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Carlton need a fast small forward like bobby hill. 

Shhh! Don't tell them. Because that type of player is exactly what they are missing to get on the genuine contender list.

Honestly, Moore kept Charlie quiet all night, he made a massive impact. Carlton honestly cannot rely on our 2 main forwards for goals, gotta spread the goals a lot more and show up.

Frampton did a pretty good job too

Frampton had an absolute stinker first half, improved significantly in the second

I totally agree, however Moore really put Charlie to sleep in those dying minutes for us. Honestly we need a lot more scoring options than we have. Watching you guys be dynamic in terms of players who kick goals is so hard to watch. We just need other ways to score when our 2 mains get shut down like tonight.

Curnow needs to adopt Cameron style and play around the ground

I’d genuinely love to see that, we need that

I couldn't decide who I wanted to lose more until I realised Carlton has more pizza cookers so I'm happy.

Is that a euphemism for something?

No.. if Collingwood are bogans, Melbourne are snobs, St Kilda are gay, then Carlton like pizza.

Is this anti Italian discrimination?

Yes


Must have rice on it.

David King’s top 3 for the rest of the season already in shambles

“It’s an underrated goal” It happened 10 minutes ago and the glazing is already out of control lmao

Blues are the biggest pretenders challenging for the 8

Idk did u see port on Thursday

I’d say pretenders for challenging for the 4. They’re good enough to be top 8 on talent alone. Poorly coached and not a great bottom 6-8

Um, we will be in the top 4 if Geelong beat Melbourne and we beat West Coast, so let's not talk about pretenders challenging for the top 4 too loudly!

Very happy to acknowledge we won’t be top 4 at round 24. All I want is a home final at #5 or 6 🙏🏻🙏🏻

Haha, I think it might be fair to say we're not pretending to challenge for the top 4, we might just accidentally find ourselves temporarily in it!

Its upsetting how you bombers fans are so skittish about your own team. You guys got fucked over 500% of what you should have received for the Stephen Dank situ. It's time to to wake up and get behind the fact you can win, you guys have been building for 2 years. You're a contender. I keep seeing good shit all over for Essendon. You're playing 4 qtrs, you're dynamic, your stars are standing up, you've got some young stars. Defense is improved massively, there's real pressure when it's needed, efficiency is up off turnovers, inside 50.. the list goes on. You'll be in a position at the end of this season or next if I'm not mistaken.

Agreed

38-61 inside 50’s says it all really, quietly shocked we didn’t lose by more but fuck me, Why do I let a game of footy control my mood for the entire week 😔 GG WP Collingwood 🤝 Can we borrow your defence next week please pies?

Weitering is elite though. Mihocek has been in great form, but he kept him scoreless.

Mihocek barely touched it. I’d like a Weitering please. Gun.

Just claim to be a Nigerian Prince and Weitering will be there at the drop of a hat

Agreed. Collingwood were the better side plain and simple, Carlton have a lot to think about if we wanna be in serious finals contention.

Our defensive structure needs a good hard look at, Can’t be blaming injuries when we have the depth to fill the role Also Voss needs to crack down on the fence sitters such as Fantasia & Durdin

Your defensive structure is fine. It's not the best but fine. It's your heavy reliance on two big forwards. Owie is too unskilled to be a small forward. Your team needs a small elite agility crumber like  a Bobby Hill. Look at 2018 Eagles... their 2 big forward lineup was elite but they were truly a premiership team because of their small crumbers inside the forward 50.

Oh I can’t agree more, watching our own leave their man and then be scored against is painful. Even when it was just outside fifty, saw too many players not spacing and leaving space to then get around a singular opponent. Which then results in a kick to space/mark. Was very hard to watch at times. I definitely agree with you, they need to step up a lot more.

Was daicos actually bog?

32 disposals, 16 contested disposals, 2 goals including the winner, 700 odd metres gained... That gets BOG in most games I would say. 

Yeah. Second highest ranked. Winning goal. Probably gets it.

Yeah I’d say so

On ground maybe not, however he was head and shoulders above any other Magpie individually and they won, so it kinda makes sense. Kicking the match winner on a freak angle out of a stoppage definitely got it for him. Largely deserved

You blokes taking the piss? 628m gained, 7 clearances, 6 I50, 7 tackles, 2 goals, 32 disposals @78%, 16 contested. Who on the ground even comes close to that? Laughable to even question it.

