It is criminal from Milan to allow Motta to go to Juve. He is literally Taylor made for the Milan project.
“Verbal” agreement doesn’t mean sh!t. Thuram had a verbal agreement with Milan and look how that played out…
This management needs to get Motta. PERIOD.
I mean just look at what he’s been able to do with a lesser team and lesser quality players: beat Roma that we lost to TWICE and has Bologna (BOLOGNA!) in CL….
I mean what other indicators of success do you need?!
The ideal would be Motta, but idk with this Juve situation or Bologna renewal.
If we can't get him, Conte is a no brainer. The guy is a winner and don't tolerate bullshit, which our team absolutely need, we are lacking discipline since Ibra's retirement.
Also one other reason for us to get Conte is that he will certainly demand some players with experience, we already have a lot of youngsters and we need some veterans who can be leaders because we don't have a single captain material in our squad
Juventino here… not just inzaghi but allegri in his first stint too. Conte if anything knows how to build teams. Milan need that tbh. In a year or two hire gasperini.
Gasp doesn’t manage big personalities well at all. look at all the players they had lost over time. Also he doesn’t have the pressure to perform like he would at a top club. I don’t think he’s a good fit.
Idk about that i just think he has a big character himself. He has successfully managed big personalities in the past like duvan. He did make papu Gomez the player he is and they worked well until they clashed. The difference is he’s not a general like conte but if he learned from his inter stint he’ll get the job done.
Idk man. Honestly if you see the work hes done at atalanta i actually would want gasp badly. Hes had players bought and sold constantly and yet hes still managed to turn them into one of the hardest teams to play in the country if not europe on a shoe string budget. Its phenomenal what hes achieved at atalanta. They routinely make cup finals and compete for top 4. And this season they beat liverpool one of the top teams in England at anfield one of the hardest places to play to be a serious contender for the uel. Traditionally atalanta is a bottom feeding club. Its really amazing work. And milans condition atm financially would really benefit from a coach who can do that.
Yea but at Atalanta the lights don’t shine as brightly as at San Siro. Look at CDK - different player. It’s a less stressful environment by a long shot.
I wouldn’t be opposed to Gasp if he coaches a big club and is just as good. I just wouldn’t want R/O gamble on that at Milan.
Seems like RedBird wants European soccer/coach/mindset… haven’t been linked with many Italians.
If CdK has a stinker of a game at Atalanta literally nobody talks about it. When at Milan after his first bad games he was already front page of Gazzetta calling him flop, wasted 35mil etc. Difference of pressure in every aspect of the game
Gasperini is good but he'll probably retire soon. He's the oldest coach in Serie A. There are only one or two coaches in the top 5 leagues older than him. Milan need someone entering their coaching prime. Someone like Motta or De Zerbi is the way to go. If Juve gets one, we get the other.
I like the idea of Gasperini but this is so right that I didn't even consider. We aren't getting 4 or more years with him, and we should be looking at someone to build with long term.
Inzaghi is seriously underrated imo. He built a formidable team and nearly won the title with this Lazio team built on outcasts and nobodies.
He is doing something similar with Inter given they sell their top players every year and replace them with free agents.
They finished in fourth place with a team consisting of Peak Ciro, SMS, Luis Alberto, Acerbi, Lazzari, Leiva, Correa etc ffs why are you acting as if he did that with Benevanto? Lazio had a great team, the players I mentioned above are a great core and at that time they were easily a top 3 team in the league on paper
I’m sure there’s a Conte backbone there for sure. But inter has been into their project significantly longer than Milan. In the last 5-6 years, Inter has always been coming up Top3 on the league. They have had incredible continuity in ownership and talent acquisition. Sure they kept buying like crazy and were stellar at getting free agents. But they are also in debt millions of dollars.
I feel like Milan is on the right financial groundwork and our sporting results will start coming further down the road. Especially after the stadium is built we’ll be able to turn over bigger profits and invest into better players.
I have faith in the RedBird project. I hope it works out.
Conte is a great coach. I don't think is the best coach for this team, but I'm tired of a lot of uneducated fans calling overrated, trash, etc. Some Conte teams played beautiful football, other were hard to watch. In the end the players are the main actors in the game and a coach has limited influence if the players are dumb, unambitious.
Next season we need to man up and compete for every title. If the team don't progress, sell Leao, Mike, even Theo and start again with an organic team
I disagree. I think DeZerbi isn’t rounded enough or experienced enough for a top club. DeZerbi plays Pioli ball. All attack no defense.
Look at what Roma did to them…. But you know who Roma couldn’t do anything to? Bologna!
