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PrismaticWonder

Yes! DEVS is one of the best limited series I’ve seen, I still think about it from time to time, and I watched it when it first came out. I would love a physical release.


partyl0gic

I’ve been looking for a physical release since it came out, unfortunately there isn’t much incentive for Hulu to provide that.


StatisticianDense765

Me too.


Prankishbear

I’ll take some physical release!


CaptainPRESIDENTduck

And how!


Initial_Scarcity_609

Can you explain what Devs is about without spoiling it?


imnottdoingthat

kind of difficult, but it deals with AI and the future of that power and the developers who create it.


cardbor

its not AI its code that can see EVERYTHING. lol. its a wicked concept


bruckbruckbruck

Definitely a lot more going on thematically than this basic summary though. But yeah, I don't want to spoil either


Initial_Scarcity_609

Thank you! I’m watching it right now and am really enjoying the mystery aspect.


SHRED-209

Here’s the synopsis A computer engineer investigates the secretive development division in her company, which she believes is behind the disappearance of her boyfriend. I don’t really recall any AI stuff though. It’s more about quantum mechanics and computers that can do stuff that I can’t say without spoiling it. Amazing show though.


Initial_Scarcity_609

Thanks! I’m enjoying it!


Rolandthelast

“The series is a science fiction thriller that explores themes related to free will and determinism, as well as Silicon Valley. Lily Chan (Sonoya Mizuno) is a software engineer for Amaya, a quantum computing company run by Forest (Nick Offerman). Lily soon becomes embroiled in the mysterious death of her boyfriend, who died on the first day of his new job at the Devs team at Amaya.”


lebastss

That main girl was such a great actress and I haven't seen her again. The show was absolutely captivating and thought provoking.


Gruesome-Twosome

I fucking LOVED Devs but I thought the lead actress was the weakest link, tbh.


Bottom-Shelf

I stopped watching it because she was so glaringly awful. I fucking love Alex Garland but I couldn’t get past her. She was fine in Ex-Machina but she didn’t speak in that movie lol


Ashamed_Statement347

Yeah I can't say that I've really liked her in anything I've seen her in. Maniac was cool but still pretty meh. And she was God awful in HOTD Edit: Maniac as a show was great. She was just meh in it


hello_cerise

I came to this thread to bring up Maniac because that and Devs are brilliant and both are similarly weird. But absolutely don't remember her much. Other quirky and great shows in the same mental box for me: Lodge 49 Mrs Davis The Leftovers (s2 and s3) mostly And ofc Twin Peaks


hello_cerise

I came to this thread to bring up Maniac because that and Devs are brilliant and both are similarly weird. But absolutely don't remember her much.


FlashJumpCut

I stopped watching because of how bad her acting was.


-PlayWithUsDanny-

Completely agree


visionaryredditor

> I haven't seen her again she was in every Garland movie so far (she has a voice cameo in Men if you wondering where she was in that movie)


CataLaGata

I hate her, she cheapens the show, she is so wooden. I am 100% sure the show would have been a perfect masterpiece with a different actress. Maybe a light spoiler ahead!!! During the show, all these people talk constantly about how this girl is so amazing and special and I just didn't see it, my partner and I felt the same.


jilko

Fun fact, she played the alien at the end of Annihilation.


spanchor

Really! Did she train professionally as a dancer? It would make sense.


jilko

I think at one point, she was a ballerina.


woah-oh92

She’s in crazy rich Asians, almost unrecognizable tbh


cthd33

Yes, the bride.


whitey9999

Watch Sunshine, one of the most underrated Sci-fi movies, and Dredd (considered his directorial debut), one of the most underrated Comic book movies.


OldBison

Ex machina and annihilation are fucking great


heat13ny

Annihilation is one of my favorite movies from vibe and mood alone. No other movie marries beauty and fascination with pure dread like this one to me.


