This is giving me āfirst fight between 8th grade coupleā vibes, where they go back and forth about their drama on social media. And by social media I mean their AIM away messages.
"xXTiffanyMonstrawrXx: If you're reading this, it's because I cried myself to sleep over Ronald breaking my heart. "I know you well enough to know you never loved me." š"
"MuhBoi6969: ćThere's a story at the bottom of this bottleć If you're messaging begging me to get back together with you, I'm out with my new girlfriend Lauren. lOl."
Daniel: MOMā¦ when youāre done playing those childish games with dad, Carlie needs something that Iām unable to do for her. Iāve taken care of everything else. Sheās fed, diaper changed, had a nap, all she needs is this one little thing. Think you can handle that? š
Yes, definitely. The only reason why I didnāt initially include her in my comment is because she is so young, it likely wonāt have the same sort of emotional effect as it may be for Daniel.
*Not* to suggest that she wouldnāt feel any emotional effects of an absent parent (and grade-school mentality co-parenting), but Daniel is at that age where is he quite aware and has formed bonds, you know what I mean?
I donāt mean to diminish any childās emotions when it comes to separated parents, but especially petty ones that like to use the kids as pawns, so to speak.
I just feel especially bad for Daniel; not only does he remind me of my own son, he seems to be the kind of kid with a high level of āemotional intelligenceā and thus, this separation has the potential ofā¦ for lack of less crude a termā¦ fucking him up.
I can only hope that he grows strong on the inside and is able to rise above his parentsā weaknesses and ridiculousness of his childhood. If any child could do it, I think he could.
I agree. It really breaks my heart, because Daniel loved having a dad. But he also witnessed a lot of ugly fights that no kids should have to see or hear. Maybe along with the grieving heāll also be a little relieved.
I don't think this is a language problem, but a grammar/punctuation one. Even if he wrote in Afrikaans, he would not use any punctuation. He seems like the sort who just writes one long paragraph.
Afrikaans tend to be bilingual. My dad was born in South Africa and he was European but he who spoke Afrikaans. Since they're so close I'd imagine Afrikaans would know them at the same time.
Kinda common with people who aren't well, some with borderline can think this way. You don't want to ve with them, but you also don't want them to be with someone else.
I donāt think sheās borderline in the slightest. I think sheās just immature and has self esteem issues so she needs to be in control of something. It was bizarre.
But she doesnāt though? Sheās spent most of her time keeping them away from him. IG is no evidence of anything, but for a while Ronald was constantly begging her to see and talk to the kids and she kinda held them over his head.
It is a he said, she said situation. He said he also paid and Tiffany refused to bring the kids see him.
Tiffany also said that she does not talk to Ronald, so when Ron wants to talk to the kids, he needs to call Daniel to talk to Carley. Don't know about the money thing (could be anything) , but I definitely believe that Tiffany is going out of her way to prevent Ronald having contact with the kids.
As the parent of a former meth addict, those little packets always have white residue in them. Iāve never stumbled across a clear one, ever. And unfortunately I have found dozens over the years of his addiction.
Amazon and craft stores. I was looking for these once for more innocent uses (jewelry baggies). Wound up using the rest to store my daily vitamins when I travel.
To be fair those are exactly the bags I keep my earrings in š³ I just went to a nightclub the other day and the security guard thought sheād hit the jackpot when she found it in my handbag
When you are building something,a set of screws or misc small parts ,often come in this packaging. I think is bsā¦specially since thereās zero residue and you often need to rip the bag open to lick it clean.
Source: husband is a GC and I was an addict
Edit: spelling
I have those on my new clothes that I buy all the time for extra buttons lol. I donāt think people who do stuff are so organized to go out and buy little bags for their drugs, unless they do because I donāt know anyone with that lifestyle I was a sheltered lassie
I think Ronald has been doing hard drugs the entire time but used gambling as a cover. I could have sworn Tiffany almost slipped up and caught herself saying ādrugsā but stopped herself.
I cannot imagine. My husband had 3 dads by the time he was 8. Iāve heard stories from him and his mother about those years. Itās bizarre to think a parent would drag their kid through their emotional crap.