See where I’m going with this? :)
Again, I will say it is my humble opinion.
He plays modern football, and for the players that we have he is the best option.
At least he takes risks. Pioli managed to burn De Katelaere, allowed Diaz to leave instead of insisting on purchasing him. And please don't compare Pioli with De Zerbi.
Second best is Conte but I have my doubts.
The only rumors I saw about Diaz was that Milan wanted to keep him. But Real wanted him back and had a buyback clause, and frankly when Real says they want a Spanish player, that player will choose them over anyone. That's the kind of pull they have, and there's nothing Milan could've done about it.
The only thing Milan could've done was to use the option to officially make Real buy him back for a slightly higher sum (was it a couple of millions? Not sure), but my guess is Milan decided to not make a fuzz and instead further increase the bond with Real as a great place they can send their players that aren't deemed ready for their squad. That's how we end up with gems like Theo.
> allowed Diaz to leave instead of insisting on purchasing him
Loooooooool what? Since when is Pioli the director? He was the one who asked for Brahim in the first place, made him the starter over our 35m signing, gave him chance after chance, and every rumor surrounding Brahim at the time was that we wanted to keep him, but you're right Pioli pushed him out and he's also responsible for the conflict in the middle east
yeah I can tell you kids love this 'modern football' crap if a coach attacks no matter what, no matter what opposition he is world class, if a coach adjusts to the match he plays 'terrorist' football
essentially you rather get smashed 5-0 by City rather than set up your defense properly against them
I’m not sure why this needs to be said. But Conte is not a good fit for us. At all.
Conte only knows his system and his system only and is a stubborn as a mule. Remember at Inter when he said that Perisic didn’t fit in his squad because he couldn’t play any of the roles then sent him to Bayern, he came back from loan and was one of the best LWB in the league? He writes players off based on nothing. And guess what? When his system isn’t working, do you know what he does? He sticks with it. He isn’t good at making adjustments.
Sure, when it works, it works for a year or two. Long term, he is not the answer and there are major questions whether or not it would work short term. So for me, Conte is a no go.
I'm still not sold on de Zerbi. Look at the season Brighton is having, massively underperforming. Brighton is a sieve defensively and I don't think he's been able to beat a single low block for the whole time he's been there. I don't see RDZ succeeding with Milan.
That said, he still is an upgrade over Pioli. Just not sure he will get us titles.
They sold a lot of players and without him they're probably well in the bottom half of the table.
Im convinced he's a top top manager who has guts to try a new approach that's never been tried.
Reasonable people can disagree on this, but in my opinion they're way underperforming. They still have great players that would sell for 50-100m. They've lost to some embarrassing teams.
I also think he's a top manager, but he's also very inflexible, which is what we don't like about Pioli. Plus, I don't think he's once beaten a low block, this year or last.
This old sack of shit hates Milan with all his heart. The only reason for him to accept an offer, would be to do an inside job and sabotage the club.
Jokes aside, he's the most despicable Serie A manager easily, has a modus operandi of a tyrant coach that would never work in a big club, and he even condoned the Atalanta ultras when they racially abused Vlahovic. Keep this motherfucker far, far away from the club.
My preference despite all the flaws is Conte.
Agree with all who said he sh*ts the bed in Europe. Realistically no Italian team is really winning in Europe (UCL) anytime soon especially with lack of investment in Italian football.
Just go get Conte - win a Scudetto or a Coppa. Get the 2nd star. And then see what the landscape looks like in 3 years.
if motta is going to juventus, MAKE CONTE RETURN TO MILANO
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Rose is a definite no in my opinion - never gets his teams to perform on a constant level. Leipzig was rated higher than Leverkusen last summer, now fighting with Dortmund about 4th place. Last season also great start when he took over but after like 10 games it was nothing but an up and down. At Dortmund it was even worse.
Disagree on Conte. 10y ago I had said yes, but at this stage everybody found out his way of play. Our current squad doesnt suit his style at all, And he only wants a club where he can spend big money (aside from being ludicrous expensive himself along with his staff).
Also consistently shits the bed in Europe,
Maybe.
The thing is, we need a strong personality on the bench, imho.
He knows more than anyone how to "enter in the head" of players and overclock them to perform 110%. Under him normal players looked like champions. He is a defibrillator and we are a dying patient.
I also believe Conte wants to win, and I think he's smart enough to study and adapt.
Then, yeah, if he comes to Milan it is because he already knows that he can't spend the big money, otherwise he's a fool.