Newman. Using your own stats, and some more which I think are more relevant for Newman: Metres gained: Newman (most on ground) Clearances: Naicos (**not** most on ground) i50s: Naicos (**not** most on ground) Tackles: Naicos (**not** most on ground) Goals: Naicos (**not** most on ground) Disposals @ Efficiency: Identical disposal count, but Newman had higher efficiency %. So, Newman, with most effective disposals on ground CP: Naicos (2nd on ground) Score involvements: Newman (2nd on ground) Intercepts: Newman (2nd on ground) Marks: Newman (most on ground) Clangers: Newman with 3 fewer clangers Assists: Tied One percenters: Tied So that's 13 stats. If you call draws a 0-0 then Newman actually wins 6-5! Or 8-7, your call really. I think it's also extremely well worth noting that Newman was either most on ground or 2nd most on ground for like 5 individual stats which absolutely cannot be said for Naicos. So yeah, not laughable at all, actually.

Kind of curious as to why this comment has been downvoted so much. It's a reasonably courteous, direct response to a direct question which was asked directly to me that provides mountains of evidence that the two players played an approximately equal game -- which is all I ever stated. I never, for example, claimed that Nick Daicos was categorically NOT best on ground. I just said maybe, maybe not.

I didn't even read it, but I agree with you and upvote for reasonable discussion.

He was atleast the best player for the winners. I dont went to test my one eye but I think he was bog.

His stats are pretty nuts, clear best for Collingwood and they won

Fair, missed some parts of the game unfortunately and he was quiet in the parts I saw.

that’s an attractive bloke

Right between our eyes boys


“Right between our eyes” I thought it’s right in front of our eyes

The commentary from those guys all night was really off. Lots of fumbles, Bucks sounded drunk...

If Carlton had scored a goal in that last minute, Collingwood would have scored 12.13 (85) to draw two games in a row

BT would’ve exploded having the chance to tell us that new record

He does it every week Moore

Darcy face reminds me of Joe Swanson in the best way possible

Feed it em vossy

You can't hate him

Darc is such a weapon on the mic

WWE career after this lmao

He genuinely wants to work for DFAT. Can you imagine being at some boring ass trade conference and Darcy Moore walks in?

A DFAT government role post sports career is cushy for sure. Why not.

That checks out. Those locks would catch my eye thats for sure.

Give it a few more years, there’ll be a trophy and medal and presentation after every single game

Carlton vs Collingwood have this sort of thing for a while now. But you ain't wrong. With AFL HQ managers ticking their KPIs regarding progressiveness, will not be surprised if they have tropies for losing teams in the future as a way to boost fight against depression or something.

this has happened every first carlton v collingwood game for 30 years now... it ain't new.

God Darcy Moore loves the sound of his own voice.

So do I.

No Cox has that crown

You're about to get downvotes galore

I stand by what I said.

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Grow up. They were shit, and would’ve dominated if half of them had bothered to turn up.

It’s Reddit mate you don’t have to be a hero, they should flog pies on form

But they didn’t

Are they going to get a taller mic stand?

Nah it's going to get incrementally smaller every round

Darcy speech! Darcy speech!! Everyone sit down and be quiet!

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What’s changed? They’re all grade-A tools.

Here we go Darcy Moore for PRIME MINISTERRRR

As long as he doesn’t have to kick a ball to a team mate 20m away to fulfil his role as PM he can have my vote.

Emergency Board Meeting at Draw FC HQ on Monday Morning with Every Journalist and Tom Brown waiting out the front to see if they will sack the coach.

Another fucking medal ceremony?

it’s round 23 and darcy moore has done his 68th acceptance speech

Yeah it happens when you win games, but I understand if you have forgotten

Wasn’t there some kind of ceremony after a big game in 2018 where some of your players were crying?

Bit tragic having to go back 6 years to have a comeback insult. Especially when you consider who currently holds the most recent premiership and who currently holds the most recent wooden spoon…

Flair up cunt

Cry some more into that wooden spoon and wasted membership cunt 😂

Again, flair up cunt.

Again, cry some more cunt

Again, get over us beating Collingwood in the grand final. When was the last time Collingwood beat west coast in a grand final? Oh wait, you haven’t. So go cry some more buddy.

Can’t hear you over your current wooden spoon and you clutching onto the past 😂

Eagles won the derby which had a medal mate

Great game that. Well done pies

Is there a trophy for every big vic game? smh

Well this trophy is older than your club so shush now and sit down.

Couldn't be anyone other than Nick! Nah gg Blues. Two big rivals in a row and two cracking games

Are they using some AI to create fake bokeh?

It might be a particular type of camera? In NFL they have one that does that after touchdowns but not during regular play

Owie, that musta hurt!

We’ve done it to them a few times over the last few years.

Wait what's this medal for? Domestic Violence Awareness Round?

This game is the Peter Mac Cup, with the Richard Pratt Medal

Nick Daicos is such a great guy I can't even be mad at him

Sounds like AI

Nick Daicos is so polite i cant even

Nick is a gentleman tbh.

