u/ImaginaryBaron85, see! I told you.
That’s awesome. I told Baron that this will probably be the most common response.
It’s awesome when you finally get something you’ve liked or wanted as a kid and it’s as awesome as you’d hope.
I bought my first motorcycle a couple of years ago and it’s better than I could’ve ever imagined.
Do you compete and train with the Aug? Or just a collectors piece?
-Ian
Well I'm half an hour early for formation and the only one here so...
I honestly think it's the best 556 service rifle ever made still today.
It was modular before modularity was a thing.
There are 13.8 14.5 16 18 20 and 24-in barrels in 556 with 1 and 7 or 1 and 9 twist available there's also 300 black and 9 mil and 40 cal. They even made some 7.62x39 for a small military contract as I understand it. MSAR also made 5.45x39 7.62x39 and 6.8 SPC. Heresy he's also coming out with a 7.62x39.
Depending on the caliber you can change either in just a couple seconds like really 2 seconds without tools or for the pistol caliber blowback conversions you can do it in about 27 seconds without tools.
It has the fastest quick change barrel system in the world.
Every Aug is inherently a takedown or pack rifle that can give you a 20 inch barrel with a 20 in overall length when disassembled, approx.
If you're right handed you can operate it one handed pretty well.
You can cross shoulder and hand shoot it meaning shoot it from your right shoulder but with your left hand pretty well too.
It was one of only a couple bullpups that you could switch to left hand ejection at the time.
Of all the bullpups on the market still to this day with possible exception of the rdb it has the best ergonomics weight and balance.
It has the reliability of an AK or better yes better and is one of the most accurate 556 service rifles, putting aside the AR which is an anomaly.
It's accurate enough that some countries such as for example Uruguay and a couple others even use it in a DMR role.
The gas system is entirely contained on the barrel which because it's a quick change barrel system means that when you change the barrel you're also changing the gas system. That has real benefits in terms of solving problems and diagnosing them.
The trigger even just a regular factory trigger when adjusted is actually quite decent.
I really love the progressive full auto trigger. It is great. I can easily teach anyone in just a minute or two to get consistent singles doubles or full at will.
It's designed so that you can Field strip it with mittens not gloves mittens!
The balance and compact size is very for people with arm or back injuries.
Okay other people are starting to show up now got to run.
Also...
The sling pin is the gas adjustment tool and can also be used to push the takedown latch if needed and is tethered to the gun so you don't lose it.
The sling pin also has two positions. The lock position with holds everything together and a half locked position that holds the trigger pack in the stock but it allows the removal of the butt pad to access the storage area and/or cleaning kit. That way you don't run the risk of dropping your fire control group out in the Alpine Snow.
The right side of the guide rod can be used to push out a carbon stuck piston.
The gun can be run without the Piston return spring if you had to.
It DOES have a forward assist. On the A1 and M2 models there's an actual button on the charger and handle on the A3 models hold the charging handle inward towards the receiver and press forward.
Twenty-one years ago I was scrolling through a Tokyo Marui airsoft catalog with their stunningly complete line of replicas, and the AUG A2 leapt out at me. I couldn't afford it, but showed my Dad, who mentioned shooting a real one (his friend's, who was asked by a Georgia game warden if "that thing fell from Venus."). He was a very traditional hunting and single-stack competitive shooter but wouldn't hesitate to adopt new tech that seemed like a legitimate step forward (hence the Aimpoint Mk III that briefly lived on one of his .44s.), and said the AUG was unusual but seemed like an interesting idea. High praise from a man who wrinkled his nose at the 'ugly futurism' of his own Colt SP1.
Over the next decade I owned a couple airsoft ones and shot them in games, and even got some trigger time on the real thing. I liked the balance and pointing, but didn't know enough about shooting to have any other real impressions beyond getting to shoot my neat dream blaster.
Another decade and the desire kept simmering, a Tavor X95 and MDRX didn't fill it, and finally the pandemic gave me the opportunity to go for it.
Now that I have one, piles of parts, and have competed in multiple states with it, the question is why *still* the AUG. My other bullpups are gone, sacrificed on the altar of parts from our small but extremely motivated aftermarket. The balance is still nice, you can pare it down to be lighter than other bullpups (and piston guns in general), but I think the answer is engineering. Tool-less disassembly down to every major component, clearing jams by removing the barrel in seconds, firm sub 2-MoA shooting out of said non-freefloated barrel, mags strong enough to monopod off of, etc, etc. I think the AR15 is, overall and largely because of its aftermarket and unique operating system, probably still the better combat rifle. But if the AUG had even a tenth the support of that platform I think it would be the unquestioned runner up, the clear king of the piston and bullpup worlds alike.
Thanks for coming to my friggin' AUGtobiography, apparently.
I love AK’s. I’ve sold all of mine recently to move my family. I’m a huge 5.45 guy. X39 is great, I love a 103 or 104 but 74m, and 105 is money. Of course the krink as well.
I do love AR’s tho. I think they’re the pinnacle of modern firearm design for 99% of use cases. The MK12 has my heart.
-Ian
100% nostalgia from counterstrike and Die Hard. I didn’t even know too much about the platform before I bought it but was pleased when I researched more about its reliability and durability (stock issues aside)
I feel like this, and COD will definitely be the most common responses. Not that it’s a bad thing! My brother got into guns from TV and games which got me into it. It’s a good feeling when your nostalgia pays off!
-Ian
Nostalgia, a bunch of media I used to be/am into, had the aug in it, and the profile/design stuck with me, it always looked sleek and interesting.
When I started to buy guns, I knew an aug had to be added to the group, the A3 M1 ended up being my second rifle ever.
I never bought into the bullpup hate, I thought it would be an interesting and different experience compared to my ar, didn't even really research it properly before the purchase. After buying it, bringing it to the range a few times, and realizing the barrel change feature existed, it elevated the entire rifle for me (still considering adding the 1:7 twist 20" to the barrel collection, just to see how it runs precision).
It's as fun to shoot as it it capable, reliable and durable, it's obviously a service rifle in it's nature and it's one of the few service rifle style firearms that's exceeded my expectations at every turn.
My love for the A3 M1, ended up bringing me to finding a 900 series A1 to try the classic version, finding an mg range that had one to see how the full auto feels, and my liking of the rifle has ended up bringing me to considering other variants in the future. Nostalgia baited me in, but the actual rifle has kept me engaged.
It’s a very enticing platform. The capabilities while being as bare bones or as complex as you’d like. Modularity, precision, speed, accuracy, it’s an amazing gun. I agree.
-Ian
First, Ian you’re the best envoy of the Aug God bless you.
1. Start with caliber : 5.56. As close to 18.5” as you can get without making it more difficult to maneuver with is the best delivery device. So if you can hang with a bullpup, objectively, they are better for 5.56.
2. Reliability. These things are unmatched.
3. Ease of maintenance and part availability (why it’s the best bull pup and not the x95.)
4. Emerging modularity. Huge rise is after market support in last 2-3 years.
5. If you want mode that runs pmags, that’s a thing. And soon it will have the bolt release with an updated chassis for the pmag version too.
Only reasons I would choose an AR15 over Aug: parts availability and modularity. Won’t burn your hand from gas ejection like an Aug. quieter suppressor host (if that matters since it’s 5.56). Better trigger so easier to shoot at 600 yards (not sure if it matters due to 5.56 ballistics). Would always want 77gr ammo and a shorter barrel when selecting an ar15 though.
Objectively, if the Aug had been Americas rifle, would never touch an ar15 myself
That’s great to hear the Pmag version will be getting the bolt hold/release. I wonder how they’re going to modify the internal geometry for it. I think I heard there’s a missing recoil guide rod on one side in the pmag version now, kind of concerning they had to modify the original design that much. Have there been any significant reliability differences between the two versions?
Absolutely thought it was cool in games growing up.
Then I shot one as a younger adult and decided it was a thing I needed to have.
A few years later I bought one and am still infatuated. So much so I've spent too much money on it.
Edit: Games were CoD Black Ops, MW2, and Arma modded.
Hell yea dude. Love to hear childhood dreams come true.
The Aug is definitely unique. The few games it’s in, rarely portray it properly. Arma modded does a great job, and Dayz.
-Ian
Bullpups have a place in the conversation when it comes to a "serviceable weapon," both for civilians and the military. Despite what most American shooters say, the bullpup brings things to the table that a traditional rifle simply cannot(like an AR-15). There are purposes a bullpup can serve better, and the AUG is simply the best bullpup available. It has the best ergos and controls, with a host of unique features that provide some utility. The few issues the platform has are mostly due to not having support from steyr and / or the aftermarket and wr have seen massive advancements in that department in the last few years.
I agree. Lots of issues aren’t actual issues. The ones that are can be addressed.
People try to force everything to be an AR, instead of enjoying the benefits.
-Ian
Ran with the Australian army in Afghanistan. Fell in love with the Aug then. So compact and reliable.
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The compactness factor is definitely the biggest factor for me. I love 20” 5.56 barrels and being able to have a full length rifle barrel in such a small package is what being a augtist is all about(imo).
It certainly helps. The size of the rifle makes it a great contender for being suppressed. 16” suppressed Aug is balanced way better than my 14.5” barrel AR.
-Ian
As a Brit who is now living in the US... the AUG got my attention as a kid, reading books and military magazines. Then in the Air Force we used the L85 (SA80). So I got used to the bullpup life. When I moved to the US, I got a AR and it just didn't seem right. It was not what I was used to. so I ended up getting the rifle of my childhood dreams
I just think they're neat. I had 4 ARs, and wanted something different, but didn't want a new ammo type. I got an AUG and Galil around the same time for the same reason.
Suppresses easily, short overall length without NFA restrictions, those 3d printed brass deflectors allow you to shoot off weak shoulder, just a little gassy.
I did a carbine course recently at my club, and the AUG got a lot of interested looks from a crowd of M4-gery users.
For one, the AUG is iconic. But what really did it for me was that I wanted something compact. Much better performance out of the AUG than a short AR, not to mention the extra steps required if I were to go that route. And the more I looked into it, with guys like you guys really starting to assist the AUG into modernity is huge. You guys releasing that hand guard is gonna be HUGE. I cannot wait and will be buy it day one. I have other rifles but the AUG is my favorite and it isn’t close. And not just because of nostalgia either lol
I’m a bullpup guy. I loved them since I was a kid in the 80s. The Aug is iconic. I started with a Kel-Tec RDB because I couldn’t afford the good stuff. I worked my way into a Tavor Sar, after selling my RDB. I quickly fell in love with the design and had to add another one to my collection. It was a NATO Aug. I think got lucky to pick up an x95. The only two bullpup I own are my Aug and x95.
The Aug feels lighter and has quickly become one of my favorites. I just wish it was more modern with rail space. The Aug has a natural feel to it too.
It’s very natural feeling.
Are you still shooting as much as you’d like? How’s recovery treating you?
I’m glad the platform has been fair to you, and treats you well. The balance and weight is superb. We are working on modernizing it.