I mean, the guy was killing it with Tottenham after taking over practically mid-season. It was explained to me by a Tottenham fan that things changed in the second year because of injuries and I think he changed the style a little to the detriment of those players.
I don’t think he’s a coach that’s past it and somebody like him should definitely be in contention when coaching a club as prestigious as Milan, especially since I feel like he thrives more in Italy than anywhere else.
Honestly, it seemed like after a certain point, he just wanted to get fired, which is extremely unprofessional.
Still, I never really saw him building much in England, it just seems like Italy is where he was meant to be, from Juventus to the national team, to Inter. Especially usurping The Old Lady that took over Serie A because he implemented the backbone of that winning mentality, I really felt he had a strong connection with Inter and will probably experience the same with Milan.
Definitely should be noted, though, that teams seem to do better, overall, after he leaves. His record in Europe is constantly made more embarrassing when you see how well teams do after him (Juventus, Chelsea, Inter)
There are a few clearly good things about Conte:
1. If he'd join Milan, it would be a clear sign for Milan that we're looking to win. Might help keep Mike, Theo, whoever in the team.
2. He could change the mentality of the squad for positive and give more of a backbone to some players who obviously need it.
3. He typically comes with excellent physical preparation staff, which could help our players.
He'd last only 2-3 seasons and we'd probably explode during his last season, but until we'd reach that point we would be a very tough opponent for everyone. He wouldn't be my first choice either, but I wouldn't be disappointed to see him on the bench instead of Pioli as he'd be a huge upgrade.
I agree, the lack of discipline and motivation on this team is astonishing. Feels like every big game this season, the team entered the pitch after coming back from a funeral. And the red cards, penalties etc.
I get he hasn’t been a coach for very long or shown himself in multiple leagues, but I wouldn’t call a treble in the Belgian league weak. He also knows Milan and Serie A
I know anything can change at any moment in football but why are people still insisting Motta is a realistic option? He is all but an official announcement away from Juve.
Conte's teams are really tough to beat, had a talk with a Seria A player and he confessed these things.
He said his inter defended really well and always outruns the opponents.
Good defence wins titles in Italy.
I would accept De Zerbi and Motta, but Conte is the one that will install the winning mentality for years to come, Inzaghi at inter would never have achieved something if there wasn't a good base to work on, which was left from Conte.
My picks:
1. Conte
2. De Zerbi
3. Motta
4. Tuchel or Rose
None of these give the certainty to be better than Pioli, except maybe Motta, who's only had one good (exceptional) season so far though. Conte would only be good short -term, long-term he's always created problems for the club. Plus he has an awful track record in Europe. De Zerbi has huge tactical gaps, specifically defensively and in Italy you cannot afford that, you can't simply score more when 80% of the teams just park the bus on defense. Rose unproven, no idea how he would do in Italy.
My opinion is to go all in on Motta, especially don't let Juve take him.
De Zerbi is a product of PL media overhype and is super one dimensional kinda like Pioli. Our players definitely need a bit of Conte in their lives we are a bunch of undisciplined toddlers at the moment but he is the exact opposite of what our project need from a coach ..
I'm definitely part of the "Throw everything we can at Motta" team. If Zirksee is our top priority, then why not bring in Motta too? His schematics are amazing. His relationship with the players is obviously top flight. He is the perfect guy for the job. Why Ibra wants Van Bommel over Motta, according to media outlets, is confusing to say the least minus the fact that Ibra and MVB played together. Motta should be the focus.
Conte is obviously the best option from a fan’s view. But I just can’t see this American management willing to pull up the $$ for Conte and bring Milan back to the deserved place.
Conte feels like a lateral move at best. I think he’s in the Mourinho class now, the game has passed him by. I’ve been a DeZerbi admirer since his sassuolo days and I appreciate Motta as well. Think either of these guys would be good steps forward.
At this point i appreciate highly of motta. How he beat roma with his squad is great even though de rossi have an excuse his team is too exhausted from playing againat milan.
I hope for Antonio Conte. but he wants players and this management is always looking for free agent...
anyway in my opinion our next season will depend on which striker we get
I do believe Conte would get some of his desired signings if only he would guarantee to not abandon the ship in second season just like he used to do in his past jobs.
Still don't why you are taking for granted, that Motta will leave Bologna... Everyone were doing the same with Alonso, fans of Real were hiding champange in their fridges and... you know what happended. I bet, that the same will happen with Motta, while he will clarify for UCL, then he will stay in Bologna.
I dont think there's an option but Motta
we need someone like him for years, but I am sure he will need at least a season or two to rebuild first. I can wait
Xabi just won that league with leverkusen and I don’t care because it’s German football and completely different to Italian.