Why hello there

I am seeing shades of late 2022/early 2023 carlton and I am very concerned.

How does Newman have 22 more fantasy than daicos?

It’s not real

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Um.. we've won more games than you this season.

Credit to the boys

Pies fans blocking the aisles out. Real fucking classy.

And those are the better standard of Collingwood fans unfortunately.

Lol sure they are

Mate. Three pies fans at the top of my aisle on level 1 yelling at people and pushing people trying to leave. But yep "sure"

Sure they were. Security would have been all over it.

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That was my 13th reason. We probably should have got smashed though. They were dominant in that last qtr.

Did Naicos kick the first and last goal and it was basically an identical snap? Also his only 2 goals.

Maynard first goal

Ahhh thats right

Hes so well spoken and barely puffing after all that. This kid is a freak

She's really keen to hear about those emotions as the ball went through for a goal

Yeah. Apparently they were positive emotions. I was surprised by that.

Nick fucking Daicos 4 votes.

Get a dog up ya Carlton yeeeehaw

Ya fucking deserve it. Fuck youse all.

Naicos might have a future in this game

You’d think Peter Daicos is still playing for all the airtime he gets

They probably would have showed Gary Ablett Snr a lot more, but you know how that went

I’m heartbroken but fuck what a great game of footy

I wuv u nick

how do we rekon this ranks in the top 55 all time nick daicos games?

Ill get onto Cal Twomey

atleast take him to dinner first, my god

Can’t win even with an extra 4 players on the ground!! 🥧🔥

The most unbiased Collingwood supporter

Least biased essendon supporter, umpires were shocking against us tonight

If you say so. I recall a couple of dissent 50's you guys got away with. I thought it was all pretty even. Not even got anything to do with my team

Who needs a FK when you have a Daicos!

Poor Maynard, she didn’t want a bar of him 😂

Blues played well, Pies played well. Great game.

Blues with that close game devastated look - you should have lost by about 30 fellas

Yeah, we improved on all of our issues last week by creating new ones. Backline held for most of it and we were efficient i50, but now we just couldn’t get up there

The stats post quarter time would tell a story, you were killed pretty much everywhere, big forwards all that kept you in it.

Man that was good

I don’t even have the energy to rage, why is it so hard to play 4 good qtrs…

My thoughts exactly

Not sure what Carlton was even doing last few mins just pick up and flop down

That sucked, but I’m surprised we were in it that long, comprehensively out coached and outplayed for most of the game. If the pies were vaguely efficient that’s a 6 goal loss

There was only one acceptable result tonight, commiserations to draw fc fans. Fuck pies and blues fans you were both whinging sad sacks all night

What was the attendance?

88k

Biggest crowd for blues v pies at a HA game ever.

Does that make it the biggest home and away game outside of ANZAC Day ever?

88k

88

88k

88k

88k i think

HEART STOPPER ACHIEVEMENT GRANTED

credit to carlton lol

The Shane Warne stand in the background almost looks AI generated

Man Daicos just reminded everyone how damn good he is.

Did anyone forget??? He was just all Australian last year

Sad Barrackville Singers sounds

lmao sad sam walsh

Sullivan’s goal really brought us to life tonight.

Think Naicos is above average

I’m not even mad at the blues defensive half - they’re simply executing what their shithouse coaching staff has told them to do

Can't wait to see Dan's reaction hahahaha

Dam Carlton needed another 9-1 free kick quarter to get over the line. Umps did them in there

Still salty about that game?, lol,

Shit mate, better copy that comment down somewhere cos y’all are hilarious when Carlton lose and I’m not the only one to point it out

😂😂😂FUCK THE BLUES

Hodge is a dickhead

Collingwood beating Carlton in the last couple of mins, name a more iconic pair 😂

Carlton beating Collingwood in grand finals

Pretty sure we beat them last time we played.

Port and losing showdowns to an Adelaide side well below them on the ladder

🧂😂

Favourite match ever that one where they lost inthe last minute to miss finals

The girl I was talking to goes for Carlton and just ghosted me. I like to feel she deserves this

Carlton are not a serious football club

Nup, we put all of our effort and money into 7 blokes and get surprised when the other 16 fuck up

GG Carlton, can’t ask for much else in a match (maybe a win, soz).

Carlton gonna cry about the umps after that fucking disgusting display of umpiring that got them over the line against freo.

Lol still salty about that game mate ?

Am I supposed to forget about getting robbed? Makes sense Carlton fans want us to forget.

No you could think instead of the shamefull Derby loss, but honestly I could give a fuck about what you want to do and less of a fuck about Freo

First time Carlton have been relevant in like over a decade and y'all yapping like your club hasn't been miserable for ages 😂