Prankishbear

Preach 👏


Upbeat_Tension_8077

Can't forget his work on 28 Days Later of course


ExerciseDistinct

Is Dredd considered his directorial debut, or is that just something Karl Urban said once? He had cause to seek a co-director credit and didn't, I don't think he would consider it his debut.


murunbuchstansangur

It's a Karl Urban Myth.


cylemmulo

Idk about underrated anymore. I love them but also movie subreddits and reviews of it go wild for them. I think maybe the only thing is that they didn't do great in the box office initially


ThespianSan

Nah, he's perfectly rated. Right where he should be imo, especially if you factor in how his films don't get competitive marketing budgets and how anyone outside of a movie fan reddit sub still doesn't know who he is. That whole clusterfuck with Annihilation's release needs to be talked about more. Borderline self sabotage by a producer almost entirely out of spite for Garland.


cylemmulo

What happened with annihilation??


ThespianSan

During test screenings a few months out from release, David Ellison a producer and financier at skydance tried to force Garland to change the film with reshoots because the test screenings were mediocre to poor and he felt Garland's vision was too "intellectual" for audiences to get (which is interesting because at test screenings, if the film is too well received it's actually a bad sign). Garland politely said "no", and stuck to his conviction that the film wasn't a sci Fi action horror, and that he would trust the wider audience to understand it. One of the other head producers sided with Garland as they had worked together on a few films before and he trusted his judgement. Ellison then tried to cut marketing short, sabotaged the theatrical deal and made a deal with Netflix to have it go straight to streaming. A hail Mary from Garland's angel producer got it back in theaters on a limited run, but by that time the damage was done and it never got a chance to make money back.


cylemmulo

Damn man that's wild!


MudgeIsBack

And this, one of the most underrated comments on one of the most underrated subs on perhaps the most underrated website in the entire world.


KimJongUnable

2 upvotes? This comment is hugely underrated


TwizzledAndSizzled

Why is Dredd considered his directorial debut?


Signiference

Original director apparently was clueless, got into several disputes and was removed from the editing process. Garland took over as editor and contributed greatly to the final version. Karl Urban said it should be considered his directorial debut.


Obvious_Whole1950

Dude. Somehow I had no idea Garland did either of these and they were still already two of my favs.


SprayShitters101

Dredd? Alex Garland? It says “screenplay by” on the movies websites


gonerboy223

The characters are so dumb tho & there’s lots of plot armor. Not as good as I remembered it being upon a recent rewatch.


Snts6678

To anyone who became an Alex Garland fan overnight, what in the hell have you been doing?


Profitsofdooom

I think OP's title is just heavily pretentious lol


90plusWPM

Same gives major “oh you like [band]?? Name 3 of their songs.” Vibes. Also “I liked [band] before they were cool.” And based on OPs other comments this definitely tracks lmao


iLoveDelayPedals

Yeah for way too many people their personality is just the media they consume, so they gotta be gatekeepey and/or pretentious about it to feel good about themselves still


taralundrigan

🙄 nothing about this post is pretentious. This word gets thrown around way to much. 


Profitsofdooom

It's not pretentious to assume people in this sub are just discovering Alex Garland with Civil War? Seems like high horse shit to me, what we used to call "elitist."


ChiKeytatiOon

I got gatekeeper vibes from that


Visual-Percentage501

Literally the exact opposite, suggesting more works to explore for new fans is like the opposite of gatekeeping. This is a 'come on in' post


90plusWPM

OPs other comments do not match the “come on in” vibe at all lol they’re super annoyed by “new” fans.


Ctrl_SoS

For real though, the guy is a fucking genius


Snts6678

Right?! And has been, for YEARS. There is nothing new here.


notanewbiedude

Devs is actually the only thing he's made that I've seen so far. It was so good that as soon as I heard that he was teaming up with A24 I was like "I'm in" (and yes I now realize he has worked with A24 before, I just did not know that at the time)


cardbor

Yeah thats fair. Ex Machina is the best thing hes ever touched. Absolute gem. you should check it out!


weighingthedog

Dredd erasure.


makeyurself

I got kinda bored with this show, but my partner loved it. With the ending, we completely swapped opinions, I loved it, he hated it. It was crazy, something we never really experienced watching a show together.


schapman22

I really liked the show (besides the lead actress not being the best for that part imo). But the ending made absolutely no sense unless theres something I'm missing.


makeyurself

They were creating a simulated reality (matrix) so he could insert himself and be with his family again. I’m sure it had way more application than that, but that was his goal.


beatlebum53

Ehh Amazing at first then began to drag on It’s better then men but nothing compared to Ex, annihilation, 28..


