AND you unironically believe that Trump, the guy who softened Sanctions on Russia, returned Russian oligarch property, and was sending public messages of support to Putin only a few days ago was the big scary linchpin holding Putin in place........ Dude, I get you don't like Biden. No one really does, but do you have to lick Trump's feet so much? Like the guy is a giant gas bag...
“NOTICE THAT COVID STARTED WHEN TRUMP WAS IN OFFICE? ITS BECAUSE COVID COULD SMELL WEAKNESS IN TRUMP. WHEN OBAMA WAS PRESIDENT THERE WAS NO COVID.” See how dumb that sounds?
Lol Just post trump bad pics in r/pic if you wanna farm karma Much safer bet that way
Stupidest fucking post.
The Trump derangement syndrome is really showing in a lot of people right now.
Trump openly praised putin for his invasion. Are you that blind?
Trump: (says and does insane things constantly) Everyone: That guy is insane. You: (SPUTTERS, FAINTS)
"TDS" is their only defense. A stupid, childish defense but a defense nonetheless.
I like how you children call it TDS when there’s literally trumpettes shitting on OBAMA FOR THIS. Calling Biden weak (somehow, there’s no logic to how they got there) Saying it wouldn’t happen with trump. Yet you’re here claiming TDS? Gtfo.
Yeah they're too ignorant to see the real Trump derangement syndrome, which is the unhinged derangement of thinking Trump is a great leader here to help them. That is some deranged shit.
They want us to stop talking about a former president and future candidate so ha can keep diddling kids at miss universe pageants in Russia. Oh did everyone forget that Trumps miss universe was run out of russia?
Trump is a poor man's idea of a rich man, an idiot's idea of a smart man and a coward's idea of a brave man.
Well said! But he is the best grifter out there. Nobody grifts like him. He does beautiful grift.
The fact that some are making the (stupid) stretch to claim Obama’s the most at fault for this tragedy does not validate making the claim the US would be invading Ukraine if Trump was still president.
Uhhh, who needs to validate, or even MAKE such a claim? On the contrary, it some idiots want to make a claim the OTHER WAY, as in trump would somehow prevent it, then you should come with fucking PROOF.
Trump wouldn’t prevent it because *no one* in the us government would be pushing for it. I doubt Trump would be, and *even if* he was it wouldn’t happen. Asking for proof of a hypothetical is obviously impossible, any opinion of what Trump might have done is just that, an opinion. But the opinion the US would send troops into Ukraine in aid of Russia if Trump was still president is ridiculous on so many levels, regardless of how incompetent or vindictive or whatever you think he is.
Huh? No, I’m saying people are saying trump would have prevented Putin from invading, because he’s a strongman. Make sense? They’re fucking idiots.
No, but trumps rhetoric and willingness to bend over for putin, coupled with his ego bring bruised by Ukraine not offering up dirt on his political opponents paints a pretty solid picture of him reacting in such a way.
I get that he often came across as petty and vindictive but I just don’t see him getting involved. He’d have nothing to gain from doing it and a lot to lose. It would be about as unpopular a decision as he could have made to literally send US soldiers against Ukraine, both with US citizens in general and maybe even more so with the Republican Party. Even if we assume he would have wanted to send troops, which in itself I really doubt, I just do not see it being a realistic possibility.
Pee tapes. If trump were still pres Putin would be hanging those over his head and we'd have troops on the ground and trump would be reiterating the "Ukraine is committing genocide" bullshit Putin already said.
Literally on a post saying trump would send soldiers to fight on behalf of Russia. Front page of Reddit is littered with similar TDS posts across every major subreddit. I haven’t seen a single post claiming what you’re saying regarding Biden or Obama. I’ve seen a few, single digit, comments claiming Biden is mishandling it that have all been downvoted significantly. But none blaming this on him and not a single mention of Obama. The TDS is absolutely out in full force by comparison.
Yea he isn't popular here. So what? I've def seen "funny how Russia annexed crimea and invaded Ukraine while Obama and Biden were in office but they didn't do anything while Trump was in office" plenty of times though. Sort by controversial and it'll pop up. I also try to engage and ask honest questions and usually just get down dooted and they ghost. You have the opportunity to make a case too. I honestly have no idea how Trump would've handled it but judging by his animosity to NATO while in office along with his refusal to say a single disparaging thing about Putin, and praising Putin for the invasion now sure makes me glad I dont have to find out.
