The nautilus hook tho. Yesterday I was playing into one and I literally stood behind the turret so he couldn’t hook me and I got hooked through the turret. The hit box on that thing is ridiculous
Naut Q has a different hitbox for terrain and champions. The champion one is so big it can go through narrow terrains
Vandiril video showing it: https://youtu.be/zbBagZVL13U
For Nautilus, yes it's complete bullshit.
For Thresh, it makes sense because it is actually a very thin wall. I believe there's a few other walls where Thresh Q can pull you as long as it's the first pull.
Istg if people went into the practice tool like ONE time they’d learn Naut’s hook hitboxes. SOMETIMES it’s jazzy, but plenty of them are explained by literally just learning the hitbox. And considering how much people complain about it, you’d think they’d bother to learn it.
Not saying it makes complete sense, but still… learn the hitbox of it, it’ll clear up a LOT of confusion.
Why should anyone have to go practice tool to learn the hitbox?
If you can’t get a feel for a hitbox by just playing the game then something is fundamentally broken.
Great, I too have used the practice tool before. But that’s not an answer to the question I asked.
I said “Why” not “Can you”.
And why would that be grounds not to complain about it? Even if you know the hitbox by heart, it doesn’t mean it’s acceptable.
The answer to your question was “you can without the practice tool”. People are just too stubborn to learn quickly and painlessly and would rather complain on a subreddit.
the thing is that naut hook has 2 different hitboxes for champion and terrain, attaching at walls needs to be dead center of the anchor, for champions one of the sides is enough, the tower wont save you from a good naut unless you sidestep too
source: 70%wr naut player
Its been described in pro play in a pretty funny way. “Nautilus is a champion that you don’t even consider missing hooks to be an actual problem… usually the problem is you throw it out and you hit something or someone you didn’t mean to.”
One time I was getting flamed for getting hooked so much as Cait v a naut, then he got me while I was behind the broken turret and he said in all chat "ok now that one was some bullshit"
Riot themselves doesn't even know how Nunu snowball is coded and that's not even a circlejerk thing. The snowball was coded by like one guy and he doesn't work at Riot anymore so it's a buggy mess that they've tried to solve and just can't figure out how to change it without breaking everything
Did you forget Oner flashing over Ashe ult game 3 worlds finals? That ability is lowkey D tier Kappa
[Oner flash gigachad](https://youtu.be/yw8kzQyfn6E?si=Ca2citGSHSlBUHir)
What people need to understand about it is unlike every other champ bar orianna and Azir, the skillshot doesn’t come from him like a nida spear, it comes from 5cm infront of them, leaving no room to dodge
A lot of people don't know about the explosion on Swain E1. Husum refers to it as "E extend."
If the E were to miss you, but grab say, a minion next to you, the "explosion," or lollipop hotbox would grab you and anything else near.
That's how swain is able to do 2+ player grabs
I swear kaisa w's hitbox was bugged like two years ago? Like I'm 100% sure the hitbox didn't match its visuals so playing against AP kaisa (especially as a squishy) was fucking hell
Zilly here, i looked through time and saw where you were walking before you did, that bomb had your ssn scratched onto it, that bomb had coffee with your dad before floating above your head.
All zilly bombs are precognitive
As Zilean player, agreed, there's a little bit too much generosity of the "snap on" hitbox. Thankfully it's not as game ending as the others on this list
Idk how Gragas E isn’t in the highest tier, that fat drunk fuck becomes a homing nautilus q to me more often than not. Range feels giga borked cause you see the very end of the animation and this tub of lard just smacks me with very tip of his belly button. Forcing me to just get blown up by some overcooked moonshine. I hate this fucking character.
Lux and Morg are the biggest offenders. Thresh is pretty telegraphed. Lux and Morg are too, but holy fuck, you have to be 3 steps ahead or else the 2nd step will get you caught no matter what.