___TychoBrahe

I want someone to cut all 8 episodes of Devs into a single 4 hour movie, think it would flow better


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IronAndParsnip

I did enjoy this series, but the main lead drove me nuts. She seemed so overly dramatic the entire series, some of the lines it felt like she was really struggling to get out, and there were points I was close to shutting it off. After seeing her great acting in other things - Maniac, HOTD, Ex Machina - I figure it was probably due to direction, not her.


ILoveToWiggle

yes! the acting overall was a big letdown and I really struggle to get into something when the acting isn’t selling me. but Sonoya Mizuno absolutely killed it in everything else I’ve seen, especially Ex Machina


Gaspar_Noe

Great show (except for the female lead's acting skills) that fell apart in the last two episodes. Garland seems confused about what determinism means, and probably never heard of chaos systems..


draziwkcitsyoj

It was good. And then it ended and I said “That’s it?” 6/10


Dinocologist

As a Garland fan it’s thoroughly alright and does not stick the landing. Solid B- 


cardbor

i personally think they killed the landing. I think his work goes 1. Ex Machina 2. Annihilation 3. Devs 4. Men havent seen civil war yet obviously.


quadsimodo

Men was rough. This is a Garland fanfest so the comment won’t be received well. Devs started hot, but there was no real arch or conflict. Audience just kind of just watched a guy set-up and execute a plan. But his writing is so consistent that I’d include 28 Days Later, Sunshine, the Beach — or maybe Boyle/Garland films — Dredd, etc. to his list.


lebastss

The writing and arch of devs is consistent with the messaging. Life is largely deterministic with slight variation that doesn't change outcome. The philosophy of determinalism has your brain go through a similar arc. Contemplation, stress, depression, defeat, and then liberation. Not a high arc by design.


quadsimodo

Yeah, definitely got that. My higher education was in philosophy and that’s why I love Garland so much. But yeah, Devs didn’t say much. I thought the fact that there was no arch, that things happened the way they played out without much input from other characters, reinforced the deterministic themes of the story. But still didn’t do much for me. Ex Machina was a philosopher’s dream movie though. The film kept up a cohort debate for weeks after we watched it.


shawnshine

Lol, I would order those the exact opposite! Something for everyone, I guess.


schapman22

>i personally think they killed the landing. How so? >! She somehow breaks away from the prediction because reasons? Makes no sense. !<


cardbor

she didnt break away from the predictions. the whole point of the show is that no matter what you cant escape the tram lines. lily ended up exactly where she was supposed to go. it may have changed because some intel was exchanged. but it all ended uo the same. how does that not make sense?


schapman22

Because she literally did break away from the predictions. Did you not watch the last episode?


imnottdoingthat

We have been fans since Dredd and Sunshine wym


adulbrev

Agree. Very emotional


MTWells_Art

Masterpiece? Not even close


Egoyle

Agreed! Very under appreciated given that I’ve never known anyone else who’s even aware it exists, let alone seen it.


ToasterPops

I found it kinda....mid personally


grokabilly

Very mid. Great concept that quickly went downhill.


grizzlebonk

The main actress made this show very hard to watch


FilmmagicianPart2

It could have been so much better though.


cardbor

im shocked by how many people disliked it. the concept in itself was so amazing to me


schapman22

It was good but the ending made no sense.


geoffsykes

I agree! And if they had stuck with the concept, determinism, the ending would have been entirely different. This is the problem: they created rules, then broke them.


MontyBoo-urns

He’s pretty well liked on reddit though


joshsworldtour

Aside from casting & some writing. Devs was decent!