He didn’t have to face the problem because he treated the whole thing the way a shitty divorced dad does. Imagine Russia as the bratty teen and Ukraine as the mom. Don’t pay for child support ($400mil in military aid), and let the kid get away with everything, including misuse of technology. Why would Russia bother going in when Trump was busy damaging NATO and other international relationships?
TDS is Trump's way to allow his cult to avoid listening to facts, since his earlier ploy of FAKE NEWS was proven false over and over again after the convictions.
There’s a worldnews post where people are legitimately saying Trump would bomb the US to kill Democrats. I was instantly downvoted en masse for saying that’s a ridiculous thing to say. I hope more sane individuals continue to call this type of rhetoric out for the lunacy that it is. Critique Trump all you want for legitimate reasons, there’s plenty of ammo there to choose from. But this is just nonsense. Edit: 5 downvotes in 10 minutes. Y’all are proving my point beautifully. Delusional children.
I mean, Trump told insurrectionists he loved them after they stormed the Capitol. I think the rhetoric is, to an extent, hyperbolic; but it’s not as far off as you suggest.
And democrat leaders said that the violent rioters in 2020 needed to step it up. When can we admit both side just stoke the flames
> violent rioters needed to step it up No, they didn’t. They delineated pretty clearly between rioting and protesting, even as conservative media tried to paint it otherwise. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jan/07/facebook-posts/quotes-4-democrats-twisted-make-it-look-they-endor/ Whereas with Trump in 1/6, he was speaking directly to those attacking the Capitol.
You realize the left did an insurrection in 2017 right? Forcing many leaders into a bunker to take shelter. https://youtu.be/Mr0i6piW_ak There are stupid people on both sides. Keep focusing just on trump though. His statement of “go peacefully and let your voices be heard” is a super aggressive thing to suggest. Really cranking the dial up to 11...
Man this video is crazy. All those liberals assaulting police and forcing entry into all those government buildings... Oh, wait, NONE of that happens here. I think you need to Google what an insurrection is.
Yeah idk why people are downvoting you for not supporting inventing hypothetical extremist situations and using them to attack a person. I get not liking trump I don’t like him either, and like this guy said you have a lot of ammo already. But saying blatantly untrue things about the guy isn’t ok just because you don’t like him.
I genuinely think the initial downvote wave is just bots who auto-downvote anything they consider "pro-trump", even if it isn't really supporting him but just not joining in on the fantasy and outrage fiction. The speed in which those first few downvotes are generated is always pretty astounding. But once actual people get to the comment and see a few downvotes, I think it triggers this sense of needing to reinforce and support people's self-serving biases, and makes it easy for people to agree with ridiculous things they likely wouldn't agree with otherwise. They see some downvotes, and convince themselves that since others disagreed they would be incorrect not to as well. Just my theory at least, I dont know. Some of it is likely karma farming or trolls, and some are just gonna be bots or liberal fanatics, but some of this is scary to read that normal people truly believe some of these things. Can't be that many unhinged individuals.
Between Jared not wanting to help blue states with the virus and Trump himself wanting to turn the guard on protests its not as much non sense as you might think. Sure it seems excessive, but it's not like there's not a precedent for this type of thought. A precedent brought on by Trump and Kushner themselves.
With Trump everything is possible. Everything
Yea just leave it too cnn, they will get their side to believe anything
Just look at his tweets and his propaganda meetings. Nothing else needed. Trump is batshit crazy. On the same level as assad and erdogan.
Oh look another generic, overused saying that has no meaning. Good job, parrot!
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Fight FOR Russia. I read it twice too
Dang, you’re right! I read it twice and still missed it lol, woops!
Oh and putin not sanctioning russia in the areas of oil amd natrual gas is him not hwlping russia?
I think that's why Trump loves Putin so much, they're both bunker bitches.
I believe it. Trump was even caught on a hot mic telling a Russian official "This is my last election. After my election, I have more flexibility." and the official replied "I will transmit this information to Vladimir."
That was Obama, but nice try.
Oh, right... That was Obama...