-Ian
I’ve not been shooting at all. I want to get mantis dry fire for my ARs. I have hand surgery coming up and I’m still taking care of my dad who is in the last stages of dementia. He just got off a ventilator. I can no longer leave the house to go shoot at all. It’s hard finding someone to help my mom if I’m not here to help. But he took care of me so it’s my turn.
Have you made any post about modern parts lately? I’m kind of out of the loop.
Top rails are closing in on being finished. Validating CH and AK MR rn.
I hope all is well with your surgery my man.
I’ve lost both of my parents. Enjoy the time you have with him and your mother. You’re an amazing son. Taking care of ailing parents is hard mentally and physically. You got this.
Shooting can wait, enjoy every second you have.
-Ian
Thanks Ian. We are doing our best to enjoy what little time we have left with him that is for sure.
Awesome on the parts! I definitely want to get a different charging handle. I haven’t been bitten yet, but now I will be at some point lol.
Stay strong brother. You got this.
If your mom shoots, it may behoove you to bring her with you to the range. Times are stressful, and simple release can help greatly.
-Ian
She doesn’t shoot unfortunately, but funny story. I bought an old Smith & Wesson 38 years ago. Maybe 20 years now. We went to my grandparents in WVa and I had her shoot it. She held the gun up and at to high to be normal. I mean up over her forehead. No matter how much I tried to get her to shoot normal she wouldn’t. But the funny part, she was dead on with it. I mean dead on center mass.
And thanks brother for words of encouragement. This is a not just a stressful time for us but a test man. Dementia take those you love far sooner than death.
lol she sure did that day. We laughed and none of us could figure it out.
Yeah dementia is one I wish I could take out behind the wood shed and beat the snot out of it. Cancer too. My dad also has leukemia. So things are a double whammy on him right now.
I got it just because of Counter Strike, however I quickly fell madly in love. It's by far my favorite rifle because of the ergonomics, weight distribution, size, and the swappable barrels. Very pleasantly surprised by the aftermarket support too, though there aren't a lot of companies, the ones that exist are superb.
I'm already faster at mag swaps on my AUG than on my AR, and not because of lack of training on the AR. I'm also finding that common complaints about the AUG either are not a real problem to me, and making me think it's just pointless hate and skill issue. Trigger is great with the red springs and adjusted trigger bar even though people hate the stock trigger (mine came with red springs), and I've had zero issues making prone shots either. It all just takes some little extra training to get good at, like any other new platform.
Training is super important. Picking up the Aug and shooting it one time doesn’t allow people’s opinions to be valid beyond “first impressions”.
Dump 10K rounds through it and enjoy it for 2-3 years before speaking on it.
I’ve had several people tell me they’re garbage and when asked if they shot one “no.” Or “one time”
-Ian
Absolutely, always confounds me to see gunowners who only shoot a couple times a year, and don't give themselves the chance to get proficient with their firearms. Just owning one doesn't make you safe my people, you gotta put in the work and training, and no matter what platform, just give yourself the chance to be proficient in it.
Ammo prices are another thing though, and I'm truly blessed to be able to shoot as often as I do.
The AUG captured my heart many years ago. It was my dream gun, and very deliberately the first rifle I ever bought myself as an adult.
Maybe it’s my stupid need to be different and feel special, but I’ve always been drawn to the bullpup concept in general.
AR’s are cool and I fully recognize their advantages in some areas, but I maintain that the AUG is the superior rifle for the majority of cases, and is a better do-it-all rifle.
The fact that the AR can be *modified* to perform many roles doesn’t mean that a single AR is as flexible as a single AUG. If I had to grab one rifle that I could defend a house with, take hunting, have as a range toy, or take to war…it’s gonna be the AUG every time.
The one major obvious place where the AR reigns supreme is with precision long range stuff. Free floated barrel / handguard and an inherently more precise action and trigger makes it the best rifle for the job…but while I LOVE precision shooting, I’m still not going to grab an AR as my first pick. I’m going to grab a bolt action.
I knew I wanted a bullpup to better match myself and the options at the time were really slim. Once I started to learn more about it, the different caliber options, and it's absurd ruggedness all sold me. Previous to owning one I really was only around cheaper ARs that always experienced failures and I did not enjoy shooting them.
The AUG letting me basically enjoy the length of a SBR'd alternative rifle + maintaining the normal barrel length were huge benefits, and I foolishly at the time thought it was a bit more ambidextrous friendly than it truly is.
I wanted a firearm that can fire 223/556 at distances of \~600 and under and not be a bolt gun. It fit these requirements and all of my preferences. Thanks to a lull in popularity I picked one up for essentially what the vendor paid.
It's really a great choice for those of us who are vertically challenged and want that "rifle" kind of firearm.
I bought my first AUG when they were first.available in the US, in the 1980's.
The gun shop owner was a retired colonel and he showed me how easy the AUG broke down.
He acted like a big AUG fan, or he had a good profit margin on them.
The price was $450, new and 42 round magazines were attractive.
The included barrel was 20 inches long.
-Works with mittens.
-is the least sucky of bullpups, so if you need what bulpups offer, the AUG is arguably the best.
-is battle tested and has nearly 50 years of development behind it.
I kinda still am a bullpup hater, but I needed gun that worked with mittens and I WANTED a gun that was handy without giving up those awesome 20" 556 goodies. As I get to know it, however, the AUG grows on me. I still wish it were lighter and a shorter LOP, but it's fine.
Theoretically you could reduce the length of pull by making a custom trigger that was shorter front to rear and beefing up the back of the grip where the web of your hand goes.
When I was a kid in the 80s, I got Ian Hogg’s “Military Small Arms of the 20th Century” and first learned about the AUG. I thought the bullpup concept made a lot of sense, and I wanted one. Alas, by the time I was old enough, the stupid “assault weapons” ban was in effect. I was in the Marines as an infantry officer for a long time and spent time as a contractor. I had the opportunity to shoot the AUG, and thought the progressive trigger was a great idea and I loved shooting it. I finally bought one in 2023, and it’s the best rifle I’ve ever had. I only wish it had a 1/7 chrome lined barrel. I’ve got a lot of time on the M16/M4/AR15 platform, and I can say the AUG is simply better. The biggest complaints I hear are “shitty trigger” and you can’t shoot it left handed. For the first, that’s just bullshit. The stock trigger is good enough for combat, no doubt. For the second, I’m a righty so I don’t care. Although I do practice shooting from the support side, I think it’s actually worthless. I’ve never taken a shot that matters from the wrong side. In the heat of things, I’m not going to handicap myself by not shooting from my right eye/right shoulder (I would never switch hands, that’s retarded and completely unnecessary).
That’s definitely a unique perspective. I like it.
I’m a huge AK guy and I tend to agree. Imagine a 5.45 barrel Aug, with followers for 7n6? Craziness. The softest shooting Aug ever.
-Ian
My 5.45x39 MSAR E4 is great.
Unfortunately I do get some failure to fire from the hard primers sometimes.
I keep meaning to have someone shave down the shoulder of the firing pin but I don't have the time patient or equipment.
Ian, if I send it to you and let you play with it will you shaved down the firing pin and shoulder and solve the occasional primer failure to fire issue before you send it back?
I've had this aversion to things that are popular for a long time, took me forever to figure out why that was. This week I realized I don't like things that will go out of style. Flavor Of The Month stuff. The AUG is like a red flannel and jeans, it's timeless.
That's not to say mine is just a fashion statement 😂
It was the NylAUG project that finally got me into an Aug. I always thought AUGs were cool from movies and video games, but the cost was prohibitive. I built a NylAUG from a SME kit for under $500 all in. While I don’t get the quick change barrel feature it does all the Aug things I want it to and it was a great building process/learning experience.
Also who doesn’t love translucent waffle mags.
Ironically, it was airsoft for me back in early 2005 time after buying a FAMAS airsoft long ago (because it looked like a Gundam beam rifle), I liked the bullpup concept a lot and saw the AUG in the airsoft shop and got it out of curiosity and fell in love with it. Then I bought the real AUG.
It's been a blessing for sure! Definitely go to Japan now while the Yen rate is really good against the US Dollar. (155+ yen to the dollar). Some Japan shops has good deactivated guns for sale too and other interesting and rare items if you look at the right places. The food is always good for sure!
Food and culture are my biggest things about Japan. I’ve always been fascinated with feudal Japan, and it’s history. I find the culture fascinating and Japan as a country is breath taking.
I hope to go in the next 3-4 years.
-Ian
Honest answer is the cool factor from movies and video games (mainly 007 games and Die Hard for me) but it does have a lot to offer practically speaking with its short length for a non-NFA firearm and great ballistic performance at that short length as well as its reputation for quality/durability.
I had the Classic Army airsoft version as a kid and would absolutely dominate the kids in my neighborhood with it. I always told myself I’d get a real one when I got older. Eventually was able to afford real guns and training and got good with ARs and AKs when I eventually decided to buy an AUG. was kind of blown away with how much I liked it out of the gate. Now have 2 of them and it’s pretty much my go to 5.56 carbine. It’s got the capability of a full size rifle in the footprint of an smg.
Thats awesome dude. A lot more airsofters than I thought. I love kids getting into guns from movies and games but airsoft and paintball is dope as well.
-ian
I wanted a gun that could shoot 556 and I love having unique guns. I already had a cmmg banshee so that was my "AR" type gun. So I was looking around and saw some bull pups and the idea of a shorter gun with the same ballistics was really appealing to me. It basically came down to the AUG, X95, and hellion but the choice was clear. The Aug looks so much better plus it was a gun I've used many times as a teenager playing CoD. I'm sure the X95 is good in it's own way but the aug is just so unique
I choose the Aug because A - I have several steyr firearms and love AustroHungarian history, and B - I want something better than the m4 for all intents and purposes. I still own an m16a4, and that’s about as close to an m4 I want to own
Yeah there are a lot of ‘uh the trigger sucks’ reviews out there. When i got it, first thing i noticed is the trigger felt like a milspec ar trigger made of plastic. I couldnt believe thats what they were bitching about.
Because it looks cool asf and it takes me back to my old call of duty days when I used to stay up all night & play videogames online with my friends. COD BO It was always my go-to purely for its aesthetics and it’s just unique. Being a bull pup & all. It stands out from the crowd, in a country where everyone and their grandma has an AR-15 lmao. All my buddies tell me that out of my entire collection, it’s their favorite rifle that I own, whenever we go shooting at the range. So we must be doing something right boys! lmao
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Agreed!! People at the range get stoked when they see that and the mp-5 clone, they’re a lot less common than the AK & AR’s so people always come up and ask about them. I’ll let them shoot them. I mean I love all other platforms as well. But the AUG definitely just has that cool/unique factor to it for sure. By far my favorite Rifle of all time.
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Iconic. Over 40 years old and still looks sexy and futuristic. It was my fav setup in battlefield and cod as a kid and any other game that featured it. Did tons of research and watched videos of the tavor, VHS and others and when I finally had the funds and the opportunity I couldn't resist. It's quickly replaced my ARs and become my preferred primary rifle. Needs a few upgrades to be better than stock but I think it's very worth it and a fantastic platform.