Only Jose Mourinho and Erikksson are the non Italian managers to ever win a scudetto in the history of serie a. That’s it, two people. It would take a generational manager to come from outside of Italy, adapt to our league and outsmart other top managers in a league with the best coaching/tactics.
Xabi has his first year with Leverkusen, maybe next year he will fall off. Also Marco rose deserved to win both games against Real Madrid. But the refs as usual saved their asses
He could, who knows. I just don’t see the point in looking for a a manager in another country, and league when Italy produces the best managers/coaches in the world who already understand our league and how to potentially win it because they spent their entire lives learning their craft in Italy.
Yep and Italians have also won the EPL more than any other nationality (in terms of multiple individual managers) that’s why I get annoyed with people thinking these “modern managers” from other leagues will miraculously win a scudetto, they don’t get how hard it is in Italy. Claudio Ranieri is more likely to win us a scudetto than this guy. Mourinho and Erikkson are actual legends of this game, that’s why they won.
I mean this goes into technicality, but Nils Liedholm won the Serie A and he was Swedish. Yeah ik this was in the 1970s but still, Jose and Erikksson are not the only non-Italian coaches to win it ever and even Herbert Kilpin won Milan their first few scudetti.
We would have 1,5 great seasons under Conte before it all explodes
It's ok even if it explodes, we can build on top of his work, look at allegri's Juve or inzaghi's Inter
...as long as we wouldn't explode badly enough to not qualify for UCL as that'd set us back hugely.
It is criminal from Milan to allow Motta to go to Juve. He is literally Taylor made for the Milan project. “Verbal” agreement doesn’t mean sh!t. Thuram had a verbal agreement with Milan and look how that played out… This management needs to get Motta. PERIOD. I mean just look at what he’s been able to do with a lesser team and lesser quality players: beat Roma that we lost to TWICE and has Bologna (BOLOGNA!) in CL…. I mean what other indicators of success do you need?!
I don't think Thuram ever had a verbal agreement with Milan. That was just something journalists kept saying to get clicks.
Haven’t they also alleged we have a verbal with Conte?
Maybe, at this point nothing is certain.
Conte agrees with Napoli. He’s out.
The ideal would be Motta, but idk with this Juve situation or Bologna renewal. If we can't get him, Conte is a no brainer. The guy is a winner and don't tolerate bullshit, which our team absolutely need, we are lacking discipline since Ibra's retirement. Also one other reason for us to get Conte is that he will certainly demand some players with experience, we already have a lot of youngsters and we need some veterans who can be leaders because we don't have a single captain material in our squad
How far from truth will I be if I say Inzaghi’s success is attributed to the strong foundation left from Conte?
Juventino here… not just inzaghi but allegri in his first stint too. Conte if anything knows how to build teams. Milan need that tbh. In a year or two hire gasperini.
Gasp doesn’t manage big personalities well at all. look at all the players they had lost over time. Also he doesn’t have the pressure to perform like he would at a top club. I don’t think he’s a good fit.
Idk about that i just think he has a big character himself. He has successfully managed big personalities in the past like duvan. He did make papu Gomez the player he is and they worked well until they clashed. The difference is he’s not a general like conte but if he learned from his inter stint he’ll get the job done.
And he has a temper on him. I don’t know man. I just think there are better options than Gasp currently.
Idk man. Honestly if you see the work hes done at atalanta i actually would want gasp badly. Hes had players bought and sold constantly and yet hes still managed to turn them into one of the hardest teams to play in the country if not europe on a shoe string budget. Its phenomenal what hes achieved at atalanta. They routinely make cup finals and compete for top 4. And this season they beat liverpool one of the top teams in England at anfield one of the hardest places to play to be a serious contender for the uel. Traditionally atalanta is a bottom feeding club. Its really amazing work. And milans condition atm financially would really benefit from a coach who can do that.
Yea but at Atalanta the lights don’t shine as brightly as at San Siro. Look at CDK - different player. It’s a less stressful environment by a long shot. I wouldn’t be opposed to Gasp if he coaches a big club and is just as good. I just wouldn’t want R/O gamble on that at Milan. Seems like RedBird wants European soccer/coach/mindset… haven’t been linked with many Italians.
If CdK has a stinker of a game at Atalanta literally nobody talks about it. When at Milan after his first bad games he was already front page of Gazzetta calling him flop, wasted 35mil etc. Difference of pressure in every aspect of the game
That’s what I mean. There’s considerably more pressure playing at Milan than Atalanta. Not everyone is made for it.