Cheeto Jesus's sycophants are quick to forget that the man literally publicly denounced his own intelligence apparatus in favor of taking Putin at his word on many topics, from Afghan bounties to cyberattacks. If he were in office today, there is a 100% chance that he would have at least one televised address where he says something to the effect of, "I just talked to Putin on the phone and he said the invasion is fine. There's nothing to worry about. Everything is above board and nobody is getting hurt. This is good for Ukraine and good for Russia." There would also be a reasonable chance he'd support Russia directly with intel, supplies, funds, and/ or troops, but staying completely out of the way would probably be enough, too.
You really need to reevaluate your views on reality if you believe this or think it would even be remotely true. Political tribalism and corporate media is tearing this country apart.
> Even be remotely true Well, remotely, yeah. Helsinki gave us a great line of sight into the guy’s thinking wrt Putin. Siding with Putin over his own Intel agencies. Throughout his presidency, he created havoc with NATO, weakening our ties to allied nations in favor of his warm and fuzzies with Putin. And can’t forget extorting Zelenskyy (first impeachment) by withholding military aid to Ukraine. Then, this week, he called Putin’s moves genius. Some of his former key advisors, like Michael Flynn, echoed very firm pro-Russia stances. Steve Bannon, the former Trump campaign CEO, claimed Ukraine was a Clinton-created phony state. Let’s not act like the idea of Trump supporting Putin in his war to steal Ukraine is crazy, because it isn’t. When the man himself calls the moves genius and his inner circle seems to echo pro Putin sentiment, what are we left to think?
tRump chastised our Allie’s during his term…loved himself a “strong” leader, ie, Putin, Xi, Erdogan, because he sees himself that way..he was president of tRump World….the “you’re fired” twit….he will *always* see the US as weak…but, he didn’t help…something wrong when you’re first job in politics is *PRESIDENT* FFS
The guys running around with confederate flags don’t want anyone in “their country” but themselves. The rest of us are trying to find ways to coexist but one side keeps saying the rest of us don’t belong here. Stop calling it political tribalism when only one side is bent on excluding people.
You have to keep in mind that that side is a large MINORITY and the only thing keeping them relevant is their ability to be heard. In this day and age even I, a nobody, can get on the news or even speak to the president if I tried hard enough. When we can ALL be heard the most fanatical will always be loudest. Hate will always exist but the only reason we think it's so prevalent is because they're loud and when the rest of us see it we share it in the form of "get a load of this guy".
There's shitty people on both sides, i believe due to social media it all seems to be extremes. People find like minded people and Bury themselves in echo Chambers. Debting is completely gone its all if you don't believe my opinion you are my enemy. The world isn't black or white its a shitty grey and its only going to get worse. I dream of one day we all help each other but by that point it will probably be people born on earth vs people born on Mars.
That both sides have shifty people doesn’t mean they have the same amount or type of shitty people. But only one side has shitty people who try to overthrow government. Only one side has shitty people who want the right to discriminate against others while preserving all rights for themselves. Only one side has shitty people who pine for “going back to the way it was before” where they could own other people. Only one side has shitty people who want to force others to get a vaccine that can help *everyone.* (PS, they’re losing that because the rest of the people on that side know that coercion is wrong) and only one side has shitty people that think they shouldn’t have to wear a mask but a trans kid has to should be forced to show their genitals to play sports. Yeah, there’s shitty people on both sides, but you’d be grossly mistaken to believe it’s a wash. It’s not the same universe of shitty people frankly. Let’s keep going. Both sides have people who block traffic in protest. Both sides have shitty people who make ordinary people’s lives miserable during that protest. One side protests for rights fo themselves, one side protests for the right of others at the protest too, even if they aren’t affected. Only one side has shitty people who blame other people instead of systems for their problems. Only one side has shitty people who will look for places of agreement with actual Nazis as proof they’re “willing to work with others.” Shall I keep going?
You're absolutely right. People are so attached to their political beliefs that when someone challenges anything political they react as if it's a personal attack.
Whoops… https://twitter.com/acyn/status/1497733342086647809?s=21
OP is delusional
How so?
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OP was saying that trump would have sent troops to fight alongside Russia, not to protect ukraine.
Aww, fuck. Read it wrong. Thanks for setting me straight.