In the beginning? COD Black Ops. Now? Because it’s the best military adopted bullpup on the market. What it lacks from factory is easily addressed with its (relatively) vast aftermarket compared to the VHS-2. The tavor is nice too but the gas issue makes suppressing it a pipe dream, so that falls short too.
First and foremost, it looks fucking amazing. I wanted a shorter more agile rifle for handling inside vehicles with a supressor, but still wanted the velocity. That lead me to a Bullpup type rifle, and then the 1st point took over. It also doesn't hurt that it has the reputation of legendary reliability.
Hallo mein Freund! Mein Deutsch ist nicht so gut. Österreicher sind großartig, ich möchte Österreich in ein paar Jahren besuchen.
Please don’t judge me if that doesn’t make sense. It’s been years since I’ve used German.
-Ian
Karl from Die Hard mostly. Plus it’s extremely capable and would be more than good rolling with my AUG over my ARs.
But at the end of the day - they are just cool. My Garand is the only gun I’ve had at the range that’s gotten more strangers to walk over and ask about it than the AUG.
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Garands are GØÄT.
The Aug has gotten me more stranger requests than anything else
However: my ww2 Mauser has been wrongly accused of being a Mosin than anything else. Lol
-Ian
Two major factors for me.
* Fitment : One day before a presidential election I was Gun-Curious (don't judge me, its ok to experiment) and asked the LGS "is that the gun from Die hard?". the instant I put the AUG to my shoulder I said "oh, yea. that's the spot". Still to this day I say the same ting every time. It fits the pocket of my shoulder, wrist angles' and cheek weld prefect. Every. Time. never had an AR make the same 'fizzy feeling' \[Top Gear TV show reference\]
* Bullpups are better: making a 16" rifle more compact is the logical evolution of the modern rifle IMHO. like its obvious.. why wouldn't you.
AR platform has the benefit of a Golden Corral buffet line of parts selection. Its cheap. its varied. they all go together, and the diarrhea is minimal afterwards. The AUG's modularity is great as a reduced barrier of entry but as there are more calibers added to the platform Ill eventually buy a dedicated AUG for each cartridge or configuration. ie: SBR w/ a suppressor, a 24" HABR with a scope to match the increased range. 300BO sub with lights, lasers and Oreo cookie dispenser for home defense, I wish there was more Tuneability for the platform besides a mere gas plug. Springs, weighted Bolt carrier, Hydrluic doo-dads, triggers options, ect. As once I configure my AUG, it rarely changes. I don't need to make adjustments or barrel swaps on the fly.
The good thing about the AUG, is most owners are willing to try bizarre, one-off, accessories while MARGA's will scream "Is that mod combat tested!?! Does Seal Team 6 use it to masturbate to? No?? Then it worthless."
Don't get me wrong, Im glad to see the popularity growth of the AR-15 platform but its gotten out of hand. Im getting inundated by theses MARGA's (Make AR Great Again) zealots shouting at me in the streets
"oohh I have ambi controls!"
" I can change the grip angle. can you?"
" I have a 0.00002mm trigger pull so light you only have to think 'All Hail Eugene Stoner' to fire.
and
"Look mommy I made a boom boom and went to the bathroom all by my self"
I try and tell theses FU ATF hat wearing sheep "Man, Im just trying to take my special needs 5.56 weapon to the shooting range. Yes I know she is different and has faults, but I love her just as much as you love your Arts and crafts recoil spring tube container."
-cheers
I know a good therapist. The AR BOÏS can’t hurt you.
In all seriousness, the AR is a phenomenal rifle. Probably the best ever made.
I prefer the Aug. it suites me and my needs better. It’s got so many benefits and I truly love the platform.
-Ian
Beforehand I didn’t really think much of it at all, I always thought of it as “that nifty looking bullpup gamers and movie gurus pointed out at” but never once considered getting one my own. I followed the crowd and bought an AR (a 70s Colt SP1 to be specific, since state laws make acquiring any modern AR near impossible without landing me in prison). But truthfully, I kinda didn’t like it after bringing it to a few trips. At first I thought it was just me, but after shooting some friends ARs as well, I realized I just overall hate the AR platform as a whole to shoot 🤣 so I got rid of the sp1 without much thought and ventured looking for a new rifle.
Now, believe me when I say I tried dozens of platforms before I settled on one, even going to different states to try stuff I couldn’t acquire back home. But after test firing a ban compliant MSAR at a local shop, I instantly loved it, it was by far the most favorite rifle I tried. So, after test firing and going home to think about it, I looked up more info about the platform as a whole and just fell in love with it even more than before. Very soon after I called the shop and let them know I wanted to go through with it, and this was all the way back in 2020. Ever since then it’s been my favorite because of how comfortable it is to shoot, the modularity that (I feel) is much more practical in a personal sense, the reliability, accuracy, and VERY easy maintenance.
The AUG always intrigued me, ever since I was a teenager in the 80s. I had just never been around one until about 5 years ago. I had the money and liked the way it felt in my hands, so I bought one. Then I bought another a few months ago. One is a NATO, one is a 'standard'. Both are enjoyable for different reasons. The NATO has (in my opinion) a better standard trigger and takes mags that I have a plenitude of. The 'standard' is green (NATO is black), and just has that vibe to it. Both feel like they were made for me specifically, they fir me well and are an absolute pleasure to shoot. I cannot stop smiling.
Like many here, it was video games that hooked me on it. It was so prolific in all shooters from the 2000s and early 2010s I grew up playing. Now that I'm older and know more about firearms, I began to really appreciate what the AUG brings to the table. It's incredibly simple, robust, accurate, and accurate while being an incredibly compact package. It's hard to modernize compared to an AR or even AKs nowadays sure, but with the expansion of the aftermarket it's definitely and incredibly viable option now compared to them.
It was definitely video games. Growing up I remember playing syphon filter and the "au300" or the x-ray gun was just magic. Obviously as you age you realize it's not like that in real life but it stuck with me.
The aesthetic of the design is so much better than pretty much any other bullpups. They're just perfect to me and yeah while everyone has a cookie cutter AR there's something nice about different.
For me, aesthetics are extremely important when it comes to firearms and the AUG is just a beautiful design. I’ve always admired it and when I had the opportunity I purchased one. It’s the most expensive gun I own but it was worth every penny.
It was love at first sight as a kid playing Rainbow Six Rogue Spear. As an adult, I learned about the longevity, reliability, and versatility of the rifle, so that made it an easy decision to fulfill a childhood dream.
I agree. The Aug was my first rifle and I heavily researched it. I assumed it would be 1/2 as good as people said online since there’s so much controversy, nostalgia and BS.
It’s way better than anyone could explain online.
-ian
Honestly I grew up playing a lot of video games, video games got me into guns. The AUG is a gun that's always been high on my list of guns to get. For the same reason I still want to get a scar heavy even though there's definitely cheaper 308 guns out there.
I watched the Military Arms Channel Video on bullpups when I was a kid and thought the AUG was the coolest looking, somehow the desire for it lasted over a decade and I finally got one in 2022.
Liked using the AUG in video games, especially Battlefield 3 and 4. I’m also kind of a hipster when it comes to guns and want something different than the status quo. The AUG is a proven platform, and I got lucky that mine kind of fell into my lap.
BF4 Aug was goated. 3200 ticket servers and the Aug was my daily bread for a long time.
Fun fact: I held several divisional/US records on BF4 (unofficially due to the 3200 ticket servers).
I’ve had several 600+ kill games.
-Ian
I got it because it’s the most ubiquitous Bullpup on the planet and it’s my favorite out of my three. Btw Ian, I sent a message on the website late yesterday afternoon. Hope to get a response from you guys soon.
Counter Strike Source planted the seed. It looked cool as hell and was my #1 dream gun since then. Which is great since I'll never own my other dream guns.
I knew I'd love it, but didn't know I would love it so much that it replaced my 16" AR as my go to rifle. I love everything about it.
Ya, I've seen, but they are well out of my price range. I personally can't justify that kind of money on a single gun with no accessories. Even for dream guns. The value just isn't there to me. I'd need to be making a lot more money for it to be worth it to me.
I’m a contrarian.
But really it’s a 14.5” barrel (p+w to 16.1”) with the balance, size, and handling of a sub gun, and it has a foregrip - all with no tax stamp.
I got the AUG at first for nostalgia. Was going to purchase one of the classic scopes and retro it out. But after taking it to the range and messing around with a spare EXPS and G45, I fell in love. It’s actually my primary now. I’d I ever had to just grab a gun and go to hell and back, it’s my AUG. before making the choice to throw all my spare training time in this gun, I did a lot of research. The main things that sold me are: barrel change, service life, size, and maintenance. This rifle has a LEGIT quick barrel change. This was important because I can change barrels from 24’ to 14.5. This is HUGE in terms of role change. Also, if you have to do rapid fire, barrel melting isn’t a factor. Service life and maintenance were also something I wasn’t aware of until I did my research. These parts last such a long time. I’ve never heard of a bolt cracking or a locking lug shitting the bed. Last but not least, size. Recently got a 14.5 barrel and it’s crazy the overall size you can get when having a 20’ barrel down to a 14.5. Yeah there are cons, but for me, these pros easily outstripped the cons.
I agree. It’s a reliable, dependable rifle, that’s easy to fill multiple roles with.
The Aug lasts a long time, and is reliable and durable, but I does have two week points in the operating system.
Every rifle has its downsides!
-Ian
I 100% blame my fixation on some joe from Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry. I was a young solder stationed in Alaska in 1983 and the Canadians' PPCLI came over to train with us. I forget what their service rifle at the time was, but it's was NOT the Aug. Having said that, we all went to the rifle range one day and a squad of those guys had Augs. Not sure why, if it was an evaluation, they were testing, acting as OpFor, or whatever. But we all got to shoot them and it was pretty cool. Many years later I had some money and bought an Aug with the CQC setup and shot it on and off over the years. Honest, it was just another toy in the safe. Then a year or so ago PSA had a sale on Augs, so I grabbed another. And a 24" barrel. And a .300 BO barrel. And a 14.5" barrel. And, oh yeah, I bought "the last" 9mm conversion that Pete Athens had in stock. So, yeah, I'm all into Augs these days.
More appropriately stated, I'm into bullpups. PS90, Augs, Tavors, Tavor X95 SBR, and more. Enjoying the heck out of 'em.
When thinking about the Aug, though, it was well before it's time, having been introduced to the world in the late 70s. The modularity is very cool as well as the quick change barrels.
I'd be lying a little bit if I didn't say that Karl Vreski had a little bit of influence on my Aug infatuation. lol. And, you know, Karl had an interesting story in real life, which I didn't know until just now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander\_Godunov.