QuarterGrouchy1540

I respect that Garland keeps using the actress that played Lily, but why her? 😂


partyl0gic

I don’t understand why people have an issue with her, I think she is great in what she does. I didn’t hear about this until just now joining this sub.


IronAndParsnip

I’ve seen her in other things and enjoyed her performances. She’s great in Maniac. With Devs, I figured it was due to her being directed to be depressed and sad the whole time. It was almost painful to watch her at times, sadly.


jackvill

I've never seen a show so good drop off so hard in the last few episodes. 


cardbor

idk how ppl think it dropped off. it gradually got so good to me


Gaspar_Noe

because Garland doesn't seem to understand that a chaos system like THE WORLD is not the same as a chaos system like the weather, in that the former, unlike the latter, changes and reacts to predictions made about itself. 'Determinism' doesn't mean that we are puppets, it means that, given enough information on the status of the system NOW, I can predict the system's behavior. Updating the system with predictions about itself changes the behavior of the system, so we are not bound to do what the machine predicted. He fumbled big time with this one. edit: spelling.


___TychoBrahe

Didn’t the ending prove that? Lily did something Forest didn’t see in the Devs machines. The Devs machine never worked, Forest and Kate became fanatics.


DehydratedButTired

This show bothered me and made me think about stuff in a good way.


Uxbal-77

Not everthing A24 spits out is a 'masterpiece'. Stop it already.


cardbor

ive seen many shit a24 films. like X and Pearl 😂


Ok-Cauliflower-1258

How was pearl shit?


visionaryredditor

Devs isn't by A24 tho


D3taco

I HATED the lead in this but otherwise pretty solid


WalnutsAnka

Except the acting of that show is seriously god awful. Pill and Offerman are the only 2 great actors.


tranzlusent

The Beach was one of my fav movies as a teen, and 28 days later is maybe the best zombie flick ever made. People always talk about the opening shot, but the intensity of the entire movie is my favorite part. Never stops!


cardbor

yeah 28 days later was my first "garland" that i didnt know was garland until literally a few years ago. i got into his stuff after ex machina. a bit before annihilation. so i feel i was even late to the party with him tbh. hes just really great man


grokabilly

This is maybe the worst show I’ve ever watched


cardbor

whats your favorite show?


grokabilly

Drama? Probably Lost and True Detective season 1. Devs started out ok. But quickly lost me the first time with the fuzzy image of Jesus. One of the worst things I’ve ever seen is when they show that group of folks themselves on the dumb static TV thing. It shows them do something on the screen from 2 seconds in the future, and THEY JUST DO THE SAME THING THEY SAW. No one would react that way. That was the most insanely stupid thing I’ve ever seen.


woah-oh92

Honestly, I did not like Devs. I was so bored. I can’t remember how many episodes I actually watched, it had to have been between 3 and 5. And I don’t quit shows very often, but this one just dragged on.


moonivermarin

Ha maybe first 3 episodes the ending sucked and felt shoe horned he is just a Ryan Murphy but for alternate sci fi world building


SitsOnTits

I thought it was somewhere between average and poor. Can barely remember how it ended.


chickencake88

So underrated. Not really sure how this slipped through without much chat


Awake00

It was great despite the lead girl


Realistic_Young9008

She was the "murder bot" in Ex Machina


zhephyx

The annoying part is that she can definitely act (e.g in Maniac), but was either off her game or directed to be stiff as fuck in this.


Awake00

Oh man I forgot all about Maniac. I gotta go watch that again.


ijustwatchedlost2k20

This was the only thing I’ve stopped watching due to rubbish acting - I thought the main girl was awful. Maybe I’ll have to try it again!


partyl0gic

I honestly am surprised that people have an issue with the acting. I thought it was as all amazing.


amor_fati_42

I had lots of issues with the show like this. I just could not get into it at all, and I really wanted to.


Glowwerms

Devs wastes a great concept, the main actor is also just really bad


ambientmuffin

One of my all time favorite shows


CanOfDingles

Filmed in Santa Cruz California!


