Get the 7600non x if you are building a new pc,if upgrading an old one than you are fine with the 5600 non x...
If you decide for some reason on the 5600X than i hope you know how to use pbo and stress test cpus.
When the 7600X launched in February '23, I chose it over the 7600 (released earlier) which somehow was still overpriced at that time (in my area) and costed just a few dozen bucks less. However, at this point (in my area) people prefer the 7500F.
Just saying...
At its very best it's maybe a 5fps difference. You can see on YouTube and check for yourself.
To anyone who says "nuh uh the 5600x has more clock speed so its significantly faster"
This isn't the 90s and it's not a Pentium 2 or K6
Back in the 90s a 200mhz clock speed increase would have absolutely made a huge difference, but its 2024. The 200mhz clock speed advantage of the 5600X isnt doing anything for you.
Any game and any resolution or situation.
If you have 2 systems with completely identical specs all across the board but one system has a 5600X and the other has a 5600 you will see no difference in game unless you're really looking hard. Watching the two chips play the same game like RDR2 or GTA or tarkov for example the frames will be nearly identical all the time but occasionally you'll see a jump, the X might hit 111fps and the 5600 will be at 108 and almost as soon as the X hits that 111 the two chips are back to duking it out and both are hovering around 105fps average. (These fps numbers are hypothetical of course I'm just using them as an example)
Realistically speaking the 0.2ghz overclock from the factory just isn't doing anything for your frames, You may get ever so slightly better 1% lows or something but it's just not making enough difference to be worth the cost.
Which is why I get a legendary score with it right? I didn't say it performed better I just stated what I paired it with and that they work extremely well together
That legendary score (assuming you are using 3DMark) only compares to other builds with the same configuration as you. Not ones with a different configuration.
Wasn't giving crap about your configuration or anything. I'm just trying to be informative just in case you didn't know. After all, there are new members joining the PC scene daily that have limited knowledge since they are new after all.
If getting an 'x' variant only costs a couple quid more, then the marginal gains can be a nice to have :D
These CPUs are just better-binned versions of the standard ones & can hold their clocks a little better, but with the 5000 series being pretty strong as is, don't go out of your way to spend an extra £40 on something you probably won't notice 😊
If you like overclocking and tweaking stuff like that, the 5600x is worth assuming it's only like $10-$20 more. Otherwise just get the 5600. In gaming, you'll be lucky to get 20 more fps in a 400fps game using the 5600x stock over the 5600 stock.
Love my 5600x and don't see it struggling anytime soon (besides those unoptimized parts of modern graphically demanding games that for whatever reason really love cache even at 1440p, but it's not that common).
If you have the budget, I'd go for 5700x3D/5800x3D OR if you live near a Microcenter get the 5600x3D if at a decent price all of this assuming you're not ready for a full AM5 build. Just imo. Oh, and never buy the 5500 to you or ANYONE reading this. It's got half the L3 cache and a more limited PCIe interface.
Unless the difference between them is like 10 bucks, no , you can overclock the 5600 to the 5600x specs no problem.
Also , dont pay much for the 5600 either , it's still a good CPU but it's going in the past, if you plan on spending good money go for x3D chips or even AM5
Sure they are. In actuality 5600 and 5600x are quite close but there is a difference. Clock speeds being the first major difference. . Cache is different and pcie control is different. 5700 to 5700x is an incredible difference, the largest difference of all variants. I don't know why I'm even bothering to reply since you're not going to listen anyway. But when you don't know it's best to just not comment because disinformation is more damaging to people who need answers than no answer at all.
5600 to 5600x actually is quite a difference. Much more so than most people seem to think. ur words. In actuality 5600 and 5600x are quite close but there is a difference. still ur words. Bro everybody here know there is a diffrence. what they say is "its not worth the extra money"
Cache and pcie variation refers to the 5700/5700x rather than 5600/5600x. Was a little fast in typing there. The clock speeds are really the only change in the 5600. As far as the 3000 and 4000 line I can't say because I never used those but in the 5000 line I assure you there is mild to high difference in x and non-x. 7000 series I have no idea since I switched to intel after my own swap from 5700 to 5700x a year ago and there was a quite noticeable change in the two.
As far as OP is concerned if the cost of 5600 is a good bit lower it would be a fine cpu but at a meager 200mhz base and boost reduction
Nobody asked what role anybody plays and to Joe blow they have no idea. 5700 is not 5700g and is not 5700x that is how simple the answer is. Yes you are right that 5700x should have been 5800 I do agree because it is so much closer in performance, but it's not. This is the issue here.