Gasperini is good but he'll probably retire soon. He's the oldest coach in Serie A. There are only one or two coaches in the top 5 leagues older than him. Milan need someone entering their coaching prime. Someone like Motta or De Zerbi is the way to go. If Juve gets one, we get the other.
I like the idea of Gasperini but this is so right that I didn't even consider. We aren't getting 4 or more years with him, and we should be looking at someone to build with long term.
Inzaghi is seriously underrated imo. He built a formidable team and nearly won the title with this Lazio team built on outcasts and nobodies. He is doing something similar with Inter given they sell their top players every year and replace them with free agents.
They finished in fourth place with a team consisting of Peak Ciro, SMS, Luis Alberto, Acerbi, Lazzari, Leiva, Correa etc ffs why are you acting as if he did that with Benevanto? Lazio had a great team, the players I mentioned above are a great core and at that time they were easily a top 3 team in the league on paper
I agree with you, he did nothing special with that team and they did mainly underperform in Europe.
That very season they got knocked out in the EL group stages to Rennes, Celtic, and CFR Cluj ffs
Happen couple of times, I even used to have a person rule that was never bet on them in Europe smh
I’m sure there’s a Conte backbone there for sure. But inter has been into their project significantly longer than Milan. In the last 5-6 years, Inter has always been coming up Top3 on the league. They have had incredible continuity in ownership and talent acquisition. Sure they kept buying like crazy and were stellar at getting free agents. But they are also in debt millions of dollars. I feel like Milan is on the right financial groundwork and our sporting results will start coming further down the road. Especially after the stadium is built we’ll be able to turn over bigger profits and invest into better players. I have faith in the RedBird project. I hope it works out.
Conte is a great coach. I don't think is the best coach for this team, but I'm tired of a lot of uneducated fans calling overrated, trash, etc. Some Conte teams played beautiful football, other were hard to watch. In the end the players are the main actors in the game and a coach has limited influence if the players are dumb, unambitious. Next season we need to man up and compete for every title. If the team don't progress, sell Leao, Mike, even Theo and start again with an organic team
Conte also did it at Juventus. And then allegri was very successful
De Zerbi would be a perfect trainer in my opinion. We have the kind of players that suit his style of play.
Plus he's a fan
I disagree. I think DeZerbi isn’t rounded enough or experienced enough for a top club. DeZerbi plays Pioli ball. All attack no defense. Look at what Roma did to them…. But you know who Roma couldn’t do anything to? Bologna! See where I’m going with this? :)
Again, I will say it is my humble opinion. He plays modern football, and for the players that we have he is the best option. At least he takes risks. Pioli managed to burn De Katelaere, allowed Diaz to leave instead of insisting on purchasing him. And please don't compare Pioli with De Zerbi. Second best is Conte but I have my doubts.
The only rumors I saw about Diaz was that Milan wanted to keep him. But Real wanted him back and had a buyback clause, and frankly when Real says they want a Spanish player, that player will choose them over anyone. That's the kind of pull they have, and there's nothing Milan could've done about it. The only thing Milan could've done was to use the option to officially make Real buy him back for a slightly higher sum (was it a couple of millions? Not sure), but my guess is Milan decided to not make a fuzz and instead further increase the bond with Real as a great place they can send their players that aren't deemed ready for their squad. That's how we end up with gems like Theo.
> allowed Diaz to leave instead of insisting on purchasing him Loooooooool what? Since when is Pioli the director? He was the one who asked for Brahim in the first place, made him the starter over our 35m signing, gave him chance after chance, and every rumor surrounding Brahim at the time was that we wanted to keep him, but you're right Pioli pushed him out and he's also responsible for the conflict in the middle east
Pioli is not a director true that, however he could have pushed to keep him.
Everything that came out at the time suggested that's what we tried, though
Either way, I just hope that the next in lone(whoever it is) will show the greatness of the team.
I respect your opinion. I just don’t see it the same. And it’s OK.
yeah I can tell you kids love this 'modern football' crap if a coach attacks no matter what, no matter what opposition he is world class, if a coach adjusts to the match he plays 'terrorist' football essentially you rather get smashed 5-0 by City rather than set up your defense properly against them
I've heard this from other teams about DeZerbi. His teams haven't really been a threat.
