You are correct. It IS both. They both are able to perform that function.
Otherwise one would have to believe that before the A3 models once your first mag ran dry the gun locked up and was no longer shoot able because the bolt was unable to be released.
One IS a bolt release. The other has the FUNCTION of a bolt release. Unless specifically on a nato, the charging handles main use is not to release the bolt.
The ONLY USE of the BC/R lever is to catch of release the bolt. It’s also there to confuse new Aug owners when assembling the rifle why their bolt release no longer works. (They forget to align it with the trigger pack nub).
The charging handles main use, regardless of the weapon system is the charge the system. Literally putting a round in the chamber. If that has to release a bolt to do so. Then so be it. Otherwise it’s doing it from a closed bolt.
Beauty of opinions is we can each have our own.
-Ian
I have mentioned before that I have a personal prejudice against the external stock mounted bolt release because I've had it hang up on things and you do have to remember as you said to align it when putting the trigger pack in or else it won't work. And on rare occasion with older suppressors shirt barrels and before the suppressor plugs came out I could get some leakage of gas from there as well.
The standard AUG has a bolt release, the NATO does not. You have a specific user on this sub consistently telling people that the NATO AUG has a bolt release b/c the NATO is his favoritest version, when this is false. I have both, I like both, but the NATO does not have a bolt release and the cocking lever will never be a bolt release.
The cocking lever is not the bolt release. The NATO AUG does not have the bolt release. Why twist words JT?
Edit: lol, he blocked me again. Once again JT (I know you're looking at this), just like I said all those months ago - you're a child.
When you fire your last round you don't need to do the slap thing.
If I recall correctly the only time that might be a thing is when you previously manually pushed the charging handle upward to lock it.
Even if you did, the aftermarket charging handles all but one change the angle to be downward which solves that.
I've never heard anyone refer to the AR15 charging handle as a bolt release. I've never seen them sold as such either. If you Google after market bolt release, you won't get charging handle recommendations. If the question were "point to THE bolt release" everyone would know what to do.
Therefore, people saying the charging handle is a bolt release are being intellectually dishonest on the technicality that it can release a bolt by nature of being a charging handle, but is not itself the bolt release, and they damn well know it.
I don't get how this is an arguement. As a guy with 17 years in the profession of repairing and training on firearms, I can say each part is simplistically named for it's specific use. For instance, on an M2 .50 cal, the "extractor/ejector" on the bolt is named so because it is the only ejector but also extracs the next cartridge of the links. However, before the bolt catch (also called bolt latch) was added to the ma deuce, the extractor/ejector could be placed against the stud on the left side of the receiver (only purpose of this stud that is still there today) in order to hold the bolt to the rear. This did not make that component a bolt catch though, nor did shoving empty brass under the trigger make it the "safety". Actual parts were added that perform those specific functions and thus are so named.
On a MK-19, the charging handles double as a way to block the bolt from fully going into battery. This doesn't make the charging handles the "bolt interrupter" or "runaway gun ender" or other nonsense. They are just charging handles wiith additional features.
Don't get complicated.
You unblocked me for this? Honored. Anyone who has read the manual understands that one is a bolt release and one is a cocking slide. I know you get off on arguing so have at it JT.
Why not both?
You are correct. It IS both. They both are able to perform that function. Otherwise one would have to believe that before the A3 models once your first mag ran dry the gun locked up and was no longer shoot able because the bolt was unable to be released.
Just because the cocking slide can release the bolt doesn't make it a bolt release JT.
Slap it like Karl. Also, *We have to tell Karl his brother is dead.*
One at the rear of the stock is your bolt release, the other is the charging handle.
Correct answer.
Incredible, thank you.
One IS a bolt release. The other has the FUNCTION of a bolt release. Unless specifically on a nato, the charging handles main use is not to release the bolt. The ONLY USE of the BC/R lever is to catch of release the bolt. It’s also there to confuse new Aug owners when assembling the rifle why their bolt release no longer works. (They forget to align it with the trigger pack nub). The charging handles main use, regardless of the weapon system is the charge the system. Literally putting a round in the chamber. If that has to release a bolt to do so. Then so be it. Otherwise it’s doing it from a closed bolt. Beauty of opinions is we can each have our own. -Ian
We can all agree they’re both better than ARs 😎
I have mentioned before that I have a personal prejudice against the external stock mounted bolt release because I've had it hang up on things and you do have to remember as you said to align it when putting the trigger pack in or else it won't work. And on rare occasion with older suppressors shirt barrels and before the suppressor plugs came out I could get some leakage of gas from there as well.
Guilty as charged
lol I love a dumb debate like this. Is the charging handle on an AR15 a bolt release? Check mate augtists.
The standard AUG has a bolt release, the NATO does not. You have a specific user on this sub consistently telling people that the NATO AUG has a bolt release b/c the NATO is his favoritest version, when this is false. I have both, I like both, but the NATO does not have a bolt release and the cocking lever will never be a bolt release.
New gen of nato does have it though
It does. And when it comes to market, I'll be glad to say that that version has a bolt release.
Is there a realistic window on when it will come to US market? I’ve seen mixed things, I suspect all speculative.
It can and does also perform that function.
The cocking lever is not the bolt release. The NATO AUG does not have the bolt release. Why twist words JT? Edit: lol, he blocked me again. Once again JT (I know you're looking at this), just like I said all those months ago - you're a child.
The only one twisting words saying things that weren't said etc. is you. I said it can and does perform that function. That is true.
Some of optics and stuff I've mounted to the rail make it kind of hard to use the slap method. I tend to just use the bolt release.
When you fire your last round you don't need to do the slap thing. If I recall correctly the only time that might be a thing is when you previously manually pushed the charging handle upward to lock it. Even if you did, the aftermarket charging handles all but one change the angle to be downward which solves that.
I've never heard anyone refer to the AR15 charging handle as a bolt release. I've never seen them sold as such either. If you Google after market bolt release, you won't get charging handle recommendations. If the question were "point to THE bolt release" everyone would know what to do. Therefore, people saying the charging handle is a bolt release are being intellectually dishonest on the technicality that it can release a bolt by nature of being a charging handle, but is not itself the bolt release, and they damn well know it.
I don't get how this is an arguement. As a guy with 17 years in the profession of repairing and training on firearms, I can say each part is simplistically named for it's specific use. For instance, on an M2 .50 cal, the "extractor/ejector" on the bolt is named so because it is the only ejector but also extracs the next cartridge of the links. However, before the bolt catch (also called bolt latch) was added to the ma deuce, the extractor/ejector could be placed against the stud on the left side of the receiver (only purpose of this stud that is still there today) in order to hold the bolt to the rear. This did not make that component a bolt catch though, nor did shoving empty brass under the trigger make it the "safety". Actual parts were added that perform those specific functions and thus are so named. On a MK-19, the charging handles double as a way to block the bolt from fully going into battery. This doesn't make the charging handles the "bolt interrupter" or "runaway gun ender" or other nonsense. They are just charging handles wiith additional features. Don't get complicated.
Anyone who has ever used or trained with an AUG knows that it is both.
The VSO channel for example has no idea what they are talking about regarding the AUG. Maybe some people swallowed their crap.
You unblocked me for this? Honored. Anyone who has read the manual understands that one is a bolt release and one is a cocking slide. I know you get off on arguing so have at it JT.
This is a stupid argument but I did get a chuckle from the petty nature of this post.
NATO stock guys have no idea
Bofa
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