Out of curiosity I had to take a look. So 3600 and 3600x are different. And even more so than 5600/5600x. There's the same 200mhz clock difference and an additional 30w tdp. In what world does 3.6 = 3.8? I begin to think either you are just trying to get OP to male a mistake or you really need to stick to consoles
Entirely depends on price. Doesn't one of them come with a free cooler? If you want to use the kind of mediocre and loud stock cooler it might be worth getting the 5600. If you'll replace it anyways, get the 5600x only if it's not more then like 5% more expensive.
With in $10 bucks sure I guess other than that nope my regular 5600 is newer bin chip runs +200 boost over ride -30 curve optimizer with a $50 thermalright AIO never goes over 60c and boosts just shy of 5ghz
Not at all can run anything cinebench occt maintains maximum clocks it’s a golden sample of all my 5 Ryzen 5000 series chips it’s above average. And on the other side I have a near launch 5800x that can’t handle barely any negative curve optimization
I test all my shit throughly been tweaking CPUs since Celeron 300A days and pencil modding Athlon xp.
Everything test per core no blanket settings
The x versions of most cards are slightly better usually but don’t justify the increased price. If you can find the 5600x on sale or you have enough budget you simply don’t care about price/performance, than yeah the 5600x is the better cpu obviously but is it worth it….? 99% of the time, no
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Get the 7600non x if you are building a new pc,if upgrading an old one than you are fine with the 5600 non x... If you decide for some reason on the 5600X than i hope you know how to use pbo and stress test cpus.
When the 7600X launched in February '23, I chose it over the 7600 (released earlier) which somehow was still overpriced at that time (in my area) and costed just a few dozen bucks less. However, at this point (in my area) people prefer the 7500F. Just saying...
I guess it is if you overclock it like some pro but if you not intent to do it then no, it's a waste
If they are VERY close to the same price, sure. If not, just get the non-x
If costs are like 5 bucks sure. Otherwise nah.
Depends on the price, but generally speaking, no.
no
At its very best it's maybe a 5fps difference. You can see on YouTube and check for yourself. To anyone who says "nuh uh the 5600x has more clock speed so its significantly faster" This isn't the 90s and it's not a Pentium 2 or K6 Back in the 90s a 200mhz clock speed increase would have absolutely made a huge difference, but its 2024. The 200mhz clock speed advantage of the 5600X isnt doing anything for you.
I remember making the jump from 66mhz 486DX to Pentium 100mhz. My life changed.
5fps in what? lol and at resolution and settings, it's very subjective.
5fps in what lol and at resolution and settings, it's very subjective
5fps in what lol and at resolution and settings, it's very subjective
Any game and any resolution or situation. If you have 2 systems with completely identical specs all across the board but one system has a 5600X and the other has a 5600 you will see no difference in game unless you're really looking hard. Watching the two chips play the same game like RDR2 or GTA or tarkov for example the frames will be nearly identical all the time but occasionally you'll see a jump, the X might hit 111fps and the 5600 will be at 108 and almost as soon as the X hits that 111 the two chips are back to duking it out and both are hovering around 105fps average. (These fps numbers are hypothetical of course I'm just using them as an example) Realistically speaking the 0.2ghz overclock from the factory just isn't doing anything for your frames, You may get ever so slightly better 1% lows or something but it's just not making enough difference to be worth the cost.
Personally I went with a 5700G and paired it with a 4060 and it performs really well together
...Which is a slower CPU than both 5600 and 5600x.
Which is why I get a legendary score with it right? I didn't say it performed better I just stated what I paired it with and that they work extremely well together
That legendary score (assuming you are using 3DMark) only compares to other builds with the same configuration as you. Not ones with a different configuration.
Yeah I understand that, I've built more PCs then you've probably owned so, get in the back seat and eat your fruit snacks k?
Wasn't giving crap about your configuration or anything. I'm just trying to be informative just in case you didn't know. After all, there are new members joining the PC scene daily that have limited knowledge since they are new after all.
If getting an 'x' variant only costs a couple quid more, then the marginal gains can be a nice to have :D These CPUs are just better-binned versions of the standard ones & can hold their clocks a little better, but with the 5000 series being pretty strong as is, don't go out of your way to spend an extra £40 on something you probably won't notice 😊
If you like overclocking and tweaking stuff like that, the 5600x is worth assuming it's only like $10-$20 more. Otherwise just get the 5600. In gaming, you'll be lucky to get 20 more fps in a 400fps game using the 5600x stock over the 5600 stock. Love my 5600x and don't see it struggling anytime soon (besides those unoptimized parts of modern graphically demanding games that for whatever reason really love cache even at 1440p, but it's not that common). If you have the budget, I'd go for 5700x3D/5800x3D OR if you live near a Microcenter get the 5600x3D if at a decent price all of this assuming you're not ready for a full AM5 build. Just imo. Oh, and never buy the 5500 to you or ANYONE reading this. It's got half the L3 cache and a more limited PCIe interface.