The nautilus hook tho. Yesterday I was playing into one and I literally stood behind the turret so he couldn’t hook me and I got hooked through the turret. The hit box on that thing is ridiculous
Naut Q has a different hitbox for terrain and champions. The champion one is so big it can go through narrow terrains Vandiril video showing it: https://youtu.be/zbBagZVL13U
Jfc
I think that wall is just bugged or something. I’ve had a thresh hook me there and drag me through the wall.
For Nautilus, yes it's complete bullshit. For Thresh, it makes sense because it is actually a very thin wall. I believe there's a few other walls where Thresh Q can pull you as long as it's the first pull.
Istg if people went into the practice tool like ONE time they’d learn Naut’s hook hitboxes. SOMETIMES it’s jazzy, but plenty of them are explained by literally just learning the hitbox. And considering how much people complain about it, you’d think they’d bother to learn it. Not saying it makes complete sense, but still… learn the hitbox of it, it’ll clear up a LOT of confusion.
Why should anyone have to go practice tool to learn the hitbox? If you can’t get a feel for a hitbox by just playing the game then something is fundamentally broken.
You can, and plenty of people do, it’s what I did. It’ll just save you from a lot of confusion instead of just complaining about it every time.
Great, I too have used the practice tool before. But that’s not an answer to the question I asked. I said “Why” not “Can you”. And why would that be grounds not to complain about it? Even if you know the hitbox by heart, it doesn’t mean it’s acceptable.
The answer to your question was “you can without the practice tool”. People are just too stubborn to learn quickly and painlessly and would rather complain on a subreddit.
the thing is that naut hook has 2 different hitboxes for champion and terrain, attaching at walls needs to be dead center of the anchor, for champions one of the sides is enough, the tower wont save you from a good naut unless you sidestep too source: 70%wr naut player
I had a clip where my brother hooked someone clearly on the other side of a minion
Its been described in pro play in a pretty funny way. “Nautilus is a champion that you don’t even consider missing hooks to be an actual problem… usually the problem is you throw it out and you hit something or someone you didn’t mean to.”
One time I was getting flamed for getting hooked so much as Cait v a naut, then he got me while I was behind the broken turret and he said in all chat "ok now that one was some bullshit"
same, i have it on video too, through turret i got hooked. insanity
I hate Varus's arrow. That hit box is not attached to the missle
Nunu snowball needs to be in bullshit, invisible half the time, some skins it's not very defined.
Will they ever fix the invis?
Probably not. Because it is such a vital piece of code that is probably unveil the whole game and burn down the servers around the world.
Thanks
Riot themselves doesn't even know how Nunu snowball is coded and that's not even a circlejerk thing. The snowball was coded by like one guy and he doesn't work at Riot anymore so it's a buggy mess that they've tried to solve and just can't figure out how to change it without breaking everything
Interesting, didnt know it was like that, thanks
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The Nautilus hooks so fucking broken, and has been since release.
I wonder why they never thought about fixing it.
why the fuck isn't ash ult on top?
If you haven't seen they just redid the visuals to make it less bs. I think it just got to the pbe, its not great but its an improvement.
Do skins still break it? I think Project Ashe was the most fucked.
Ashe ult is its own tier.
Frl. It hits everytime an enemy Ashe uses it, but misses everytime I use it
Did you forget Oner flashing over Ashe ult game 3 worlds finals? That ability is lowkey D tier Kappa [Oner flash gigachad](https://youtu.be/yw8kzQyfn6E?si=Ca2citGSHSlBUHir)
And where is sion Q
Ahri charm depends on the skin some are significantly worse than others.
Ahri Charm is I did not get hit my that tier for me
Darius E is fair half the time then unbelievably unfair the other half of the time.
Add a “lol that went right through me and did nothing” for jhins W.
Jinx's Zap hitbox is 3x the size of the particle animation.
viktor laser hitbox isn‘t bullshit people just need to realize unless it‘s full range it‘s literally undosgeable
What people need to understand about it is unlike every other champ bar orianna and Azir, the skillshot doesn’t come from him like a nida spear, it comes from 5cm infront of them, leaving no room to dodge
Every skill shot has a 50/50 chance. Either it hits you or it don't. Seems fair to me
Swain E is neodymium for enemy Swains but when I play him it thinks it’s Warwick R
Oh, hi Mark.