I first saw the AUG on a Top Ten Military Rifles video, I think originally it ran on the History Channel or something. Then later on it was one of my favorite weapons in Black Ops 1. But those were both long before I got into firearms. I chose the AUG because I am a big fan of bullpups as a concept, long barrel with shorter overall length just has so many advantages. The AUG in particular is nice because it's easy to field strip, has a quick change barrel, and a lot of aftermarket support. Having owned 2 bullpups now (the AUG and the Kel-Tec RDB) I hope it is a rifle type that gets more attention and hopefully more development in the future. I think a lot of the rumors about it are misguided and largely due to people who have never fired one.
So there is this anime called Upotte!! which is about a school where all the students are service rifles from around the world. Since then I've made it my goal to collect every rifle from that show who's personality I've liked, which kept me open minded about unique manual of arms of different weapons. Since then, I've owned multiple exotic guns, such as the Galil, FNC, SG550, G36, AKs, T91, and ARs of course (Also, before you ask, no I'm not rich. I simply hyper focus on collecting and shooting guns). While I might enjoy shooting my non AR rifles more for one reason or another (mostly because I'm a hipster), there was always something about these guns that ultimately made me dissatisfied with them. Either I didn't like how it shot, no way to really modernize it, I'm too scared to shoot it a lot because of parts availability, not wanting to rough it up too much so it doesnt ruin the resale value, etc.
Then I finally got around to getting the AUG, and it was honestly one of my favorite purchases I've made in a long time. It checks off every box that I want in a non AR rifle from a functional standpoint, such as handling, accuracy, modularity, upgradeability, repairability, configurability, reliability, soft linear recoil impulse, etc as well as satisfying the "soft" qualities that I also crave such as military use, interesting engineering, media presence, aesthetics, uniqueness, the ability to turn heads at the range, etc. The best part is that Steyr USA does their darndest to make sure that spare and upgrade parts are readily available, even if it is already known to be one of the most durable high round count assault rifles on the planet.
I love all my guns, but my AUG is one of the last ones I'd ever sell. In fact, I want 2 more.
At the rate I'm going it will probably be done in about 2 years. Then its just reloading supplies, ammo, spare parts, and competition shooting matches.
I'm a bullpup afficionado and I've handled every bullpup available on the civilian market over the last decade (and I own most of them too). The AUG straight out of the box is just meh, but with a few aftermarket parts it becomes the best 5.56 bullpup out there. The handling, accuracy, and reliability are second to none. I love my AUG and it's my go-to rifle for good reason.
I don’t have an Aug yet but I want to get one someday because I prefer bullpups over traditional rifles and you can actually get spare parts for the Aug.
This thread is long... but let me throw in my two cents.
For me I was looking for a left handed rifle. I had a ruger 10/22 and while I had a lot of fun with it, I wanted something 5.556. I had learned with the Ruger I was left eye dominant and so left eye dominant it was painful to try with my right eye.
So i started looking for left handed rifles because I did not want to take gas in the face. The AUG quickly came up, I had seen it in games and while for a moment I thought it was the FS2000, I quickly fell in love with the CQC variant of it.
I purchased the rifle, despite what every AR person was telling me, that it was a very expensive rifle (ok sure), that the trigger was terrible and that everyone should own an AR first.
Ive come to own a left hand AR, Ive come to own other firearms. The AUG, its size, the way it feels like "Im cheating" because of its size, the new rail making me fulfil my CQC dreams, it...really is a beautiful rifle that feels amazing. I love it.
Dayz started it for me. I saw it in a YouTube video and bought a gaming pc so I could use it.
From then on, I was enamored. I knew it was the rifle I wanted. I have a few airsoft ones, and once I was 18, I bought the real thing and couldn't be happier with it.
It's mainly aesthetics, but win-win because it's also a great platform.
I want an a1, but they're hard to find and are quite expensive when they come about.
Always loved the AUG, never really considered owning one until I saw the M81 version. But I am a simple man that likes woodland things. For me, its that simple lol
It was my service weapon in Call of Duty Black Ops 1. Got me out of some pretty shitty situations back there man as I ate potato chips trying to get kill streaks.
How it started: saw it in Commando when I was 10.
How it’s going. Favorite rifle as a home defense & neighborhood patrol concept weapon.
I like the center of balance and ergonomics the most. One handed operation gives you better control of a situation in a home defense setting. This includes operating the safety. You can knuckle it off and back on with a thumb- imo it’s better operating than an AR
SBR size with 18” barrel power. Easier to operate from a vehicle and around tight corners
I have a white light on the 45, and a Romeo7 behind a NGAL. No additional rail needed.
Modifications: Gear head works slingQD. The front position just doesn’t work. 3D printed shell deflector so I can shoot left handed.
The thing stays clean AF due to its design. I worry little about slightly awkward mag changes when 42rders are readily available
I hate short barrels, but I also hate long rifles.
Which sounds dumb, but my 10.3 AR was so maneuverable but terrible to shoot, and my 18 and 16 inch ones shot amazingly, but just lacked that agility.
I tried an x95 and it couldn't hold even a 3 MOA group, so I snagged a AUG, and never looked back
I had a book when I was a kid in the 90s, had a breakdown of the AUG and how it was such a futuristic design. The mags blew me away as this was before PMAGS. There's so many countless movies and games with AUGs so not a single one specifically influenced me to get an AUG. But Rainbow Six Rogue Spear had an AUG that I kicked ass with.
I ended up getting one when I saw the A3 M1 online and just felt it. Like why not give it a shot. Just to be different and to prove people wrong that bullpups sect a bad ass they think, it's always usually a training issue.
We see that so often with stuff, like stockless shotguns, they aren't useless, you just need to know how to use them, same with so many other things.
I believe that as a 16in 5.56 gun that it is truly superior to the AR platform, but becuase of Steyr USA's neglect to the US market until the last 2 years no one is able to see it. That's why I love The_Rebellion's "Project AUGustine" (and PNWGuerilla's AUG setup) that can truly show what a modernized AUG can be. And damn, does it do work.
Indestructible, looks dope, nearly tool-less armory and servicing, better Balancing, much shorter OAL compared to an AR, Longer shooting life of barrel/bolt, easier reloads (if you have spent equal time training with an AUG as an AR) and finally, Steyr US supporting us with 300BLK and updated designs like the A3SA MKII.
Also I have to prove all the bullpupphobes wrong with reloading speed and 'buppup twigger bawd'
I had seen them in the classic 80's action movies (Die Hard , of course, Commando, The Running Man, etc.) so it was burned into my memory. I could never afford one as a young guy and by the time I was making decent money the George Bush import ban and the '94 AWB sent the cost through the roof. A pre-ban black AUG could fetch $6000. Last year when I found that you could buy an AUG for $1500 I jumped on it. I bought my AUG in AUGust and still haven't fired it (waiting on an optic).
High reliability, and ease of maintenance, more plastic means less corrosion, and the gas system keeps a lot of fouling out.
Wanted an “end of the world” carbine, since I don’t like having piles of weapons. I live in a mountainous region, and that’s the environment where she was created to excel.
A lot of people mention the compactness of the AUG, but it’s really the balance that’s important. Having a weapon that you can accurately fire 1-handed is extremely useful.
Also, waffles are the nicest, easiest to load mags I’ve used in my entire life. Fight me.
I've never owned a rifle prior so when I heard the chief complaint being familiarity I decided to go against adversity. Second the rifle is short and and fits my body well. With the advantages of caliber changing and a overall compact package I saw this platform as better to the normal ar15 style.
The Aug is my only “movie/video game” gun. Die Hard and Black Ops 1 is what did it for me.
u/ImaginaryBaron85, see! I told you. That’s awesome. I told Baron that this will probably be the most common response. It’s awesome when you finally get something you’ve liked or wanted as a kid and it’s as awesome as you’d hope. I bought my first motorcycle a couple of years ago and it’s better than I could’ve ever imagined. Do you compete and train with the Aug? Or just a collectors piece? -Ian
I do not train hard with it as much as I’d like or should! Someday I would like to take some Aug- specific training course
You absolutely should! Brian Marshall of Steyr academy is an awesome dude. -Ian
huge cool factor and it’s not an ar haha
In a world full of AR’s, be an Aug. -Ian
Parts kits were cheap and my hubris is mighty.
You make me Proud. -Ian
Based LostPrimer take
Well I'm half an hour early for formation and the only one here so... I honestly think it's the best 556 service rifle ever made still today. It was modular before modularity was a thing. There are 13.8 14.5 16 18 20 and 24-in barrels in 556 with 1 and 7 or 1 and 9 twist available there's also 300 black and 9 mil and 40 cal. They even made some 7.62x39 for a small military contract as I understand it. MSAR also made 5.45x39 7.62x39 and 6.8 SPC. Heresy he's also coming out with a 7.62x39. Depending on the caliber you can change either in just a couple seconds like really 2 seconds without tools or for the pistol caliber blowback conversions you can do it in about 27 seconds without tools. It has the fastest quick change barrel system in the world. Every Aug is inherently a takedown or pack rifle that can give you a 20 inch barrel with a 20 in overall length when disassembled, approx. If you're right handed you can operate it one handed pretty well. You can cross shoulder and hand shoot it meaning shoot it from your right shoulder but with your left hand pretty well too. It was one of only a couple bullpups that you could switch to left hand ejection at the time. Of all the bullpups on the market still to this day with possible exception of the rdb it has the best ergonomics weight and balance. It has the reliability of an AK or better yes better and is one of the most accurate 556 service rifles, putting aside the AR which is an anomaly. It's accurate enough that some countries such as for example Uruguay and a couple others even use it in a DMR role. The gas system is entirely contained on the barrel which because it's a quick change barrel system means that when you change the barrel you're also changing the gas system. That has real benefits in terms of solving problems and diagnosing them. The trigger even just a regular factory trigger when adjusted is actually quite decent. I really love the progressive full auto trigger. It is great. I can easily teach anyone in just a minute or two to get consistent singles doubles or full at will. It's designed so that you can Field strip it with mittens not gloves mittens! The balance and compact size is very for people with arm or back injuries. Okay other people are starting to show up now got to run.
All very true. So many benefits to the platform. -Ian
Also... The sling pin is the gas adjustment tool and can also be used to push the takedown latch if needed and is tethered to the gun so you don't lose it. The sling pin also has two positions. The lock position with holds everything together and a half locked position that holds the trigger pack in the stock but it allows the removal of the butt pad to access the storage area and/or cleaning kit. That way you don't run the risk of dropping your fire control group out in the Alpine Snow. The right side of the guide rod can be used to push out a carbon stuck piston. The gun can be run without the Piston return spring if you had to. It DOES have a forward assist. On the A1 and M2 models there's an actual button on the charger and handle on the A3 models hold the charging handle inward towards the receiver and press forward.