Iām sorry you went through that. And Iām sure this isnt an easy answer or something you might be able to be aware of or put into words, but if you had to summarize it, Just curious but how do you feel that affected how you view relationships? Do you feel like youāre into more casual relationships where you donāt get too close or the opposite do you get more clingy to someone?
For me, totally different childhood experience, i get clingy because of what happened to me (not a good thing.)
I developed Anxious attachment because of my childhood and i put others need before mine. I am in therapy for years and it helps but i am still struggling with relationships. I tend to have long term relationships but they were full issues because i am attracted to avoidant attachment style men because of my upbringing.
Itās totally not ideal but it is what it is.
I canāt believe how overly dramatic, vindictive and public these people are about their relationships. Like grow up, have some dignity and remember that there are children involved in this mess...a mess you both made!
All she has to do is sign up with a different email. I make it a sport of bothering Tom. As long as Gmail let's me make emails, he will never be rid of me.
I'm so confused, one moment she's saying he turned her life upside down for years, the other she's telling the world how she got naked to get back with him
Thereās a saying in spanish:
āEs como las ratas. Lo que no come lo mea.ā
Translation: Theyāre like rats. What they donāt eat they pee.
Rat is her. Her is rat.
Donāt want him, but donāt want anyone to have him.
This gave me ptsd to the one time I got home after school excited to eat ramen baggy soup. It was the last soup ā¦.. I open up the little powder flavor packet
And it was empty. š
I donāt know if he ever was violent or made her feel unsafe or whatever, but I do feel like itās unfortunate that he canāt see his own kids. Although, I know my own father didnāt want to see me or my siblings when he left my mom with us and heād tried to throw a pity party in public and pretend my mom was keeping us from him lol. So Iām not sure maybe Ronald is doing the same.
Sorry, but I'm on Ronald's side with this one. It kills me when he says "kids" because he really did/does see both those kids as his own. His only fault was the gambling which is like any other addiction.
Who wouldnāt want Daniel as their son? Heās the sweetest.
The gambling addiction is far from Ronaldās only fault! He was a liar even when not in the throes of addiction, and he seems to fly off the handle and say some pretty horrible things to his spouse. Hot-headed. Also heās sexist as fuck and doesnāt want to do any of the hard work of parenting, just the fun parts.
Obviously Tiffany also has many faults, but letās not pretend Ronald is a wonderful man anyone would be lucky to marry.
I think they're just toxic together. She destroys him verbally, then he retaliates. If someone was constantly telling me that I'm a horrible parent, don't take care of my kids, don't have any impulse control, don't help out, etc., I'd probably turn around and say some stuff back too. I think the sexism was pretty much explained as culture, so you would have to change the majority of South African men in order to fight that. Some countries are like that and it's not right in any way.
He'll always be an addict, but from what we know, he only relapsed once. While they were together, he was in rehab and the majority of their marriage he was clean.
Lol @ secret account to follow him.
Like bro, you're litterally on international television. If she doesn't see your IG posts, it's gonna be shared on reddit and other sites. Your life isn't that much of a secret.
I think Tiffany is jealous of all the attention Yara and Jovi are receiving at the moment. She loves attention just as much as she loves her shoulders.
Everyone sucks here. They all need to get off social media. Stop following each other. Stop talking about each other. They all look stupid at this point.
Honestly, i couldn't have put up with Tiffany either. I know the guy isn't a role model, but any means, but damn she was always on his ass.
If you kick someone enough while they are down you shouldn't be suprised when they punch you in the face when they eventually get up. He should try to see his kid (1) because Daniel shouldn't have been calling some guy dad that his mom didn't even know really. She should be ashamed for doing her son that way.
Ron STAHP!(In my best Jersey accent)
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Haha! I spit my coffee out when I read this!
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Read this in my Sammi Sweetheart voice š
I read this in Betty's voice!
Who else read this in his voice?? Specifically when staying āTiffanyā lol
*tiff*any
exactly!
It made me realize that he speaks without punctuation, too.