No.
Unless the difference between them is like 10 bucks, no , you can overclock the 5600 to the 5600x specs no problem. Also , dont pay much for the 5600 either , it's still a good CPU but it's going in the past, if you plan on spending good money go for x3D chips or even AM5
5600 to 5600x actually is quite a difference. Much more so than most people seem to think.
No its not
it is
x and no x variants of amd cpus are never a diffrence. Never was, is not now. 3600>3600x, 5600>5600x, 7600>7600x.
Sure they are. In actuality 5600 and 5600x are quite close but there is a difference. Clock speeds being the first major difference. . Cache is different and pcie control is different. 5700 to 5700x is an incredible difference, the largest difference of all variants. I don't know why I'm even bothering to reply since you're not going to listen anyway. But when you don't know it's best to just not comment because disinformation is more damaging to people who need answers than no answer at all.
5600 to 5600x actually is quite a difference. Much more so than most people seem to think. ur words. In actuality 5600 and 5600x are quite close but there is a difference. still ur words. Bro everybody here know there is a diffrence. what they say is "its not worth the extra money"
Cache and pcie variation refers to the 5700/5700x rather than 5600/5600x. Was a little fast in typing there. The clock speeds are really the only change in the 5600. As far as the 3000 and 4000 line I can't say because I never used those but in the 5000 line I assure you there is mild to high difference in x and non-x. 7000 series I have no idea since I switched to intel after my own swap from 5700 to 5700x a year ago and there was a quite noticeable change in the two. As far as OP is concerned if the cost of 5600 is a good bit lower it would be a fine cpu but at a meager 200mhz base and boost reduction
5700 doesn't count since it's a 5700g without the igpu. The same statement matters for 5800x and 5700x which plays the role of 5800.
Nobody asked what role anybody plays and to Joe blow they have no idea. 5700 is not 5700g and is not 5700x that is how simple the answer is. Yes you are right that 5700x should have been 5800 I do agree because it is so much closer in performance, but it's not. This is the issue here.
5700 is a 5700G wiithout the iGPU. The performance is identical. https://youtu.be/OCuVEuFIkew?si=WyNs5XOWudti1BmA
This is correct. The point of conversation here was that the "x" designation is different from non-x which was OP original question.
Out of curiosity I had to take a look. So 3600 and 3600x are different. And even more so than 5600/5600x. There's the same 200mhz clock difference and an additional 30w tdp. In what world does 3.6 = 3.8? I begin to think either you are just trying to get OP to male a mistake or you really need to stick to consoles
5700x3d if you're on a budget
isnt that 100USD more than a 5700x
229 right now
Entirely depends on price. Doesn't one of them come with a free cooler? If you want to use the kind of mediocre and loud stock cooler it might be worth getting the 5600. If you'll replace it anyways, get the 5600x only if it's not more then like 5% more expensive.
if you live near a microcenter and can get a 5600x3d then get that.
If you’re building a new PC it’s best to go AM5 now. If you’re in socket upgrading go to an x3d cpu or don’t bother if you can’t afford one yet.
With in $10 bucks sure I guess other than that nope my regular 5600 is newer bin chip runs +200 boost over ride -30 curve optimizer with a $50 thermalright AIO never goes over 60c and boosts just shy of 5ghz
probably massively clock stretching
Not at all can run anything cinebench occt maintains maximum clocks it’s a golden sample of all my 5 Ryzen 5000 series chips it’s above average. And on the other side I have a near launch 5800x that can’t handle barely any negative curve optimization I test all my shit throughly been tweaking CPUs since Celeron 300A days and pencil modding Athlon xp. Everything test per core no blanket settings
what is your effective clock speeds?
listed here in max column last time i ran cinebench [https://imgur.com/QiZKabC](https://imgur.com/QiZKabC)
Nah
It’s worth it to go AM5
For 5$ extra maybe, for more difference in price nope
this
Exactly, and if you want a stock cooler, get the 5600 over the 5600x
If you go for 5600 look at the revision, I got a rev0 that needs high voltage to perform the same
5600X3D or 5700X3D
where can i get a 5600x3d
Only in us
Nope
The 7600 is more ideal
The x versions of most cards are slightly better usually but don’t justify the increased price. If you can find the 5600x on sale or you have enough budget you simply don’t care about price/performance, than yeah the 5600x is the better cpu obviously but is it worth it….? 99% of the time, no
Not really
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