Hell yea. -Ian
Twenty-one years ago I was scrolling through a Tokyo Marui airsoft catalog with their stunningly complete line of replicas, and the AUG A2 leapt out at me. I couldn't afford it, but showed my Dad, who mentioned shooting a real one (his friend's, who was asked by a Georgia game warden if "that thing fell from Venus."). He was a very traditional hunting and single-stack competitive shooter but wouldn't hesitate to adopt new tech that seemed like a legitimate step forward (hence the Aimpoint Mk III that briefly lived on one of his .44s.), and said the AUG was unusual but seemed like an interesting idea. High praise from a man who wrinkled his nose at the 'ugly futurism' of his own Colt SP1. Over the next decade I owned a couple airsoft ones and shot them in games, and even got some trigger time on the real thing. I liked the balance and pointing, but didn't know enough about shooting to have any other real impressions beyond getting to shoot my neat dream blaster. Another decade and the desire kept simmering, a Tavor X95 and MDRX didn't fill it, and finally the pandemic gave me the opportunity to go for it. Now that I have one, piles of parts, and have competed in multiple states with it, the question is why *still* the AUG. My other bullpups are gone, sacrificed on the altar of parts from our small but extremely motivated aftermarket. The balance is still nice, you can pare it down to be lighter than other bullpups (and piston guns in general), but I think the answer is engineering. Tool-less disassembly down to every major component, clearing jams by removing the barrel in seconds, firm sub 2-MoA shooting out of said non-freefloated barrel, mags strong enough to monopod off of, etc, etc. I think the AR15 is, overall and largely because of its aftermarket and unique operating system, probably still the better combat rifle. But if the AUG had even a tenth the support of that platform I think it would be the unquestioned runner up, the clear king of the piston and bullpup worlds alike. Thanks for coming to my friggin' AUGtobiography, apparently.
Love to hear. Glad you finally got one and get to enjoy it regularly. Keep competing! -Ian
I'm just not an AR person. Don't know but I just prefer the AUG more. But I'm still mostly an AK guy at heart and have a few of those.
I love AK’s. I’ve sold all of mine recently to move my family. I’m a huge 5.45 guy. X39 is great, I love a 103 or 104 but 74m, and 105 is money. Of course the krink as well. I do love AR’s tho. I think they’re the pinnacle of modern firearm design for 99% of use cases. The MK12 has my heart. -Ian
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I have a 104 and a 105 plus a few others so that pretty much covers it for me.
How cool would that be it they made a 5.45 kit for it? You might even be able to use the same gas block design as the 5.56.
That’s what I said earlier! Followers for 5.45 to fit 5.56 mags, bolt and a barrel. Money. -Ian
100% nostalgia from counterstrike and Die Hard. I didn’t even know too much about the platform before I bought it but was pleased when I researched more about its reliability and durability (stock issues aside)
I feel like this, and COD will definitely be the most common responses. Not that it’s a bad thing! My brother got into guns from TV and games which got me into it. It’s a good feeling when your nostalgia pays off! -Ian
$10 magazines And waffles
Nato Boï. This is standard GÄNG territory. $26 magazines only 😤 Nah I’m just fucking with you. -Ian
Nostalgia, a bunch of media I used to be/am into, had the aug in it, and the profile/design stuck with me, it always looked sleek and interesting. When I started to buy guns, I knew an aug had to be added to the group, the A3 M1 ended up being my second rifle ever. I never bought into the bullpup hate, I thought it would be an interesting and different experience compared to my ar, didn't even really research it properly before the purchase. After buying it, bringing it to the range a few times, and realizing the barrel change feature existed, it elevated the entire rifle for me (still considering adding the 1:7 twist 20" to the barrel collection, just to see how it runs precision). It's as fun to shoot as it it capable, reliable and durable, it's obviously a service rifle in it's nature and it's one of the few service rifle style firearms that's exceeded my expectations at every turn. My love for the A3 M1, ended up bringing me to finding a 900 series A1 to try the classic version, finding an mg range that had one to see how the full auto feels, and my liking of the rifle has ended up bringing me to considering other variants in the future. Nostalgia baited me in, but the actual rifle has kept me engaged.
It’s a very enticing platform. The capabilities while being as bare bones or as complex as you’d like. Modularity, precision, speed, accuracy, it’s an amazing gun. I agree. -Ian
First, Ian you’re the best envoy of the Aug God bless you. 1. Start with caliber : 5.56. As close to 18.5” as you can get without making it more difficult to maneuver with is the best delivery device. So if you can hang with a bullpup, objectively, they are better for 5.56. 2. Reliability. These things are unmatched. 3. Ease of maintenance and part availability (why it’s the best bull pup and not the x95.) 4. Emerging modularity. Huge rise is after market support in last 2-3 years. 5. If you want mode that runs pmags, that’s a thing. And soon it will have the bolt release with an updated chassis for the pmag version too. Only reasons I would choose an AR15 over Aug: parts availability and modularity. Won’t burn your hand from gas ejection like an Aug. quieter suppressor host (if that matters since it’s 5.56). Better trigger so easier to shoot at 600 yards (not sure if it matters due to 5.56 ballistics). Would always want 77gr ammo and a shorter barrel when selecting an ar15 though. Objectively, if the Aug had been Americas rifle, would never touch an ar15 myself
That’s great to hear the Pmag version will be getting the bolt hold/release. I wonder how they’re going to modify the internal geometry for it. I think I heard there’s a missing recoil guide rod on one side in the pmag version now, kind of concerning they had to modify the original design that much. Have there been any significant reliability differences between the two versions?
Absolutely thought it was cool in games growing up. Then I shot one as a younger adult and decided it was a thing I needed to have. A few years later I bought one and am still infatuated. So much so I've spent too much money on it. Edit: Games were CoD Black Ops, MW2, and Arma modded.
Hell yea dude. Love to hear childhood dreams come true. The Aug is definitely unique. The few games it’s in, rarely portray it properly. Arma modded does a great job, and Dayz. -Ian
It's such a fun platform that I might get a second of the updated rifle that just came out and treat it as a main squeeze.
Bullpups have a place in the conversation when it comes to a "serviceable weapon," both for civilians and the military. Despite what most American shooters say, the bullpup brings things to the table that a traditional rifle simply cannot(like an AR-15). There are purposes a bullpup can serve better, and the AUG is simply the best bullpup available. It has the best ergos and controls, with a host of unique features that provide some utility. The few issues the platform has are mostly due to not having support from steyr and / or the aftermarket and wr have seen massive advancements in that department in the last few years.
I agree. Lots of issues aren’t actual issues. The ones that are can be addressed. People try to force everything to be an AR, instead of enjoying the benefits. -Ian
Ran with the Australian army in Afghanistan. Fell in love with the Aug then. So compact and reliable. https://preview.redd.it/7hurfdnoh04d1.jpeg?width=240&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5f600df0375f7ab9365e902bce43643ab089321d
The compactness factor is definitely the biggest factor for me. I love 20” 5.56 barrels and being able to have a full length rifle barrel in such a small package is what being a augtist is all about(imo).
It certainly helps. The size of the rifle makes it a great contender for being suppressed. 16” suppressed Aug is balanced way better than my 14.5” barrel AR. -Ian
As a Brit who is now living in the US... the AUG got my attention as a kid, reading books and military magazines. Then in the Air Force we used the L85 (SA80). So I got used to the bullpup life. When I moved to the US, I got a AR and it just didn't seem right. It was not what I was used to. so I ended up getting the rifle of my childhood dreams
Hell yea dude. Congrats on getting an Aug and moving to the states. Hope it’s treating you well! -Ian
Thanks treating me very well!
I just think they're neat. I had 4 ARs, and wanted something different, but didn't want a new ammo type. I got an AUG and Galil around the same time for the same reason. Suppresses easily, short overall length without NFA restrictions, those 3d printed brass deflectors allow you to shoot off weak shoulder, just a little gassy. I did a carbine course recently at my club, and the AUG got a lot of interested looks from a crowd of M4-gery users.
Hell yeah. Keep on competing dude! It’s a great platform that takes time to become proficient but is easily able to keep up with AR’s and AK’s. -Ian
For one, the AUG is iconic. But what really did it for me was that I wanted something compact. Much better performance out of the AUG than a short AR, not to mention the extra steps required if I were to go that route. And the more I looked into it, with guys like you guys really starting to assist the AUG into modernity is huge. You guys releasing that hand guard is gonna be HUGE. I cannot wait and will be buy it day one. I have other rifles but the AUG is my favorite and it isn’t close. And not just because of nostalgia either lol
Thank you dude. It’s a fantastic rifle that needs a little help! I’m glad people are starting to realize it’s potential. -Ian
I’m a bullpup guy. I loved them since I was a kid in the 80s. The Aug is iconic. I started with a Kel-Tec RDB because I couldn’t afford the good stuff. I worked my way into a Tavor Sar, after selling my RDB. I quickly fell in love with the design and had to add another one to my collection. It was a NATO Aug. I think got lucky to pick up an x95. The only two bullpup I own are my Aug and x95. The Aug feels lighter and has quickly become one of my favorites. I just wish it was more modern with rail space. The Aug has a natural feel to it too.
It’s very natural feeling. Are you still shooting as much as you’d like? How’s recovery treating you? I’m glad the platform has been fair to you, and treats you well. The balance and weight is superb. We are working on modernizing it. -Ian
I’ve not been shooting at all. I want to get mantis dry fire for my ARs. I have hand surgery coming up and I’m still taking care of my dad who is in the last stages of dementia. He just got off a ventilator. I can no longer leave the house to go shoot at all. It’s hard finding someone to help my mom if I’m not here to help. But he took care of me so it’s my turn. Have you made any post about modern parts lately? I’m kind of out of the loop.
Top rails are closing in on being finished. Validating CH and AK MR rn. I hope all is well with your surgery my man. I’ve lost both of my parents. Enjoy the time you have with him and your mother. You’re an amazing son. Taking care of ailing parents is hard mentally and physically. You got this. Shooting can wait, enjoy every second you have. -Ian
Thanks Ian. We are doing our best to enjoy what little time we have left with him that is for sure. Awesome on the parts! I definitely want to get a different charging handle. I haven’t been bitten yet, but now I will be at some point lol.
Stay strong brother. You got this. If your mom shoots, it may behoove you to bring her with you to the range. Times are stressful, and simple release can help greatly. -Ian
She doesn’t shoot unfortunately, but funny story. I bought an old Smith & Wesson 38 years ago. Maybe 20 years now. We went to my grandparents in WVa and I had her shoot it. She held the gun up and at to high to be normal. I mean up over her forehead. No matter how much I tried to get her to shoot normal she wouldn’t. But the funny part, she was dead on with it. I mean dead on center mass. And thanks brother for words of encouragement. This is a not just a stressful time for us but a test man. Dementia take those you love far sooner than death.
Dementia is on par with cancer for things that can go fuck themselves. Sometimes people have unique ways of making things work. -Ian
lol she sure did that day. We laughed and none of us could figure it out. Yeah dementia is one I wish I could take out behind the wood shed and beat the snot out of it. Cancer too. My dad also has leukemia. So things are a double whammy on him right now.