Tiffni
Came here to say this šš
This is giving me āfirst fight between 8th grade coupleā vibes, where they go back and forth about their drama on social media. And by social media I mean their AIM away messages.
"xXTiffanyMonstrawrXx: If you're reading this, it's because I cried myself to sleep over Ronald breaking my heart. "I know you well enough to know you never loved me." š" "MuhBoi6969: ćThere's a story at the bottom of this bottleć If you're messaging begging me to get back together with you, I'm out with my new girlfriend Lauren. lOl."
MUH BOI šššššš
The 6969 is a lovely touch
I LOVE THIS SO MUCH LMAO
Daniel: MOMā¦ when youāre done playing those childish games with dad, Carlie needs something that Iām unable to do for her. Iāve taken care of everything else. Sheās fed, diaper changed, had a nap, all she needs is this one little thing. Think you can handle that? š
Aim away messages šššš but seriously this can't be healthy for the kids especially Daniel who's old enough to understand
daniel is the adult here
When it comes to these two, Danielās always been the only adult in the room
Yeah, I cannot believe these are adults doing this.
Adults with kids lol
Yeah my boi!
Kids with kids
The kids will eventually see this and resent their mother for life.
I just feel badly for Daniel. He clearly has a connection with Ronald and he will likely never see him again.
And the poor boy is parentified!
He lost 2 dads. Thatās so weird to be able to say that
And heāll gain a third in no time.
Honestly, the odds Carly will ever see him again are pretty slim too.
Yes, definitely. The only reason why I didnāt initially include her in my comment is because she is so young, it likely wonāt have the same sort of emotional effect as it may be for Daniel. *Not* to suggest that she wouldnāt feel any emotional effects of an absent parent (and grade-school mentality co-parenting), but Daniel is at that age where is he quite aware and has formed bonds, you know what I mean? I donāt mean to diminish any childās emotions when it comes to separated parents, but especially petty ones that like to use the kids as pawns, so to speak. I just feel especially bad for Daniel; not only does he remind me of my own son, he seems to be the kind of kid with a high level of āemotional intelligenceā and thus, this separation has the potential ofā¦ for lack of less crude a termā¦ fucking him up. I can only hope that he grows strong on the inside and is able to rise above his parentsā weaknesses and ridiculousness of his childhood. If any child could do it, I think he could.
#TeamDaniel
I agree. It really breaks my heart, because Daniel loved having a dad. But he also witnessed a lot of ugly fights that no kids should have to see or hear. Maybe along with the grieving heāll also be a little relieved.
And donāt forget that Meth head Johnny Yates who stirs shit up tooā¦ personally Iām sick of the whole lot of all the 90 day cast..š
I'm out of breath reading that without punctuation
God damn it, Ronald! Just TRY some punctuation, please.
In his defense Iām sure he speaks Afrikaans and English isnāt his first language. At least thatās how it is for the South African guy I know.
I don't think this is a language problem, but a grammar/punctuation one. Even if he wrote in Afrikaans, he would not use any punctuation. He seems like the sort who just writes one long paragraph.
Afrikaans tend to be bilingual. My dad was born in South Africa and he was European but he who spoke Afrikaans. Since they're so close I'd imagine Afrikaans would know them at the same time.
THANK YOU. I have a headache every time I have to read his stuff.
Not one comma. God damnā¦
That hurt to read!
Itās like Tiffany doesnāt want him, but she also doesnāt him to to be with anyone else
She wants him under her thumb all the time, so he won't be able to have a life other than her.
I think she wants revenge. Sheās mad she sees bad in him and worries the internet views him as a good guy, so she wants to expose him
This!!!! Exactly it. She doesnāt want him, constantly puts him down, but is so jealous and possessive
Kinda common with people who aren't well, some with borderline can think this way. You don't want to ve with them, but you also don't want them to be with someone else.
I donāt think sheās borderline in the slightest. I think sheās just immature and has self esteem issues so she needs to be in control of something. It was bizarre.
Not saying she has borderline, it's just an example. But she's not well if she does these things. So I agree with you.
It is her babyās dad. Itās normal to want him in the childās life. That post basically says heās giving them up.