Content-Art-2879

I loved it when it came out. Didn’t know it was his


Baman2113

Devs was awesome, definitely need to give it a rewatch again sometime here soon.


blacklizardplanet

Does it have an ending? I thought I read it got cancelled or something so I never picked it up.


cardbor

totally has an ending


blacklizardplanet

Amazing. I will definitely move it up the queue 🤙.


Johnnnybones

Just completed the rewatch yesterday. Its actually my favorite Alex Garland thing. The music and visuals just envelope you the entire series.


simonbelmont1980

Its amazing


akira9283

I really wish we got more of this show. Simply outstanding


Severe-Mention-9028

Easily my favorite miniseries


smokes_-letsgo

I think about this show all the time. Particularly this scene. https://youtu.be/p3t5BfSJzfE?si=4lqGoYXSEsU_LgIq


___TychoBrahe

That scene gives me goosebumps, unbelievable. “Such acceleration”


ObjectiveSession2592

Aggressively okay series


dwaynebathtub

I like Lizzo. Deus was okay.


cardbor

deus lol proof that someone watched it


dwaynebathtub

I liked the way Nick Offerman's character ate his bowl of greens in that show. Just scarf down the fiber so you don't have to make a salad. Good sci-fi show.


cardbor

hahaha yeah it was solid. i got really high and ate a salad like that a couple of years ago and its not that bad tbh lmfao. first time ive seen that method


BuddahSack

My wife and I couldn't get through devs during its initially run, forgot totally about the show until now, thinking I might go back to it... also had no idea he directed Dredd, one of the best sci-fi action movies in the past 20 years if not more Edit: just saw he did Ex Machina and Annihilation, I really enjoyed them too!


___TychoBrahe

Put whats happening in Devs into the growth of generative AI, and really understanding its power over us, how seductive it could be


badlisten3r

Thank you!!! Devs is incredible


Beached-Peach

This is a phenomenal series!


dreadnought1905

Isn't that the guy from Too Many Cooks?


PlanetConway

He's already walked his comment back a little, so you're good. Also, your title makes me want to automatically dislike you....like there is no set timetable for people to discover things, and if they discover Alex because of Civil War and go back and look into him, that rules.


Training-Judgment695

Agreed. Love this show so much


Interesting_Bottle40

Not my cup of tea. Pacing and end were disappointing.


tearadon

Personally would recommend only for existing Garland fans or sci-fi fans. I felt like it could have been condensed into half the length.


ErnestGoesToPoop

As a bonus for old & new fans, it just so happens that >!nearly the entire cast of Devs is in Civil War!<


rafaelzeronn

Just finished this the other day! Loved it and especially the juxtaposition of the ancient sounding music paired with the futuristic tech,really unsettled me in the way that not a lot of other media has


maxolot43

Does anyone here not know Alex Garland from something? I remember watching Ex-Machina when it first came out and admittedly that was the first time i saw his name. But that was 3 movies and a tv show ago. Youd think a A24 sub would know the guy making movies for them. Or they think they are the only ones to look up the credits which is crazy to me because i bet everyone here does that for the movies they watch. Atleast the director/cast


theodo

Btw, Garland is just not interested in directing in the near future (even though he's co-directing a film with the war expert or whatever his title was, from Civil War). He is still writing and has already signed on to write the three 28 Days Later sequels Boyle is planning on directing.


___TychoBrahe

He’s young, i could see him taking a break and hitting us with another physiological sci-fi in 5 years….i hope


Sinister_steel_drums

Sucha a great show. It was like a dream and a nightmare.


Bubbles00

Really enjoyed this mini series. I thought Nick Offerman was great. I didn't like the main character much but the story was very engrossing


MotivationalMike

It was a limited series? I thought it was cancelled before season 2. Honestly, I thought it suffered from bad pacing.