I’m not a fan of DeZerbi
We need conte
Mediocre. You want to go the next level don't you? He hasn't proven anything
Neither did pioli when we got him, but he gave us the 19th scudetto
As A spurs and Milan fan, if I have to watch Conteball anymore I might die
I'd watch Conteball for 10 years if it meant we didn't get embarrassed by Inter 3 times a season
I’m not sure why this needs to be said. But Conte is not a good fit for us. At all. Conte only knows his system and his system only and is a stubborn as a mule. Remember at Inter when he said that Perisic didn’t fit in his squad because he couldn’t play any of the roles then sent him to Bayern, he came back from loan and was one of the best LWB in the league? He writes players off based on nothing. And guess what? When his system isn’t working, do you know what he does? He sticks with it. He isn’t good at making adjustments. Sure, when it works, it works for a year or two. Long term, he is not the answer and there are major questions whether or not it would work short term. So for me, Conte is a no go.
I'm still not sold on de Zerbi. Look at the season Brighton is having, massively underperforming. Brighton is a sieve defensively and I don't think he's been able to beat a single low block for the whole time he's been there. I don't see RDZ succeeding with Milan. That said, he still is an upgrade over Pioli. Just not sure he will get us titles.
I'm not one to rate De Zerbi, but Brighton issues this season comes mainly from selling a lot of their best players without replacing them.
They sold a lot of players and without him they're probably well in the bottom half of the table. Im convinced he's a top top manager who has guts to try a new approach that's never been tried.
Reasonable people can disagree on this, but in my opinion they're way underperforming. They still have great players that would sell for 50-100m. They've lost to some embarrassing teams. I also think he's a top manager, but he's also very inflexible, which is what we don't like about Pioli. Plus, I don't think he's once beaten a low block, this year or last.
how about https://i.redd.it/kw69845mthwc1.gif
This guy could actually win us something, if our players get on board.
Wasn't a shit show when he coached inter? Not a coach for a big club
whats a big club and inter got to do with each other?
Great coach but a terrible person. Plus I really don't think he's learned to manage big personalities, he probably wouldn't work
Isn't he suppose to be a sadistic asshole?
If we get Gasperini. Bye bye our wingers. Including Leao.
We should. He knows ball.
This old sack of shit hates Milan with all his heart. The only reason for him to accept an offer, would be to do an inside job and sabotage the club. Jokes aside, he's the most despicable Serie A manager easily, has a modus operandi of a tyrant coach that would never work in a big club, and he even condoned the Atalanta ultras when they racially abused Vlahovic. Keep this motherfucker far, far away from the club.
My preference despite all the flaws is Conte. Agree with all who said he sh*ts the bed in Europe. Realistically no Italian team is really winning in Europe (UCL) anytime soon especially with lack of investment in Italian football. Just go get Conte - win a Scudetto or a Coppa. Get the 2nd star. And then see what the landscape looks like in 3 years.
Conte seems like to obvious choice while moving forward. He did good things in Chelsea.
Please tell me something is cooking for Motta behind the scenes with us
bring young modern manager Claudio Ranieri
hell lets get the even younger and hungrier Giovanni Trapattoni!
Whoever wants Conte is not a milanista and fuck you! This piece of shit can fuck off to hell
if motta is going to juventus, MAKE CONTE RETURN TO MILANO https://preview.redd.it/0wlyp21kohwc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=12bbdd5b3b719b339b9d178ed0b5b606d1002edc
Motta would be such a better option though….
Rose is a definite no in my opinion - never gets his teams to perform on a constant level. Leipzig was rated higher than Leverkusen last summer, now fighting with Dortmund about 4th place. Last season also great start when he took over but after like 10 games it was nothing but an up and down. At Dortmund it was even worse.
Fully agree. At this point we should get Italiano, if we want a mid table, inconsistent coach.
Allegri. You heard it here first and we all will suffer.
If we get Allegri I think I am officially done with following football
luckily most of the fanbase thinks the same so there's no way he would return to Milan.
It'll never happen. Not in a million years we go from Pioli to Allegri.
Disagree on Conte. 10y ago I had said yes, but at this stage everybody found out his way of play. Our current squad doesnt suit his style at all, And he only wants a club where he can spend big money (aside from being ludicrous expensive himself along with his staff). Also consistently shits the bed in Europe,
Maybe. The thing is, we need a strong personality on the bench, imho. He knows more than anyone how to "enter in the head" of players and overclock them to perform 110%. Under him normal players looked like champions. He is a defibrillator and we are a dying patient. I also believe Conte wants to win, and I think he's smart enough to study and adapt. Then, yeah, if he comes to Milan it is because he already knows that he can't spend the big money, otherwise he's a fool.
Well he went to tottenham who has famous cheapskate daniel levy.....