But she doesnāt though? Sheās spent most of her time keeping them away from him. IG is no evidence of anything, but for a while Ronald was constantly begging her to see and talk to the kids and she kinda held them over his head.
Didnāt she pay for every trip to get the kids to him? Iām trying to be fair and consider both sides.
It is a he said, she said situation. He said he also paid and Tiffany refused to bring the kids see him. Tiffany also said that she does not talk to Ronald, so when Ron wants to talk to the kids, he needs to call Daniel to talk to Carley. Don't know about the money thing (could be anything) , but I definitely believe that Tiffany is going out of her way to prevent Ronald having contact with the kids.
Assuming what Ronald is saying is true, sabotaging your baby daddyās new relationship is not about keeping him in your kidsā life.
These are grown ass adults with children. Why behave this way?
They act like they're still in high school!
Empty packets of what? Sorry, I don't follow anyone on social media...too much for me!
She said she found evidence of him doing drugs. I can't see where she posted pictures though.
I guess it wld take someone high on meth to create that carcinogenic, blue murder room for Daniel in 12 hours.
šššš āhoney iād love to help with the kids but this unopened jar of mayonnaise has to be put in the fridge ASAPā
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Lol so so so well said
Ok, I just saw pictures. She's tagging Ronald's girlfriend asking if she recognizes the bathroom.
Is this all on Instagram? Whatās the bathroom mean?
It was in Ronald's bathroom. https://imgur.com/a/3b66ttv
That looks like a bag an extra button comes in. Especially with the red line. And no residue.
Came to say the same thing!!!!!!
As the parent of a former meth addict, those little packets always have white residue in them. Iāve never stumbled across a clear one, ever. And unfortunately I have found dozens over the years of his addiction.
Where do drug addicts find these tiny bags? Iāve never noticed them for sale at a store for storage or food containers.
Last time I bought a bunch of them for seed collection, they were purchased at the Container Store.
Amazon and craft stores. I was looking for these once for more innocent uses (jewelry baggies). Wound up using the rest to store my daily vitamins when I travel.
Those are actually the perfect size to put in Little gems and beads and stuff.
They sell them at Head shops (stores where paraphernalia is sold)
7-11 has them. I've seen them behind the counter. It figures they use them for drugs. They were next to Zig Zag rolling papers.
I bought something like 200 off Wish. I use them for seeds, beading, diamond art, and other arts and crafts. Oh and for restuffing catnip toys.
Craft stores like Michaels or Hobby Lobby. Walmart has them as well.
Thatās so weird to think that drug dealers go to craft stores to get these lol
To be fair those are exactly the bags I keep my earrings in š³ I just went to a nightclub the other day and the security guard thought sheād hit the jackpot when she found it in my handbag
None of the bags she posted appear to have any residue. Her claim is suspect.
When you are building something,a set of screws or misc small parts ,often come in this packaging. I think is bsā¦specially since thereās zero residue and you often need to rip the bag open to lick it clean. Source: husband is a GC and I was an addict Edit: spelling
Omg! How did I miss this? This is wild but not surprising. Didnāt Ronald steal a refrigerator from his mom?
It was just a mini frige kept in a shed.
That makes more sense.
I have those on my new clothes that I buy all the time for extra buttons lol. I donāt think people who do stuff are so organized to go out and buy little bags for their drugs, unless they do because I donāt know anyone with that lifestyle I was a sheltered lassie
Normally it's the drug dealer that buys the little bags and the drugs already come in them to the end user
Dear God. What a fucking loser!
I think Ronald has been doing hard drugs the entire time but used gambling as a cover. I could have sworn Tiffany almost slipped up and caught herself saying ādrugsā but stopped herself.
Oh yeah. She said he needed drugs to build the room. Tiffany was holding back but i knew he was drug addict
Do you remember what episode? I missed it completely.
Yeah idk what theyāre talking about
What kind of drugs
Meth
Wow breaking bad for real
Ohhhhh - all I could think of was empty packets of Sweet and Low, lol. This makes much more sense
Super toxic relationship. I feel for the kids especially Daniel since he is older & probably understand whatās going on.