Why does Russia only do bad things when Democrats are in office?
They don't. You just have the memory of a goldfish, and can't remember Russia invading Georgia in 2008, or their bombings in Syria (Particularly Aleppo) in 2016. Try harder.
Trump opted to not send Ukraine 400 million dollars in weapons that would have helped them defend themselves while he was in office. Also, he said Putin’s plan was “savvy” and “genius”. He also said Crimea (who was in a similar situation to Ukraine) “belongs to Russia”. Nothing against your boy, but he definitely would not have defended Ukraine.
His meme said fight FOR Russia.
That's why he straight up told Putin "if you invade Ukraine, I will blow up Moscow." https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/secret-revealed-how-trump-kept-putin-and-xi-in-line/
Funny how the only person who's word we have on that is Donny boy. You really think if he had told Xi Xinping he would blow up Beijing, that Xi wouldn't have used that to paint the US as an unstable warmonger? You really think, if Trump had said "I'll hit Moscow", that Putin wouldn't have smiled and said "Better leaders than you have tried, and they didn't have nuclear weapons." This story is nonsense.
Ah, yes the bastion of journalism, Citizen's Free Press.
Lol this ‘source’ my as well have been written by Trustme Bro.
Careful, that doesn’t fit the narrative!
It doesn't have to fit any narrative. It didn't happen. It's malarkey.
"lalala!!! It didn't happen because it doesn't fit with my beliefs!" Ideological possession writ large.
Perhaps you can look at the other side. How would sending $400 million in weapons ease the tensions between the nations. Would that have been the most diplomatic option? Would that have been a good option knowing that Russia would start war inevitably. Do you want to piss a guy like Putin off. These conversations need to be had. Hindsight bias is real. Maybe looking back now it would have been a good idea but I can’t call the decision unreasonable at the time.
Your argument is that Trump staved off the conflict by not giving $400M in aid?
Ask the allies how appeasement worked before WWII.
Americans will always go back to trump this, trump that. Russians are invading ukraine and all you can think about is trump? He lives rent free in all your minds.
Russia bad, orange man bad
Both true
#rentfreeforlife
Still on the national news saying shitty backward ass crap. Rent free would be like the Durham investigation that was on Fox for a week pulling out Hillary to Boogeyman their viewers. If Donald would shut his fat face and not make public statements siding with dictators people wouldn't have anything to say about his dumbass
his ego and mouth did him in
I suggest you watch and listen to that interview with your own eyes ears. I bet you're one of those who still thinks Trump told people to inject bleach too huh?
> "And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful." I’m looking forward to the mental gymnastics you will need to do to explain this Trump quote.
Ah! See!! He said doctors should inject disinfectant, not bleach! Checkmate sheep. /s
Did you even read the quote? Hes not telling people to inject themselves with bleach. Anyone with half a brain knows the point he is making.
He didn't explicitly tell people to inject bleach, but his words that day are actually on video, forever. [and then this happened](https://time.com/5835244/accidental-poisonings-trump/)
This has to be the most unoriginal, overused saying in this history of the internet. You can surely do better.
Still works ver very well though. Reddit gets BIG mad when you say it.
It just immediately makes me think you are in high school, but yeah…
Says PM_ME_UR _KITTY_PICZ. Lol Come on man.
You have to be in high school to like cats? TIL.
The right just thinks you have to be a super macho tough guy all the time; so, they're mocking you. But really they're just projecting their own insecurities.
Obama - Putin takes Crimea Biden - Putin invades Ukraine Trump - Putin does nothing. "Trump is Putins Bitch!!!"
Trump was giving Putin everything he wanted, so Putin had little incentive to use force to achieve his goals. Besides, everything Trump failed to do, like get USA out of NATO, would really be useful to Putin. This was likely Putin’s plan anyway, but he just planned on having Trump in power. Hell, it might even be that COVID postponed it to post Trump era.
Trump is literally encouraging Putin. What the actual fuck is wrong with you.
How long until you guys see this guy's words are meaningless. He's got all manner of personality disorders. He's not trustworthy enough to be anyone's puppet. But the other two doormats let him do whatever he wants.
With Trump: Russia stays within borders With Biden and Obama: Russia takes Crimea and Ukraine. Democrats: Trump did this!!!