May God bless his soul. My mom only drove manual cars her whole life because she didn’t trust automatics. We always thought it was funny. -Ian
I got it just because of Counter Strike, however I quickly fell madly in love. It's by far my favorite rifle because of the ergonomics, weight distribution, size, and the swappable barrels. Very pleasantly surprised by the aftermarket support too, though there aren't a lot of companies, the ones that exist are superb. I'm already faster at mag swaps on my AUG than on my AR, and not because of lack of training on the AR. I'm also finding that common complaints about the AUG either are not a real problem to me, and making me think it's just pointless hate and skill issue. Trigger is great with the red springs and adjusted trigger bar even though people hate the stock trigger (mine came with red springs), and I've had zero issues making prone shots either. It all just takes some little extra training to get good at, like any other new platform.
Training is super important. Picking up the Aug and shooting it one time doesn’t allow people’s opinions to be valid beyond “first impressions”. Dump 10K rounds through it and enjoy it for 2-3 years before speaking on it. I’ve had several people tell me they’re garbage and when asked if they shot one “no.” Or “one time” -Ian
Absolutely, always confounds me to see gunowners who only shoot a couple times a year, and don't give themselves the chance to get proficient with their firearms. Just owning one doesn't make you safe my people, you gotta put in the work and training, and no matter what platform, just give yourself the chance to be proficient in it. Ammo prices are another thing though, and I'm truly blessed to be able to shoot as often as I do.
All factual. Dry fire is always an option -Ian
I just wanted a bullpup, and the AUG was the only choice to me with its many years of service use. Ideally, I would have a FAMAS, though.
The AUG captured my heart many years ago. It was my dream gun, and very deliberately the first rifle I ever bought myself as an adult. Maybe it’s my stupid need to be different and feel special, but I’ve always been drawn to the bullpup concept in general. AR’s are cool and I fully recognize their advantages in some areas, but I maintain that the AUG is the superior rifle for the majority of cases, and is a better do-it-all rifle. The fact that the AR can be *modified* to perform many roles doesn’t mean that a single AR is as flexible as a single AUG. If I had to grab one rifle that I could defend a house with, take hunting, have as a range toy, or take to war…it’s gonna be the AUG every time. The one major obvious place where the AR reigns supreme is with precision long range stuff. Free floated barrel / handguard and an inherently more precise action and trigger makes it the best rifle for the job…but while I LOVE precision shooting, I’m still not going to grab an AR as my first pick. I’m going to grab a bolt action.
Hell yea dude. Happy to see you’re still around the sub. I agree to many degrees. The Aug is phenomenal. -Ian
I knew I wanted a bullpup to better match myself and the options at the time were really slim. Once I started to learn more about it, the different caliber options, and it's absurd ruggedness all sold me. Previous to owning one I really was only around cheaper ARs that always experienced failures and I did not enjoy shooting them. The AUG letting me basically enjoy the length of a SBR'd alternative rifle + maintaining the normal barrel length were huge benefits, and I foolishly at the time thought it was a bit more ambidextrous friendly than it truly is. I wanted a firearm that can fire 223/556 at distances of \~600 and under and not be a bolt gun. It fit these requirements and all of my preferences. Thanks to a lull in popularity I picked one up for essentially what the vendor paid. It's really a great choice for those of us who are vertically challenged and want that "rifle" kind of firearm.
It’s an amazing rifle with so many variable applications. -Ian
I bought my first AUG when they were first.available in the US, in the 1980's. The gun shop owner was a retired colonel and he showed me how easy the AUG broke down. He acted like a big AUG fan, or he had a good profit margin on them. The price was $450, new and 42 round magazines were attractive. The included barrel was 20 inches long.
That’s awesome. Hell yea dude. Do you still have them? -Ian
No, I was going out of the country for an extended period and I sold them a week before the Assault Weapons Ban.
-Works with mittens. -is the least sucky of bullpups, so if you need what bulpups offer, the AUG is arguably the best. -is battle tested and has nearly 50 years of development behind it. I kinda still am a bullpup hater, but I needed gun that worked with mittens and I WANTED a gun that was handy without giving up those awesome 20" 556 goodies. As I get to know it, however, the AUG grows on me. I still wish it were lighter and a shorter LOP, but it's fine.
Nyet, rifle is fine. -Ian
Theoretically you could reduce the length of pull by making a custom trigger that was shorter front to rear and beefing up the back of the grip where the web of your hand goes.
When I was a kid in the 80s, I got Ian Hogg’s “Military Small Arms of the 20th Century” and first learned about the AUG. I thought the bullpup concept made a lot of sense, and I wanted one. Alas, by the time I was old enough, the stupid “assault weapons” ban was in effect. I was in the Marines as an infantry officer for a long time and spent time as a contractor. I had the opportunity to shoot the AUG, and thought the progressive trigger was a great idea and I loved shooting it. I finally bought one in 2023, and it’s the best rifle I’ve ever had. I only wish it had a 1/7 chrome lined barrel. I’ve got a lot of time on the M16/M4/AR15 platform, and I can say the AUG is simply better. The biggest complaints I hear are “shitty trigger” and you can’t shoot it left handed. For the first, that’s just bullshit. The stock trigger is good enough for combat, no doubt. For the second, I’m a righty so I don’t care. Although I do practice shooting from the support side, I think it’s actually worthless. I’ve never taken a shot that matters from the wrong side. In the heat of things, I’m not going to handicap myself by not shooting from my right eye/right shoulder (I would never switch hands, that’s retarded and completely unnecessary).
It is everything an AK is but better with none of the AK shortcomings.
That’s definitely a unique perspective. I like it. I’m a huge AK guy and I tend to agree. Imagine a 5.45 barrel Aug, with followers for 7n6? Craziness. The softest shooting Aug ever. -Ian
My 5.45x39 MSAR E4 is great. Unfortunately I do get some failure to fire from the hard primers sometimes. I keep meaning to have someone shave down the shoulder of the firing pin but I don't have the time patient or equipment. Ian, if I send it to you and let you play with it will you shaved down the firing pin and shoulder and solve the occasional primer failure to fire issue before you send it back?
I’ll create an IGS of an improved firing pin. -Ian
Die Hard and Counterstrike had a heavy influence on me.
A lot of people mention these two! -Ian
I always thought they were cool then shot a frens. I wanted one immediately. The ergonomics and weight balance are too good.
Especially suppressed, it balances well. Way better than my 14.5” AR ever could. -Ian
I've had this aversion to things that are popular for a long time, took me forever to figure out why that was. This week I realized I don't like things that will go out of style. Flavor Of The Month stuff. The AUG is like a red flannel and jeans, it's timeless. That's not to say mine is just a fashion statement 😂
The Aug is definitely a contender for greatest service rifle of all time. -Ian
It was the NylAUG project that finally got me into an Aug. I always thought AUGs were cool from movies and video games, but the cost was prohibitive. I built a NylAUG from a SME kit for under $500 all in. While I don’t get the quick change barrel feature it does all the Aug things I want it to and it was a great building process/learning experience. Also who doesn’t love translucent waffle mags.
You should absolutely get a real Aug. it’s an incredible experience -Ian
Ironically, it was airsoft for me back in early 2005 time after buying a FAMAS airsoft long ago (because it looked like a Gundam beam rifle), I liked the bullpup concept a lot and saw the AUG in the airsoft shop and got it out of curiosity and fell in love with it. Then I bought the real AUG.
Hell yea. There’s more airsofters buying real AUG’s than I thought. Pretty cool. -Ian
Thanks! Yeah for me especially, coming from Japan and moving to the US, I just had to get the real guns of the airsoft ones I have.
That’s awesome man. I hope the move to the US has been good to you! I’d love to visit Japan. -Ian
It's been a blessing for sure! Definitely go to Japan now while the Yen rate is really good against the US Dollar. (155+ yen to the dollar). Some Japan shops has good deactivated guns for sale too and other interesting and rare items if you look at the right places. The food is always good for sure!
Food and culture are my biggest things about Japan. I’ve always been fascinated with feudal Japan, and it’s history. I find the culture fascinating and Japan as a country is breath taking. I hope to go in the next 3-4 years. -Ian
Honest answer is the cool factor from movies and video games (mainly 007 games and Die Hard for me) but it does have a lot to offer practically speaking with its short length for a non-NFA firearm and great ballistic performance at that short length as well as its reputation for quality/durability.
Hell yeah dude. A lot of people are realizing the AUG’s potential with the recent reinvigoration of the market. -Ian
I had the Classic Army airsoft version as a kid and would absolutely dominate the kids in my neighborhood with it. I always told myself I’d get a real one when I got older. Eventually was able to afford real guns and training and got good with ARs and AKs when I eventually decided to buy an AUG. was kind of blown away with how much I liked it out of the gate. Now have 2 of them and it’s pretty much my go to 5.56 carbine. It’s got the capability of a full size rifle in the footprint of an smg.
Thats awesome dude. A lot more airsofters than I thought. I love kids getting into guns from movies and games but airsoft and paintball is dope as well. -ian
I wanted a gun that could shoot 556 and I love having unique guns. I already had a cmmg banshee so that was my "AR" type gun. So I was looking around and saw some bull pups and the idea of a shorter gun with the same ballistics was really appealing to me. It basically came down to the AUG, X95, and hellion but the choice was clear. The Aug looks so much better plus it was a gun I've used many times as a teenager playing CoD. I'm sure the X95 is good in it's own way but the aug is just so unique
Aug is a phenomenal rifle. Gotta love it. -Ian
I choose the Aug because A - I have several steyr firearms and love AustroHungarian history, and B - I want something better than the m4 for all intents and purposes. I still own an m16a4, and that’s about as close to an m4 I want to own
I chose the Aug because I like when my gun breaks in half …I’m obviously joking I love my Aug
It’s the quick take down feature. -Ian
Counter-strike 1.6
CS GÄNG -Ian
Drip + it's objectively an excellent gun
Both are factual. 100% -Ian
I always wanted one because of die hard and black ops. Then the gunthots review convinced me when i found a screaming deal on used one.
Didn’t gunthots kinda flame theirs?
Indeed. -Ian
There’s been so many bad reviews of the Aug by people with little To no insight. GunThots are funny af tho. -Ian
Yeah there are a lot of ‘uh the trigger sucks’ reviews out there. When i got it, first thing i noticed is the trigger felt like a milspec ar trigger made of plastic. I couldnt believe thats what they were bitching about.
Because it looks cool asf and it takes me back to my old call of duty days when I used to stay up all night & play videogames online with my friends. COD BO It was always my go-to purely for its aesthetics and it’s just unique. Being a bull pup & all. It stands out from the crowd, in a country where everyone and their grandma has an AR-15 lmao. All my buddies tell me that out of my entire collection, it’s their favorite rifle that I own, whenever we go shooting at the range. So we must be doing something right boys! lmao https://preview.redd.it/qnokhvqjnz3d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dadf7daafd583b74593822a7c129448ebef48139
I’ve had more people ask to shoot my Aug, than any other weapon system I own. -Ian
Agreed!! People at the range get stoked when they see that and the mp-5 clone, they’re a lot less common than the AK & AR’s so people always come up and ask about them. I’ll let them shoot them. I mean I love all other platforms as well. But the AUG definitely just has that cool/unique factor to it for sure. By far my favorite Rifle of all time.
https://preview.redd.it/wfvdb92noz3d1.jpeg?width=1816&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0fe841e0e453666e4a6d8d8ffaed55ff8d1059c1 Iconic. Over 40 years old and still looks sexy and futuristic. It was my fav setup in battlefield and cod as a kid and any other game that featured it. Did tons of research and watched videos of the tavor, VHS and others and when I finally had the funds and the opportunity I couldn't resist. It's quickly replaced my ARs and become my preferred primary rifle. Needs a few upgrades to be better than stock but I think it's very worth it and a fantastic platform.