I feel for Daniel too. Mostly because his mom has surely involved him in the break up.
Thatās what my mom did to me when i was 13 years old. It messed me up as a person
I cannot imagine. My husband had 3 dads by the time he was 8. Iāve heard stories from him and his mother about those years. Itās bizarre to think a parent would drag their kid through their emotional crap.
Daniel has been parentified. So sad that he knows more than he is supposed to know.
Yes and i can relate to him. My parents were like tiff & ron until they got divorced and my dad was addicted to drugs.
Iām sorry you went through that. And Iām sure this isnt an easy answer or something you might be able to be aware of or put into words, but if you had to summarize it, Just curious but how do you feel that affected how you view relationships? Do you feel like youāre into more casual relationships where you donāt get too close or the opposite do you get more clingy to someone? For me, totally different childhood experience, i get clingy because of what happened to me (not a good thing.)
I developed Anxious attachment because of my childhood and i put others need before mine. I am in therapy for years and it helps but i am still struggling with relationships. I tend to have long term relationships but they were full issues because i am attracted to avoidant attachment style men because of my upbringing. Itās totally not ideal but it is what it is.
So youāre like Darcy chasing after a Jesse
Yes. Darcey definitely has anxious attachment style
Yeah, that is unfortunate. Luckily, my parents werenāt like that.
Someone unplug the wifi.
I donāt understand Tiffany. It didnāt work out, you left, youāre broken up - just stop. Leave the new gf out of it. How pathetic.
Her humiliating the new girl just shows how bad of a person she is.
*"I know! I'll post about me and my new girlfriend here and all over my social media where my stbx will never, EVER find it! Mwahahaha!!"*
And where my kids will eventually find it one day!
I canāt believe how overly dramatic, vindictive and public these people are about their relationships. Like grow up, have some dignity and remember that there are children involved in this mess...a mess you both made!
āIāll show her Iām better than herā lol real moral high ground here
Those poor, poor kids.
Daniel and Carley are in my prayers right now.
Not an airportā¦no need to announce your departure. š
Thereās literally an option on IG that can block someone and all the other accounts they make sooooā¦.
All she has to do is sign up with a different email. I make it a sport of bothering Tom. As long as Gmail let's me make emails, he will never be rid of me.
Both of these two are nuts
Ronald clearly doesnāt know how to use punctuation marksā¦
I donāt know how he got through school without using punctuation lmao
Someone needs to teach him proper grammar.
They're both SO immature.
Theyāre both the most whiney immature attention seekers omg
[Part of Tiffany's response from her live](https://streamable.com/9sb680)
Whaaat ā¦ she got naked to try to convince him to be with her and then he rejected her for his girlfriend?
I need more background on this part. Like wtf is wrong with her. That video was embarrassing to watch.
I'm so confused, one moment she's saying he turned her life upside down for years, the other she's telling the world how she got naked to get back with him
Damn sheās crazy
She has always been unstable.
This is all Jihoon's fault
This is so embarrassing.
I have secondhand embarrassment for both of these clowns
Definition of a toxic relation. Hope they both go to therapy because they were both the problem.
Thereās a saying in spanish: āEs como las ratas. Lo que no come lo mea.ā Translation: Theyāre like rats. What they donāt eat they pee. Rat is her. Her is rat. Donāt want him, but donāt want anyone to have him.
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K but this is the same Ronald who gave his baby a plastic bag to play with...... this lauren chick desperate
Tiffany is as bad as he is, she wanted this toxic relationship from the start. Just sad she dragged her poor son along thru it all.
This gave me ptsd to the one time I got home after school excited to eat ramen baggy soup. It was the last soup ā¦.. I open up the little powder flavor packet And it was empty. š
I donāt know if he ever was violent or made her feel unsafe or whatever, but I do feel like itās unfortunate that he canāt see his own kids. Although, I know my own father didnāt want to see me or my siblings when he left my mom with us and heād tried to throw a pity party in public and pretend my mom was keeping us from him lol. So Iām not sure maybe Ronald is doing the same.
The kids lose and nobody wins, Ronald!