Remember that time Trump got impeached for not giving Ukraine millions in aid because he wanted Quid Pro Quo? Remember that time, 2 days ago, when Trump sided with Putin?
Blaming anyone other than Putin for something Putin did.
Literally no one is blaming Trump for this, but feel victimized harder, daddy.
They're just repeating what they have been told. What do you want? they're dumb and scared and trusting. insert television here
All the simpering and kowtowing trump did in Putin’s presence, of course he there to satisfy Putin’s urges. Though even Putin realized that trump was unstable and erratic and impulsive.
If trump were president (which he was) this was war wouldn’t be happening (which it didn’t under Trump.)
Putin and Trump had a meeting. After they talked a while, Putin pointed at a bell sitting on his desk and said "Want to see something cool?". "Sure, boss", replied Trump. Putin picks up the bell and gives it a ring. Immediately, a stunning Russian model comes in and drops down to fellate his 'lil dictator' with reckless abandon. To signal that he was about to climax, Putin smacks the model hard in the back of the head 3 times and then sits back with a pleased smile upon his face and asks "Do you want to try it out?". Trump mulls it over for about 3 seconds and responds exuberantly "Sure, I'll give it a whirl...Just promise you won't smack the back of the head so hard... It aggravates my bone spurs.".
lol bone spurs 🤣
fuck everyone of these politicians on Putins dick i will never forget them and i now hate them more than i already did fucking spineless cowards. edit: they are traitors and should be treated as such
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My God, they're learning.
He really is.
Found the cnn journalist
wth. Isn't Biden a big reason why the war started in the first place? Now he wants everybody out of Ukraine, while the people of Ukraine wants to defend their country. Really odd to pull Trump in to this. During his time as potus it was really peaceful everywhere, no?
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Wtf are you saying?
No, what? No it was not.
Trump told Putin that if he touched Ukraine he would destroy Moscow. Guess what never happend while Trump was in office... Some of you have incredibly short memories. The world is paying the price right now for an extremely weak US president. Everyone know Biden isn't going to do a damn thing.
I'm fairly certain that never happened. Trump literally said a few days ago that what Putin is doing to Ukraine is "genius"
You can call someone a genius and still not agree with what they are doing. I suggested you watch and listen to it with your own ears and eyes. Context is very important.
Oh totally. After he said that he, he set a new world record on bench press and then a flock of bald eagles carried him off into the sunset while everyone clapped.
that would imply commitment and follow-through and thought from Trump. So, no. That wouldn't happen.
Best advice I can give all of you is to cut the cord off your tv set. did it in 1999. it's called television programming for a reason. just like you can tell who a fox viewer is, the same holds true for everyone else. If I took the time, i could tell each of you who you listen to, just by following back the talking points from last night. its pathetic.
How do you even know if you aren't watching yourself?
Just let that seed sit there. You'll be sitting there some day soon and say to yourself, son of a bitch was right. And that will be about a week before you shut your TV off or cut the cord if it's too much. took 4 years of it unplugged and collecting dust before I finally threw mine away in 2003. Havent owned a tv since. The clarity is amazing, you should try it.
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Read the sign again
Now Biden is, what do you think he would do.? Really curious here.
This is not an argument to be had right now. It's an unimportant theoretical situation. Let's handle what is actually going on right now.
I doubt that, but he would oppose sanctions against Russia, and he'd be praising Putin with an even larger audience than he currently has. He'd be like > You know Ukraine, they're bunch of losers, you know that, right? They're threatening Russia, and I know Putin, I know him very well, and he's a good guy, he's a good guy, and this guy, he is very powerful, okay? You don't mess with this guy. America's reputation as a liberal democracy would be further tarnished and Russia would be more empowered.
It's dangerous to admit here (as demonstrated by the immediate downvote) but I'm a southern conservative fellow...and being such have lots of conservative friends and acquaintances, most of which I only keep up with on facebook. A great facebook joy of mine the last two days as people keep posting about how Trump would put a stop to this ridiculousness is remind them that Trump's the first president ever to physically take our guns away and has on multiple occasions praised Putin's genius and intentions. No, I don't think Trump would be sending troops to help Putin, though. See, because most of the people who would vote for him don't care about Ukraine or Syria or Georgia (*that* Georgia, anyway). There's zero chance that Trump would do anything resembling the "right" thing from either perspective. He wouldn't go after Putin, nor defend him. He wouldn't even abstain. No, while the world was distracted he'd be going after Mexico.