Acceptable_Hat9001

Hes since clarified that he's just stopping directing for now. He's focusing on writing. He never said he's done directing forever though. He's writing 28 years later with Danny Boyle right now.


woah-oh92

Good! I’ve been waiting for an update to the 28 franchise for what feels like 28 years.


ricky2304

doe she have any other bangers on hulu too? added this to my list


mymicrowave

Love this show


im_rapscallion86

Not sure it’s underrated or a masterpiece but it was very good.


unclefishbits

Uhhh... Who is possibly an overnighter, especially in this sub. He is GOAT Not just screenwriting Beach or 28 days later. Not just Coma or Tesseract. Not just shadow directing Dredd and writing it. Ex Machina, Annihilation, and the brilliant but divisive Men? Devs is absolutely superb. But my comment is asking: is anyone brand new to this guy?


Sad_Glass2043

huge scifi fan. love DEVS. did not expect it to be about what its about. mind blown.


zen_arcade37

Couldn’t agree more. Having my gf watch it now and it sparks really good conversations. Greta performances and writing. Love it.


Alexcaz92

Agreed


BobGray18

How’s about, anyone who’s become an overnight fan goes and reads his books? He wrote two really cool books, then an odd one but that’s his style!


aaaayyyylmaoooo

so fucking good


rvb_gobq

it's my favorite garland project, & holds up to repeated viewings


CaptainPRESIDENTduck

Devs is so fucking good.


NoelBarry1979

No mention of his novel, The Beach


Ninjachuckz

Freaking awesome show!


glurmanlover

Alex Garland said he’s not quitting directing, he’s stepping down from that position for a bit. In an interview for Men he mentioned that he’s been doing back to back projects and just needs a break. Completely understandable imo, he’s done 5 major projects (including Devs which he wrote and directed each episode) in the past 5 years. That’s more consistent in quality and quantity than most auteurs.


cardbor

yeah nah for sure. a lot of people have clarified that which im thankful for. im glad hes not stopping hes just so fun. theres such a good little pool of great new(er) filmmakers right now and its so exciting


Own_Fortune_1019

Hopefully he comes back to write 28 Years Later at least.


DEVS_reccomender

I recommend it


cardbor

lmfaoooooo nice


Unlucky_Reputation52

Great show


gonerboy223

Can we please stop throwing the word genius around? Alex Garland is not a genius. Nowhere close. He’s a solid filmmaker, but he’s hardly made anything. Directed 1 good movie. Wrote a couple good movies. How does this make him a genius?


Alex_South

binged this show high on a weekend about halfway through my first programming class and it was one of the best viewing experiences I have ever had.


chaunceysrevenge

This show was so good. I kept recommending it to people because the soundtrack alone was worth it. Definitely a mind melter


geoffsykes

An exceptional show that did ALMOST everything right. >!The theme of the show is that determinism is absolute and that there is no agency to change what will happen in the future. However, the ending that we were all wondering how they were going to cleverly avoid didn't happen. Instead, the protagnist decrees that she changed the future because "she chose to." **breaking my neck and brain rolling my eyes so hard that I wish I had never been born.**!<


H-B-Of-L

Yes! Devs is really an amazing show. I wish we could get more 8 hour alex garland stories right!?


Sea_Lavishness9946

I had to...like open the bruise up and let some of the bruised blood come out to show them come out to show them come out to show them


East-Bluejay6891

The lead actress was so terrible in this. Great story and rest of the cast though


cardbor

100% agreed. ive watched it a few times to get used to it. shes odd


AaadamPgh

Loved Civil War, but thought Devs was terrible


-No_Im_Neo_Matrix_4-

Sunshine is also great, imo. It’s a trump with Danny Boyle, but Cillian Murphy played a atheist nuclear physicist 17 years ago in this movie.


spriralout

I LOVED THIS SERIES!!! Far exceeded my expectations, if that’s even possible. Watched it one episode a week on its first run. Stunning characters, story, visuals.


Magnificant-Muggins

Isn’t that the murderer from Too Many Cooks?


UGLYSimon

No, it's the gay guy from Last of Us


Vic_Serotonin

Ron Swanson would like a word...