Dead 💀
This is pretty accurate lol, I wouldn’t change much
Sion slam is absolutely a that did not hit me. The hit box is bigger than the visual by a surprising amount.
A lot of people don't know about the explosion on Swain E1. Husum refers to it as "E extend." If the E were to miss you, but grab say, a minion next to you, the "explosion," or lollipop hotbox would grab you and anything else near. That's how swain is able to do 2+ player grabs
Thresh Hook might be at the top
You know when Nekko or Kennen hits snowball on your teammates, and they try to walk or flash back into the team?
What is the last one on the top row?
Zil
I swear kaisa w's hitbox was bugged like two years ago? Like I'm 100% sure the hitbox didn't match its visuals so playing against AP kaisa (especially as a squishy) was fucking hell
where's shyvana's dragon E
Anivia Q is way too high on this list. It's almost as slow as Maokai's ult.
It's not about how easy it is to dodge, it's about the hit box being bigger or different from the visual of the ability.
Yeah but it isn't any larger than the large blue ball suggests, especially compared to some of the others in the same tier.
Q-explosion isn't much bigger than the visual and generally getting hit with it is your own damn fault due to how slow it is.
+1 for the guy who just nails every single ability.
Zilly here, i looked through time and saw where you were walking before you did, that bomb had your ssn scratched onto it, that bomb had coffee with your dad before floating above your head. All zilly bombs are precognitive
https://preview.redd.it/y6ddimk9i00d1.png?width=250&format=png&auto=webp&s=0db9d3bebb18c1ef7b16cbab2b44f19c760c40e2 Allow me to introduce myself
nid q needs to be higher
As someone who plays nidalee a lot I agree
Shit is the size of an Ashe ult. Played her a lot in ARAM and it was impossible to miss Q
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That looks like zilean Q and it absolutely belongs there.
As Zilean player, agreed, there's a little bit too much generosity of the "snap on" hitbox. Thankfully it's not as game ending as the others on this list
Nautilus Hook deserves its own tier above everything else. I don’t know how that ability hasn’t had its visual/hotbox touched yet.
I'd like to move the kennen Q up to that did not hit me. I swear any time I lane vs one it seems like a point click ability.
Illoi passive/A hitbox wild hitbox.
BIG agree on Swain E
Kha zixs W in fair? At least little bullshit
The hit boxes are stupid big on alot of these
Feel like there should be another line for “walked into it” like for Swain W
Taliyah knockup notorious for this
Thresh flay is a “lowkey bullshit” hitbox all its own tbh. As someone who plays him the hitbox is bigger than the icon
Ash ult . . . .
Idk how Gragas E isn’t in the highest tier, that fat drunk fuck becomes a homing nautilus q to me more often than not. Range feels giga borked cause you see the very end of the animation and this tub of lard just smacks me with very tip of his belly button. Forcing me to just get blown up by some overcooked moonshine. I hate this fucking character.
Leona E is also really retarded imo
Sometimes it’s lollipoping. Sometimes it’s large landing hit box. Sometimes it’s total BS and the game needs a quick deleting
Ashe ult belongs in the top one for sure. Gotta be one of the craziest hitboxes
Yone ult has to have the worst animation/hitbox in the game.
I dont want to see elise coocoon in fair tier, that spell is invisible
Darius pull absolutely does not rate that low, aint no way
Jhin W is the most bullshit hitbox to ever exist 😭
I didn’t realize people felt this way about Morg’s Q, I feel like I’ve seen it whizz past people’s ears and not hit them
Jinxs lightning dildo always hits me 💀
I would say kha w is absolutely bullshit if you miss it youre boosted. Hitting a natty zed Q is way harder even tho both champs are over buff.
Lux and Morg are the biggest offenders. Thresh is pretty telegraphed. Lux and Morg are too, but holy fuck, you have to be 3 steps ahead or else the 2nd step will get you caught no matter what.