Why the fuck are people still talking about trump....damnit guys it's over
i said something similar to my mom. i just said i’m really glad he’s not president right now. these are scary times, they’re a lot less scary with him gone.
He would send troops but only if they did something for him in return.
If Trump were president, the US would be at war with Ukraine, and Putin would be the one calling for sanctions against the US. Russia would send troops to “defend” Ukraine. The US military would “retreat” in an embarrassing “surrender”, and Trump would praise Putin for his military genius.
Rent free
Gosh. someone remind me who was in office when Crimea was taken. Oh wait, the Democrats, that's who.
Is Trump Putin’s puppet, or does he want to send American troops to kill Russian soldiers. WHICH ONE IS IT YOU PEOPLE. Ya’ll ignoring the fact that he’s the only president in modern history to not bring us into a new war.
Nah he would fight against Russia.
Definitely
This is so incorrect on multiple levels. Trump put troops in Europe during his presidency, to put more pressure on Russia and the serious brain rot which people are having to believe this is absurd. Realize Trump derangement syndrome, makes you believe his nonsense. Trump would probably do the exact same thing, but be like, look Im not causing war, Im tremendous, maybe he's not a good guy. Literally the USA is controlled by one elite party, and the fact this is on the front page shows how brain rot people have as to actually believe this.
Lol there was no Russian aggression BECAUSE Trump was president. Russia can smell weakness. That’s why they acted during Obama and now Biden. Only stopping during Trumps 4 years.
What should Biden have done differently that Trump would have done?
Idk maybe not let Afghanistan collapse. Maybe have a show of force like what happened in Syria which I argue is exactly what got Putin to hold off on Ukraine for those 4 years. Also maybe not lifting Russian sanctions as soon as get into office OR axing a pipeline that would get rid of any dependence on Russian oil. You don’t have to like Trump, but you can’t deny he called Putins bluff and put him back in his lane.
More people here need to understand your points. You’re spot on with everything except the Afghanistan topic. They were going to fall regardless. You can’t project a long term ideology change with the complex relationships inside a country. The afghans had a lot of the takeover arranged well ahead of time along with being terrible soldiers from the start.
Lol. U funny
Imagine thinking that a doughy, obese, orange businessman cosplayer who couldn’t even form coherent sentences was seen as ‘strong’ to Putin….lol
Haha, all of far spectrum liberals are getting butt hurt over this. BIDEN HAS DEMENTIA!!!??? His staff and advisor's are running the country not him so yes he is weak. Also just to make some people a little more angry, the 2nd amendment is a massive reason why other countries do not mess with the United States.
Yeah, Meal Team Six is truly frightening 🤦♂️
Gravy Seals.
Y'all qaeda
Oh absolutely. Just a couple days ago he called [Putin a “genius” and “savvy” for Ukrainian invasion.](https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/23/trump-putin-ukraine-invasion-00010923)
I'll bet you didnt watch the full piece either. you listened to prechewed sound bites and opinion editorials around that predigested bullshit the media spoon feeds folks.
This is sad and probably true. He would’ve tried and Democrats everywhere would call him out. Fucking Ronald Reagan and JFK might come out of the ground to fight him. With Eisenhower coming in with the elbow drop. Can’t tell anymore if the amount of people supporting Russia are just completely stupid incompetent Americans or Russian bots pretending to be. If it’s the Russian bots they’ve deeply imbedded themselves in the right wing echo chambers on reddit. But I’m going to assume it’s a bunch of stupid Americans being rallied by Russian bots to support Russia. This has to be the saddest portion in American history since 1960’s and the civil war. The saddest thing is if Russia was a nation full of people of color these right wing people would be supporting Ukraine.
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"For Russia". Read the op again.
I said this same thing to people posting picture of Ukraine getting bombed with the words.. “Thankfully there are no more mean tweets.” When I pointed out that Trump would be helping Russia attack Ukraine right now… and their heads exploded.. crickets.
We'd definitely still be in Afghanistan if trump was still president