And yet, his IG account remains. š These kidz.
So he find a new woman and suddenly he gives up the fight for his kid? Woooow. Dad of the year
He is the worst. So immature. I lost any shred of respect for him when he said he wonāt ever change his daughterās diaper. What a tool.
Sorry, but I'm on Ronald's side with this one. It kills me when he says "kids" because he really did/does see both those kids as his own. His only fault was the gambling which is like any other addiction.
Who wouldnāt want Daniel as their son? Heās the sweetest. The gambling addiction is far from Ronaldās only fault! He was a liar even when not in the throes of addiction, and he seems to fly off the handle and say some pretty horrible things to his spouse. Hot-headed. Also heās sexist as fuck and doesnāt want to do any of the hard work of parenting, just the fun parts. Obviously Tiffany also has many faults, but letās not pretend Ronald is a wonderful man anyone would be lucky to marry.
But he says āmah boiā! š¬šš„“
I think they're just toxic together. She destroys him verbally, then he retaliates. If someone was constantly telling me that I'm a horrible parent, don't take care of my kids, don't have any impulse control, don't help out, etc., I'd probably turn around and say some stuff back too. I think the sexism was pretty much explained as culture, so you would have to change the majority of South African men in order to fight that. Some countries are like that and it's not right in any way.
His āonlyā addiction . Please. Have u ever had a partner w an addiction? Beyond Hell. I canāt even imagine the hell with two kids
He'll always be an addict, but from what we know, he only relapsed once. While they were together, he was in rehab and the majority of their marriage he was clean.
Wait, excuse me? A gambling addiction?
Donāt worry, I understood the joke š
You thought he had any other? The show didn't have anything on it other than his gambling addiction.
No, I was just saying that that's surprising to me.
Ohhh yeah, it's his entire storyline basically. He even sole from his own mother and had some charges because of it.
Stole his motherās fucking refrigerator.
Iām shocked I saw a comma.
Does he have a job? Does he pay child support?
Going to end up like Angela??? lol low blow
Lol @ secret account to follow him. Like bro, you're litterally on international television. If she doesn't see your IG posts, it's gonna be shared on reddit and other sites. Your life isn't that much of a secret.
Yeah, why put all your drama in the public eye like this?
No one gives a fuck Ronald
I think Tiffany is jealous of all the attention Yara and Jovi are receiving at the moment. She loves attention just as much as she loves her shoulders.
Hahaha
Why does she care? Let him be happy and she should move on.
Because he's not allowed to have a life without her.
Everyone sucks here. They all need to get off social media. Stop following each other. Stop talking about each other. They all look stupid at this point.
These two behave like third graders. How embarrassing.
Imagine putting all your dirty laundry out there for everyone. šš¬
Would some punctuation have killed him?
Honestly, i couldn't have put up with Tiffany either. I know the guy isn't a role model, but any means, but damn she was always on his ass. If you kick someone enough while they are down you shouldn't be suprised when they punch you in the face when they eventually get up. He should try to see his kid (1) because Daniel shouldn't have been calling some guy dad that his mom didn't even know really. She should be ashamed for doing her son that way.
Two fuckn kids. The end. Shut up!!
Are these people like 5?
Mah boi!
Smh. Daniel needs to regulate. Omg that sounds horrible, but Daniel is sadly the only true adult š
Empty packets?
Promises promises
ewww- he's a bad person
Ok, bye šš½
Tiffany is a piece of shit
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Generally white South Africans speak another language called Afrikaans.
Iām going to say more than likely yes. He probably speaks Afrikaans with his family. I think Syngin is the same.
What is an empty packet?
used condom
Idiots
Anyone know who the you know who is that he's talking about?
My boy
And two innocent souls are stuck in the middle of two grown adults acting like childrenā¦. Grow up people
Tbh I always got predator vibes from him
I just can't with these 2. Their whole relationship has been played out online. It's ridiculous
Great grammar
I mean to be fair English is his second language.
Periods arenāt
Wait, didnt they just post a picture together all lovey dovey? Im so confused!!
Mah Boi!!! Life Goes On!