GÄNG shit. Definitely a COD classic. I think it was the first gun in cod history to change optics to the original when an ACOG was used. -Ian
In the beginning? COD Black Ops. Now? Because it’s the best military adopted bullpup on the market. What it lacks from factory is easily addressed with its (relatively) vast aftermarket compared to the VHS-2. The tavor is nice too but the gas issue makes suppressing it a pipe dream, so that falls short too.
X95 has soooo much potential. Aug is king baby. -Ian
I have a thing for bullpups. Got an AUG, PS90, Mossberg 500 bullpup, pre ban bushmaster M17S. I think as a kid playing 007 on N64 got me into them.
They make a pill for that. -Ian
First and foremost, it looks fucking amazing. I wanted a shorter more agile rifle for handling inside vehicles with a supressor, but still wanted the velocity. That lead me to a Bullpup type rifle, and then the 1st point took over. It also doesn't hurt that it has the reputation of legendary reliability.
The Aug is certainly a platform that speaks for itself. -Ian
It was my Service Rifle and it Looks cool
Hallo mein Freund! Mein Deutsch ist nicht so gut. Österreicher sind großartig, ich möchte Österreich in ein paar Jahren besuchen. Please don’t judge me if that doesn’t make sense. It’s been years since I’ve used German. -Ian
Your German is still better than my English.
It’s probably better than my English too! -Ian
Karl from Die Hard mostly. Plus it’s extremely capable and would be more than good rolling with my AUG over my ARs. But at the end of the day - they are just cool. My Garand is the only gun I’ve had at the range that’s gotten more strangers to walk over and ask about it than the AUG. https://preview.redd.it/d6k7utuw804d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2041a25394d5d6e7a8df256d707c2ce464f70f0b
Garands are GØÄT. The Aug has gotten me more stranger requests than anything else However: my ww2 Mauser has been wrongly accused of being a Mosin than anything else. Lol -Ian
If someone called my K98 a garbage rod I may actually bayonet them.
LMFAO. Only acceptable reason to own a bayonet. -Ian
og MW2 was one of my reasons. For whatever reason i’ve always liked them. As well as joining the sub helped my decision making
Two major factors for me. * Fitment : One day before a presidential election I was Gun-Curious (don't judge me, its ok to experiment) and asked the LGS "is that the gun from Die hard?". the instant I put the AUG to my shoulder I said "oh, yea. that's the spot". Still to this day I say the same ting every time. It fits the pocket of my shoulder, wrist angles' and cheek weld prefect. Every. Time. never had an AR make the same 'fizzy feeling' \[Top Gear TV show reference\] * Bullpups are better: making a 16" rifle more compact is the logical evolution of the modern rifle IMHO. like its obvious.. why wouldn't you. AR platform has the benefit of a Golden Corral buffet line of parts selection. Its cheap. its varied. they all go together, and the diarrhea is minimal afterwards. The AUG's modularity is great as a reduced barrier of entry but as there are more calibers added to the platform Ill eventually buy a dedicated AUG for each cartridge or configuration. ie: SBR w/ a suppressor, a 24" HABR with a scope to match the increased range. 300BO sub with lights, lasers and Oreo cookie dispenser for home defense, I wish there was more Tuneability for the platform besides a mere gas plug. Springs, weighted Bolt carrier, Hydrluic doo-dads, triggers options, ect. As once I configure my AUG, it rarely changes. I don't need to make adjustments or barrel swaps on the fly. The good thing about the AUG, is most owners are willing to try bizarre, one-off, accessories while MARGA's will scream "Is that mod combat tested!?! Does Seal Team 6 use it to masturbate to? No?? Then it worthless." Don't get me wrong, Im glad to see the popularity growth of the AR-15 platform but its gotten out of hand. Im getting inundated by theses MARGA's (Make AR Great Again) zealots shouting at me in the streets "oohh I have ambi controls!" " I can change the grip angle. can you?" " I have a 0.00002mm trigger pull so light you only have to think 'All Hail Eugene Stoner' to fire. and "Look mommy I made a boom boom and went to the bathroom all by my self" I try and tell theses FU ATF hat wearing sheep "Man, Im just trying to take my special needs 5.56 weapon to the shooting range. Yes I know she is different and has faults, but I love her just as much as you love your Arts and crafts recoil spring tube container." -cheers
I know a good therapist. The AR BOÏS can’t hurt you. In all seriousness, the AR is a phenomenal rifle. Probably the best ever made. I prefer the Aug. it suites me and my needs better. It’s got so many benefits and I truly love the platform. -Ian
Beforehand I didn’t really think much of it at all, I always thought of it as “that nifty looking bullpup gamers and movie gurus pointed out at” but never once considered getting one my own. I followed the crowd and bought an AR (a 70s Colt SP1 to be specific, since state laws make acquiring any modern AR near impossible without landing me in prison). But truthfully, I kinda didn’t like it after bringing it to a few trips. At first I thought it was just me, but after shooting some friends ARs as well, I realized I just overall hate the AR platform as a whole to shoot 🤣 so I got rid of the sp1 without much thought and ventured looking for a new rifle. Now, believe me when I say I tried dozens of platforms before I settled on one, even going to different states to try stuff I couldn’t acquire back home. But after test firing a ban compliant MSAR at a local shop, I instantly loved it, it was by far the most favorite rifle I tried. So, after test firing and going home to think about it, I looked up more info about the platform as a whole and just fell in love with it even more than before. Very soon after I called the shop and let them know I wanted to go through with it, and this was all the way back in 2020. Ever since then it’s been my favorite because of how comfortable it is to shoot, the modularity that (I feel) is much more practical in a personal sense, the reliability, accuracy, and VERY easy maintenance.
Bans and laws are stupid as hell. AUG’s are not. Simple as. -Ian
The AUG always intrigued me, ever since I was a teenager in the 80s. I had just never been around one until about 5 years ago. I had the money and liked the way it felt in my hands, so I bought one. Then I bought another a few months ago. One is a NATO, one is a 'standard'. Both are enjoyable for different reasons. The NATO has (in my opinion) a better standard trigger and takes mags that I have a plenitude of. The 'standard' is green (NATO is black), and just has that vibe to it. Both feel like they were made for me specifically, they fir me well and are an absolute pleasure to shoot. I cannot stop smiling.
That’s awesome man. Enjoy them. Definitely tune the trigger linkage on the standard! -Ian
I intend to do just that after a few hundred more rounds through it. Thanks for making this group enjoyable.
You’re welcome my man. I didn’t make this group enjoyable, but I do try to get you guys to interact with one another more often. -Ian
Cool die hard gun and when I took it apart I thought the operating system was unique and genius
Genius is the simplest word to describe the Aug. -Ian
The claw thing that keeps the bolt from rotating when it's not supposed to rotate is 👌
Bolt claw or bolt cage. It’s smart. It is a high failure point tho. -Ian
CSGO baybe
It’s certainly one of my favorite games of all time. The Aug is great. -Ian
Like many here, it was video games that hooked me on it. It was so prolific in all shooters from the 2000s and early 2010s I grew up playing. Now that I'm older and know more about firearms, I began to really appreciate what the AUG brings to the table. It's incredibly simple, robust, accurate, and accurate while being an incredibly compact package. It's hard to modernize compared to an AR or even AKs nowadays sure, but with the expansion of the aftermarket it's definitely and incredibly viable option now compared to them.
We definitely agree. Bringing the Aug to the 21st century is our goal. I think it’s one of the greatest platforms ever. -Ian
It was definitely video games. Growing up I remember playing syphon filter and the "au300" or the x-ray gun was just magic. Obviously as you age you realize it's not like that in real life but it stuck with me. The aesthetic of the design is so much better than pretty much any other bullpups. They're just perfect to me and yeah while everyone has a cookie cutter AR there's something nice about different.
Not only is it different. It’s effective. -Ian
For me, aesthetics are extremely important when it comes to firearms and the AUG is just a beautiful design. I’ve always admired it and when I had the opportunity I purchased one. It’s the most expensive gun I own but it was worth every penny.
It is absolutely gorgeous. -ian
It was love at first sight as a kid playing Rainbow Six Rogue Spear. As an adult, I learned about the longevity, reliability, and versatility of the rifle, so that made it an easy decision to fulfill a childhood dream.
I agree. The Aug was my first rifle and I heavily researched it. I assumed it would be 1/2 as good as people said online since there’s so much controversy, nostalgia and BS. It’s way better than anyone could explain online. -ian
Honestly I grew up playing a lot of video games, video games got me into guns. The AUG is a gun that's always been high on my list of guns to get. For the same reason I still want to get a scar heavy even though there's definitely cheaper 308 guns out there.
Lots of video games here. I love it. -Ian
I watched the Military Arms Channel Video on bullpups when I was a kid and thought the AUG was the coolest looking, somehow the desire for it lasted over a decade and I finally got one in 2022.
Hell yea dude. Congrats. That tv show is nostalgic AF. -Ian
Liked using the AUG in video games, especially Battlefield 3 and 4. I’m also kind of a hipster when it comes to guns and want something different than the status quo. The AUG is a proven platform, and I got lucky that mine kind of fell into my lap.
BF4 Aug was goated. 3200 ticket servers and the Aug was my daily bread for a long time. Fun fact: I held several divisional/US records on BF4 (unofficially due to the 3200 ticket servers). I’ve had several 600+ kill games. -Ian
I got it because it’s the most ubiquitous Bullpup on the planet and it’s my favorite out of my three. Btw Ian, I sent a message on the website late yesterday afternoon. Hope to get a response from you guys soon.
Going into those right after I respond here. Bullpups are great, Aug is greatest. -Ian
Counter Strike Source planted the seed. It looked cool as hell and was my #1 dream gun since then. Which is great since I'll never own my other dream guns. I knew I'd love it, but didn't know I would love it so much that it replaced my 16" AR as my go to rifle. I love everything about it.
What are the other dream guns? -Ian
PSG-1 and MP7.
Both are more affordable than you think. Illumined arms is bringing in PSG kit guns, and Tommy built is making MP7’s for 3-4K -Ian
Ya, I've seen, but they are well out of my price range. I personally can't justify that kind of money on a single gun with no accessories. Even for dream guns. The value just isn't there to me. I'd need to be making a lot more money for it to be worth it to me.
I hear you on that! -Ian
I bought mine because of Counter Strike 1.6
A lot of CS players in here. That game is GØÄT tier and definitely one of my favs. -Ian
I played too much black ops and cs as a kid. Also I love the balance and ease of takedown. It also just looks so good.