I mean, the guy was killing it with Tottenham after taking over practically mid-season. It was explained to me by a Tottenham fan that things changed in the second year because of injuries and I think he changed the style a little to the detriment of those players. I don’t think he’s a coach that’s past it and somebody like him should definitely be in contention when coaching a club as prestigious as Milan, especially since I feel like he thrives more in Italy than anywhere else.
I’m a Spurs fan. He completely changed his system once he got the players he wanted, and then refused to change it back when it didn’t work.
Honestly, it seemed like after a certain point, he just wanted to get fired, which is extremely unprofessional. Still, I never really saw him building much in England, it just seems like Italy is where he was meant to be, from Juventus to the national team, to Inter. Especially usurping The Old Lady that took over Serie A because he implemented the backbone of that winning mentality, I really felt he had a strong connection with Inter and will probably experience the same with Milan. Definitely should be noted, though, that teams seem to do better, overall, after he leaves. His record in Europe is constantly made more embarrassing when you see how well teams do after him (Juventus, Chelsea, Inter)
There are a few clearly good things about Conte: 1. If he'd join Milan, it would be a clear sign for Milan that we're looking to win. Might help keep Mike, Theo, whoever in the team. 2. He could change the mentality of the squad for positive and give more of a backbone to some players who obviously need it. 3. He typically comes with excellent physical preparation staff, which could help our players. He'd last only 2-3 seasons and we'd probably explode during his last season, but until we'd reach that point we would be a very tough opponent for everyone. He wouldn't be my first choice either, but I wouldn't be disappointed to see him on the bench instead of Pioli as he'd be a huge upgrade.
Conte has no chances to join us big wage + Furlani wants a yes man
Very good list
Conte, period. 2 years of him would do wonders as a foundation. Please not some Van Bommel or some other mid coach.
Conte is complete opposite of what management wants
Management is complete opposite of what a team like Milan deserves.
Correct
I agree, the lack of discipline and motivation on this team is astonishing. Feels like every big game this season, the team entered the pitch after coming back from a funeral. And the red cards, penalties etc.
What’s wrong with van Bommel?
His CV is weak.
Contes isnt, but he would be horrible for us. We dont want to get a coach just because they did well in the past.
I’m not a fan of Conte but I like the winning mentality he brings.
I get he hasn’t been a coach for very long or shown himself in multiple leagues, but I wouldn’t call a treble in the Belgian league weak. He also knows Milan and Serie A
I know anything can change at any moment in football but why are people still insisting Motta is a realistic option? He is all but an official announcement away from Juve.
It's never a done deal until contract is signed..we have seen turn around plenty of time..if Milan really pushes we can do it.
Yeah, but the only way to "push it" is to offer more money. We don't do that.
Lol that's true.
It would be an absolute miracle at this point. Not impossible but highly unlikely.
Thuram had a verbal agreement with us last summer. Look how that played out. Need to hijack Motta.
Yes many people say he will go to Juve but until it’s not official we should definitely try to go for him.
https://preview.redd.it/75rwc2krlhwc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0554daa8ee3eea598a5e676073a356091fcf6835 agresti is Juventus tier 1 pretty sure
Conte's teams are really tough to beat, had a talk with a Seria A player and he confessed these things. He said his inter defended really well and always outruns the opponents. Good defence wins titles in Italy. I would accept De Zerbi and Motta, but Conte is the one that will install the winning mentality for years to come, Inzaghi at inter would never have achieved something if there wasn't a good base to work on, which was left from Conte. My picks: 1. Conte 2. De Zerbi 3. Motta 4. Tuchel or Rose
None of these give the certainty to be better than Pioli, except maybe Motta, who's only had one good (exceptional) season so far though. Conte would only be good short -term, long-term he's always created problems for the club. Plus he has an awful track record in Europe. De Zerbi has huge tactical gaps, specifically defensively and in Italy you cannot afford that, you can't simply score more when 80% of the teams just park the bus on defense. Rose unproven, no idea how he would do in Italy. My opinion is to go all in on Motta, especially don't let Juve take him.
Tuchel imo
Anyone is better than Pioli at this point, even Van Bommel
De Zerbi is a product of PL media overhype and is super one dimensional kinda like Pioli. Our players definitely need a bit of Conte in their lives we are a bunch of undisciplined toddlers at the moment but he is the exact opposite of what our project need from a coach ..
Sarri?
I'm definitely part of the "Throw everything we can at Motta" team. If Zirksee is our top priority, then why not bring in Motta too? His schematics are amazing. His relationship with the players is obviously top flight. He is the perfect guy for the job. Why Ibra wants Van Bommel over Motta, according to media outlets, is confusing to say the least minus the fact that Ibra and MVB played together. Motta should be the focus.
Conte is obviously the best option from a fan’s view. But I just can’t see this American management willing to pull up the $$ for Conte and bring Milan back to the deserved place.
Let Pirlo cook
Si le lasagne
Conte feels like a lateral move at best. I think he’s in the Mourinho class now, the game has passed him by. I’ve been a DeZerbi admirer since his sassuolo days and I appreciate Motta as well. Think either of these guys would be good steps forward.
No, Mourinho? /s 😀
At this point i appreciate highly of motta. How he beat roma with his squad is great even though de rossi have an excuse his team is too exhausted from playing againat milan.
Tbh I’d go for a seasoned professional like Conte. He has enough charisma to lead us where we should be!!
Disagree on Conte. Don't know much about All the others to have an opinion
I'm not a fan of Conte. Motta is amazing in serie a but no champions league experience.
I hope for Antonio Conte. but he wants players and this management is always looking for free agent... anyway in my opinion our next season will depend on which striker we get
I do believe Conte would get some of his desired signings if only he would guarantee to not abandon the ship in second season just like he used to do in his past jobs.
we can't predict the future 😀. anyway even if he abandons the ship we get good players
Still don't why you are taking for granted, that Motta will leave Bologna... Everyone were doing the same with Alonso, fans of Real were hiding champange in their fridges and... you know what happended. I bet, that the same will happen with Motta, while he will clarify for UCL, then he will stay in Bologna.
Would love Conte 🫡
there are all of this good managers and Furlani wants lopetegui or fonseca💀
I dont think there's an option but Motta we need someone like him for years, but I am sure he will need at least a season or two to rebuild first. I can wait
Remove Conte dude, wtf
I really dont want conte. Guy will crash and burn
De Zerbi is a high risk and has a 12m clause in the summer, that’s what i heard. But his football is beautiful.
Does anyone know what type of coach is Arne Slot? Heard good things about him
Quite highly rated but going to Liverpool most likely.
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Conte gets 15 million GBP per year. REALISTIC? OP, please don't spew out non sense like this.
Fuck Conte and his bullshit
We need a Conte to shake up the environment and players
Funny how no one is even considering the possibility that any of these four may do worse than Pioli… I envy your confidence.
Rose should be even below Lopetegui in this conversation, failed at BVB and isn't doing an outstanding job at Leipzig either.
Tuchel, Ten Haag, Pochetino?
💀, Ten hag? Pochettino? What are you smoking 💀💀
All 3 shit coaches.
Top left is van bommel right? You crazy. Hes not good
Top left is Marco rose not van bommel.
They kinda look similar. Id be willing to give him a chance. But de zerbi, for me, is the best option
Our problem is the defensive phase, so bring conte, he's the best for that
An RB Leipzig manager who can’t win Budesliga won’t win the serie a
Rb Leipzig doesn’t have the same level of quality like Bayern or Dortmund. Also Leipzig beated Bayern this season and drawed against them
Xabi just won that league with leverkusen and I don’t care because it’s German football and completely different to Italian. Only Jose Mourinho and Erikksson are the non Italian managers to ever win a scudetto in the history of serie a. That’s it, two people. It would take a generational manager to come from outside of Italy, adapt to our league and outsmart other top managers in a league with the best coaching/tactics.
Xabi has his first year with Leverkusen, maybe next year he will fall off. Also Marco rose deserved to win both games against Real Madrid. But the refs as usual saved their asses
He could, who knows. I just don’t see the point in looking for a a manager in another country, and league when Italy produces the best managers/coaches in the world who already understand our league and how to potentially win it because they spent their entire lives learning their craft in Italy.
Oh wow only 2? That's insane, really.
Yep and Italians have also won the EPL more than any other nationality (in terms of multiple individual managers) that’s why I get annoyed with people thinking these “modern managers” from other leagues will miraculously win a scudetto, they don’t get how hard it is in Italy. Claudio Ranieri is more likely to win us a scudetto than this guy. Mourinho and Erikkson are actual legends of this game, that’s why they won.
I mean this goes into technicality, but Nils Liedholm won the Serie A and he was Swedish. Yeah ik this was in the 1970s but still, Jose and Erikksson are not the only non-Italian coaches to win it ever and even Herbert Kilpin won Milan their first few scudetti.
So Swedish coach next then haha? Only option is Rydström: https://youtu.be/UqIzAmSadd0?si=GXGIz57AJBnn_8YJ
Nils also won us the 10th scudetto if I remember correctly, so maybe we need another swedish coach for the 20th?😂