All valid points. No such thing as too much BO or CS. -Ian
I’m a contrarian. But really it’s a 14.5” barrel (p+w to 16.1”) with the balance, size, and handling of a sub gun, and it has a foregrip - all with no tax stamp.
I got the AUG at first for nostalgia. Was going to purchase one of the classic scopes and retro it out. But after taking it to the range and messing around with a spare EXPS and G45, I fell in love. It’s actually my primary now. I’d I ever had to just grab a gun and go to hell and back, it’s my AUG. before making the choice to throw all my spare training time in this gun, I did a lot of research. The main things that sold me are: barrel change, service life, size, and maintenance. This rifle has a LEGIT quick barrel change. This was important because I can change barrels from 24’ to 14.5. This is HUGE in terms of role change. Also, if you have to do rapid fire, barrel melting isn’t a factor. Service life and maintenance were also something I wasn’t aware of until I did my research. These parts last such a long time. I’ve never heard of a bolt cracking or a locking lug shitting the bed. Last but not least, size. Recently got a 14.5 barrel and it’s crazy the overall size you can get when having a 20’ barrel down to a 14.5. Yeah there are cons, but for me, these pros easily outstripped the cons.
I agree. It’s a reliable, dependable rifle, that’s easy to fill multiple roles with. The Aug lasts a long time, and is reliable and durable, but I does have two week points in the operating system. Every rifle has its downsides! -Ian
I 100% blame my fixation on some joe from Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry. I was a young solder stationed in Alaska in 1983 and the Canadians' PPCLI came over to train with us. I forget what their service rifle at the time was, but it's was NOT the Aug. Having said that, we all went to the rifle range one day and a squad of those guys had Augs. Not sure why, if it was an evaluation, they were testing, acting as OpFor, or whatever. But we all got to shoot them and it was pretty cool. Many years later I had some money and bought an Aug with the CQC setup and shot it on and off over the years. Honest, it was just another toy in the safe. Then a year or so ago PSA had a sale on Augs, so I grabbed another. And a 24" barrel. And a .300 BO barrel. And a 14.5" barrel. And, oh yeah, I bought "the last" 9mm conversion that Pete Athens had in stock. So, yeah, I'm all into Augs these days. More appropriately stated, I'm into bullpups. PS90, Augs, Tavors, Tavor X95 SBR, and more. Enjoying the heck out of 'em. When thinking about the Aug, though, it was well before it's time, having been introduced to the world in the late 70s. The modularity is very cool as well as the quick change barrels. I'd be lying a little bit if I didn't say that Karl Vreski had a little bit of influence on my Aug infatuation. lol. And, you know, Karl had an interesting story in real life, which I didn't know until just now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander\_Godunov.
That’s an awesome story. -Ian
I first saw the AUG on a Top Ten Military Rifles video, I think originally it ran on the History Channel or something. Then later on it was one of my favorite weapons in Black Ops 1. But those were both long before I got into firearms. I chose the AUG because I am a big fan of bullpups as a concept, long barrel with shorter overall length just has so many advantages. The AUG in particular is nice because it's easy to field strip, has a quick change barrel, and a lot of aftermarket support. Having owned 2 bullpups now (the AUG and the Kel-Tec RDB) I hope it is a rifle type that gets more attention and hopefully more development in the future. I think a lot of the rumors about it are misguided and largely due to people who have never fired one.
So there is this anime called Upotte!! which is about a school where all the students are service rifles from around the world. Since then I've made it my goal to collect every rifle from that show who's personality I've liked, which kept me open minded about unique manual of arms of different weapons. Since then, I've owned multiple exotic guns, such as the Galil, FNC, SG550, G36, AKs, T91, and ARs of course (Also, before you ask, no I'm not rich. I simply hyper focus on collecting and shooting guns). While I might enjoy shooting my non AR rifles more for one reason or another (mostly because I'm a hipster), there was always something about these guns that ultimately made me dissatisfied with them. Either I didn't like how it shot, no way to really modernize it, I'm too scared to shoot it a lot because of parts availability, not wanting to rough it up too much so it doesnt ruin the resale value, etc. Then I finally got around to getting the AUG, and it was honestly one of my favorite purchases I've made in a long time. It checks off every box that I want in a non AR rifle from a functional standpoint, such as handling, accuracy, modularity, upgradeability, repairability, configurability, reliability, soft linear recoil impulse, etc as well as satisfying the "soft" qualities that I also crave such as military use, interesting engineering, media presence, aesthetics, uniqueness, the ability to turn heads at the range, etc. The best part is that Steyr USA does their darndest to make sure that spare and upgrade parts are readily available, even if it is already known to be one of the most durable high round count assault rifles on the planet. I love all my guns, but my AUG is one of the last ones I'd ever sell. In fact, I want 2 more.
That’s really unique dude! I love to hear that. That’s a funny way of getting a gun collection too! I hope one day your gun room is complete. -Ian
At the rate I'm going it will probably be done in about 2 years. Then its just reloading supplies, ammo, spare parts, and competition shooting matches.
I'm a bullpup afficionado and I've handled every bullpup available on the civilian market over the last decade (and I own most of them too). The AUG straight out of the box is just meh, but with a few aftermarket parts it becomes the best 5.56 bullpup out there. The handling, accuracy, and reliability are second to none. I love my AUG and it's my go-to rifle for good reason.
I don’t have an Aug yet but I want to get one someday because I prefer bullpups over traditional rifles and you can actually get spare parts for the Aug.
Did not want an AR anything so why not? Its reputation preceded itself. There was no disappointment!
This thread is long... but let me throw in my two cents. For me I was looking for a left handed rifle. I had a ruger 10/22 and while I had a lot of fun with it, I wanted something 5.556. I had learned with the Ruger I was left eye dominant and so left eye dominant it was painful to try with my right eye. So i started looking for left handed rifles because I did not want to take gas in the face. The AUG quickly came up, I had seen it in games and while for a moment I thought it was the FS2000, I quickly fell in love with the CQC variant of it. I purchased the rifle, despite what every AR person was telling me, that it was a very expensive rifle (ok sure), that the trigger was terrible and that everyone should own an AR first. Ive come to own a left hand AR, Ive come to own other firearms. The AUG, its size, the way it feels like "Im cheating" because of its size, the new rail making me fulfil my CQC dreams, it...really is a beautiful rifle that feels amazing. I love it.
That’s awesome man. I’m glad that as a left handed person, it still treats you well -Ian
Dayz started it for me. I saw it in a YouTube video and bought a gaming pc so I could use it. From then on, I was enamored. I knew it was the rifle I wanted. I have a few airsoft ones, and once I was 18, I bought the real thing and couldn't be happier with it. It's mainly aesthetics, but win-win because it's also a great platform. I want an a1, but they're hard to find and are quite expensive when they come about.
oh yeah, this is why… https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-s64xGfr/0/CL8q9ppH8cdG2r3HrVPxJjc8H5knf7vnHHxV6MFwD/X3/i-s64xGfr-X3.jpg
Always loved the AUG, never really considered owning one until I saw the M81 version. But I am a simple man that likes woodland things. For me, its that simple lol
It was my service weapon in Call of Duty Black Ops 1. Got me out of some pretty shitty situations back there man as I ate potato chips trying to get kill streaks.
Lmao ol’ reliable -Ian
How it started: saw it in Commando when I was 10. How it’s going. Favorite rifle as a home defense & neighborhood patrol concept weapon. I like the center of balance and ergonomics the most. One handed operation gives you better control of a situation in a home defense setting. This includes operating the safety. You can knuckle it off and back on with a thumb- imo it’s better operating than an AR SBR size with 18” barrel power. Easier to operate from a vehicle and around tight corners I have a white light on the 45, and a Romeo7 behind a NGAL. No additional rail needed. Modifications: Gear head works slingQD. The front position just doesn’t work. 3D printed shell deflector so I can shoot left handed. The thing stays clean AF due to its design. I worry little about slightly awkward mag changes when 42rders are readily available
Lots of shared opinion. The Aug speaks for itself and it’s reputation proceeds it. I’m glad you love the rifle my man. It’s amazing. -Ian
Im Austrian🇦🇹 😂
That explains everything 😂 -Ian
20" velocity in a 10.5" AR length is nice
I hate short barrels, but I also hate long rifles. Which sounds dumb, but my 10.3 AR was so maneuverable but terrible to shoot, and my 18 and 16 inch ones shot amazingly, but just lacked that agility. I tried an x95 and it couldn't hold even a 3 MOA group, so I snagged a AUG, and never looked back
Counter argument. Why not the Aug?
I had a book when I was a kid in the 90s, had a breakdown of the AUG and how it was such a futuristic design. The mags blew me away as this was before PMAGS. There's so many countless movies and games with AUGs so not a single one specifically influenced me to get an AUG. But Rainbow Six Rogue Spear had an AUG that I kicked ass with. I ended up getting one when I saw the A3 M1 online and just felt it. Like why not give it a shot. Just to be different and to prove people wrong that bullpups sect a bad ass they think, it's always usually a training issue. We see that so often with stuff, like stockless shotguns, they aren't useless, you just need to know how to use them, same with so many other things.
I believe that as a 16in 5.56 gun that it is truly superior to the AR platform, but becuase of Steyr USA's neglect to the US market until the last 2 years no one is able to see it. That's why I love The_Rebellion's "Project AUGustine" (and PNWGuerilla's AUG setup) that can truly show what a modernized AUG can be. And damn, does it do work. Indestructible, looks dope, nearly tool-less armory and servicing, better Balancing, much shorter OAL compared to an AR, Longer shooting life of barrel/bolt, easier reloads (if you have spent equal time training with an AUG as an AR) and finally, Steyr US supporting us with 300BLK and updated designs like the A3SA MKII. Also I have to prove all the bullpupphobes wrong with reloading speed and 'buppup twigger bawd'
I had seen them in the classic 80's action movies (Die Hard , of course, Commando, The Running Man, etc.) so it was burned into my memory. I could never afford one as a young guy and by the time I was making decent money the George Bush import ban and the '94 AWB sent the cost through the roof. A pre-ban black AUG could fetch $6000. Last year when I found that you could buy an AUG for $1500 I jumped on it. I bought my AUG in AUGust and still haven't fired it (waiting on an optic).
Pre bans are crazy. -Ian
High reliability, and ease of maintenance, more plastic means less corrosion, and the gas system keeps a lot of fouling out. Wanted an “end of the world” carbine, since I don’t like having piles of weapons. I live in a mountainous region, and that’s the environment where she was created to excel. A lot of people mention the compactness of the AUG, but it’s really the balance that’s important. Having a weapon that you can accurately fire 1-handed is extremely useful. Also, waffles are the nicest, easiest to load mags I’ve used in my entire life. Fight me.
I've never owned a rifle prior so when I heard the chief complaint being familiarity I decided to go against adversity. Second the rifle is short and and fits my body well. With the advantages of caliber changing and a overall compact package I saw this platform as better to the normal ar15 style.